The working family names Letitia Buchanan, Jane, John P., Samuel, Elizabeth, David, and Sarah Guthrie. John is described as a blacksmith and later farmer. The supplied profile places the family in Armstrong County by 1830, so the later biographical statement that he first moved there in 1857 needs reconciliation.

AGAF appendix note 423, p. 719, abstracts his will in Armstrong Will Book 2, p. 398: signed 14 March 1866 and proved 29 March 1866. The earlier date is the will date, not the probate date. The abstract identifies Barton Guthrie as a son of Letitia Buchanan Crownover; he must not be added automatically as John’s biological son.

The supplied profile names Mary “Polly,” Elizabeth “Betsey,” Jane Phoebe, William, James Harrison, and Samuel Smith Guthrie. Its 15 December 1813 marriage date comes from a researcher’s information rather than an inspected marriage entry. Candidate census households remain to be correlated.

James’s family provides the reported descent route for Y-DNA kit 199390. His approximate birth year is not enough to identify him as the child born after the 1794 river attack described in Harbison’s narrative.

The working family lists Sarah, Nancy, William A., Mary, John Guthrie, Margaret “Eliza,” Martha, Margaret Eleanor “Ellen,” and Oliver McClain Christie. The two entries beginning Margaret are retained as separate profiles pending fuller record comparison.

Margaret’s profile gives 1871, while the reviewed historical accounts preserve a 1871/1872 discrepancy. Its Ohio locality, rendered “Richard,” has not been securely identified and is not silently changed to Richland.

Jenny’s qualified date remains after 1805. The guardian index supports an appointment in 1805, not death that year. No husband is assigned. Ann’s research found records for a Jane Morrow married to a man of the formerly assigned husband’s name, but no marriage record for Jenny. The source of that former assignment has not been traced to AGAF or another publication. A Maclean appearing as guardian for other Guthrie children does not establish a marriage to Jenny.

The proposed later Samuel was a wheelwright associated with Versailles and the Pittsburgh area. His working household with Mary includes Sarah, John P., Samuel Thomas, and Elizabeth Guthrie. Those adult-family details do not yet prove that he was the minor indexed in 1805.

A separate 1820 guardianship reference involving Paul Morrow, David Maclean, and Sibbie Guthrie may concern another family. It must not be joined to the 1805 entry as an established sequence of appointments.

Posted scans of the Westmoreland general index were inspected. Page 95/1 names Jenny and James with James Guthrie as guardian, and John with Samuel Paul. Page 155/1 includes Samuel with Jas Guthrie.

The index does not supply these children’s ages or fathers. The letters J and D are retained as filing-column readings, not expanded into months. Four named indexed subjects do not establish all five minors or the asserted eight-child lifetime family.

The later account of John’s petition describes him as above fourteen and as a son of deceased Captain John Guthrie of Washington Township. It reports his choice of Samuel Paul. Its date is the third Monday of December 1805—16 December by calendar calculation. The original order has not been inspected.

The separate 1820 reference, 1 OC 219, names Paul Morrow and David Maclean and is shared by an entry for Sibbie. It requires its own family identification. It is not evidence that Captain Jack survived until 1820.

The supplied Bio(1).pdf asserts eight children while describing John and four younger minors. Those statements can be compatible, but the biography supplies neither a complete original petition nor the missing names.

Harbison’s 1794 river-attack account refers to a Captain Guthrey’s wife giving birth to her ninth child. The identity of that couple has not been securely established. The passage does not prove nine Guthrie children for Jack and Mary, nor does James’s approximate 1794 birth identify him as that infant.

Harbison’s separate 1792 passages name Captain Guthry without a forename. Jack and Captain William are candidates, with neither established. The described pursuit followed Harbison’s return; it was not her rescue.

American Guthrie and Allied Families, p. 409 and appendix pp. 716–719, preserves more than the short printed family entry. Note 420 includes an Orr conversation of 25 April 1849 and letters of 31 March 1851 and 9 March 1853.

The 1851 letter reports the son’s account of a Kentucky land-search and death after a short illness. Its tentative 1810/1815 timing conflicts with the 1805 court chronology. Retain the reported Kentucky circumstances without presenting that late recollection as an exact contemporary death record.

AGAF’s appendix also warns against confusing the Westmoreland John with the Carlisle John, son of Robert. Commissions, service claims, and later militia references must follow the identified man. The underlying Draper manuscripts and original estate packet remain retrieval priorities.

The inspected 14 December 1791 deed, Westmoreland Book 1, pp. 48–49, conveys 142 acres and 112 perches from John Guthrie Sr. and Mary directly to Michael Ringer. Recorded 15 December, it does not document the previously repeated father-to-Jack-to-Ringer chain.

The family quitclaim at Book 9, p. 262 was executed 10 April 1797. Samuel Porter’s witness proof and recording occurred 15 April 1811. Those later acts do not prove that every grantor was still living. Relationship labels added by later writers must be distinguished from the deed’s own language.

The proposed 1790 and 1800 census households are not securely assigned. The 1800 age range reported for the head does not fit Jack’s estimated birth exactly, and unnamed household members cannot be converted into additional children or identified Lochry daughters without corroboration.