Elisabeth’s first family is described as three sons and one daughter; their names have not yet been established in this study. The 16 January 1755 marriage names Joseph Carey as groom. It must not be used as the date of her later marriage to Joseph Guthrie.

Rachel’s Kirby children are listed as Rachel (born 1759), Reuben (1760–1827), Seula (born 1762), and Sarah (1765–1832). Laurence R. Guthrie reports that Reuben married Anna Guthrie, with a cross-reference to page 87. The published New Preston marriage transcription lists Reuben Curby of Litchfield and Anne Guthrie, 29 October 1782. Their full identification should be correlated with the original church and family records.

These earlier families matter when interpreting Joseph’s household. A census tally cannot be assigned automatically to his nine Guthrie children.

Truman was born 14 January 1765 and died 30 March 1841, with burial reported at Newbury. He married Elizabeth Stone (1771–1851), daughter of Col. Israel Stone, on 21 July 1796. The family preserves a story of the couple’s journey home by canoe after their wedding.

His Ohio arrival on 3 July 1788, return to Connecticut, and subsequent journey with Stephen form an important part of the family’s migration narrative. The dated 1793 conveyance from their father documents a later transfer of a share; it should not be silently moved back to 1788.

1. Truman Guthrie (1798–1873) — Ohio farmer. Married Hannah Knowles in 1826; the legacy research lists a second marriage to Dianah Loucks in 1864. Children. Seymour’s 1889 account instead describes a widow named Chick and a January 1863 marriage; the remarriage needs comparison with the original record.
2. Augustus Stone Guthrie (1802–1865) — Ohio farmer; married Cynthia Ann Knowles in 1832. Children.
3. James Harvey Guthrie (1804–1877) — Ohio farmer; married Charlotte Oakes in 1835, Mary Bent in 1844, and Belinda Switzer in 1858. Children.
4. Charles Lysander Guthrie (1806–1892) — Ohio merchant; married Almira Dunham in 1837. Children.
5. Benjamin Franklin Guthrie (1808–1879) — Ohio carpenter; married Amelia Josephine Bierce in 1848. Children.
6. Edwin Guthrie (1810–1884) — Ohio farmer; married Amelia Knowles in 1836 and Charlotte Bent in 1853. Children.
7. David Quinn Guthrie (1813–1863) — Ohio farm laborer; married Elizabeth Henderson in 1846. No children reported.

Y-DNA representation follows Charles Lysander’s family. Autosomal participation follows Charles Lysander and Benjamin Franklin; kit numbers appear in the DNA section.

Stephen married Sally Chappell/Chappelle (1770–1818) in January 1789. Ann’s tree gives 1 January; the published New Preston church transcription gives 11 January. The original entry is needed to settle the day.

He joined Truman in Ohio in the spring following Truman’s first journey. After Sally’s death, he married the widow Miriam (Ward) Palmer (1764–1850) on 9 November 1819. Stephen died 3 September 1827 at Newbury, Ohio, according to the family account.

1. Laura Matilda Guthrie (1789–1818 or 1875) — born Connecticut; married Amos Dunham in 1804. Children. The legacy page gives 1818 as her death year; the current research tree gives 1875. This remains unresolved.
2. Julius Chappell Guthrie (1792–1849) — Ohio merchant; married Pamelia Buckingham in 1817. Children.
3. Erastus Guthrie (1798–1861) — Ohio farmer and merchant; married Achsah Palmer in 1821. Children.
4. Almira Guthrie (1800–1880) — married Walter Curtis, a farmer, in 1819. Children.
5. Albert Austin Guthrie (1803–1874) — Ohio merchant; married Amelia Sturges in 1825. Children.
6. Sheldon Guthrie Sr. (1805–1888) — born Ohio; died Louisiana. Miller, sales agent, and clerk; married Emily Ann Terry in 1830. Children.
7. Stephen Hand Guthrie (1809–1886) — Ohio salt dealer; married Ruth Metcalf in 1834 and Mary Strong in 1860. Children.
8. George Nelson Guthrie (1811–1890 or 1891) — salt dealer; married Sarah Ann McFarland on 19 September 1839. Children. “Abbott,” included in her name on the legacy page, needs documentation. George’s death year also requires reconciliation.
9. Columbus Bierce Guthrie (1814–1877) — born Ohio; died Washington, D.C. Railroad conductor; married Mary Saphronia Metcalf in 1839 and Jane Morton in 1845. Children.

Updated participation: Family Finder kit 980968 represents Stephen and Sally through Julius Chappell and Pamelia Buckingham. This updates the legacy page’s statement that no autosomal participant was recorded.

Elias’s birth is variously given as 9 or 19 July 1769, with 1770 also appearing in the compiled account. He married Phoebe Stone (1772–1812) at New Milford on 27 August 1789. The middle name Almira appears in the research tree but needs confirmation.

The family is associated with Washington, Connecticut, in 1800 and New Milford in 1810. A marriage of Elias Guthrie to Mary Davis, 28 May 1820, Meigs County, Ohio, suggests a later move west. Until the two men are firmly correlated, “after 1820” remains a provisional death limit.

1. Truman Guthrie (1791–1813) — born Connecticut; died Maryland. Soldier in the War of 1812; married Anna Wagner in Connecticut in 1811. Children.
2. Minerva Guthrie — legacy birth 24 April 1791; the current tree gives 1793. Later history unknown.
3. Betsy/Betsey Guthrie — born 11 January 1794/1795. Later history unknown.
4. Henman Guthrie I — born 19 October 1797; died in infancy that year.
5. Henman Guthrie II — born 19 December 1798. Later history unknown.
6. Annie Guthrie — born 12 November 1800. Later history unknown.
7. Stephen Guthrie (1802–1865) — born Connecticut; died Washington. Minister; married Anna Amy Harper in Ohio in 1824. Children.

The two Henman entries are identified as daughters in the research tree, consistent with the reported total of two sons and five daughters. Original births or baptisms are still wanted. Family Finder kit B709455 follows Stephen and Anna Amy Harper; the participant also reports another Guthrie ancestral line.

Joseph, born 19 February 1773 in Kent, married Keziah Root (1775–1870) about 1795. The family account places their move to Ohio around the same time as his father’s. The early children’s competing Connecticut, New Hampshire, and Ohio birthplaces show that the itinerary still needs work.

He appears in the research sequence at Orange, Meigs County, in 1830; Bedford in 1840; and Orange in 1850, when his age is given as seventy-seven. He reportedly died in July 1854. The Orange Cemetery identification needs a precise location. “George” appears as his middle name in the tree, but no reviewed record establishes it.

1. William Augustus Guthrie (1797 or 1799–1815) — birthplace variously Connecticut, New Hampshire, or Ohio; died in Ohio, aged about sixteen to eighteen.
2. Charles Frederick Guthrie (1799–1845) — same competing birthplaces; died Ohio. Married Nancy Cowdery in Ohio in 1821. Children.
3. Amy Guthrie (1802–1831) — same competing birthplaces; died Ohio. Married Brazilla/Basailler Hosmer Miles in 1823. Children.
4. Harriet Guthrie (1804–1888) — born Ohio; died Missouri. Married Moses Green in Ohio in 1823. Children.
5. Sophia Guthrie (1805–1887) — born Ohio; died Missouri. Housekeeper; unmarried, with no children reported.
6. Milo Guthrie (1809–1874) — born Ohio; died Iowa. Farmer; married Eliza Ann VanPelt in Ohio in 1834. Children.
7. Auriella Guthrie (1811–1901) — Ohio; married John Tucker in 1836. Children.
8. Joseph Guthrie (1818–1890) — Ohio farmer; married Sarah Ann Hazelton in 1842, Patience VanPelt in 1859, and Margaret Stout in 1869. Children.

Kit 839545 represents this family through Joseph (1818), Sarah Ann Hazelton, and their son George Phineas Guthrie, with both Y-DNA and Family Finder participation.

Elisabeth Carpenter / Carey: the supplied Kent Barbour index identifies Joseph Carey in the 16 January 1755 marriage. That date was attached to Joseph Guthrie in the research tree, but it belongs to her earlier marriage. The Guthrie histories place her marriage to Joseph Guthrie about 1759–1760. The death index identifies Elisabeth, wife of Joseph Guthrie, on 15 August 1765.

Her proposed Carpenter parents: Eugene Cole Zubrinsky’s “Three John Carpenters: A Chain of Mistaken Identities,” NEHGR 159 (January 2005), pages 47–49, places an Elizabeth born 16 May 1733 and baptized 24 June 1733 in the family of John and Sarah Carpenter of Norwich, Windham, and Stafford. It rejects a reported marriage to Hezekiah May, but does not identify her as the Carey–Guthrie wife. A Carey marriage, estate, guardianship, or Carpenter probate record is needed to bridge those identities. Sarah’s maiden name remains unproved. The memorial index’s 1732 birth year also differs from the 1733 birth entry.

Rachel Hand / Curby / Kirby: Early Connecticut Marriages, book 5, page 30, records Joseph Curby and Rachel Hand on 24 March 1757 at Bethlehem. Kent Barbour, printed page 99, citing original volume 1, page 18, records Rachal Kirby/Kerby and Joseph Guthrie on 9 April 1767, married by Rev. Daniel Brinsmade. Laurence R. Guthrie, page 122, gives her parents as Stephen Hand and Rachel Walston. That compiled ancestry needs independent confirmation.

Hannah Cogswell: the Washington church abstract, volume 120, printed page 20, referring to church page 104, records the marriage on 10 December 1778 and describes both parties as of New Preston. The abbreviation means both of, not “born in.” Woodard/Woodward, widowhood, and the absence of earlier children come from family accounts, not from that marriage entry. No first name for her Cogswell husband or parents has been established.

The accessible New Preston marriage transcription supplies a useful comparison for Hannah’s marriage, Reuben Curby and Anne Guthrie, and Stephen Guthrie and Sally Chappell. Its 11 January 1789 date for Stephen should be checked against the original before replacing the tree’s 1 January.

Rachel: the family history and research tree give 6 March 1777; the supplied Find a Grave index gives 16 January 1777. A church death entry or clear inscription is needed to resolve the day.

Abigail I, daughter of Joseph and Elisabeth: Ann’s legacy page and tree give 24 February 1763–18 November 1781, with death from smallpox. The tree cites Barbour for the birth, but the actual entry was not among the reviewed images. Laurence R. Guthrie, page 122, instead places her birth about 1760 and death on 18 November 1781 in her twenty-first year.

The Hale transcription reads: “Abigail, daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth, died Nov. 18, 1787, age 20 years.” That 1787 reading must remain visible rather than being silently changed to 1781. The source is Connecticut Headstone Inscriptions, volume 51, Baldwin Hill Cemetery 623-4, page 82, copied by David Davis on 10 November 1934, image 634 of 663. Its cemetery label also needs comparison with the Averill Cemetery identification used in the family research.

Abigail II, daughter of Joseph and Hannah: the same Hale page gives 8 August 1787, age one year. Laurence R. Guthrie reports a January 1785 birth, a 4 June 1785 baptism of Abigail and Joseph, children of Joseph Guthrie, and an age at death of one year eight months, explicitly noting the difficulty.

Those details cannot all agree: January 1785 to August 1787 is about two years seven months, while an age of one year eight months would place birth around December 1785, after the stated baptism. Joseph’s baptism alongside Abigail does not make them twins; the family account assigns him the 1773 birth.

Amy: the supplied church index supports a 2 December 1787 baptism, with father Joseph. It does not give an exact birth date. Her approximately 1796 Ohio death remains a family-history statement, so an exact age of nine should not be treated as independently proved.

Source: Berkshire County, Massachusetts, court record, volume 1, page 298, case 47; image preserved in Ann’s research tree and supplied for this study.

The plaintiff is Joseph Guthrie of Kent, Litchfield County, Colony of Connecticut, yeoman. The defendant is John Pill of Sheffield, Berkshire County, gentleman. The action concerns a promissory note made at Sheffield on 6 April 1763 for £17 11s. 5d., payable by 1 June following, with lawful interest.

Joseph, represented by John Ashley Jr., Esq., seeks £20 in damages. Pill appears and confesses judgment for £18 damages and lawful costs. The court awards that amount plus £1 14s. 3d. costs. The record ends with execution issued 7 October 1763.

This is an abstract of the supplied manuscript. The 6 April date belongs to the note, not necessarily the court hearing. The entry supplies a contemporary residence, occupation, and financial association; it does not establish that Joseph lived in Massachusetts.

• 1756 — John Guthrie’s will: Joseph receives one-fifth of the Judea lands, a yoke of oxen, a Dutch mare, two sows, a yearling heifer, and four sheep. Preserve the will’s “fourth son” wording alongside the complete family roster.
• 1791 — Joel Titus to Joseph Guthrie: Dunn & Dunn, page 12, and Laurence R. Guthrie, page 121, report Woodbury land with a forge and tools. The original deed, book and page, boundaries, water rights, and tool description remain to be located.
• 9 July 1792 — Benjamin Talmadge to Joseph Guthrie: Ann’s abstract names Talmadge of Litchfield as agent for the Ohio Company associates and Joseph as of Washington, Connecticut. It describes two shares of land in Washington, northwest of the Ohio River.
• 27 September 1792 — John Harrand to Joseph Guthrie: reported by Dunn & Dunn, page 12, and Laurence R. Guthrie, page 122. The instrument’s location, book, and page still need verification.
• 15 November 1793 — Joseph to son Stephen: Ann’s abstract describes a quitclaim of one full Ohio Company share, for parental affection. Joseph is of Washington, Litchfield County, Connecticut; Stephen is of Belpray/Belpre in the Western Territory.
• 15 November 1793 — Joseph to son Truman: a corresponding quitclaim of one full share, with Truman described as of Washington. The father-and-son wording is an especially valuable target for verification in the original deeds.

Washington County, Ohio, deed indexes:
Grantors, letter G — FHL film 007903027, image 387 of 565
Grantees, letter G — FHL film 007903030, image 229 of 517

The index links are retained as source pointers. The original deeds were not available for this review; the 1792 purchase and 1793 gifts above remain Ann’s research abstracts, not newly verified transcriptions.

Land patents dated 1 June 1796 and 28 April 1802 are attached to the younger Joseph in the tree. Compare the actual grantee, tract, residence, and later conveyances before deciding whether either belongs to the father or son.

Joseph, 1790, Washington, Litchfield County, Connecticut: the supplied original schedule, page 263, confirms five free white males sixteen and over, one under sixteen, and six free white females: twelve people. Only Joseph is named. The page is alphabetically arranged, so adjacent names should not be treated as evidence of neighboring farms.

The separate 1790 Ohio county-resident index has no original page number and must not be described as a verified federal household. Its identity and underlying source need investigation alongside the Connecticut census and the Connecticut residences in the 1792–1793 deeds. Joseph’s 1800 Belpre entry is explicitly a tax-list index.

Truman: Ann’s research sequence includes Ohio indexes for 1790, 1803, 1809, and 1810, an 1800 Belpre tax entry, and later census records. The following tallies preserve her abstracts; the original schedules remain the next comparison.

• 1810: one male 45 or older; one female 26–44; one male and one female 16–25; one male 10–15; five males under ten. The underlying Ohio source needs confirmation before treating the database label as a surviving federal schedule.
• 1820: one male and one female 45 or older; one female 26–44; three males and one female 16–25; three males 10–15; one male under ten. The separately counted two males 16–18 are included within the 16–25 group. Seven people are reported in agriculture.
• 1830: indexed as “Gruman Guthrie”; one male 60–69, one female 50–59, five males 20–29, and one male and one female 15–19.
• 1840: one male 70–79, one female 60–69, one male 30–39, one female 20–29, and one male 10–14; one person in agriculture and one in manufacture or trade.

Stephen: the tree cites Ohio Company proceedings, an 1803 territorial population source, and Belpre history. Its 1800 federal-census attachment and 1810 tally, recorded as 31110–01000–00, require examination of the underlying source. His 1820 location is Belpre.

Elias: the working sequence places him in Washington, Connecticut, in 1800 and New Milford in 1810. Joseph (1773): Orange, Meigs County, in 1830; Bedford in 1840; Orange in 1850, age seventy-seven. These sequences should be correlated with deeds, marriages, and the children’s birthplaces.

The full name is an authentic historical lead. Seymour Guthrie’s 1889 family history, page 23, entry 34, names George Nelson Guthrie during his lifetime. It identifies him as Stephen and Sally’s son, born 18 May 1811 at Newbury, Ohio, and married to Sarah Ann McFarland, 19 September 1839, at Concord, New Hampshire. This establishes that the name was not merely added by a modern online tree.

Ann is investigating whether this recurrence might help identify the historical family of the earlier George Nelson Guthrie associated with GFG14. That family’s traditions describe Revolutionary brothers, including two said to have held high rank, while George moved west with women and children. No documentary connection between the two Georges has yet been established.

The younger George cannot be the man in the Revolutionary-era story, but a namesake relationship remains worth investigating. The different Y-DNA grouping must be retained; a shared name cannot establish a paternal connection or explain a genetic mismatch. The unverified middle name “George” attached to Joseph (1773) supplies no independent corroboration.

Next source trails: Stephen H. Guthrie’s A Sketch of Stephen Guthrie, Senior, and His Children (1891), especially pages 26–28; Sarah McFarland Guthrie’s autobiography; family correspondence; and the Wilbur Siebert correspondence cited in the George Guthrie House application. The Ohio Genealogical Society’s Clan Guthrie finding aid lists the 1891 sketch in box 27, file 796. These underlying items have not all been examined.

The house application gives George’s death as 2 June 1891, differing from the legacy page’s 1890. An obituary, death record, or inscription should settle that discrepancy.

• Harriet Nancy Dunn and Eveline Guthrie Dunn, Records of the Guthrie Family (1898), especially page 12 and the descendant sections. Reports Joseph’s military service, the Titus forge transaction, the Harrand deed, and his death.
• Laurence R. Guthrie, American Guthrie and Allied Families (1933), pages 121–123 and subsequent descendant entries. Preserves the wives’ identities, children, migration accounts, and explicit concerns about Abigail II’s dates.
• Seymour Guthrie, A Brief History of a Branch of the Guthrie Family (1889), particularly page 8 for Joseph’s family and page 23 for George Nelson. Later works may repeat this account; agreement between them is not necessarily independent evidence.
• Marietta College, Ohio Company of Associates records — shareholder and allotment books, minutes, plats, and related material. This is the appropriate company for the family’s Ohio land trail. Individual Guthrie entries still need examination.
• Fort William Henry Museum history — context for the 1757 alarm; not a substitute for Joseph’s own service record.
• Joseph Guthrie, Find a Grave memorial 134091987 — Glazer Cemetery identification and a burial research lead.
• Hannah Guthrie, Find a Grave memorial 35482062 — Newbury Community Cemetery, Little Hocking, Washington County, Ohio. The supplied view had no grave photograph; its 1735–1797 dates are not independently verified inscription readings.

Place corrections: Joseph’s 1808 death is placed by the family histories in Troy Township, Athens County, rather than Ashland County. Hannah’s Newbury association belongs with the Washington County settlement and Little Hocking burial trail; the tree’s Clermont County selection is unsupported by the reviewed evidence.

Same-name caution: Joseph Guthrie of Sherburne, New York, husband of Phoebe Abbott and testator in 1843, was the younger Joseph born in 1761, son of James Guthrie and Abigail Betts. His 1845 probate belongs to that family, not to Joseph (1733–1808).

For the broader Branch F identity problems, see Mistaken Identities: Connecticut & Massachusetts. The proposed immigrant generation and the three-brothers ironworking tradition remain distinct from this documented Connecticut family.