2A-D: Jane Guthrie
Guthrie Family Group 2A · Branch D · Child Page
Jane Guthrie& Andrew Dye
Pennsylvania to Ohio · The Dye, Schell & Clark Families
Jane Guthrie was a daughter of Archibald Guthery and Rebecca Phillips. Born about 1777, she was a small child when her father died during the Revolutionary War. Her mother subsequently married Solomon Hobbs.
Jane married Andrew Dye, and their family moved from Pennsylvania to Ohio. Six children are attributed to this marriage. Jane’s death is generally placed between 1806 and 1812, but the exact date and her burial place remain unknown.
The Family at a Glance
Jane Guthrie
- Parents
- Archibald Guthery and Rebecca Phillips.
- Born
- About 1777, Pennsylvania; family research associates her with the area now in Greene County.
- Died
- Generally estimated 1806–1812, reportedly in Ohio. Neither the exact date nor the precise place has been established.
- Burial
- Unknown. The suggested Old Blue Cemetery burial is unconfirmed.
Andrew Dye
- Parents
- Andrew Dye (1744–1835) and Sarah Minor.
- Born
- Reported 25 December 1774, Pennsylvania.
- Second Marriage
- 17 November 1812, Warren County, Ohio, to Catherine Riffle; indexed as Andrew Die and Catharine Riffle.
- Died
- Reported 3 April 1838, Concord Township, Miami County, Ohio.
- Burial
- Reported Old Blue Cemetery, Miami County, Ohio.
Jane & Andrew
Estimated marriage: about 1795–1797 · Six children in the family reconstruction
Pennsylvania is the proposed marriage location, but an original marriage record has not established the date or place. The dates and descendant rosters below follow the reviewed Research Tree and family accounts; not every event has independent documentary confirmation.
| Child & Dates | Marriage | Family Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Stephen W. Dye About 1798–1832 |
Elizabeth McCullough, reported 6 January 1821 | Three children. Pennsylvania and Ohio birthplaces are both reported. |
| Archibald Dye 1799–1851 |
Margaret Meredith / Merideth, reported 27 April 1819 | Twelve children; later associated with Tippecanoe County, Indiana. |
| Andrew Alexander Dye 1800–1857 |
Catherine Bousman, reported 19 September 1820 | Nine children; associated with Miami County, Ohio. His exact death day remains unresolved. |
| Rebecca Dye About 1802–death unknown |
James Schell / Shell, reported 11 December 1828 | Four children; later associated with Tippecanoe County, Indiana. |
| Solomon Dye About 1804–death unknown |
Mary Juliet Shell, reported 14 August 1834 | Nine children; later associated with Tippecanoe County, Indiana. |
| Sarah M. Dye 1806–1843 |
David Clark Jr., reported 28 January 1836 | One identified child, Nancy Jane Clark. |
The Children’s Families
These expandable rosters preserve the descendants identified in the family research. Approximate dates, surname variants, and unresolved questions remain visible.
Stephen W. Dye & Elizabeth McCullough
Stephen was born about 1798 and reportedly married Elizabeth McCullough (1800–1865) on 6 January 1821 in Miami County, Ohio. His birthplace is unresolved: the family accounts give Pennsylvania, while the reviewed profile gives Ohio. His death is reported in 1832.
- Marshall Alexander Dye — 1821–1906; married Lydia Gates, Anna Riker, and Nancy Mock.
- Mary Jane Dye — born about 1825; married John F. McDonald. Her death date and children remain unconfirmed.
- Margaret Maria Dye — 1827–1908; married Thomas Budd Van Horne.
Elizabeth later married Moses Grant Mitchell, reportedly on 23 February 1837. Their son John Grant Mitchell, born in 1838, belongs to that later marriage.
Archibald Dye & Margaret Meredith / Merideth
Archibald’s working birth date is 5 February 1799. He reportedly married Margaret Meredith, also spelled Merideth (1797–1864), on 27 April 1819. Their family settled in Tippecanoe County, Indiana.
- Eliza Dye — 1820–1820; died in infancy.
- Maria Louisa / Louise Dye — born in 1821; married Joseph H. Louthain. Her death is reported as 1880 in the tree, with a broader 1860–1880 interval in the earlier account.
- Patrick Dye — born about 1822; reported with his parents in 1850, aged 28 and unmarried. Later life untraced.
- Albert M. Dye — 1824–1911; married Elizabeth Taylor.
- Frances Dye — 1826–1891; married Enoch L. Van Sant.
- William Alfred Dye — born about 1827–1828; died in 1907; married Julia Jacintha Fairchild.
- Horatio Phillips Dye — 1829–1859; married Margaret Ramsey.
- Martha Dye — 1831–1917; married William Penn Sovern.
- Cyrus Dye — 1833–1924; married Louisa Chamness.
- Margaret E. Dye — 1838–1895; married Elias N. George Corns.
- John E. Dye — 1843–1862; reported to have died in Mississippi during the Civil War.
- Elizabeth Dye — born about 1849; reported in the 1850 household. Her absence from the later household does not establish a death date.
Archibald’s death is reported as 23 September 1851, and Margaret’s as 24 March 1864. Both are reported buried in Sand Ridge Cemetery, West Lafayette, Indiana. An estate event dated 28 August 1851 precedes Archibald’s reported death and needs examination before it can be described as probate.
Andrew Alexander Dye & Catherine Bousman
Andrew was reportedly born 14 September 1800 in Pennsylvania. He married Catherine Bousman (1802–1866), reportedly on 19 September 1820 in Miami County, Ohio. Their working roster contains six daughters and three sons.
- Sarah Jane Dye — 1822–1823; died in infancy.
- Phebe Dye — 1824–1903; married William Warren Volley Buchanan.
- Maryetta Dye — 1826–1834; died in childhood.
- Elizabeth Jane Dye — 1829–1890; married Henry Stoltz, then Samuel T. Hahn.
- Leonard Dye — 1832–1865; the circumstances of his reported death require further documentation.
- Rebecca Shell Dye — born about 1834; reported in Piqua, Ohio, in 1910 as an unmarried milliner.
- Andrew Dye — 1837–1837; died in infancy.
- Sarah Catherine Dye — 1839–1923; married James Honeyman.
- William Minor Dye — 1842–1928; married Mary Angelina Patterson.
Andrew died in 1857. The Research Tree gives 31 October, while the earlier family account gives 18 October; the day remains unresolved. Catherine’s death is reported as 11 August 1866.
Rebecca Dye & James Schell / Shell
Rebecca was born about 1802, reportedly in Pennsylvania. She married James Schell, also spelled Shell (1789–1852), reportedly on 11 December 1828 in Miami County, Ohio. The family later lived in Tippecanoe County, Indiana.
- Sarah Jane Schell — 1831–1916; married James Wainscot.
- Maria “Mary” Schell — 1836–1852; died in adolescence.
- Edward Alexander Schell / Shell — 1840–1924; married Eliza, whose birth surname is unknown, and Margaret L. Cummings.
- James L. Schell — born about 1843; the family account cites a Civil War record in 1862. Later life remains unconfirmed.
Rebecca is reported in the 1850 Wabash Township household. James’s death is reported as 11 December 1852; it has not been established whether Rebecca survived him.
Solomon Dye & Mary Juliet Shell
Solomon was born about 1804, reportedly in Pennsylvania. He married Mary Juliet Shell (1810–1870), reportedly on 14 August 1834 in Miami County, Ohio. Their family later settled in Tippecanoe County, Indiana.
- Maranda V. Dye — 1835–1908; married John Schell / Shell.
- James Solomon Dye — about 1836–1877; married Catherine Coffman.
- Archibald Dye — 1838–1911; married Barbara Anna Simmons.
- Albert Dye — born about 1844; later life untraced in the reviewed material.
- Martha Jane Dye — 1847–1921; married Elijah Gould.
- Ursula A. Dye — born about 1850; reported with the family through 1860.
- Minerva B. Dye — born about 1853; reported in Wabash Township in 1870.
- Henrietta Dye — born about 1856; reported in the 1860 household.
- John Dye — born about 1859; reported in the 1860 household.
Solomon’s death date remains unknown. A Lafayette directory reference dated 1873 is a research lead that needs comparison with the original entry and this family’s other records.
Sarah M. Dye & David Clark Jr.
Sarah’s reported dates are 18 March 1806–5 October 1843. She was reportedly born in Ohio and married David Clark Jr. (1810–1885) on 28 January 1836 in Miami County.
- Nancy Jane Clark — 1843–1916; married Edward Wall.
David subsequently married Margaret Morrow in 1847, according to the family account. The children of that later marriage do not descend from Jane Guthrie through Sarah.
Andrew’s Second Family — Catherine Riffle
The reviewed marriage index records Andrew Die and Catharine Riffle on 17 November 1812 in Warren County, Ohio. Catherine’s reported dates are 24 November 1784–24 November 1853; her birthplace remains unconfirmed. Andrew and Catherine are reported buried in Old Blue Cemetery.
The Research Tree assigns these four children to their marriage:
- Jane Dye — 1814–1844.
- Minor L. Dye — 1818–1879.
- Miranda S. Dye — 1820–1844.
- Alexander McCullough Dye — 1825–1908.
These are the younger half-siblings of Jane Guthrie’s six children. Catherine is reported living with Minor and his family in Concord Township in 1850.
The marriage index documents the later marriage. It does not name Jane, state her death date, or establish the circumstances in which Andrew’s first marriage ended.
Historical Highlights
From a Revolutionary Household to Ohio
Jane was about two years old when her father died during Revolutionary service in 1779. The surviving military correspondence gives a glimpse of the crisis that changed her family. On 4 August, Colonel Daniel Brodhead wrote from Pittsburgh to Captain Samuel Dawson about sending Dr. Benneville to help a wounded man named Guthrie.
Family research identifies that soldier as Archibald, whose death at Fort Pitt is reported as 5 August. Rebecca was left with Elizabeth, Jane, and their infant brother Archibald. She later married Solomon Hobbs.
“I am very sorry for poor Guthrie” … “but I fear it is in vain.”
Daniel Brodhead to Samuel Dawson, 4 August 1779; Pennsylvania Archives, First Series, volume XII, Appendix p. 151, letter 50. The letter gives only the surname Guthrie.
Jane’s own household began with Andrew Dye in the 1790s. Their family history follows a movement from southwestern Pennsylvania into Ohio, although the precise date of migration remains uncertain. The children’s reported birthplaces differ, so each needs individual examination.
The next generation extended those connections into Indiana. Archibald, Rebecca, and Solomon Dye’s families became associated with Tippecanoe County, while Andrew Alexander and Sarah’s families remained connected with Ohio. Their marriages brought the McCullough, Meredith, Bousman, Schell, Shell, and Clark names into this part of Branch D.
Jane left few records in her own name. Preserving her place in these families depends on bringing the published accounts, descendants’ records, and contemporary documents together, while keeping the unanswered questions visible.
Family Timeline
Early dates are reported or estimated unless a particular record is identified.
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About 1777
Jane’s Birth
Jane is born in Pennsylvania, the second child in the reconstructed family of Archibald Guthery and Rebecca Phillips.
Family histories and Research Tree; exact birth date unproved.
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August 1779
Her Father’s Death
Archibald dies during Revolutionary service at Fort Pitt. Rebecca later marries Solomon Hobbs.
Brodhead’s letter, service-record research, and family history; see the Family Hub.
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About 1795–1797
Marriage to Andrew Dye
Jane and Andrew establish their own household, probably in Pennsylvania.
Estimated marriage date and place; an original entry has not been located.
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About 1798–1806
Six Children
Stephen, Archibald, Andrew Alexander, Rebecca, Solomon, and Sarah are attributed to the marriage.
Working family roster; reported birthplaces require individual verification.
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1806–1812
Estimated Death Period
Family research generally places Jane’s death within this interval, reportedly in Ohio.
Provisional estimate, not a death record; the exact date and burial remain unknown.
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17 Nov 1812
Andrew & Catherine Riffle
Andrew enters his second reported marriage in Warren County, Ohio.
Ohio county marriage index: Andrew Die and Catharine Riffle, film 000384263.
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1814–1825
Andrew’s Later Children
Jane, Minor, Miranda, and Alexander McCullough Dye are assigned to Andrew and Catherine’s marriage.
Research Tree; these children are distinguished from Jane Guthrie’s family.
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3 Apr 1838
Andrew’s Reported Death
Andrew dies in Concord Township, Miami County, Ohio. His burial is reported in Old Blue Cemetery.
Research Tree and family accounts; exact death and burial details remain reported information.
Explore the Records
The family reconstruction draws on published genealogy, the Guthrie Research Tree, and the supplied family profiles and record indexes. A source may establish one event without proving every relationship attached to it. The distinctions below identify what is supported and what remains to be found.
Jane’s Marriage, Death & Burial
The marriage to Andrew Dye is generally estimated about 1795–1797. Pennsylvania is a proposed location, not a verified marriage place.
Jane’s death is usually placed between 1806 and 1812, using the reported birth of her youngest child and Andrew’s later marriage as chronological guides. This remains a provisional family estimate. The 1812 marriage index does not identify Jane or document her death.
No verified burial record or marker has been identified for Jane. Old Blue Cemetery is a suggested location, not an established burial.
The 1812 Marriage Index
The supplied index names Andrew Die and Catharine Riffle, married 17 November 1812 in Warren County, Ohio. Its film reference is 000384263.
The original county entry is the next source to inspect for its full wording, officiant, and any additional identifying information. The index should not be described as an original certificate. An unverified volume and page are not supplied here.
Land Records, Heirs & the Earlier Archibald
The Revolutionary donation-land register records 200 acres for the heirs of Archibald Gutherie, private: lot 1686, District 8, printed p. 73, returned 25 April 1787. The individual heirs are not named. This entry cannot independently establish Jane’s identity as a daughter.
That military entitlement is separate from the 1769 application and 1788 Brush Creek survey associated with Archibald Guthry and John Irwin. The earlier land claim must not be combined with the Revolutionary donation.
The possible connection to an older Archibald who served in the French and Indian War remains a promising family-origins question. The Family Hub’s earlier Archibald discussion examines the military, land, and Irwin associations without treating the proposed parentage as proved.
Children’s Dates, Places & Estate Questions
Archibald Dye: 1799 is the working birth year, consistent with the reviewed profile; the earlier 1779 entry is incompatible with his placement as Jane’s son. The precise birth date still requires independent evidence. His reported 23 September 1851 death must be compared with the estate event dated 28 August: the latter may have been classified incorrectly, and its original wording is needed.
Andrew Alexander Dye: retain 1857 as his death year. The competing 18 October and 31 October dates remain unresolved.
Birthplaces: the six children should not all be described as born in Ohio. Pennsylvania and Ohio appear in the family information, with a particular conflict for Stephen. Later county names are used only with appropriate qualification.
Rebecca and Solomon Dye: their death dates remain unknown. A later directory or a spouse’s death does not settle their own death dates without reliable identification and additional evidence.
The rosters: no original record has yet been identified that explicitly names all six children as Jane’s. The family lists are retained as a working reconstruction; the four children assigned to Catherine Riffle remain a separate family.
DNA Participation
Jane did not transmit her father’s Y chromosome to her children. Y-DNA or Big-Y testing through an unbroken Dye paternal line would investigate that Dye line. The Guthery paternal evidence for Branch D is discussed on the Family Hub.
| Child’s Line | Guthery Y-DNA | Guthery Big-Y | Autosomal |
|---|---|---|---|
| Stephen W. Dye | Not transmitted through Jane | Not transmitted through Jane | Not recorded |
| Archibald Dye | Not transmitted through Jane | Not transmitted through Jane | Not recorded |
| Andrew Alexander Dye | Not transmitted through Jane | Not transmitted through Jane | Not recorded |
| Rebecca Dye | Not transmitted through Jane | Not transmitted through Jane | Not recorded |
| Solomon Dye | Not transmitted through Jane | Not transmitted through Jane | Not recorded |
| Sarah M. Dye | Not transmitted through Jane | Not transmitted through Jane | Not recorded |
No participant is currently identified specifically through Jane’s family in the reviewed project notes. “Not recorded” does not mean that no descendant has tested. Descendants with documented lines are welcome to contribute their family research and relevant autosomal results.
Sources & Further Reading
- Guthrie Research Tree: Jane Guthrie and Andrew Dye, with the six children’s profiles and Andrew’s later family, supplied for review. These preserve the working relationships, dates, and record leads.
- Ohio county marriage index: Andrew Die and Catharine Riffle, 17 November 1812, Warren County, film 000384263. The supplied image is an index, not the original county entry.
- Brodhead’s letter: Pennsylvania Archives, First Series, volume XII, Appendix p. 151, letter 50, 4 August 1779. The patient is named only as Guthrie.
- Rebecca’s widowhood: Pennsylvania Archives, Fifth Series, volume IV, p. 162, depreciation-pay list naming Rebecca as Archibald Guthry’s widow.
- Military donation register: Pennsylvania State Archives, heirs of Archibald Gutherie, lot 1686, District 8, p. 73; 200 acres, return 25 April 1787. Individual heirs are not listed.
- Laurence R. Guthrie, American Guthrie and Allied Families (1933), pp. 376–377, for the Archibald Guthery–Rebecca Phillips family. This is authored genealogical research, to be compared with contemporary records.
- Guthrie DNA Project member notes, 15 October 2026: no participant specifically identified through Jane in the reviewed information.
Most Wanted Documents
- Jane and Andrew’s marriage: an original register, family Bible, church record, or contemporary family correspondence establishing its date and place.
- Jane’s death and burial: a dated family record, cemetery inscription, death notice, church burial entry, or estate document naming her.
- The six-child family: a Bible, estate distribution, deed, guardianship, or other record explicitly linking Jane to her children.
- Andrew and Catherine’s marriage: the full Warren County entry underlying the 17 November 1812 index.
- Migration and birthplaces: original tax, land, church, census, and family records distinguishing the Pennsylvania and Ohio stages of the family.
- The next generation: Archibald Dye’s complete 1851 estate file, evidence resolving Andrew Alexander Dye’s October 1857 death day, and death or burial records for Rebecca and Solomon Dye.
Help Build the Family Story
Jane’s story connects the young family left after her father’s Revolutionary service with the Dye families of Ohio and Indiana. Her own life remains only partly documented, but the families attributed to her six children preserve many paths for further research.
A family Bible, a letter naming a mother or sister, or an overlooked estate paper could help establish a relationship or date that later accounts leave uncertain. Descendants of the Dye, Schell, Shell, Clark, and allied families are welcome to share records and documented family lines.
