Guthrie Family Group 4 – Branch A
THOMAS GUTHREY c1717VA-1800VA and SARAH OAKES
of King William & Cumberland Counties, Virginia

CONTENTS:
Origin Theories
The Family of Thomas Guthrey & Sarah Oakes
Reading and Resources
The Guthrie DNA Project

ORIGIN THEORIES for GFG4

Family Trees with Colonial Virginia roots are often tangled with errors due the assumption of relatedness and a lack of contradictory evidence. Consequently, genetically unrelated Guthrie families have been merged into one super-tree. Untangling those lines can be a challenge without a rock-solid paper trail, especially when some of the Guthrie lineages in the same region remain without Y-DNA representation.

Thomas Guthrey’s descendant line has been proven to be genetically unrelated to Guthrie Family Group 1, which includes the Guthrie Family in Middlesex County, Virginia and others lineages matching its genetic profile. The Thomas Guthrey family does not currently match any of the other established groups and so far Thomas is the earliest common ancestor for Guthrie Family Group 4.. He is believed to belong to the Guthrie family of King and Queen County, Virginia, but whether that is a biological relationship or one created through a non-paternal event or adoption remains undetermined.

Due to the close proximity to Middlesex County, Virginia, confusion about the identity of multiple men named John Guthrie, and some definite interaction with the local parish, many researchers conclude that the K&Q Guthrie family is the same extended family as the one based in Middlesex, VA.

There are three key considerations:
1. John Guthrie (The Immigrant) of K&Q was reportedly of English origin rather than Scottish..
2. There is no documentation proving any direct familial connection.
3. The Y-DNA of Thomas Guthrey’s line does not match the Middlesex group (GFG1A).

John Guthrie was reportedly born about 1620 in England. One tradition says that he received a land grant from King Charles. He owned land in Isle of Wight County, and later Gloucester County, which became King & Queen County, Virginia. Per the published family history, his sons are believed to be John Guthrie, Edward Guthrie, James Guthrie, and Daniel Guthrie, all of King & Queen County.

Edward Guthrie is listed as a probable father to Thomas Guthrey, William Guthrie, and Lawrence (or Henry) Guthrie of Cumberland County, Virginia. Unfortunately, the proof of such connections may never be known due to 3 separate courthouse fires in 1828, 1833, and 1863. Further difficulty comes into play because the Y-DNA of William Guthrie’s descendants is yet another distinct genetic profile, collectively Guthrie Family Group 5. There are no traceable male descendants of Lawrence (or Henry) for the DNA project.

All GFG4 YDNA participants in Branch A can be traced with reasonable certainty directly back to Thomas Guthrey. Branch B descendants are very likely to descend from one of his grandsons.

THE FAMILY of THOMAS GUTHREY & SARAH OAKES

THOMAS GUTHREY
Parents: (Biological Paternal Line Does Not Match Any Other Guthrie Family Group)
Born: c1717
Location: Virginia, possibly St John Parish, King William, Virginia
Marriage: Once or Twice, (See Notes)
Occupation: Planter
Death: 22 September 1800
Location: Cumberland County, Virginia, USA
Burial: Unknown

SARAH OAKES
Born: Unknown
Location: Unknown, possibly Virginia
Guthrey Children: 8
Death: 1766-1784
Location: Unknown, presumably in Cumberland County, Virginia
Burial: Unknown

NOTES:

Thomas Guthrey is believed to be a son of Edward Guthrey of King & Queen County, Virginia. Unfortunately, there are no documents to prove it or to conclusively identify the lineages of his other siblings for comparative DNA testing.

Regarding “Sarah Oakes: the year 1718 is an estimated date of birth for a woman who could represent more than one individual. According to various traditions published and found across the intranet, Thomas Guthrey may have been married twice. . . or not.

Find a Grave indicates that Sarah Oakes was the daughter of John Oakes III and wife Rachel Rawlings listing a DOB of 1718 in St John’s Parish, King William, VA. Sources? Thomas’ son Alexander King Guthrey mentioned his grandmother was named Elizabeth Oakes, which would seemingly rule out the relationship listed at Find-a-Grave. So where does she come in?

Trees have also listed an (Unidentified) King and Sarah Oakes as Thomas’ two spouses, but there is no evidence of a King marriage despite the use of King as a middle name for Alexander. Sarah’s identity remains a bit of a mystery, but she will be referred to here as the mother of all of Thomas Guthrey’s children pending other evidence.

The last mention of Sarah Guthrey, wife of Thomas, is found in 1766 when she makes an appearance in court to declare her relinquishment of dower rights to land that her husband has sold. She is not mentioned in Thomas Guthrey’s will. That will was recorded 6 October 1790 and proven 22 September 1800 in Cumberland County, Virginia.

GUTHREY CHILDREN:
Y-DNA Project Participants: YES
Autosomal DNA Participants: YES

CHILD 1: SUSANNAH GUTHREY
1736VA-1824KY
Spouse: Robert Moore

Susannah Guthrey was born about 1736 in King William County, VA. Online trees give her the middle name of King, but no original source data has been found showing her with that name. She married Robert Moore. There are 2 unsourced DOM. The first is 1754, which seems to be an estimate based on the eldest child’s 1756 birth. The other is 8 Jan 1759, both of them being in Cumberland County, VA.

Upon her father’s death in 1800, Susannah received her father’s large bible and the loan of two slaves named Violet and Phyllis until the time of her death. The slaves and their increase were to then pass on to Susannah’s children. Sometime after that date Robert & Susannah moved to Green County, Kentucky. Robert died there in 1808. Susannah (Guthrey) Moore died there on 3 Jun 1824.

Moore Children: 8
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Female Guthrey
Autosomal DNA Participants: No

1.) Elizabeth Moore 1756VA-1817 m. Richard vs William Walker +children
2.) William Moore 1757VA-1843MO m. Drusilla Weatherford
3.) Thomas Guthrey Moore 1760-1843
4.) Lucy Moore 1762VA-???? m. Robert Clark
5.) Nancy Sarah Moore 1762VA-1852 m. Andrew Chaudoin
6.) Richard Moore 1770VA-1825 m. Margaret MNU
7.) John G Moore 1778VA-1832MO m. Nancy Carlile
8.) Travis Samuel Moore 1780VA-1852MO m. Sally Mitchell

ALEXANDER KING GUTHREY
1738VA-1817VA
Spouse: Sarah Coleman

Alexander King Guthrey was born about 1738 in St David’s Parish, King William, VA. He purchased 298 acres in St Thomas Parish on 19 Feb 1759, likely about the time of his marriage to Sarah, whose maiden name is possibly Coleman. About 1765 Alexander and Sarah conveyed land in King William County to Henry Oaks for 5 shillings, and afterward appear to have moved to Cumberland County, Virginia taking Alexander’s grandmother, Elizabeth Oaks, with them. Sometime after the move, Alexander’s wife Sarah died. He remarried in 1776 to widow Mary Pearce nee Anderson. Alexander died in Littleton Parish, Cumberland, VA in 1817. His widow Mary lived until 7 Nov 1836. They are buried at the James Anderson Family Cemetery in Farmville, Cumberland, VA.

Guthrey Children: 6
Y-DNA Project Participants: YES
Autosomal DNA Participants: YES

1.) Benjamin Guthrie 1764VA-d.1845-50KY m. Frances (MNU) + children
2.) Alexander Iverson Guthrie 1767-1835 m. Margaret/Martitia Wilhoit + children
3.) Sarah ‘Sally’ Guthrie 176901817 m. Jesse Parker +children
4.) Susannah Guthrie (not mentioned in WOOV)
5.) Elizabeth Guthrie m. Jesse Davis +children
6.) Hannah Guthrie m. Thomas Maddox

TRAVIS GUTHREY
1742VA-1818VA
Spouse: Mary Ann Hill

Travis Guthrey was born about 1742 in King William County, VA. He married Mary Ann Hill. The date listed for this couple’s marriage is 1759, but the eldest child’s DOB is not until about 1771, so there is something wrong about those dates. Documentation names him as Travis, but he is listed in Waltons of Old Virginia simply as Francis Guthrey. You’ll find him in trees with the merged name Travis Francis Guthrey.

Travis moved his family to Halifax County, Virginia sometime before 1773 when he was mentioned as an adjoining landowner in a property record dated 15 April 1773. There are a number of property purchases and sales in Halifax County, VA until Travis’ death in 1818.

Guthrey Children: 11
Y-DNA Project Participants: YES
Autosomal DNA Participants: YES

1.) Frances Guthrey b. 1765-75VA – d.???? m. Thomas Milner
2.) Elizabeth Guthrey b. 1770-80VA – d.1855TN m. Barnett Brackett Owen
3.) Polly Guthrey b.1770-80VA – d. bef.1830 m. Absalom Lane +children
4.) William T. Guthrey b.1771VA – d.abt. 1819Va m. Nancy S Davis +children
5.) John Guthrey b. 1771 – d. 1791 – died at 20 years of age from measles
6.) Samuel Guthrey b. 1773VA – d. 1791 – died at 18 years of age
7.) Sally Guthrey b. 1776-86 VA – d. 18?? m. Frederick Clay
8.) Thomas Guthrey b. 1777 VA – d. abt. 1837VA m. Mary ‘Polly’ Baskerville +children
9.) James Guthrey b. abt.1783VA – 1850VA m. Mary ‘Polly’ Hubbard +children
10.) Dennett Hill Guthrey b. 1785VA – d. 1861 VA m. Sarah ‘Sally’ Smallman Hart + children
11.) Elijah Guthrey b. abt. 1791VA – d. 1850-60 m. Jartney Vaughan

HENRY GUTHREY
1745VA-1808VA
Spouse: Patsy (MNU)

Henry Guthrey was born about 1745 in King William County, Virginia. He purchased land in Cumberland County, Virginia in 1779, so was there by that date. Like his father and brothers, Henry was a slave owner as noted in Virginia Census records. His wife was named Patsy (MNU). Henry died in 1808. There are estate and Chancery Court records in the Cumberland, VA files through 1815.

This man is often misidentified as Henry Guthrie who married Nancy Shackleford. That line has been genetically matched to GFG5, and is not a descendant lineage of Thomas Guthrey and Sarah Oakes.

Guthrey Children: 11
Y-DNA Project Participants: YES
Autosomal DNA Participants: YES

1.) Elizabeth Guthrey b.1766-82VA – d. bef.1831VA m. Henry Cox +children
2.) Sarah ‘Sallie’ Guthrey b. 1776-94VA – d.p.1820VA m. Charles Lewis +children
3.) Bernard Guthrey b. 1776-88VA – d.1822AL m. Rebecca Bird +children
4.) Ann Guthrey b. bef. 1788VA – d. p1850TN m. John Wheeler +children
5.) Walker Guthrey b. abt. 1790VA – d. p1850TN m1. Unk Spouse +children, m2. Naomi Sharp +children
6.) Martha Guthrey b. 1791-1809VA – d. p1811 – No further details.
7.) David Guthrey b. 1791-1809VA 0 d. bef.1833 – No further details
8.) Mary ‘Polly’ Guthrey b. 1791-1800VA – d. aft. 1830 m. FNU Chennault +children
9.) Thomas Guthrey 1796VA – 1890TN m. Catherine Cox +children
10.) Nancy Guthrey b. abt. 1800VA – d. p1870VA m. Gulielmus Coleman Jr +children
11.) Henry Sidney Guthrey 1807VA – 1896VA m1. Marietta Womack, m2. Mary Agnes Womack +children

ELIZABETH GUTHREY
1746VA-1823VA
Spouse: David Morris

Elizabeth Guthrey’s DOB is listed as 10 June 1746. This date is sourced from the Hunter-Morris Family Bible (see Gallery) Her listed birth location in Louisa County, Virginia seems up for questioning. Her parents, to my knowledge, never lived there. She married David Morris about 1768, apparently an estimated date based on the DOB of their eldest child. Elizabeth died in Louisa County, Virginia on 28 Jun 1823, and David Morris died there 31 Dec 1831. All indications on census records and David’s will suggest that his wife Elizabeth did indeed die before he did.

Morris Children: 7
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Female Guthrey
Autosomal DNA Participants: YES

1.) Samuel Morris 1768VA – aft1860KY m. Martha M Biggers +children
2.) Guthrie Gentry Morris 1770VA – 1842KY m. Dorothy ‘Dolly’ Holland +children
3.) Joshua Morris 1773VA – 1825 VA (WV) m. Nancy Ann Lea _children
4.) Sally Morris 1775VA – 1827MA m. Gideon Floyd
5.) Mary ‘Polly’ Morris aft. 1776VA – 1866VA m. William Hunter +children
6.) George Morris 1781VA – 1819VA
7.) Caroline Matilda Morris 1790VA – 1844MO

WILLIAM GUTHREY
1751VA-1826VA
Spouse: Rebecca Noel

William Guthrey was born on 16 August 1751 at Flint Hill, King William, VA. He was married to Rebecca Noel on 25 November 1778 in Buckingham, VA. He was a slave owner, and also owned property in Cumberland County, VA where he lived until his death in 1826. Rebecca survived him. She died in 1836. Probate data includes an estate inventory and Chancery Court records.

Guthrey Children: 4
Y-DNA Project Participants: YES
Autosomal DNA Participants: YES

1.) John Guthrey b. 1779VA – d. 1856VA m1. Nancy Jane Palmore +children, m2. Mary ‘Polly’ Ayres +child, m3. Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ Ayres +children
2.) William ‘Buck’ Guthrie b.1781VA – d.1848VA m. Elizabeth Turner Coleman +children
3.) Nancy Ann Guthrie b.1783VA – d.1822-26VA m1. James White +child, m2. Gulielmus Coleman Jr +children
4.) Sarah Noel Guthrie b.1786VA – d.1836VA m. James Apperson

SARAH ‘SALLY’ GUTHREY
1752VA-1825KY

Sally Guthrey was born 10 May 1752 in Virginia. She married Benjamin Coleman on 18 Feb 1771. He would become a minister. They were living in Fayette County, KY in 1790, Harrison, KY in 1800, Henry, KY in 1810, Oldham KY in 1830. Sally died at Corn Creek, Trimble, KY on 27 Jun 1825 and is buried at the Corn Creek Baptist Church Cemetery at Milton. Her husband Rev Benjamin Coleman died on 13 Sep 1834 in Trimble, KY.

Coleman Children: 8
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Female Guthrey
Autosomal DNA Participants: No

1.) Daniel Coleman 1722VA – 1833KY m. Elizabeth Connell +children
2.) Sarah ‘Sally’ Coleman 1773VA – 1836VA m. Peter Gabhart/Gabbert +children
3.) Elizabeth Coleman 1775VA-1836KY m. John Reid/Reed +children
4.) Patience Coleman 1784Va-1864KY m. John Sandidge Jr +children
5.) Virgil D Coleman 1786VA – 1857IN m1. Lydia Limmon +children, m2. Mary Cummins +children
6.) Mary ‘Polly’ Coleman 1788VA-1873KY m. Burdette Mayfield + children
7.) Wyatt Coleman 1789VA-1854KY m1. Cynthia Connell +child, m. 2 Catharine Nicholson +children
8.) Lucy Coleman 1793VA-1874IN m. Zachariah McGannon +children

JOHN GUTHREY
1759VA-1833VA

John Guthrey was born in Virginia about 1759. His marriage to Elizabeth ‘Betty’ Ann Allen occurred on 25 May 1785 in Cumberland County, Virginia. William Guthrie provided surety on the marriage bond. They moved to Halifax County, Virginia. His DOD is given as either 1833 or 1836. Betty’s date and place of death are unknown.

Guthrey Children: 12
Y-DNA Project Participants: Yes (See GFG4B)
Family Finder Participants: Yes

1.) Sally King Guthrey 1785VA – 1824KY m. Richard Crews +children
2.) William Guthrey b. abt 1788VA – d. ????VA (possibly m. Sarah Street
3.) Allen Guthrey b. abt. 1788VA – d. aft. 1850 m. Mary M Bostick +children
4.) John Guthrey 1791VA – 1860VA m. Edness ‘Edna’ Adams +children
5.) Martha ‘Patsy’ Guthrey abt. 1791 VA – 18?? m. Leonard Keeling +children
6.) Elizabeth Guthrey 1793VA – 1886VA m1. Pleasant William Hubbard, m2. James L McCraw
7.) Susan Guthrey 1799VA-1871VA – unmarried
8.) Seny Guthrey 1800VA – p1850VA m. John Tucker +children
9.) Rebecca Guthrey 1800VA – 1858TN m. Archibald H Rowlett +children
10.) Frances ‘Fanny’ W Guthrey 1807VA – 1884TN m. Archibald H Rowlett
11.) Richard A Guthrey / Guthrie b. 1804-5VA – d. 1859VA m. Martha ‘Patsy’ Yeates +children
12.) Nancy Guthrey b. Abt. 1807Va – d. 18? m. Thomas Walton

READING AND RESOURCES

Refer to Guthrie Genealogy’s Reading and Resources: Cumberland County, VA for links to other Guthrie/ Guthrey entries in other deed and court order books.

BOOK: Guthrie, Laurence R. (1933) ‘American Guthrie and Allied Families: ineal representations of the colonial Guthries of Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Maryland, Delaware, Virginia, North and South Carolina, some post-revolutionary emigrants and of some allied families. Digital Repository: Open Library; Digital Repository: Ancestry.com.
p.36 “It is said there were three brothers who removed from the eastern part of Virginia to Cumberland County, their names being Lawrence, Thomas, and William.”

p.37 Lawrence Guthrey is supposed to have been the husband of Sarah, whose maiden named was Coleman. (See the Colemans, Allied Families). He is not found in the County records. The will of “Sarah Guttery of the County of Cumberland inthe Province of Virginia” mentions…” son Bernard Guttrey, son William Coleman Guttrey, daughter Pattey Guttrey, grandson Henry Guttry (son of Bernard), granddaughter Lucy Elliott (daughter of Philadelphia) and her sister Elizabeth Eliot, daughter Orania Coleman, daughter Susanna Lee.

Thomas Guthrey is next up in ARAG. The author describes him as Thomas Guttery, “of King William County in Saint John Parish” indicating that he must have moved from King William to Cumberland with several children. He also indicates that Thomas was first married to Patsy Baskerville. This, however, is an error. The William and Mary Quarterly includes an issue with King William County Marriage Records (See further below) naming Mary or Polly Baskerville’s marriage to Thomas Guthrey in 1793. Other sources list the marriage occurring in Cumberland County, In any case, the marriage is likely that of a grandson not Thomas himself.

p.38 The will of Thomas Guthrey, of the Parish of Littleton, in the County of Cumberland.
He mentions son Alexander Guthrey, daughter Susannah Moore, daughter Elizabeth Morris, son Francis (Travis) Guthrey, son Henry Guthrey, son William Guthrey, son John Guthrey, daughterSarah Coleman, grandaughter Sarah Guthrey, daughter of so William, grandson John Guthrey, son of William.

DOCUMENTS: Cumberland County Deed Books
Book 1 – Page 292 – IMG185 – FHL Film #007893764
Cumberland County, Virginia on 20 February 1750
Thos. Harvey and Elizabeth his wife of Cumberland Co, in Southam Parish, planter, for 5shillings, lease unto Thomas Guttery, of King Wm Co, in St John parish, planter, a tract in Cumberland Co Southam parish, containing 400 acres. Deeds: Liber 1 Folio 292.
NOTE: The 5 shilling deal may have been a way to hold the property until he could officially purchase it, which he did 3 days later.

Book 1 – Page 298 – IMG184 – FHL Film # 007893764
Cumberland County, Virginia on 23 February 1750
For 100 pounds current money of Virginia, Thomas Guttery, purchased the 400 acres on Pidy branch which he had leased on the 20 Feb 1750. Deeds, Liber 1, folio 289.

Book 2 – Index – IMG 314 – Brown to Guttery – FHL Film # 007893764
Book 2 – Page 509 – IMG 574 – Brown to Guttery (Pages 509-512)
Indenture made 28 July 1759 between James Brown of Southam Parish, Cumberland County, and Thomas Guthy of same. In consideration of eight pounds 12 shillings current money of Virginia, one tract of land containing 86 acres in Southam Parish on both sides of little Pidy-Rock Creek, a branch of Willis’ River adjoining his own land.

Book 3 – IMG 8 Index – Guttery to Trent p235 – FHL Film #007893765
Book 3 – IMG12 Deed – Guttery to Trent
Indenture made 10 Aug 1761 between Thomas Guttery and Alexander Trent in Cumberland County Southam Parish for __ 20 pounds current money of Virginia

Book 4 – IMG 312 Index – Guttery to Southall p.84– FHL Film #007893765
Book 4 – IMG 356 Deed – Guttery to Southall p.84
Indenture made 28 July 1766 between Thomas Guttery of Cumberland County and James Southall of James City County for 225 pounds current money of Virginia, 2 tracts or parcels of land in Cumberland on the north fork of Pidy Rock Creek of Willises river containing 386 acres in all, and includes the dwelling plantation where Thomas Guttery now lives.

BOOK 4 IMG 312 Index – Kent to Guttery p.86 – FHL Film # 007893765
Book 4 – Page 86 – Kent to Guttrey
Indenture made 21 July 1766 between Robert Kent & Mary his wife of Cumberland County and Thos. Guttrey of Cumberland County for 100 pounds current money of Virginia a tract of land in Cumberland on both side of Pidy Rock of Willows river containing 260 acres. Witnessed by Alexander Guttrey, Warham Easley, Joseph Starkey, and Absalom Hammonds.

Book 6 -IMG 312 Index – Guttery to Guttery p.217 – FHL Film # 007893766
Book 6 – Page 217 – IMG 423 – Guttrey to Guttrey
Indenture 7 May 1784 between Thomas Guttrey of Cumberland and William Guttrey of same, William Guttrey being his son. For the consideration of 5 shillings current money paid, after the natural life of Thomas Guttrey, he grants a tract of land lying on the South Side of Pidey Rock Creek whereon he now lives in Cumberland County containing 260 acres. Witnessed by George Baskerville, John Guttrey, John Hill, and Robt. Anderson.

BOOK: Kerns, Wilmer L. (1932) Waltons of Old Virginia : and sketches of families in Central Virginia : Booker, Christian, Coleman, Davis, Fields, Guthrie, Harris, Harrison, Harvey, Hunter, Jones, Shepherd, Stratton, Vawter, Walker, Williamson and Word. (appears to be more recently edited)
Chapter 17: The Guthrey or Guthrie Family of Cumberland and Buckingham Counties, Virginia.

BOOK: Hopkins, Garland Evans ‘Cumberland County tax Petitions Since 1776 with Names of Residence of the County Prior to 1789′
p.3 Nov. 16, 1789 – A petition complaining of heavy taxation was signed by 150 citizens of Cumberland County, including Bernard Guthrey.
p.13 No. 440. Nov. 10, 1779: Theodorick Carter, Alexander Guthrey, William Henrick, and David Fendly petition for a larger fee than that received for guarding a prisoner. Rejected.
p.18-19 No. 7,001, Dec. 9, 1817: Samuel Shepherd and William guthrey, tobacco inspectors, petition for increase in salaries.
p.30 Names of Residents of Cumberland County Prior to the Establishment of the Republic in 1789
Guthrey (Guttery) Alexander
Guthrey. Bernard
Guthrey, Henry
Guthrey, John
Guthrey, Kenney (?)
Guthrey < ? >, Thomas
Guthrey, William
Guthrey, William C.

DOCUMENTS: Court Order Books, 1749 – 1904
Order Book 1749 – 1762 – FHL Film # 007893768
1749 – 1751: Letter G Surnames – IMG 11-12 – No Applicable Entries
1752 – 1758: Letter G Surnames – IMG 195
Guttery vs Mills & c – Page 191 – IMG 299 – May Court 1754 – Thomas Guttery and Sarah his wife, plaintiffs, against William Mills and Mary his wife and Judith Stanton, defendants. Suit dismissed. The parties having agreed.
1758 – 1762: Letter G Surnames – IMG 500
Guttery vs Jones Page 327 – IMG 671 – May Court 1762 – Thomas Guttrey against Samuel Jones. – Tresspass assault and Battery. Dismissed for failing to prosecute.
Guttery vs Jones – Page 480 – IMG 748 – May Court 1762 – Thomas Guttery against Samuel Jones. In Debt. Special imparlance.
Guttery to Trent – Page 424 – IMG 720 – November Court 1761 – An indenture of feoffment between Thomas Guttery and Alexander Trent.

Order Book 1762 – 1767 – FHL Film # 007837429
1762 – 1764: Letter G Surnames – IMG 9
Guttery vs. Jones – Pages 18, 100, 156, 214
Page 18 – IMG 24 – Thomas Guttery against Samuel Jones re: Debt – July Court 1762
Page 100 – IMG 65 – Thomas Guttery against Samuel Jones re: Debt. Continuation – October Court 1762
Page 156 – IMG 93 – Thomas Guttery against Samuel Jones re: Debt. Continuation – March Court 1763
Page 214 – IMG 123 – Thomas Guttery against Samuel Jones re Debt. Dismissed at cost of Deft. – May Court 1763
1764 – 1767: Letter G Surnames – IMG 299
Guttery ~ Thomas – Page 478 – IMG 546 – 25 May 1767 – Thomas Guttrey vs Jesse Thomas. On a petition. Petition is disqualified for failing to prosecute.
Guttery ~ Southall – Page 491 – IMG 552 – 26 May 1767 – On the motion of Thomas Guttrey a witness for James Southall at the suit of Joseph Hill. Ordered that James pay him 100 pounds of tobacco for 4 days attendance.
Guttery to Southall ~ Page 264 – IMG 439 – 28 July 1766 – An indenture between Thomas Guttery to James Southall ordered to be recorded. Sarah, wife of said Thomas relinquished dower rights to the land.

Order Book 1767 – 1774 – FHL Film # 007893769
1767 – 1770: Letter G Surnames – IMG 10
No Thomas Guthrey entries.
1770 – 1772: Letter G Surnames – IMG 292
No Thomas Guthrey entries
1772 – 1774: Letter G Surnames – IMG 592
No Thomas Guthrey entries

Order Book 1774 – 1786 – FHL Film # 007893770
1774 – 1778: Letter G Surnames – IMG 9
No Thomas Guthrey entries
1779 – 1784: Letter G Surnames – IMG 292
No Thomas Guthrey entries
1784 – 1786: Letter G Surnames IMG 591
Guthery to Guthery – Page 127 – IMG 662 – 23 Aug 1784 – Indenture between Thomas Guttrey of one part and William Guttrey of other part and receipt endorsed proved by George Baskerville, John Guttrey, and John Hill three of the witnesses, and recorded.

Order Book 1786 – 1792 – FHL Film # 008358483
1786 – 1788: Letter G Surnames – IMG 11
No Thomas Guthrey entries.
1788 – 1792: Letter G Surnames – IMG 314
No Thomas Guthrey entries.

Order Book 1792 – 1801 – FHL Film # 008358484
1792 – 1797: Letter G Surnames – IMG 12
No Thomas Guthrey entries.
1797 – 1801: Letter G Surnames – IMG 386 and IMG 387
Guthrey, Thomas – probate his will grants – Page 398 – IMG 594 – 22 September 1800 – The last Will and Testament of Thomas Guttery deceased is exhibited in Court by Samuel Anderson one of the Executors therein named and proved by William Daniel Junr, a witness thereto, and as to the personal estate ordered to be recorded, and on the motion of the same Samuel who made oath according to law certificate is granted him for obtaining a probate thereof in due form he having entered into bond with security according to law.
Guthrey, Thomas – appraisers appointed – Page 398 – IMG 594 – 22 September 1800 – Ordered that Bernard Sims, Charles Palmore, William Palmore, and Leonard Bosher, or any three of them being first sworn do appraise in current money the slaves if any and other personal estate of Thomas Guttery dec’d and make return thereof to Court.
Guthrey, Thomas – inventory returned – Page 401 – IMG 596 – 27 October 1800 – An Inventory and appraisement of the Estate of Thomas Guttery decd’d is returned and ordered to be recorded.
Guthrey, Thomas ~ Cayce – Page 442 – IMG 616 – 23 February 1801 – Alexander Guttery against Fleming Cayce. Debt.
Guthrey, Thomas ~ Cayce – Page 498 – IMG 644 – 30 April 1801 – Alexander Guttery plaintiff against Fleming Cayce and Sherwood Fowler defendants. In Debt.

Order Book 1801 – 1807 – FHL Film # 008358485
1801 – 1803: Letter G Surnames IMG 12 and 13
Guthrey, Thos. order to executors – Page 259 – IMG 151 – August Court 1802 – Ordered executors of Thomas Guthrey, dec’d, estate to settle the account of Samuel Anderson.

DOCUMENTS: Probate Records
Will Book 3 (1792-1810) – Index IMG 7 – FHL 007675921
Guthrey, (Thos.), Will, p.153 – IMG 86
Guthrey, (Thos.), Inventory, p.156 – IMG 88
Guthrey, Henry, Inventory, p.427 – IMG 224

THE GUTHRIE DNA PROJECT

Guthrie Family Group: GFG4
Group Designation: The Guthries of King William & Cumberland, Virginia

Haplogroup: I-M253
Confirmed Haplogroup: I-Y3153

Note: GFG4 frequently uses the GUTHREY spelling variant. It is sometimes found in recent generations.

YDNA Matches:  8

Kit 106344
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > William Guthrey/Rebecca Noel > John Guthrey/Nancy Jane Palmore > Daniel Travis Guthrey/Harriet Maria Brown (GGP) +more

Kit 146235
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > Travis Francis Guthrey/Mary Anne Hill > James Guthrey/Mary Hubbard > David Hill Guthrie/Mary Catherine Brown > Richard Edward Guthrie/Ella Eta Price (GGP) +more

Kit 177763
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > William Guthrie/Rebecca Noel > John Guthrie/Elizabeth Ayres > Joseph Lee Guthrie/Martha Shoemaker (GGP) +more

Kit 180399
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > No Further Lineage Provided

Kit 232860
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > William Guthrey/Rebecca Noel > Thomas Guthrey*/Mary Baskerville > Thomas Guthrey*/Catherine Cox > Charles Henry Guthrey*/Elizabeth Chrisman > John Henry Guthrie*/Amanda Spradling (GGP) // *Prospective Lineage

Kit 243099
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > Alexander King Guthrey/Sarah MNU > Benjamin Guthrie/Frances MNU > Benjamin Guthrie/Catherine Ramsey > William Preston Guthrie/Susan Catherine Hodges (GGP) +more

Kit MK73302
(Presumed Descendant of Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes) > William Guthrey/Mary Musgrove > Robert Musgrove Guthrie/Mary Jane Hardin > William Benjamin Guthrie/Elizabeth Frances Lee > William Robert Guthrie/Lillian Stevens Hawk (GGP) +more

Kit N91979
(Presumed Descendant of Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes) > Henry Sidney Guthrie/Marietta Womack > James Henry Guthrie/Mandana Ellis (GGP) +more

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:  26

Kit 21162 
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > Travis Francis Guthrey/Mary Anne Hill > Dennett Hill Guthrey/Sarah Hart > Eppa Dennett Guthrie/Nancy Franklin > Martha Anderson Guthrie/Mason Wiley Jones > Ruth Callaway Jones/Owen Bertram Brock (GGP)

Kit 106195
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > William Guthrie/Rebecca Noel > William Buck Guthrie/Elizabeth T Coleman > William Poindexter Guthrie/Jane Guthrie* > Morris Guthrie/Elizabeth Ann ‘Liza’ McEwen Guthrie (GGP) // *SLAVE

Kit 212341
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > Alexander King Guthrie/Sarah MNU > Alexander Iverson Guthrie Sr/Margaret Wilhoit > Amanda M Guthrie/John Brewer > Dennis Iverson Brewer/Elizabeth Ellen Young (GGP)

Kit 237994
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > Henry Guthrie/Patsy MNU > Walker Guthrie/Naoma Sharp > Henrietta Guthrie/Benjamin F Chastain > Mary Jane Chastain/James Botkin King (GGP)

Kit 253548
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > Alexander King Guthrey/Sarah MNU > Sarah Sally Guthrie/Jesse D Parker > Susannah ‘Susan’ G Parker/Thomas Brown > Jesse A Brown/Mary Jane Byrns > Cynthia Ann Brown/Sidney Maupin Silver (GGP)

Kit 270546
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > John Guthrey/Elizabeth ‘Betty’ Ann Allen > Rebecca Guthrey/Archibald Rowlett > Frances Woodson Rowlett/Harvey White Collier > Minnie Cornelia Collier/Emerson House (GGP)

Kit 281612
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > John Guthrey/Elizabeth ‘Betty’ Ann Allen > John Guthrey Jr/Edna Adams > Richard Adams Guthrie/Elitha Amanda Lovelace > Susan Frances Guthrie/Robert Wilson Anderson (GGP)

Kit 292352
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > John Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betty’ Ann Allen > Sally King Guthrie/Richard Crews > Armistead Crews/Mary Sparrow > Elizabeth Jane ‘Eliza’ Crews/William Henry Cole (GGP)

Kit 305327
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > Elizabeth Guthrey/David Morris > Mary Polly Morris/William Hunter > David Morris Hunter/Sarah Jane Ellis > George David Morris Hunter/Virginia M Thomson > Henry Bascom Hunter/Florence Belle Allen (GGP)

Kit 342723
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > John Guthrey/Elizabeth ‘Betty’ Ann Allen > Rebecca Guthrey/Archibald Rowlett > Frances Woodson Rowlett/Harvey White Collier > Minnie Cornelia Collier/Emerson House (GGP)

Kit 351120
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > Elizabeth Guthrey/David Morris> Guthrie Gentry Morris/Dorothy Dolly Holland > Elizabeth Morris/Thomas Anderson Sims > Martha Washington Sims/Jackson William Winn (GGP)

Kit 440698
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > William Guthrie/Rebecca Noel > William Buck Guthrie Guthrie/Elizabeth T Coleman > William Poindexter Guthrie/Eliza Jane England > William Penn Guthrie/Celia Elizabeth Harding > Lula Guthrie/Pat Beale (GGP)

Kit 856776
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > William Guthrie/Rebecca Noel > William Buck Guthrie/Elizabeth T Coleman > William Poindexter Guthrie/Eliza Jane England > William Penn Guthrie/Alice V Bagwell > William Ashmond Guthrie/Sarah E Turner (GGP)

Kit B4529
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > Alexander King Guthrie/Sarah MNU > Sarah Guthrie/Jesse D Parker > Mary Ann Parker/William Morgan Jesse > Sarah Guthrie Jesse William T Bradley > Joseph Samuel Bradley/Nancy Isabel Wayne > Elmer Earl Bradley/Florence Offutt (GGP)

Kit B4884
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > John Guthrey/Elizabeth ‘Betty’ Ann Allen > Rebecca Guthrey/Archibald Rowlett > Frances Woodson Rowlett/Harvey White Collier > Minnie Cornelia Collier/Emerson House (GGP)

Kit B5649
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > John Guthrey/Elizabeth ‘Betty’ Ann Allen > Rebecca Guthrey/Archibald Rowlett > Frances Woodson Rowlett/Harvey White Collier (GGP)

Kit B12447
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > Alexander Guthrie/Sarah MNU > Benjamin Guthrie/Frances MNU > Benjamin Guthrie/Catharine Ramsey > Alexander Guthrie/Caroline Wooldridge > Joseph W Guthrie/Flora Hawkins > Beulah Vesta Guthrie/Hall Ash McGee (GGP)

Kit B53745
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > John Guthrey/Elizabeth ‘Betty’ Ann Allen > John Guthrey/Edna Adams > Jackson Guthrie/Paulina Stowe > Jackson A ‘Jack’ Guthrie/Mary Elizabeth A Guthrie* (GGP) // ALSO : Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > Travis Francis Guthrey/Mary Anne Hill > James Guthrey/Mary Hubbard > Chastain Coleman Guthrie/Ann Elizabeth Sparrow > Mary Elizabeth A Guthrie* (GGP)

Kit B107491
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > Elizabeth Guthrey/David Morris > Guthrie Gentry Morris/Dorothy ‘Dolly’ Holland > Mary Elizabeth ‘Polly’ Morris/Joel Parrish > Lucy Virginia Parish/William Meredith Hall (GGP)

Kit B203421
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > William Guthrie/Rebecca Noel > William ‘Buck’ Guthrie/Elizabeth Coleman > William Poindexter Guthrie/Eliza Jane England > William Penn Guthrie/Celia Elizabeth Harding > Lula Guthrie/Pat Beale (GGP)

Kit B203450
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > William Guthrie/Rebecca Noel > William ‘Buck’ Guthrie/Elizabeth Coleman > William Poindexter Guthrie/Eliza Jane England > William Penn Guthrie/Celia Elizabeth Harding > Lula Guthrie/Pat Beale (GGP)

Kit B255704
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > Travis Francis Guthrey/Mary Anne Hill > Dennett Hill Guthrey/Sarah Hart > Eppa Dennett Guthrie/Nancy Franklin > Martha Anderson Guthrie/Mason Wiley Jones (GGP)

Kit B383534
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > William Guthrey/Rebecca Noel > William ‘Buck’ Guthrie/Elizabeth Coleman > John James Guthrie/Martha Goodman > Thomas Goodman Guthrie/Nancy Amos > Blythe Samuel Guthrie/Elizabeth Hendrick Guthrie* (GP) // ALSO: Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > William Guthrey/Rebecca Noel > William ‘Buck’ Guthrie/Elizabeth Coleman > Edward Travis Guthrie/Louisa Cook Garnett > Walter LeRoy Guthrie/Harriet Hendrick > Walter LeRoy Guthrie/Lillian Young Coleman > Elizabeth Hendrick Guthrie* (GP)

Kit B935706
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > Alexander Guthrie/Sarah MNU > Benjamin Guthrie/Frances MNU > Benjamin Guthrie/Catharine Ramsey > Fielden Guthrie/Elizabeth Douglas > Alfred Allen Guthrie/ Laura Francis Hook (GGP)

Kit N44050
Thomas Guthrie/Sarah Oakes > Elizabeth Guthrey/David Morris > Mary Polly Morris/William Hunter > David Morris Hunter/Sarah Jane Ellis > George David Morris Hunter/Virginia M Thomson (GGP)

AncestryDNA
Thomas Guthrey/Sarah Oakes > Alexander King Guthrie/Sarah MNU > Benjamin Guthrie/Frances MNU > Benjamin Guthrie/ Catherine Ramsey > Norburn Guthrie > ‘Lydia’ Arena Ann Stansbury > David Benjamin Guthrie/Mary Elizabeth Beck (GGP)

Findings:

Guthrie Family Group 4 does not match the genetic profiles for any of the other Guthrie Family Groups. Most if not all of the lineages can be traced back to Thomas Guthrey, or at least to the same region in Virginia that Thomas Guthrey lived.

It is possible that the extended ancestry of Thomas Guthrey also matches this genetic profile, and he is genetically part of an unidentified historical group of Guthrie men who trace their ancestry back to England and/or Scotland. However, it is also possible that Thomas Guthrey is the first of a line of Guthrey men in Virginia with ‘other’ Y-DNA due to some causal event such as adoption or false paternity.

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