Guthrie of Craigie

Guthrie of Craigie — Genealogy and History, Angus, Scotland

Meet the Guthries of Craigie

The Guthries of Craigie became one of the better-documented later Guthrie families of Angus. Their landed identity centered on Craigie, immediately east of Dundee, but their family story begins well before the Guthries became established proprietors there.

Working backward from the Craigie generations leads through a family of Dundee merchants and Church of Scotland ministers to St Andrews and, according to a corrected eighteenth-century pedigree, ultimately to the Guthries of Hiltoun. The surviving evidence is unusually rich in the later generations, but it does not support every part of the older ancestry equally.

The Craigie pedigree has changed. Earlier heraldic and published accounts attempted to connect this family rather directly with the ancient Guthries of Guthrie. In 1773, however, the Lyon Office—the Scottish heraldic authority responsible for recording and regulating arms—preserved a corrected pedigree for the Craigie family. That version traces the ancestry through William Guthrie of Hiltoun and Margaret Ogilvie, their son David Guthrie of Hiltoun and Christian Wemyss, and Charles Guthrie of St Andrews before reaching the later generations.

Source: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 September 1773, p. 499, no. 45.

Independent records become especially strong with the St Andrews and ministerial generations. Patrick Guthrie of St Andrews, a goldsmith who married Margaret Raitt, was followed by family members who served in the ministry at Kinnell, Arbirlot and Dundee. Patrick’s great-grandson James Guthrie entered the merchant trade, served his apprenticeship at Stockholm, returned to Dundee, and married Christian Scott.

James and Christian stand at an important meeting point between traditional genealogy and modern genetic evidence. Two separately documented direct-male descendant lines from this couple have produced matching Y-DNA results in Guthrie Family Group 1A. That evidence strongly supports the shared paternal lineage from James and Christian forward, while the earlier descent through St Andrews and Hiltoun must still be judged from historical records and pedigree evidence.

Craigie itself entered the family’s history gradually rather than through a single simple transfer. An early 1704 reference to a “James Guthrie of Craigie” remains unresolved because it does not fit securely with the later family chronology. The documentary picture is firmer by 1729, when surviving sasine evidence places the family in relation to Craigie. Additional acquisitions and a succession of family members styled “of Craigie” then establish the estate as a long-standing family association.

How this profile is reconstructed Rather than beginning with a numbered pedigree and trying to make the records fit it, this profile works backward and forward from the surviving evidence. Contemporary records establish many of the later relationships directly; the corrected Lyon Office pedigree supplies important earlier connections; and Y-DNA provides an independent test of the documented paternal line from James Guthrie and Christian Scott.

Family at a Glance

The Craigie ancestry can now be divided into two evidentiary stages. The earliest connections are preserved by the corrected Lyon Office pedigree of 1773. Beginning with the St Andrews and ministerial generations, independent records increasingly confirm the descent. The family then reaches a second important evidence point with James Guthrie and Christian Scott, whose paternal line is also supported by Y-DNA.

Lyon pedigree connection Independently supported connection Y-DNA anchor
William Guthrie of Hiltoun Margaret Ogilvie Opens the Craigie ancestral descent in the corrected 1773 Lyon Office pedigree. CORRECTED LYON PEDIGREE
David Guthrie of Hiltoun Christian Wemyss Son and successor in the corrected pedigree. CORRECTED LYON PEDIGREE
Charles Guthrie of St Andrews Agnes Brown Represents the family’s transition from Hiltoun into the St Andrews ancestry. CORRECTED LYON PEDIGREE
Patrick Guthrie of St Andrews Margaret Raitt Goldsmith of St Andrews. Independent evidence identifies Patrick as father of the next generation, although the earlier Charles-to-Patrick connection still rests on the corrected pedigree. DOCUMENTARY TRAIL STRENGTHENS HERE
James Guthrie, Minister of Arbirlot Isabella Durie Born 1590. His clerical and family relationships are independently preserved in ministerial and related records. INDEPENDENTLY SUPPORTED
John Guthrie, Minister of Dundee Isobel Lamb Minister first at Arbirlot and later Dundee. His family is supported by clerical records and testamentary evidence. INDEPENDENTLY SUPPORTED
James Guthrie, Merchant in Stockholm & Dundee Christian Scott Merchant son of the Dundee minister. Parish records and the Houff monument document their family; two separate direct-male descendant lines provide the earliest current Y-DNA anchor for the Craigie lineage. DOCUMENTED + Y-DNA SUPPORTED
James Guthrie of Craigie Elizabeth Gardyne Son of James Guthrie and Christian Scott. His generation establishes the enduring landed Guthrie succession at Craigie. CRAIGIE SUCCESSION
What the dotted lines mean William, David, Charles and the connection to Patrick are retained because they form the ancestry recorded in the corrected Lyon Office pedigree. The relationships should not yet be presented as if each has been independently demonstrated by a surviving contemporary record.
Where the evidence becomes stronger From Patrick’s son James onward, clerical records, parish registers, testamentary evidence, monumental inscriptions and property records increasingly allow the family to be reconstructed independently of the eighteenth-century pedigree. Y-DNA adds a separate line of evidence at the generation of James Guthrie and Christian Scott.

Craigie in the Angus Landscape

Craigie was a place before it became a Guthrie territorial identity. Situated immediately east of Dundee, it lay within the same regional landscape in which the family’s ministers, merchants and later landholders lived and worked. By the eighteenth century, the name Craigie had become inseparable from this branch of the family.

Historic map showing Kragy, or Craigie, east of Dundee in Angus, Scotland
Craigie on the Pont map. The place appears as Kragy east of Dundee on Timothy Pont’s late-sixteenth-century mapping of Lower Angus and Perthshire. The spelling varies, but the location clearly predates the Guthrie family’s later association with the estate. Map source: Timothy Pont, Pont 26, Lower Angus and Perthshire east of the Tay, c.1583–1601 , National Library of Scotland.
Caution: More Than One Craigie This profile concerns Craigie immediately east of Dundee, historically in Forfarshire and now in Angus. Scottish records also refer to places called Craigie in Ayrshire. People, properties and documents associated with the Ayrshire locality should not be assumed to belong to this Guthrie family simply because the same territorial name appears. The place, people and surrounding relationships must be identified independently before records are combined.
A Dundee-Area Estate Craigie’s location helps explain why it fits so naturally into the later family story. The generations immediately preceding the landed Craigie line were closely connected with Dundee through the ministry, commerce and family relationships.
The Guthries Did Not Create Craigie Craigie had an established identity long before the Guthrie proprietors. The Kyd family also held interests there before the securely documented transfer of Craigie lands to James Guthrie. The family therefore took its territorial style from an existing place rather than giving the place its name. Sources: Timothy Pont, Pont 26, Lower Angus and Perthshire east of the Tay, c.1583–1601; NRS GD137/3167 , 1729.
An Ancestral Trail Beyond Craigie Although Craigie became the family’s later landed identity, the corrected Lyon Office pedigree traces the ancestry farther back through St Andrews and ultimately to the Guthries of Hiltoun. Craigie is therefore the destination of the early pedigree rather than its beginning. Source: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 September 1773, p. 499, no. 45.
From the Kyds to the Guthries

The transition of Craigie into Guthrie hands was more complicated than a single neat change of ownership. Members of the Kyd family held interests in Craigie before the Guthries, while surviving evidence points to a developing Guthrie association during the early eighteenth century.

One reported 1704 reference concerning the Muir of Craigie apparently names a James Guthrie of Craigie alongside James Kyd. Because the underlying record has not yet been examined, that reference remains a clue rather than a secure starting date for Guthrie ownership.

By the time the landed Craigie succession was firmly established, James Guthrie, son of the Dundee merchant James Guthrie and Christian Scott, had become the principal figure identified as James Guthrie of Craigie. His descendants continued the territorial style through succeeding generations.

The evidence is therefore best read as a developing property relationship rather than forcing Craigie into a single acquisition date. The 1729 Kyd disposal presently provides the clearest documentary anchor for the transfer of substantial Craigie lands into the Guthrie family.

A Key Craigie Property Record — 1729

National Records of Scotland reference GD137/3167 concerns the disposal of the price of the lands of Craigie sold by James and George Kyd to James Guthrie. This provides an important documentary anchor for the transfer of Craigie interests into the Guthrie family and will be incorporated more fully into the property timeline below.

Source: NRS GD137/3167 , Account of the Disposal of the price of the lands of Craigie sold by James and George Kyds to James Guthrie, 1729.
What Does “of Craigie” Mean? The phrase “of Craigie” is a Scottish territorial style identifying a person with the landed estate. On this profile, members of the family are described by the styles found in the records rather than assigned an artificial numbered sequence of “Barons of Craigie.” Craigie was associated with a Scottish barony, but that is not the same thing as a hereditary peerage title.

The Guthries of Craigie: Generation by Generation

The Craigie ancestry does not begin at Craigie. The corrected Lyon Office pedigree carries the family backward through Hiltoun and St Andrews before independent records begin to document the later ministers, merchants and landholders in increasing detail. Each generation below includes the wider family where the surviving evidence permits, not simply the child through whom the direct Craigie descent continued.

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William Guthrie of Hiltoun & Margaret Ogilvie Earliest generation in the corrected Craigie pedigree · probable place in the reconstructed Hiltoun line
CORRECTED LYON PEDIGREE PROBABLE HILTOUN PLACEMENT
What the 1773 Pedigree Tells Us The corrected Lyon Office pedigree begins the Craigie ancestry with William Guthrie of Hiltoun and Margaret Ogilvie. It names their son David Guthrie of Hiltoun, but does not identify William’s parents. Source: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, no. 45.
What the Hiltoun Records Add The wider Eassie & Hiltoun reconstruction places William naturally between a John Guthrie of Hiltoun documented in 1505/06 and the later David Guthrie of Hiltoun. William’s daughter Joneta was already married by 1518, helping to anchor his generation chronologically. Sources: RMS II, no. 2910 , 1505/06; Bamff Charters and Papers, no. 181, 1623; Registrum Episcopatus Brechinensis, II, p. 173 , 10 May 1518.
Working Placement in the Hiltoun Line
John Guthrie of Hiltoun documented 1505/06
William Guthrie of Hiltoun + Margaret Ogilvie · probable generational placement
David Guthrie of Hiltoun + Christian Wemyss · corrected Lyon pedigree
Family of William Guthrie & Margaret Ogilvie Joneta / Janet Guthrie — identified in the 1623 Ramsay pedigree as William’s legitimate daughter; married Alexander Ramsay by 1518.

David Guthrie of Hiltoun — identified in the corrected Lyon pedigree as William’s son; married Christian Wemyss and continued the Craigie ancestry. Sources: Bamff Charters and Papers, no. 181, 1623; Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, no. 45.
What Still Needs Proof The remaining gap is specific: no surviving record yet explicitly identifies William’s father. The working placement fits the reconstructed Hiltoun chronology, but the proposed John → William relationship still needs direct documentary confirmation.
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David Guthrie of Hiltoun & Christian Wemyss The Hiltoun generation shared by the Craigie and Eassie & Hiltoun reconstructions
CORRECTED LYON PEDIGREE HILTOUN FAMILY CONTEXT

The corrected pedigree identifies David Guthrie of Hiltoun as William’s son and names his wife as Christian Wemyss. This is also the generation at which the Craigie ancestry visibly intersects the wider Eassie & Hiltoun family reconstruction.

Children / Branches Associated with David’s Generation
  • Charles Guthrie of St Andrews — the corrected Lyon pedigree carries the Craigie ancestry through Charles and his wife Agnes Brown.
  • John Guthrie of Eassie & Hiltoun — a contemporary 1544 record explicitly identifies John as son and heir of the deceased David Guthrie of Eassie. The documentary David is strongly identified with the David of Hiltoun in the corrected pedigree, but the 1544 record does not name John’s mother. John’s placement beneath David and Christian therefore belongs to the combined reconstruction, not to a single document naming both parents.
Sources: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, no. 45; NRS GD16/3/42 , 3 Nov 1544.
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Charles Guthrie of St Andrews & Agnes Brown The Craigie ancestry moves from Hiltoun to St Andrews
CORRECTED LYON PEDIGREE MORE CONTEMPORARY EVIDENCE NEEDED

The next generation is Charles Guthrie of St Andrews and Agnes Brown. Their placement supplies the bridge between the territorial Hiltoun ancestry and the much better documented St Andrews family that follows.

Family of Charles Guthrie & Agnes Brown
  • Patrick Guthrie — goldsmith and burgess of St Andrews; married Margaret Raitt.

No additional children of Charles and Agnes are presently identified in the working reconstruction.

Source: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, no. 45.
Where the Evidence Still Depends on the Pedigree The relationships linking David of Hiltoun to Charles, and Charles to Patrick, remain substantially dependent upon the corrected Lyon Office pedigree. Contemporary St Andrews evidence for Charles and Agnes remains an important research target. Source basis: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, no. 45.
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Patrick Guthrie, Goldsmith of St Andrews & Margaret Raitt A prominent St Andrews household whose children entered the ministry and wider civic life
ST ANDREWS RECORDS CHARLES-TO-PATRICK LINK FROM PEDIGREE

Patrick Guthrie was a goldsmith and substantial burgess of St Andrews. Surviving records associate him with property on the south side of the Marketgate, and he served as a baillie of St Andrews in 1601–1602.

His wife was Margaret Raitt. Their children formed a notably clerical family whose members appear in St Andrews, Angus, Dundee and Moray.

Key evidence: University of St Andrews Collections, B65/23/386c , 1596; St Andrews burgh records, B65/8 and B65/23, for Patrick’s civic and property activity; and Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ / Guthrie Research Sketches for the Patrick–Margaret family context.

Family of Patrick Guthrie & Margaret Raitt
  • John Guthrie — later Bishop of Moray; married Nicholas Wood.
  • James Guthrie — minister first at Kinnell and later Arbirlot; married Isabella Durie; ancestor of the Craigie line.
  • William Guthrie — minister associated with St Andrews and later Elgin.
  • Charles Guthrie — another son represented in the family reconstruction.
  • Helen Guthrie — daughter of the family.
  • Unidentified Guthrie womanFasti states that David Wood, Minister of Edzell, married “a sister of John Guthrie of that ilk.” If that John is Bishop John Guthrie, she belongs within this sibling group; her given name and direct parentage remain unconfirmed.
Source basis: Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ and related ecclesiastical records independently support John and James as sons of Patrick and Margaret; the corrected Lyon pedigree and later family material supply the wider sibling reconstruction. For David Wood’s wife, see Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ, vol. V, p. 390.
John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray

Patrick’s son John Guthrie rose through the Church of Scotland and became Bishop of Moray. His prominence later affected the way the ancestry of the Craigie family was described.

John married Nicholas Wood. Their documented family included sons and daughters whose descendants belonged to the later Guthries of Guthrie. He therefore represents an important collateral branch of this same St Andrews generation, even though the direct Craigie descent continued through his brother James.

The pedigree associated with the 1772 matriculation of the Craigie arms attempted to connect a Hiltoun ancestor with Bishop John in a way that does not agree with the corrected descent preserved the following year. In the corrected reconstruction, Bishop John belongs here: as a son of Patrick and brother of James, not as a brother of an earlier Guthrie of Hiltoun.

Sources: John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray — Guthrie Research Sketch ; Court of the Lord Lyon, original Craigie matriculation, 25 Sep 1772, Coats of Arms, vol. 1, p. 496Z, Record no. 1133; corrected pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, no. 45.
The “Patrick Guthrie of Collistoun” Problem Some genealogical material styles Patrick “of Collistoun.” The source and meaning of that designation remain unresolved. It should not be used to attach Patrick to the independently documented Guthries of Colliston unless contemporary evidence establishes that connection. Source status: “of Collistoun” remains a later genealogical attribution whose earliest source has not yet been identified. It is not presently treated as evidence of descent from the documented Colliston family.
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James Guthrie, Minister of Kinnell & Arbirlot & Isabella Durie Born 17 September 1590 · the ministerial line leading toward Dundee
INDEPENDENTLY DOCUMENTED

James Guthrie was born on 17 September 1590 and entered the ministry, serving first at Kinnell and later at Arbirlot. He married Isabella Durie on 12 July 1614.

Ministerial evidence identifies James as a son of Patrick Guthrie, goldsmith of St Andrews. His brother was the future John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray.

Key evidence: Craigie source collection ; Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ for James’s birth, ministry, parentage and marriage; Dundee Archives BRMS 3/DC/46 for the later diary of Rev. James Guthrie of Arbirlot.

Family of James Guthrie & Isabella Durie
  • John Guthrie — minister of Arbirlot and later Dundee; married Isobel Lamb; continued the direct Craigie ancestry.
  • Jane Guthrie — married James Phillip, Laird of Almericloss.
  • James Guthrie — married Margaret Raitt of Conosyth.
  • Unidentified son — described in later genealogical material as the “laird of Aldbar.” No contemporary record confirming his identity or possession of Aldbar has yet been located.
Source basis: ministerial and parish evidence securely carries the direct line through John. Jane, the younger James, and the reported Aldbar son are retained from later family/genealogical material pending individual primary-source confirmation.
The Reported “Laird of Aldbar” Aldbar was a real neighboring Angus parish and locality, but the surviving NRS material located so far does not identify a Guthrie son of this family as its laird. The designation is therefore preserved as a reported genealogical claim, not treated as an established territorial title. Source status: later genealogical material only; no contemporary record so far located establishes a son of this household as laird of Aldbar.
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John Guthrie, Minister of Arbirlot & Dundee & Isobel Lamb 1631–1686 · the family moves from the ministry into international commerce
FASTI + PARISH + TESTAMENTARY EVIDENCE

John Guthrie, born 13 August 1631, graduated M.A. from St Andrews in 1650. He became minister of Arbirlot and was translated to Dundee’s South Church in 1667.

He married Isobel Lamb. Their family can be followed through parish and ministerial records, while John’s probate material provides additional evidence after his death in 1686.

Key evidence: Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ and Dundee parish records for John’s education, ministry and family; NRS CC3/3/7, recorded 1688, for his testamentary estate.

Family of John Guthrie & Isobel Lamb
  • John Guthrie of Westhall — born 5 Apr 1664; merchant in Stockholm; testament dative and inventory recorded 31 Jan 1741 in the Brechin Commissary Court. Published accounts agree that Isobel was an eldest daughter and co-heiress, but disagree over the name of the second co-heiress: Margaret in the Macfarlane/Warden tradition and Ann in Nisbet. That discrepancy should remain open pending primary confirmation.
  • Isobel Guthrie — baptized 27 Sep 1665.
  • Margaret Guthrie — the current parish-register reconstruction gives a baptism on 10 Oct 1667; married Gilbert Guthrie; known children William and Margaret Guthrie. Fasti instead prints a birth date of 4 Oct 1666, so the original Dundee entry should be rechecked before either date is treated as finally resolved.
  • James Guthrie — merchant in Stockholm and Dundee; married Christian Scott; continued the direct Craigie ancestry.
  • Nicholas Guthrie — born 18 Jun 1672; died 24 Jun 1674.
  • Robert Guthrie — born 22 Apr 1674.
  • Ann Guthrie — born 7 Sep 1677.
  • Alexander Guthrie — born 6 Jan 1678/79.
Sources: Dundee Old Parish Registers for the children’s baptisms; NRS CC3/3/7 for Rev. John’s estate; NRS CC3/3/10, 31 Jan 1741, for John Guthrie of Westhall. Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ, vol. V, pp. 319–320, is an important comparison source but differs from the present reconstruction on Margaret’s date and on the birth/death chronology assigned to James the merchant. Warden/Macfarlane and Nisbet also disagree over the second Westhall co-heiress’s given name.
The Stockholm Connection John’s sons John and James were both associated with Stockholm commerce. John became an extensive merchant and was later styled of Westhall. James followed a similar mercantile path before becoming the father of the generation from which the landed Craigie family emerged. Sources: NRS CC3/3/10 for John of Westhall; Dundee parish, monumental and family evidence summarized in the Craigie source collection for James’s Stockholm/Dundee career.
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James Guthrie, Merchant & Christian Scott Stockholm and Dundee · earliest current Craigie Y-DNA anchor
PARISH + MONUMENTAL EVIDENCE GFG1A Y-DNA ANCHOR

John’s son James Guthrie was sent away while young and served his apprenticeship in the merchant trade at Stockholm. His Houff monument records that after completing his apprenticeship he traded with many nations.

James married Christian Scott in Dundee in 1695. Dundee parish and family records identify one daughter and eight sons belonging to this couple. Most are documented through their own baptisms. Alexander’s own baptism has not yet been located, but his parentage is independently established in the baptismal records of his children.

Key evidence: Dundee Old Parish Registers, including marriage OPR 282/120/18 for James Guthrie and Christian Scott, 1695; Dundee baptismal registers for their children; and the Guthrie monument in the Howff of Dundee for James’s mercantile career, age at death and surviving family.

Family of James Guthrie & Christian Scott
  • Isobell Guthrie — born 2 Dec 1695; baptized 30 Dec 1695. No marriage has yet been identified. Her apparent absence from the family surviving James in 1710 may indicate an earlier death, but that remains an inference.
  • John Guthrie — merchant; baptized 14 Jan 1697; married Ann Dempster on 28 May 1722. Their large Dundee family included James, Christian, George, Margaret, Bell/Isobel, another James, Elizabeth, Jean and John.
  • James Guthrie — baptized 30 Mar 1698; married Elizabeth Gardyne; established the continuing landed Craigie line.
  • Robert Guthrie — merchant; born 4 Jun 1699 and baptized 8 Jun; married Jean Fowler / Fuller in 1726. Their recorded children include Christian, James, Clara, Jean, Ann and Elizabeth.
  • Thomas Guthrie — born 8 Oct 1700; baptized 10 Oct; apparently died unmarried.
  • William Guthrie — born Apr 1702; baptized 22 Apr; apparently died unmarried.
  • Patrick Guthrie — born and baptized 5 Oct 1704; married Agnes Foord in 1726. Their children included Jannet, Patrick, Barbara, Anna and James. This line provides the second documented direct-male GFG1A Y-DNA descent from James and Christian.
  • Alexander Guthrie — merchant; married Elizabeth Moray in 1738. Although Alexander’s own baptism has not yet been located, the baptismal records of his children explicitly identify James Guthrie, merchant, as their grandfather, Christian Scott as their grandmother, and James Guthrie of Craigie as their uncle. Those contemporary family relationships directly establish Alexander as a son of James Guthrie and Christian Scott and brother of James Guthrie of Craigie. His currently assigned birth date of 20 Mar 1706 remains less certain than his parentage.
  • Hendrie Guthrie — born 29 Apr 1707; apparently died unmarried.
Sources: Dundee Old Parish Registers for the marriage and baptisms; contemporary baptismal entries of Alexander Guthrie and Elizabeth Moray’s children for Alexander’s parentage; Howff monumental inscription for the family surviving James in 1710.
Alexander’s Parentage Without His Baptism The absence of Alexander’s own baptism does not leave his place in the family uncertain. His children’s baptismal records repeatedly preserve the relationships from the next generation: their grandfather was James Guthrie, merchant, their grandmother was Christian Scott, and their uncle was James Guthrie of Craigie. The unresolved point is therefore Alexander’s exact birth or baptismal date, not his parentage. Source: Dundee Old Parish Register baptismal entries for the children of Alexander Guthrie and Elizabeth Moray, which repeatedly name the children’s grandfather, grandmother and uncle.

The Houff monument states that James died in April 1710, aged 46, leaving Christian and seven sons surviving. Since eight sons are now represented in the reconstructed family, the inscription indicates that one of those sons had apparently died before James, although it does not identify which one.

James’s Birth Date A 1669 baptism has sometimes been attached to James, but the monument’s statement that he died aged 46 points instead to a birth about 1663–64. The 1669 baptism should remain unresolved until the identity can be demonstrated. Source: Guthrie monument in the Howff of Dundee — James died in April 1710 aged 46. The competing 1669 baptism remains an unresolved identity candidate.
Two Independent Y-DNA Descents The paternal line from this couple has now been independently demonstrated through direct-male descendants of James Guthrie, later of Craigie, and his brother Patrick Guthrie. Both lines belong to Guthrie Family Group 1A. This makes James and Christian the earliest generation in the present Craigie reconstruction supported by two separate descendant Y-DNA paths. Source: Guthrie DNA Project — GFG1A, descendants of James Guthrie & Christian Scott .
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James Guthrie of Craigie & Elizabeth Gardyne 1698–1788 · the landed Craigie identity becomes firmly established
PARISH + PROPERTY + HERALDIC EVIDENCE

James Guthrie, son of the merchant James and Christian Scott, was baptized in Dundee on 30 March 1698. He became the central figure in the establishment of the landed Guthrie family at Craigie.

He married Elizabeth Gardyne in Dundee in 1733. A marriage contract dated 13 December 1733 also survives in the Gardyne family material.

Family of James Guthrie & Elizabeth Gardyne
  • Ann Guthrie — baptized 21 Oct 1734.
  • Christian Guthrie — baptized 1 Mar 1736.
  • Jean Guthrie — recorded among the children of the family.
  • Emelia Guthrie — baptized 25 Jan 1739.
  • James Guthrie — born 7 May 1740, baptized 15 May; married Amelia Murray and succeeded in the Craigie line.
  • David Guthrie — baptized 18 Aug 1742.
  • Lilias Guthrie — baptized 17 Jun 1744.
Sources: Dundee Old Parish Registers for the marriage and baptisms; Gardyne family material, marriage contract dated 13 Dec 1733.
Craigie and the Family Identity The 1729 record GD137/3167 documents lands of Craigie sold by James and George Kyd to James Guthrie. Later records continue to identify him as James Guthrie of Craigie. Sources: NRS GD137/3167 , 1729; NRS GD137/1670 , 1740; and NRS SIG1/72/14, 6 Aug 1764, signature of the lands of Craigie granted to James Guthrie.

This was also the generation in which the family’s ancestry came under formal heraldic examination. An initial pedigree accompanied the 1772 matriculation of James’s arms; the following year the Lyon Office preserved the corrected pedigree dated 29 September 1773.

Heraldic sources: 25 Sep 1772 — Coats of Arms, vol. 1, p. 496Z, Record no. 1133, digital image at Scotland’s People; 29 Sep 1773 — corrected Lyon Office pedigree, p. 499, no. 45.

James died on 9 March 1788 and was buried at Dundee on 14 March.

Source: Dundee burial/parish record, 14 Mar 1788; death date 9 Mar 1788 as used in the Craigie family source reconstruction.

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James Guthrie of Craigie & Amelia Murray 1740–1830 · a large Dundee and Craigie family
PARISH + DISPOSITION + SHERIFF COURT EVIDENCE

James Guthrie was born 7 May 1740 and baptized in Dundee on 15 May. He married Amelia Murray, daughter of the deceased Alexander Murray, merchant in Dundee, on 26 October 1767.

Family of James Guthrie & Amelia Murray
  • James Guthrie — baptized 13 Aug 1768; later served in the Royal Navy.
  • Alexander Murray Guthrie — baptized 10 Dec 1769; named by his father as his eldest son; married Margaret Makgill.
  • Lilias Guthrie — baptized 9 Oct 1772.
  • John Guthrie — baptized 2 Mar 1774; died young.
  • Elizabeth Guthrie — baptized 28 Jun 1775.
  • George Dempster Guthrie — baptized 22 Aug 1777; married Barbara Dunbar; later lived in India and became ancestor of one modern direct-male Craigie descent.
  • Amelia Guthrie — baptized 21 Feb 1780.
  • Henry Guthrie — baptized 13 Oct 1785; later associated with East India Company service.
  • David Charles Guthrie — baptized 16 Jul 1788.
  • John Guthrie — born 29 Dec 1790; baptized 3 Feb 1791; died young.
  • Rose Mary Guthrie — baptized 1 Aug 1793.
Sources: Dundee Old Parish Registers for James and Amelia’s marriage and the children’s baptisms; family disposition dated 26 May 1817 for the designation of Alexander Murray Guthrie as eldest son.

James’s disposition of 26 May 1817 expressly names Alexander Murray Guthrie as “my eldest son” and refers to his spouse Amelia Murray or Guthrie. The document also provides for two unmarried daughters.

Source: disposition of James Guthrie of Craigie, 26 May 1817. The exact catalogue reference should be retained here when the original item is rechecked; no reference is invented in this audit.

Amelia died in 1824. James died on 14 January 1830, and his estate was subsequently recorded in the Dundee Sheriff Court proceedings of 1832.

Source: NRS SC45/31/1, Dundee Sheriff Court estate proceedings, 1832.

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Alexander Murray Guthrie & Margaret Makgill Eldest-son generation immediately preceding the more complicated Craigie estate succession
NAMED AS ELDEST SON LATER SUCCESSION TREATED SEPARATELY

Alexander Murray Guthrie, baptized in Dundee on 10 December 1769, is expressly named in his father’s 1817 disposition as his eldest son. He married Margaret Makgill.

Sources: Dundee Old Parish Register, baptism 10 Dec 1769; disposition of James Guthrie of Craigie, 26 May 1817. NRS CS40/6/25, 23 Dec 1811, independently styles Alexander Murray Guthrie “younger of Craigie.”

The later estate proceedings refer to a Trust Disposition and Settlement by Alexander dated 26 August 1829. By the 1832 Dundee Sheriff Court proceedings relating to his father’s estate, Alexander was himself deceased and his trustees were involved.

Source basis: NRS SC45/31/1, Dundee Sheriff Court estate proceedings for James Guthrie of Craigie, 1832. These later proceedings underpin the reconstructed reference to Alexander Murray Guthrie’s Trust Disposition and Settlement dated 26 Aug 1829. The original 1829 instrument and any separate archival reference have not yet been identified.

The Next Craigie Heir Their son James Guthrie became the next Guthrie proprietor associated with Craigie. He died unmarried, after which the estate succession moved through collateral relatives rather than continuing as a simple father-to-son descent. Source basis: later Craigie estate and succession records; the detailed collateral property sequence is treated in the dedicated Craigie Succession section.

From this point forward, the genealogy and the ownership history no longer follow exactly the same path. The later proprietors are therefore treated more clearly in the dedicated Craigie Succession section.

One Family, Several Paths The direct descent to Craigie runs through James, minister of Kinnell and Arbirlot, his son John in Dundee, and the merchant James Guthrie who married Christian Scott. But each generation also produced collateral families of ministers, merchants and landholders. Among them was John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray, whose prominence later contributed to the confused ancestry recorded in 1772. The next section examines that pedigree and the correction preserved by the Lyon Office in 1773.

The 1772–1773 Lyon Office Pedigree

The Craigie ancestry preserved by the Lyon Office is especially valuable because it records not just a pedigree, but a pedigree correction. The descent recorded with James Guthrie of Craigie’s 1772 matriculation of arms was corrected the following year, leaving two versions that show exactly where the earlier account had compressed and misplaced generations.

Why the Lyon Office Record Matters The Court of the Lord Lyon is Scotland’s heraldic authority. Pedigrees supplied in connection with the right to bear arms were intended to demonstrate ancestry, but they still depended upon the genealogical information and evidence available at the time. The Craigie papers are unusually instructive because the earlier version was subsequently corrected rather than simply repeated.
1772 — The Initial Armorial Pedigree

The pedigree associated with the 1772 matriculation attempted to connect James Guthrie of Craigie with the older Guthrie family through a Guthrie of Hiltoun and John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray.

The surviving wording describes James of Craigie as descended from a Guthrie of Hiltoun who was presented as a brother of John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray, with the ancestry then carried back toward the ancient family of Guthrie.

The problem is chronological and genealogical: Bishop John does not belong in that early Hiltoun generation.

Source: James Guthrie of Craigie, matriculation of arms, 25 Sep 1772, Coats of Arms, Vol. 1, p. 496Z, Record No. 1133; digital image at Scotland’s People.
29 September 1773 — The Corrected Pedigree

The following year the Lyon Office recorded that an error had been discovered in the descent and supplied a substantially fuller pedigree. The corrected account carries the Hiltoun ancestry back through William Guthrie of Hiltoun and Margaret Ogilvie, then through David and the St Andrews generations before reaching the later ministerial and Dundee merchant family.

Crucially, this version places John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray in the correct family generation: as a son of Patrick Guthrie and Margaret Raitt and brother of James Guthrie, minister of Kinnell and Arbirlot.

Source: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45.
The Craigie Ancestry Preserved in the Corrected 1773 Pedigree
William Guthrie of Hiltoun Margaret Ogilvie
David Guthrie of Hiltoun Christian Wemyss
Charles Guthrie of St Andrews Agnes Brown
Patrick Guthrie, Goldsmith of St Andrews Margaret Raitt
James Guthrie, Minister of Kinnell & Arbirlot Isabella Durie
John Guthrie, Minister of Arbirlot & Dundee Isobel Lamb
James Guthrie, Merchant in Stockholm & Dundee Christian Scott
James Guthrie of Craigie Elizabeth Gardyne
Source: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45.
The 1772 Problem Bishop John was effectively pulled backward into the much earlier Hiltoun ancestry. That placement compressed generations and created a direct-looking route toward the ancient Guthries of Guthrie that does not agree with the known chronology of the Bishop’s family. Source: 1772 matriculation, Coats of Arms, Vol. 1, p. 496Z, Record No. 1133.
Where Bishop John Actually Belongs Patrick Guthrie + Margaret Raitt
Their sons included:
John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray
James Guthrie, Minister of Kinnell & Arbirlot — John’s brother and the ancestor through whom the Craigie descent continued. Source: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45.
What the Corrected Pedigree Gives Us It preserves a coherent ancestral sequence from William Guthrie of Hiltoun through David, Charles and Patrick into generations that can increasingly be checked against independent ministerial, parish, testamentary, monumental and property records. Source basis: corrected Lyon Office pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45; later generations independently compared with parish, Fasti, testamentary, monumental and property evidence.
What It Does Not Prove by Itself A pedigree compiled in 1773 is not a contemporary record for people living two centuries earlier. The earliest links must still be tested independently. In particular, the pedigree does not identify William Guthrie of Hiltoun’s parents, and surviving evidence has not yet directly proved the proposed John of Hiltoun → William relationship. Source basis: corrected Lyon Office pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45; compared with the independently reconstructed Eassie & Hiltoun documentary sequence.
Why the Correction Matters to the Modern Reconstruction The corrected pedigree does not stand alone. Its later generations line up increasingly well with evidence found independently in Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ, Dundee and St Andrews parish records, testaments, the Houff monument, property records and family documents. The earlier Hiltoun generations are less fully documented, but the placement of William within the Hiltoun chronology also fits the reconstruction developed separately from the Eassie & Hiltoun records. The correction therefore provides an important historical guide while still leaving specific early relationships open to further documentary testing.

What the DNA Tells Us

Y-DNA gives the Craigie reconstruction a second kind of evidence: one that follows the direct paternal line rather than surviving paper records. For this family, the most important result is not a single tester. It is the agreement of two separately documented male-line descents from different sons of James Guthrie and Christian Scott.

The Earliest Current DNA Anchor James Guthrie, merchant, and Christian Scott are the earliest couple in the Craigie reconstruction from whom two independently documented direct-male descendant lines have produced matching Guthrie Family Group 1A Y-DNA results. Source: Guthrie DNA Project — GFG1A Branch A: James Guthrie & Christian Scott .
Two Independent Paternal Descents
James Guthrie, Merchant + Christian Scott Dundee · late 17th / early 18th century
Line 1 — Through James Guthrie of Craigie

Their son James Guthrie, baptized in Dundee in 1698, married Elizabeth Gardyne and became the principal Guthrie proprietor associated with Craigie.

A documented direct-male line from this son has produced a Y-DNA result assigned to Guthrie Family Group 1A.

GFG1A Y-DNA Source: Guthrie DNA Project, GFG1A Branch A — documented Y-DNA descent through James Guthrie of Craigie.
Line 2 — Through Patrick Guthrie

Their son Patrick Guthrie, born in 1704, married Agnes Foord and established a separate direct-male descendant line.

A documented paternal descendant of Patrick also belongs to Guthrie Family Group 1A.

GFG1A Y-DNA Source: Guthrie DNA Project, GFG1A Branch A — documented Y-DNA descent through Patrick Guthrie.
What the Y-DNA Supports
  • The documented male-line descendants of James Guthrie of Craigie and Patrick Guthrie share the same underlying Guthrie paternal lineage.
  • Once the two documentary pedigrees are established, the matching Y-DNA independently corroborates their placement within the same paternal family descending from James Guthrie, merchant, and Christian Scott.
  • The Craigie paternal line belongs to Guthrie Family Group 1A.
  • Because the two documented tested descents separate through sons James and Patrick, their shared paternal line reaches at least to their father, James Guthrie the merchant, assuming the documentary pedigrees are correct.
Source basis: Guthrie DNA Project, GFG1A Branch A; two independently documented direct-male descents through James Guthrie of Craigie and Patrick Guthrie.
What the Y-DNA Does Not Prove
  • It does not by itself prove that merchant James Guthrie was the son of Rev. John Guthrie. That relationship rests on documentary and monumental evidence.
  • It does not independently establish the earlier descent through James the minister, Patrick the goldsmith, Charles of St Andrews, David of Hiltoun or William of Hiltoun.
  • It cannot identify William Guthrie of Hiltoun’s father.
  • A Y-DNA match demonstrates paternal biological relationship; the historical names, marriages and generation-by-generation connections must still be established through genealogy.
Interpretive basis: Y-DNA establishes paternal biological relatedness; the named historical generations and relationships still depend on documentary genealogy.
Where DNA Meets the Paper Trail The documentary ancestry and the genetic evidence overlap most securely at the family of James Guthrie and Christian Scott. Below that point, parish registers and other records create two separate male-line genealogies that converge genetically in GFG1A. Above that point, the ancestry continues through documentary evidence rather than through an independently tested branching line.
William of Hiltoun David Charles Patrick James, Minister John, Minister James + Christian Two Tested Son-Lines
Source basis: documentary Craigie pedigree and parish reconstruction through James Guthrie & Christian Scott, compared with the two GFG1A direct-male test lines.
Guthrie Family Group 1A GFG1A contains more than the descendants who remained associated with Craigie. Other documented Guthrie families, including lines established in colonial America, also fall within this genetic group. Those matches demonstrate a broader shared paternal ancestry, but determining where those lines join the Scottish Craigie ancestry is a separate genealogical question and should not be solved by DNA similarity alone. Source: Guthrie DNA Project — Guthrie Family Group 1A, Branch A .

The Craigie Succession

Craigie had a history before the Guthries, and ownership of the estate did not always pass along the same line followed by the family pedigree. Keeping genealogy, estate ownership and the later rights of the feudal barony distinct makes the succession much easier to understand.

A Landed Style, Not a Numbered Family Pedigree Men described historically as “of Craigie” were being identified by their association with the estate. This profile therefore uses forms such as James Guthrie of Craigie rather than retroactively turning the Guthrie genealogy into a numbered sequence of hereditary peerage-style titles.
The Transfer Was Not a Single Clean Event The surviving evidence suggests a developing Guthrie interest at Craigie before the final Kyd disposal was completed. A record from 1729 clearly documents the price of lands sold by the Kyds to James Guthrie. A reported 1704 reference also associates a James Guthrie with Craigie, but the underlying record has not yet been examined. The safest interpretation is therefore a gradual consolidation of property rights rather than a single acquisition date. Key evidence: NRS GD137/3167 , 1729; reported 1704 Muir of Craigie reference — original still to be checked.
From the Kyds to the Guthries
1655–1675 Patrick Kyd and Margaret Wedderburn acquired documented rights in Craigie, including a third of the lands and later additional Craigie interests.
15 May 1675 Patrick resigned parts of Craigie in favour of his brother William Kyd, subject to Patrick’s continuing liferent.
1677 James Kyd, son of William Kyd, was served heir to his father. Patrick was still living in 1676 and died before November 1685, so the Kyd rights overlapped rather than changing hands on a single clean date.
1704 · Reported A record concerning the Muir of Craigie reportedly names a James Guthrie of Craigie alongside James Kyd. The underlying record still needs direct examination.
1729 · NRS GD137/3167 An account records the disposal of the price of the lands of Craigie sold by James and George Kyd to James Guthrie.
Sources: The Wedderburn Book, Kyd of Craigie material, including Craigie sasines and the 1675 resignation/settlement; NRS GD137/3167 , 1729.
1655–1675 Patrick Kyd & Margaret Wedderburn

The Kyd family’s Craigie tenure was already well established by Patrick’s marriage generation. In 1655 Margaret Wedderburn and Patrick were infeft in a third of Craigie, and later records show additional Craigie interests held by Patrick.

Sources: The Wedderburn Book, Kyd of Craigie pedigree and sasine extracts; 1655 sasines settling Craigie rights on Patrick Kyd and Margaret Wedderburn.
1675–1677 William Kyd → James Kyd

In 1675 Patrick resigned portions of Craigie to his brother William Kyd, subject to Patrick’s liferent and other conditions. William’s son James Kyd was then served heir to his father in 1677. Patrick himself was still alive in 1676 and died before November 1685, showing why the Kyd transition should not be reduced to a simple proprietor-to-proprietor date range.

Source: The Wedderburn Book, pp. 212–213 and associated Kyd of Craigie references; 1675 resignation/charter and 1677 service of heir.
c.1728/29–1788 James Guthrie of Craigie

Son of James Guthrie, merchant, and Christian Scott; married Elizabeth Gardyne. The 1729 Kyd disposal provides the clearest surviving documentary marker for the transfer of Craigie lands into this Guthrie generation.

He continued to appear as James Guthrie of Craigie in later property and heraldic material.

Sources: NRS GD137/3167 , 1729; NRS GD137/1670 , 1740; Lyon Office matriculation/correction, 1772–1773.
1788–1830 James Guthrie of Craigie

Son of James Guthrie and Elizabeth Gardyne; married Amelia Murray. He succeeded his father and remained associated with Craigie until his death on 14 January 1830.

Sources: View of the Political State of Scotland, 1788, naming James Guthrie of Craigie; family disposition, 26 May 1817; NRS SC45/31/1, Dundee Sheriff Court estate proceedings, 1832.
1830–1866 James Guthrie of Craigie

James Guthrie, only son of Alexander Murray Guthrie and Margaret Makgill, became the next proprietor after the death of his grandfather in 1830. Later succession accounts record services of heir to his grandfather in 1846 and to his father in 1849. He died unmarried on 6 December 1866.

Sources: Angus and Mearns Directory, 1846, naming James Guthrie of Craigie; later Craigie succession accounts report services of heir dated 8 Apr 1846 and 11 Jan 1849. The original retour references should still be recovered.
1866–1867 George Makgill

On the death of the unmarried James Guthrie, later succession accounts place Craigie with his Makgill kinsman George Makgill of Kemback. This was a collateral property succession rather than continuation through a son.

Source basis: later Craigie estate and genealogical accounts. The original deed or settlement by which George Makgill received Craigie has not yet been identified in this audit.
1867–1873 James Alexander Guthrie

James Alexander Guthrie, son of David Charles Guthrie and Jane Campbell Hunter, acquired Craigie from George Makgill in 1867. This was therefore a purchase within the wider kin network, not an automatic father-to-son succession.

Source basis: later Craigie estate accounts record the 1867 purchase from George Makgill; James Alexander had previously been served heir to his father in two farms of the lands of Craigie on 22 Jan 1860. Exact primary references for the 1867 conveyance remain to be recovered.
1873–1918 David Charles Guthrie

Eldest son of James Alexander Guthrie and Elinor Stirling, David Charles Guthrie succeeded after his father’s death on 17 January 1873 and held the later Craigie estate line until his own death in 1918.

Sources: later family and landed-gentry accounts; parliamentary records independently document David Charles Guthrie (1861–1918).
1918–1932 James Alexander Guthrie

James Alexander Guthrie, son of David Charles Guthrie, continued the later Guthrie proprietorial succession associated with Craigie until 1932.

Source basis: later landed-family and Craigie succession accounts.
1932–2003 David Charles Guthrie

The final named Guthrie holder included in this historical succession. He died in November 2003. Later barony accounts state that the separate baronial dignity remained within the Guthrie Family Estate until 2011.

Source basis: later Craigie/barony succession accounts for the 1932–2003 tenure and post-2003 estate holding.
2003–2011 Guthrie Family Estate

After David Charles Guthrie’s death, later barony records state that the separate dignity of the Barony of Craigie remained within the Guthrie Family Estate rather than immediately passing outside the family.

Source basis: later barony succession records. Under section 63 of the Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000 , the dignity of baron ceased to attach to the land and became transferable incorporeal heritable property.
February 2011 Barony Assigned Outside the Guthrie Family

Later barony records report that in February 2011 the separate dignity of the Barony of Craigie was transferred by assignation from the Guthrie Family Estate to a holder outside the Guthrie family.

The transfer ended the Guthrie estate’s recorded holding of the baronial dignity. It did not, of course, affect the continuing genealogy of the Guthrie family.

Source basis: later Craigie barony succession accounts for the February 2011 assignation; statutory context: Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000, s.63 .
Why the Property History Separates from the Pedigree A genealogy follows relationships between people. An estate succession follows whoever legally inherited, received or acquired property or associated rights. Those paths often overlap, but they are not the same. Craigie is a particularly good example: early Guthrie proprietors followed naturally through the family line, later ownership moved through collateral inheritance and purchase, and after the abolition of feudal tenure the baronial dignity could exist separately from the land itself.
About “Baron of Craigie” Earlier versions of this profile presented the Guthrie succession as a numbered series of “Barons of Craigie.” That presentation can make the family look like a hereditary peerage, which it was not. Scottish feudal baronies were territorial dignities associated historically with land and later capable of existing separately from ownership of the original estate.

For the historical Guthrie generations, this profile therefore uses the contemporary landed style “of Craigie”. Modern records may separately number holders of the Barony of Craigie, but that baronial numbering should not be imposed retroactively on the Guthrie family pedigree.

This should also not be confused with the much later peerage title Baron Guthrie of Craigiebank, which is entirely separate from the feudal Barony of Craigie. Legal source: Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000, s.63 . The Act preserved the dignity of baron but detached it from the land, making it transferable as incorporeal heritable property.
The Modern Succession This profile follows the historical succession through the 2011 assignation of the baronial rights but does not identify living family members or the present holder. The purpose here is to document the historical Guthrie association with Craigie rather than to reconstruct the private genealogy of living descendants.

Craigie House: The Family Seat

For generations, Craigie House served as the principal residence associated with the Guthrie estate. The original house no longer survives, but nineteenth- and twentieth-century records preserve enough detail to trace its later history and changing use.

1831 Craigie House and approximately 232 acres were offered for sale. Later evidence shows the property still associated with the Guthrie family, supporting the conclusion that the proposed sale did not then remove Craigie from Guthrie ownership. Source basis: Dennis F. Collins, Craigie estate and house study; later Ordnance Survey evidence confirms Craigie remained Guthrie property.
1857–1861 The Ordnance Survey Name Books separately described Craigie and Craigie House, both then belonging to James Guthrie Esq. Source: Ordnance Survey Name Books — Forfarshire (Angus), 1857–1861 .
1911 Craigie House, about an acre and a half of grounds, and associated property were sold. Source basis: Dennis F. Collins, later Craigie estate history. The original 1911 sale particulars remain a worthwhile record to recover.
1923–1949 The former family residence operated as a private nursing home. Sources: Dennis F. Collins, later Craigie House history; Dundee Corporation minutes, 1939–1940 , independently record Craigie House Private Nursing Home under the Nursing Homes Registration (Scotland) Act 1938.
1948–1949 Later accounts record a short period of use by Jute Industries Ltd. as workers’ accommodation, followed in 1949 by acquisition by Dundee Corporation for use as a retirement home. Source basis: Dennis F. Collins, later Craigie House and estate history.
1983 Later estate history records that Craigie House was demolished after becoming unsuitable for modern residential-care requirements. Residential care use continued on the site. Source basis: Dennis F. Collins, later Craigie House and estate history.
The Ordnance Survey Describes Craigie House

The Ordnance Survey Name Books for Forfarshire, 1857–1861 provide a particularly useful contemporary description because they distinguish the estate farmhouse from the principal residence.

Craigie was described as a one-storey slated farmhouse with substantial offices, an extensive farm and attached gardens, occupied by Francis Bachelor and belonging to James Guthrie Esq.
Craigie House was described as a “rather elegant two story slated building” with offices and garden attached. It was then in the possession of John Shiell but was likewise the property of James Guthrie Esq.

The distinction is useful: Craigie could refer to the working farm or estate lands, while Craigie House was the principal residence.

Source: Ordnance Survey Name Books — Forfarshire (Angus), 1857–1861 , Dundee volumes; Craigie and Craigie House entries.
When Was Craigie House Built? The precise construction date and builder have not yet been established. Older accounts attributed the house generally to the early Guthrie proprietors, but the surviving evidence presently supports only the broader conclusion that Craigie House had become the principal residence associated with the estate by the nineteenth century. Source basis: nineteenth-century descriptions and later estate histories. No contemporary building account, architectural plan or dated construction record has yet been identified.
The House and the Barony Were Not the Same Thing Craigie House was a physical residence. The lands of Craigie, the wider estate and the Barony of Craigie were separate legal and territorial concepts. The eventual sale and demolition of the house therefore did not by themselves determine the later succession of the baronial dignity. Legal context: the later separation of Scottish baronial dignity from land is discussed in the Craigie Succession section; see also the Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000, s.63 .
From Family Residence to Institutional Use The later history of Craigie House mirrors the changing landscape around Dundee. A residence once associated with the Guthrie estate became a nursing home, workers’ accommodation and retirement facility before the building was demolished in 1983. Although the house itself has gone, surviving descriptions and civic records help place the Craigie Guthries within the physical estate they occupied for generations.

What the Evidence Changes

The rebuilt Craigie profile does not simply add more names and dates. It changes the shape of the pedigree. Some relationships become stronger, some older assumptions disappear, and several questions become much more narrowly defined than they were before.

From a Straight Pedigree to an Evidence-Based Reconstruction The older Craigie story tended to present one continuous ancestral line running neatly backward toward the ancient Guthries of Guthrie. The surviving records reveal something more interesting: a documented ministerial and merchant family, a corrected eighteenth-century pedigree, an earlier Hiltoun ancestry that fits a separate body of contemporary evidence, and a small number of places where the generations still cannot be joined with complete certainty.
1. The Craigie Line Does Not Begin at Craigie
Older impression Craigie could appear to be a self-contained landed branch whose ancestry was simply carried backward from its first proprietor.
Evidence now shows The family was already established through Dundee merchants, Angus ministers and an earlier St Andrews family before the Craigie territorial identity became firmly established. The corrected pedigree carries the line still farther back to Hiltoun. Source basis: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45; later ministerial, Dundee parish and Craigie property records.
2. Bishop John Was in the Wrong Generation
1772 formulation An early Hiltoun ancestor was presented in relation to John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray, creating a compressed route toward the older Guthries of Guthrie.
Corrected reconstruction Bishop John belongs several generations later as a son of Patrick Guthrie and Margaret Raitt and brother of James Guthrie, minister of Kinnell and Arbirlot. James—not Bishop John—continues the direct Craigie ancestry. Sources: 1772 Craigie matriculation, Coats of Arms, Vol. 1, p. 496Z, Record No. 1133; corrected Lyon Office pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45; Bishop John Guthrie — Fasti Research Sketch .
3. William of Hiltoun Is the Earliest Named Ancestor in the Corrected Craigie Pedigree
Older reconstruction The Hiltoun ancestry was sometimes attached directly to Sir Alexander Guthrie and Margaret Lyon or otherwise folded into the main Guthries of Guthrie.
Evidence now shows The corrected 1773 Lyon pedigree begins its stated Hiltoun ancestry with William Guthrie of Hiltoun and Margaret Ogilvie and does not name William’s father. The wider Hiltoun records suggest William belongs after the John Guthrie documented there in 1505/06, but the precise John → William relationship remains unproved. Sources: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45; RMS II, No. 2910 , 19 Jan 1505/06.
4. The Hiltoun and Craigie Stories Now Fit Together
Older page structure Hiltoun, Eassie and Craigie could appear as separate branches with overlapping names but no clear reason for the overlap.
Evidence now shows David Guthrie of Hiltoun and Christian Wemyss sit at the reconstructed branch point. The corrected Lyon pedigree carries the Craigie ancestry through their son Charles of St Andrews. Separately, a contemporary 1544 record identifies John as son and heir of the deceased David Guthrie of Eassie; later evidence places John in the continuing Eassie & Hiltoun family and strongly associates him with Agnes Ochterlony. The 1544 record, however, does not name John’s mother. Sources: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45; NRS GD16/3/42 , 3 Nov 1544; later Eassie & Hiltoun evidence for John and Agnes Ochterlony.
5. The Ministerial and Merchant Generations Are Firmly Grounded
Pedigree alone The generations from St Andrews to Dundee could look like names carried forward only because a later family tree said they belonged together.
Independent records Fasti, parish registers, testaments and the Howff monument increasingly establish the later family independently of the Lyon pedigree. Fasti identifies James the minister as a son of Patrick Guthrie and brother of Bishop John; parish, ministerial and monumental evidence then strengthens the descent through Rev. John Guthrie to the merchant James Guthrie who married Christian Scott. This portion of the pedigree is therefore substantially stronger than the earlier Hiltoun-to-St Andrews bridge. Key evidence: Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ ; Dundee Old Parish Registers, including OPR 282/120/18 for James Guthrie and Christian Scott, 1695; Howff monumental inscription for James Guthrie the merchant.
6. Y-DNA Adds an Independent Paternal Check
Paper genealogy only The sons of James Guthrie and Christian Scott were connected through documentary genealogy alone.
Genetic evidence Direct-male descendants of two different documented sons— James Guthrie of Craigie and Patrick Guthrie—belong to the same Guthrie Family Group 1A Y-DNA lineage. Once the two paper pedigrees are established, the matching Y-DNA provides an independent paternal corroboration reaching back at least to their father, James Guthrie the merchant. Source: Guthrie DNA Project — GFG1A Branch A .
7. Craigie Was Acquired, Not Created by the Guthries
Simplified succession The estate could be presented as though a Guthrie became “Baron of Craigie” on one clear date and founded a new landed dynasty.
Property evidence Craigie existed long before the Guthrie proprietors. The Kyd family held documented Craigie interests before the Guthries, while a reported 1704 reference suggests an earlier Guthrie association that still requires direct examination. The 1729 disposal provides the clearest surviving documentary marker for the transfer of substantial Craigie lands to James Guthrie. Sources: The Wedderburn Book, Kyd of Craigie material; NRS GD137/3167 , 1729. The reported 1704 Muir of Craigie record remains unverified.
8. “Of Craigie” and “Baron of Craigie” Are Not Interchangeable
Older presentation Successive Guthrie proprietors were numbered as though they formed a peerage-style line of “1st Baron,” “2nd Baron,” and so forth.
Clearer terminology The historical family is best described by the documented landed style “of Craigie.” The Barony of Craigie was a territorial dignity and, after the abolition of feudal tenure, its surviving dignity could exist separately from the land. It should not be confused either with the family genealogy or with the modern peerage Baron Guthrie of Craigiebank. Legal context: Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000, s.63 .
Not Every Generation Rests on the Same Kind of Evidence
Retrospective Pedigree The earliest sequence— William → David → Charles → Patrick—is preserved principally through the corrected 1773 Lyon pedigree, with separate historical evidence providing context and partial support. Source: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45.
Contemporary Documentary Trail From Patrick’s son James onward, ministerial, parish, testamentary, monumental and property records increasingly establish relationships independently of the Lyon pedigree. Source basis: Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ; Dundee and Angus parish records; testamentary evidence; Howff monumental inscription; later Craigie property records.
Documentary + Y-DNA Anchor At James Guthrie + Christian Scott, two separately documented direct-male descendant lines add independent genetic support to the paternal reconstruction. Source: Guthrie DNA Project — GFG1A Branch A .
The Revised Craigie Story

The strongest reconstruction no longer requires a direct leap from Craigie to the principal Guthries of Guthrie. Instead, the ancestry follows a recognizable historical path: Hiltoun → St Andrews → Angus ministry → Dundee commerce → Craigie.

That path explains why territorial names change from generation to generation. The family did not remain fixed to one estate. Its members served as burgesses, goldsmiths, ministers and merchants before one eighteenth-century branch consolidated a landed identity at Craigie.

It also explains why the corrected Lyon pedigree is so important. Rather than forcing every prominent Guthrie into a single ancient line, it preserves a sequence that increasingly agrees with records created during the lives of the later generations.

What Has Not Changed Into “Fact” The reconstruction still has limits. We have not yet found a contemporary record naming William Guthrie of Hiltoun’s father. The direct evidence for Charles Guthrie of St Andrews and Agnes Brown remains thin. The reported “laird of Aldbar” son of James Guthrie and Isabella Durie is still unverified, and the source of the style “Patrick Guthrie of Collistoun” remains unresolved. Those are research questions—not gaps to be filled by assumption. Source status: the corrected Lyon pedigree does not name William’s father; Charles and Agnes remain principally pedigree-supported; no contemporary evidence has yet been located for the Aldbar claim or for Patrick’s reported “of Collistoun” style.

Family & Property Timeline

The history of the Craigie Guthries crosses several different settings: Hiltoun, St Andrews, the Angus ministry, Stockholm and Dundee commerce, and finally the lands of Craigie. This timeline brings the principal family, property and evidence milestones together in chronological order.

Family Property / Estate Pedigree / Evidence
Hiltoun Origins
1505/06 John Guthrie of Hiltoun

A John Guthrie of Hiltoun appears in contemporary records. He is an important chronological marker immediately before the generation in which the later pedigree places William, but no surviving record yet proves John as William’s father.

Source: RMS II, No. 2910 , 19 Jan 1505/06.
By 1518 Joneta Guthrie & Alexander Ramsay

A contemporary Brechin record dated 10 May 1518 identifies Alexander Ramsay and Joneta Guthre as spouses. The later 1623 Ramsay pedigree identifies Joneta as the legitimate daughter of William Guthrie of Hiltoun. The two sources strongly support the same couple but should not be treated as one document.

Sources: Bishopric of Brechin record, 10 May 1518; Bamff pedigree, No. 181, Mar 1623.
16th century David of Hiltoun → Charles of St Andrews

The corrected Lyon pedigree carries the Craigie ancestry through David Guthrie of Hiltoun + Christian Wemyss to their son Charles Guthrie of St Andrews + Agnes Brown. Separately, NRS GD16/3/42 identifies John Guthrie as son and heir of the deceased David Guthrie of Eassie in 1544. That contemporary record does not name John’s mother.

Sources: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45; NRS GD16/3/42 , 3 Nov 1544.
St Andrews & the Ministerial Family
Late 1500s Patrick Guthrie, Goldsmith of St Andrews

Patrick Guthrie, husband of Margaret Raitt, was a St Andrews burgess and goldsmith. The later family reconstruction includes among their sons John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray and James Guthrie, minister of Kinnell and Arbirlot.

Source basis: St Andrews burgh and family records; Fasti Research Sketch — John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray ; corrected Lyon pedigree, 29 Sep 1773.
17 Sep 1590 Birth of James Guthrie

Patrick’s son James Guthrie was born on 17 September 1590. He later entered the ministry, serving at Kinnell and Arbirlot, and became the direct ancestor of the Craigie line.

Source: Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ ; related ministerial records.
1601–1602 Patrick Serves as Baillie

St Andrews civic records show Patrick Guthrie serving as a baillie of the burgh, placing the goldsmith firmly within the town’s civic community.

Source: St Andrews burgh records, 1601–1602. Exact volume/page citation should be retained when the original burgh entry is next rechecked.
12 Jul 1614 James Guthrie Marries Isabella Durie

James Guthrie married Isabella Durie. Their documented family included John Guthrie, later minister of Arbirlot and Dundee, through whom the direct Craigie ancestry continued.

Source: Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ , with parish and ministerial records.
13 Aug 1631 Birth of Rev. John Guthrie

John Guthrie was born on 13 August 1631. He graduated M.A. from St Andrews in 1650, served as minister of Arbirlot, and was translated to Dundee’s South Church in 1667.

Sources: Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ ; later Dundee parish and testamentary evidence.
Dundee & Stockholm
3 Feb 1663 John Guthrie Marries Isobel Lamb

John Guthrie married Isobel Lamb. Their recorded family included sons John and James, both later associated with Stockholm commerce.

Source basis: Dundee parish records and Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ ; NRS CC3/3/7 for John’s later testamentary estate.
1667 Rev. John Guthrie at Dundee

John Guthrie was translated to a ministerial charge in Dundee in 1667, establishing the immediate family in the town where the next merchant generations are documented.

Source: Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ .
c.1663–64 Birth of James Guthrie, Merchant

James’s Howff monument states that he died in April 1710 aged 46, pointing to a birth about 1663–64. It also records his Stockholm apprenticeship and later international trade. A separate 1669 baptism sometimes assigned to him remains an unresolved identity candidate.

Source: Guthrie monument in the Howff of Dundee. The monument’s age-at-death conflicts with the later 1669 baptismal identification, which remains unresolved.
1695 James Guthrie Marries Christian Scott

James Guthrie married Christian Scott in Dundee. Parish and family records identify one known daughter and eight sons. Two documented son-lines—through James and Patrick—are represented in GFG1A Y-DNA testing.

Sources: Dundee OPR 282/120/18, marriage, 1695; Dundee baptismal registers; Guthrie DNA Project — GFG1A Branch A .
1704 An Early Guthrie Association with Craigie

A record concerning the Muir of Craigie is reported to name a James Guthrie of Craigie alongside James Kyd. The identity of this James remains unresolved. The merchant James is chronologically possible, but the underlying record must be examined before that identification is adopted.

Source status: reported 1704 Muir of Craigie record. The original instrument has not yet been examined.
Apr 1710 Death of James Guthrie, Merchant

The Howff monument records James’s death in April 1710, aged 46, and states that he left Christian and seven sons surviving. It also preserves his Stockholm apprenticeship and international mercantile career.

Source: Guthrie monument in the Howff of Dundee.
The Guthries of Craigie
1729 Kyd Lands Sold to James Guthrie

NRS GD137/3167 concerns the disposal of the price of lands of Craigie sold by James and George Kyd to James Guthrie. This remains the clearest primary documentary marker presently identified for substantial Craigie lands passing into Guthrie hands.

Source: NRS GD137/3167 , 1729.
1733 James Guthrie of Craigie Marries Elizabeth Gardyne

James Guthrie married Elizabeth Gardyne in Dundee in 1733. Gardyne family material preserves a marriage contract dated 13 December 1733.

Sources: Dundee Old Parish Register for the marriage; Gardyne family material, marriage contract, 13 Dec 1733.
7 May 1740 Birth of the Next James Guthrie of Craigie

James was born on 7 May 1740 and baptized in Dundee on 15 May. He later married Amelia Murray and succeeded his father in the Craigie family and estate line.

Source: Dundee Old Parish Register, baptism, 15 May 1740.
6 Aug 1764 Signature of the Lands of Craigie

NRS SIG1/72/14 records a signature concerning the lands of Craigie granted to James Guthrie, further documenting the family’s landed position.

Source: NRS SIG1/72/14, 6 Aug 1764.
26 Oct 1767 James Guthrie Marries Amelia Murray

James Guthrie married Amelia Murray, daughter of the deceased Alexander Murray, merchant in Dundee. Their large family included Alexander Murray Guthrie and George Dempster Guthrie.

Source: Dundee Old Parish Register, marriage, 26 Oct 1767; Dundee baptismal registers for their children.
Heraldry & Pedigree Review
25 Sep 1772 Arms Matriculated for James Guthrie of Craigie

James Guthrie of Craigie’s armorial matriculation was accompanied by an ancestral formulation that misplaced John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray in relation to the much earlier Hiltoun family.

Source: Court of the Lord Lyon, Coats of Arms, Vol. 1, p. 496Z, Record No. 1133, 25 Sep 1772.
29 Sep 1773 Corrected Lyon Office Pedigree

The Lyon Office recorded that an error had been discovered and supplied a corrected pedigree carrying the ancestry through William Guthrie of Hiltoun + Margaret Ogilvie, David, Charles, Patrick, the ministerial family and the Dundee merchant generation to Craigie. Bishop John was restored to the later Patrick-and-Margaret-Raitt generation.

Source: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45.
Later Estate History
9 Mar 1788 Death of James Guthrie of Craigie

James Guthrie died on 9 March 1788 and was buried at Dundee on 14 March. His son James, husband of Amelia Murray, continued the Craigie family and estate line.

Source: Dundee burial/parish record, 14 Mar 1788; death date 9 Mar 1788 as retained in the Craigie family source reconstruction.
26 May 1817 Alexander Murray Guthrie Named Eldest Son

James Guthrie’s disposition expressly identifies Alexander Murray Guthrie as “my eldest son” and refers to Amelia Murray or Guthrie, providing unusually direct evidence for this generation.

Source: disposition of James Guthrie of Craigie, 26 May 1817. The exact catalogue reference remains to be rechecked rather than invented.
14 Jan 1830 Death of James Guthrie of Craigie

James Guthrie died on 14 January 1830. The later Dundee Sheriff Court proceedings concerning his estate were recorded in 1832. By then his eldest son Alexander Murray Guthrie was also deceased.

Source: NRS SC45/31/1, Dundee Sheriff Court estate proceedings, 1832.
1831 Craigie Offered for Sale

Craigie House and approximately 232 acres were offered for sale. Later evidence shows Craigie still associated with the Guthrie family, indicating that the proposed sale did not then remove the property from Guthrie ownership.

Source basis: later Craigie estate study for the 1831 sale offering; subsequent OS evidence confirms continuing Guthrie ownership. The original 1831 advertisement remains to be recovered.
1857–1861 Ordnance Survey Records Craigie House

The OS Name Books describe Craigie House as a “rather elegant two story slated building” with offices and garden attached, belonging to James Guthrie Esq. They separately describe the working farm called Craigie.

Source: Ordnance Survey Name Books — Forfarshire (Angus), 1857–1861 .
6 Dec 1866 Death of the Unmarried James Guthrie of Craigie

The unmarried James Guthrie of Craigie died on 6 December 1866. Later succession accounts place Craigie with his Makgill kinsman George Makgill of Kemback, marking a collateral property succession rather than a father-to-son inheritance.

Source basis: later Craigie estate and genealogical accounts. The original deed or settlement by which George Makgill received Craigie has not yet been identified.
1867 James Alexander Guthrie Purchases Craigie

Later estate accounts record that James Alexander Guthrie acquired Craigie from George Makgill in 1867. This was a purchase within the wider kin network, not an automatic genealogical succession.

Source basis: later Craigie estate accounts. The primary 1867 conveyance remains a priority record to recover.
1911 Craigie House Sold

Craigie House, its immediate grounds and associated property were sold. The building later passed into institutional and residential use.

Source basis: later Craigie estate history. The original 1911 sale particulars remain to be recovered.
1923–late 1940s Craigie House Operates as a Nursing Home

The former family residence operated as a private nursing home from the 1920s into the later 1940s. Dundee Corporation minutes independently confirm Craigie House Private Nursing Home in 1939–40.

Sources: later Craigie House history; Dundee Corporation minutes, 1939–1940 .
1948–1949 Craigie House Enters Later Institutional Use

Later estate history records a short period of workers’ accommodation associated with Jute Industries Ltd., followed in 1949 by Dundee Corporation use as a retirement home.

Source basis: later Craigie House and estate history.
1983 Craigie House Demolished

Later estate history records the demolition of Craigie House in 1983 after the building had become unsuitable for modern residential-care requirements.

Source basis: later Craigie House and estate history. A primary demolition or planning record has not yet been added to this profile.
End of the Guthrie Baronial Association
2003 Baronial Dignity Remains with the Guthrie Family Estate

Following the death of the final named Guthrie holder included in this historical profile, later barony accounts state that the separate dignity of the Barony of Craigie remained within the Guthrie Family Estate.

Source basis: later Craigie barony succession accounts. Statutory context: Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000, s.63 .
Feb 2011 Barony Assigned Outside the Guthrie Family

Later barony records report that in February 2011 the separate dignity of the Barony of Craigie was transferred by assignation from the Guthrie Family Estate to a holder outside the Guthrie family. The genealogy of the family itself, of course, continued.

Source basis: later Craigie barony succession accounts for the February 2011 assignation; statutory context: Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000, s.63 . The original 2011 deed of assignation has not been examined in this audit.
Modern Genealogical Evidence
Modern research Two Craigie-Related Male Lines Match in GFG1A

Direct-male descendants of two documented sons of James Guthrie and Christian Scott—James of Craigie and Patrick Guthrie—belong to the same Guthrie Family Group 1A Y-DNA lineage. Once the paper pedigrees are established, the matching Y-DNA independently corroborates their shared paternal ancestry.

Source: Guthrie DNA Project — GFG1A Branch A .
A Family in Motion Seen chronologically, the Craigie history is not the story of one family sitting on one estate for centuries. It is the story of a family moving through Hiltoun, St Andrews, the Angus ministry, Stockholm, Dundee and finally Craigie. The changing territorial styles, occupations and property relationships make much more sense when the generations are placed back into their own historical settings.

Questions Still Open

Much of the Craigie pedigree can now be followed through independent records, but several points remain unresolved. These questions are deliberately narrow: each identifies a specific gap where another contemporary record could materially strengthen—or change—the reconstruction.

The Remaining Gaps Are Smaller Than They Once Were The principal uncertainty is no longer whether a plausible Craigie ancestry can be constructed. The later generations are strongly documented, and the corrected Lyon pedigree supplies a coherent route back through St Andrews to Hiltoun. The outstanding work is concentrated mainly in the earliest Hiltoun-to-St Andrews generations, a handful of collateral claims, and several later property records presently known only through secondary succession accounts.
Who Was William Guthrie of Hiltoun’s Father?

This remains the most important unresolved relationship in the reconstructed Craigie ancestry.

What We Know The corrected 1773 pedigree begins with William Guthrie of Hiltoun + Margaret Ogilvie. The 1623 Ramsay pedigree independently identifies William as father of Joneta Guthrie, who was married by 1518. Separate Hiltoun records document a John Guthrie of Hiltoun in 1505/06, placing him naturally in the preceding generation. Sources: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45; Bamff pedigree, No. 181, Mar 1623; RMS II, No. 2910 , 19 Jan 1505/06.
What Would Resolve It A charter, sasine, retour, marriage contract or other contemporary record explicitly identifying William as John’s son—or otherwise naming William’s parentage.
Can Charles Guthrie of St Andrews Be Found in Contemporary Records?

Charles Guthrie + Agnes Brown form the least independently documented couple in the direct Craigie ancestry.

What We Know The corrected Lyon pedigree identifies Charles as son of David Guthrie of Hiltoun + Christian Wemyss and father of Patrick Guthrie, goldsmith of St Andrews. Patrick himself is well represented in St Andrews records. Source basis: Court of the Lord Lyon, corrected Craigie pedigree, 29 Sep 1773, p. 499, No. 45; University of St Andrews Collections B65/23/386c , 1596, plus St Andrews burgh records for Patrick’s later civic and property activity.
What Would Resolve It St Andrews burgh, property, protocol, sasine, testamentary or kirk records naming Charles, Agnes Brown and preferably their son Patrick. Evidence tying Charles directly back to David of Hiltoun would be especially valuable.
Why Is Patrick Guthrie Sometimes Styled “of Collistoun”?

Later genealogical material sometimes attaches “of Collistoun” to Patrick Guthrie, goldsmith of St Andrews.

What We Know Patrick is independently documented as a St Andrews goldsmith, burgess, property holder and baillie. No contemporary evidence presently identified connects him with the separately documented Guthries of Colliston near Arbroath. Source status: “of Collistoun” remains a later genealogical attribution whose earliest source has not yet been identified. No contemporary record presently links Patrick the St Andrews goldsmith to the documented Colliston family.
What Would Resolve It Find the earliest source using the designation and determine whether it reflects an actual property connection, a different place, a mistaken identity or a later genealogical addition.
Who Was the Guthrie Daughter Who Married David Wood?

Fasti states that David Wood, Minister of Edzell, married “a sister of John Guthrie of that ilk.” The identity of that Guthrie woman remains unresolved.

What We Know If the John Guthrie named by Fasti is John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray, David Wood’s wife would belong in the same sibling group as the children of Patrick Guthrie and Margaret Raitt. That identification is plausible, but Fasti does not give the woman’s name or directly state her parents. Source: Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ, Vol. V, p. 390, entry for David Wood, Minister of Edzell; compared with the independently reconstructed family of Bishop John Guthrie.
What Would Resolve It A marriage record, testament, Wood family record, St Andrews or Edzell document naming David Wood’s wife and identifying her as a daughter of Patrick Guthrie and Margaret Raitt—or otherwise clarifying which John Guthrie was her brother.
Who Was the Reported “Laird of Aldbar”?

A later genealogy attributes to James Guthrie + Isabella Durie an unidentified son described as the “laird of Aldbar.”

What We Know Aldbar was a real Angus place and parish, later united with Aberlemno. The NRS material located so far that combines Guthrie and Aldbar concerns parish geography rather than a Guthrie proprietor. Source status: the “laird of Aldbar” designation is presently supported only by later genealogical material. No contemporary property, sasine or retour record has yet been located for a Guthrie son of this household holding Aldbar.
What Would Resolve It Identify the earliest genealogy making the claim and search property, sasine, retour and estate records for a Guthrie possessing lands at Aldbar during the appropriate generation.
Who Was the “James Guthrie of Craigie” Named in 1704?

The 1704 reference concerning the Muir of Craigie could materially change how early the Guthrie association with the estate began.

What We Know The reference reportedly places a James Guthrie of Craigie in a matter involving James Kyd. The later James Guthrie who acquired substantial Craigie lands in the 1729 transaction was born in 1698 and was therefore only a child in 1704. Source status: reported 1704 Muir of Craigie record — original not yet examined. For the secure later transfer, see NRS GD137/3167 , 1729.
What Would Resolve It Examine the underlying 1704 record rather than relying upon the later summary. If the man can be identified as James Guthrie, merchant, husband of Christian Scott, it would push the family’s Craigie association back a generation.
When Was James Guthrie, Merchant, Actually Born?

The parentage of James is well supported, but his exact birth date remains unsettled.

What We Know His Howff monument states that he died in April 1710 aged 46, implying a birth about 1663–64. A baptism dated 1669 has sometimes been assigned to him, but it conflicts with the monumental age. Source: Guthrie monument in the Howff of Dundee — death in Apr 1710, aged 46. The competing 1669 baptism remains an unresolved identity candidate.
What Would Resolve It A securely identified baptism, apprenticeship record or other contemporary document giving James’s age or date of birth.
When Was Craigie House Built?

The later history of Craigie House is fairly well documented, but its construction remains less certain.

What We Know By the nineteenth century it was the principal residence associated with the estate, and the 1857–61 Ordnance Survey described it as a “rather elegant two story slated building.” Older accounts broadly associate its development with the Guthrie proprietors. Source: Ordnance Survey Name Books — Forfarshire (Angus), 1857–1861 ; later Craigie estate history for the broader house chronology.
What Would Resolve It Estate papers, building accounts, valuation records, architectural plans or correspondence establishing the construction date or proprietor responsible. Recovering the original 1831 and 1911 sale particulars could also provide architectural descriptions and building-history clues.
Can the 1866–1867 Craigie Transfer Be Documented in the Original Records?

The later Craigie succession is now clearer, but the decisive nineteenth-century conveyances have not yet been recovered in primary form.

What We Know Later succession accounts place Craigie with George Makgill of Kemback after the unmarried James Guthrie died on 6 December 1866, and state that James Alexander Guthrie purchased Craigie from Makgill in 1867. Related accounts also report services of heir in 1846 and 1849 and a later 1860 service involving Craigie lands. Source basis: later Craigie estate and genealogical accounts; Angus and Mearns Directory, 1846, independently names James Guthrie of Craigie. The original 1846/1849 retour references, the instrument by which George Makgill received Craigie, and the 1867 conveyance have not yet been identified.
What Would Resolve It Recover the original 1846 and 1849 services of heir, the deed or settlement carrying Craigie to George Makgill after James Guthrie’s death, and the 1867 conveyance from Makgill to James Alexander Guthrie.
Questions the Evidence Has Already Narrowed or Resolved
Bishop John Guthrie’s generation is no longer uncertain. He belongs as a son of Patrick Guthrie and Margaret Raitt and brother of James, minister of Kinnell and Arbirlot.
Alexander Guthrie’s parentage is documented despite his missing baptism. His children’s baptisms identify James Guthrie, merchant, and Christian Scott as grandparents and James Guthrie of Craigie as their uncle.
The search for William’s father is not a search to restore the old Sir Alexander Guthrie + Margaret Lyon pedigree. The corrected Lyon pedigree does not make that connection.
Craigie and Ayrshire Craigie are not interchangeable. This family’s estate lay east of Dundee in historical Forfarshire, now Angus.
The Guthrie proprietors should not be treated as a numbered peerage. “Of Craigie” is the appropriate historical landed style for the family.
The two documented son-lines have an independent genetic check. Direct-male descendants through James of Craigie and Patrick both belong to Guthrie Family Group 1A, corroborating their shared paternal ancestry once the paper pedigrees are established.
Source basis: corrected Lyon Office pedigree, 29 Sep 1773; Dundee and Angus parish records; baptismal evidence for Alexander Guthrie’s parentage; Guthrie DNA Project — GFG1A Branch A .
Highest-Priority Research Targets
  1. Find contemporary evidence identifying William Guthrie of Hiltoun’s father.
  2. Search St Andrews records for Charles Guthrie + Agnes Brown and a direct link to Patrick the goldsmith.
  3. Locate and examine the original 1704 Craigie record to identify the James Guthrie named there.
  4. Trace the earliest sources for “Patrick Guthrie of Collistoun” and the reported “laird of Aldbar.”
  5. Recover the primary records behind the 1846–1867 Craigie succession, especially the services of heir, the Makgill transfer, and the 1867 conveyance to James Alexander Guthrie.

Most Wanted Documents

Records That Could Strengthen the Craigie Reconstruction

The later Guthries of Craigie are unusually well documented, and recent research has resolved several major pedigree problems. The remaining gaps are concentrated in the family’s earlier Hiltoun and St Andrews ancestry, the first connection with Craigie, several collateral relationships, and parts of the nineteenth-century estate succession.

The records below are specific documentary targets. Each has the potential to answer a question that remains genuinely unresolved rather than simply adding another citation to a relationship already proved.

Highest Priority Targeted Verification Supporting Evidence
1. William Guthrie of Hiltoun — Identify His Father
Highest Priority
Record Wanted
A contemporary charter, sasine, marriage contract, retour, testament or other record explicitly identifying the father or parents of William Guthrie of Hiltoun, husband of Margaret Ogilvie.
Known Evidence
The corrected 29 September 1773 Lyon Office pedigree begins this Craigie ancestral sequence with William Guthrie of Hiltoun and Margaret Ogilvie, but does not name William’s parents.

The Question

Who was William Guthrie of Hiltoun’s father, and how does this particular Hiltoun family connect to the earlier documented Guthries associated with Hiltoun and Eassie?

Why This Matters

This is the earliest major gap in the corrected Craigie pedigree. Filling it could either connect the Craigie ancestry securely to an earlier Hiltoun generation or demonstrate that the eighteenth-century pedigree begins at the earliest point its compilers could actually prove.

What We Need

Earlier Hiltoun deeds should be searched for William as son, heir, spouse or witness. Special attention should be given to records immediately preceding the generation of William and Margaret Ogilvie, without assuming that William belongs to a particular earlier Hiltoun pedigree merely because the territorial designation is the same.

Access: Search the National Records of Scotland Catalogue under Guthrie / Hiltoun / Hilton and related spelling variants. Compare any candidate evidence against the corrected Court of the Lord Lyon pedigree of 29 September 1773, p. 499, no. 45.
2. Charles Guthrie & Agnes Brown — Find the Contemporary Family Record
Highest Priority
Record Wanted
Contemporary St Andrews evidence naming Charles Guthrie and Agnes Brown as a married couple and, ideally, directly identifying Patrick Guthrie, goldsmith, as their son.
Pedigree Evidence
The corrected 1773 Lyon pedigree places Charles Guthrie of St Andrews + Agnes Brown between David Guthrie of Hiltoun + Christian Wemyss and Patrick Guthrie + Margaret Raitt.

The Question

Can the Charles Guthrie–Agnes Brown generation, and their direct parent-child connection to Patrick the goldsmith, be established independently of the eighteenth-century pedigree?

Why This Matters

Patrick and the later St Andrews family are increasingly well documented. Charles and Agnes remain the weakest documentary bridge between that family and the earlier Hiltoun ancestry.

What We Need

Burgess records, protocol books, property transactions, kirk records, marriage material, testaments, apprenticeship documents or other St Andrews records naming Charles, Agnes and Patrick in the same family context.

Access: Search the National Records of Scotland St Andrews burgh collections, including the B65 series, especially material surrounding B65/8 and B65/23. Also search Scotland’s People for relevant parish and testamentary material.
3. Patrick Guthrie “of Collistoun” — Find the Earliest Source
Targeted Verification
Record Wanted
The earliest source styling Patrick Guthrie, goldsmith of St Andrews, “of Collistoun”.
Known Family
Patrick is independently documented in St Andrews as a goldsmith, burgess and baillie and as husband of Margaret Raitt. Their family included John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray.

The Question

Did Patrick possess or use a genuine territorial association with Colliston, or did “of Collistoun” arise later through pedigree confusion?

Why This Matters

The designation helped create older claims linking Bishop John to the independent Colliston landed succession. The Craigie reconstruction now places the Bishop securely within Patrick’s St Andrews family. What remains unresolved is the origin of the Collistoun label itself.

What We Need

Trace the wording backward through the Lyon pedigrees, printed genealogies and family manuscripts, then test it against contemporary St Andrews and Colliston property records.

Access: Compare the 1772 and corrected 1773 Craigie material at the Court of the Lord Lyon with Patrick’s St Andrews burgh records and the surviving Colliston title papers at the National Records of Scotland.
4. Patrick Guthrie’s Unnamed Daughter — Identify the Wife of David Wood
Supporting Evidence
Record Wanted
A marriage record, testament, ministerial biography, sasine or family record naming the daughter of Patrick Guthrie and Margaret Raitt reported to have married David Wood, minister of Edzell.
Current Status
The relationship appears in later genealogical material, but the daughter’s own name and direct contemporary documentation have not yet been recovered.

The Question

Which Guthrie daughter married David Wood, and can she be documented as a child of Patrick Guthrie and Margaret Raitt?

Why This Matters

Although she does not affect the direct male Craigie succession, identifying her would complete an important collateral branch of the St Andrews family and could reveal additional records naming her parents and siblings.

What We Need

Search David Wood’s ministerial career, Edzell parish material, Wood family papers, marriage or baptismal records, testaments and St Andrews records for his wife.

Access: Search Scotland’s People and the National Records of Scotland under David Wood / Wod, Edzell, St Andrews, Patrick Guthrie and Margaret Raitt. Church records and ministerial sources relating to Edzell should be compared with the St Andrews family evidence.
5. The Reported “Laird of Aldbar” — Identify the Man and the Source
Targeted Verification
Record Wanted
The earliest genealogy making the claim and any contemporary sasine, retour, charter or estate record identifying a Guthrie proprietor of Aldbar in the appropriate generation.
Reported Relationship
A later genealogy attributes an unidentified son, described as “laird of Aldbar,” to James Guthrie and Isabella Durie.

The Question

Was there actually a son of James Guthrie and Isabella Durie who possessed Aldbar, and if so, what was his name?

Why This Matters

The claim may preserve a genuine collateral Craigie connection—or it may represent another later pedigree error. Property records should be capable of distinguishing between the two.

What We Need

Identify the earliest version of the claim, then search Aldbar property records, sasines, retours, rentals and estate papers for a Guthrie proprietor during the appropriate period.

Access: Search the NRS Catalogue under Guthrie + Aldbar / Aldbarre / Aberlemno and related territorial variants. Property evidence should take precedence over later pedigree labels.
6. The Muir of Craigie — Examine the Original 26 February 1704 Town Council Act
Highest Priority
Exact Record Wanted
The original Dundee Town Council minute or act dated 26 February 1704 relating to the Muir of Craigie.
Known Later Evidence
Later council material refers back to acts of 24 October 1676 and 26 February 1704 concerning the Rood Yards, Oliver’s Croft, Quarry Holes and Muir of Craigie. The securely documented Guthrie acquisition is much later: NRS GD137/3167, 1729, records the disposal of the price of Craigie lands sold by James and George Kyd to James Guthrie.

The Question

Does the original 1704 act actually name a James Guthrie “of Craigie”, as some later summaries imply, or has the chronology of the later settlement been compressed or misread?

Why This Matters

The later James Guthrie who securely acquired Craigie was born in 1698 and was therefore only a child in 1704. If an adult James Guthrie was genuinely styled “of Craigie” in the original act, the family’s association with Craigie would require substantial reinterpretation. If not, one of the most persistent anomalies in the Craigie chronology disappears.

What We Need

A high-quality image and full transcription of the 26 February 1704 council entry, including every named party and the exact wording concerning ownership, possession or rights in the Muir.

Access: Dundee City Archives holds the Town Council Minutes for 1699–1705, including overlapping principal and small volumes for part of this period.

Index to Dundee Town Council Minutes, 1699–1705  ·  Dundee City Archives

For comparison: NRS GD137/3167 — 1729 Craigie disposal .
7. James Guthrie, Merchant — Birth, Stockholm Apprenticeship and Parentage
Highest Priority
Records Wanted
A baptism or birth record for James Guthrie, merchant; his original Stockholm apprenticeship or merchant record; and the complete testamentary evidence of Rev. John Guthrie that might explicitly name James as his son.
Known Evidence
James’s Houff monument reports that he died in April 1710 aged 46, implying a birth about 1663–64. He later married Christian Scott and became the ancestor from whom two independently documented GFG1A direct-male lines descend.

The Question

Can James’s exact birth be established, can his Stockholm apprenticeship be recovered in its original form, and can the historical connection to Rev. John Guthrie be strengthened by a direct contemporary parent-child statement?

Why This Matters

James and Christian Scott are the point at which the later Craigie pedigree and the independent Y-DNA evidence converge. The DNA strongly corroborates the paternal line from James forward, but it does not by itself prove James’s earlier ancestry.

What We Need

Search Dundee and surrounding baptismal records for c.1663–64; examine the full testament of Rev. John Guthrie; and search Swedish merchant, apprenticeship and burgess records for James during his Stockholm period.

Access: Rev. John Guthrie’s testamentary material is associated with Brechin Commissary Court CC3/3/7. The CC3/3 registers have been digitized and are accessible through Scotland’s People .

For Swedish records, search the Swedish National Archives — Search the Collections for James Guthrie and appropriate name variants in Stockholm.
8. Craigie House — Find Its Construction Record and Early Images
Targeted Verification
Records Wanted
Estate accounts, building contracts, architectural plans, correspondence, early maps, drawings or photographs identifying when Craigie House was built, altered or rebuilt and by whom.
Known Evidence
The 1857–1861 Ordnance Survey Name Books describe Craigie House as a “rather elegant two story slated building”. Later estate history documents its nineteenth- and twentieth-century use, but its precise construction history remains uncertain.

The Question

Which Craigie proprietor built the house known from the nineteenth-century record, and how much of it represented an earlier structure?

Why This Matters

The house became the visible seat of the later family, but the profile can currently describe its ownership more confidently than its architectural origins.

What We Need

Estate papers and building accounts should be compared with the 1831 sale offering, Ordnance Survey evidence, nineteenth-century maps and photographs, and the 1911 sale particulars.

Access: Search Dundee City Archives, local estate papers and historic newspapers for Craigie House sales and construction references. The Ordnance Survey Name Books are available through ScotlandsPlaces — Forfarshire/Angus OS Name Books, 1857–1861 .
9. Craigie Succession, 1846–1867 — Recover the Original Heir and Conveyance Records
Highest Priority
Records Wanted
The original service of heir dated 8 April 1846; the second service dated 11 January 1849; the deed or settlement by which George Makgill of Kemback received Craigie after James Guthrie’s death on 6 December 1866; and the 1867 conveyance transferring the estate to James Alexander Guthrie.
Current Reconstruction
Later accounts provide this succession sequence, but the original documents have not all been recovered and incorporated into the profile.

The Question

Exactly how did legal ownership of Craigie pass through the nineteenth-century family, especially during the brief Makgill interval of 1866–1867?

Why This Matters

Recovering the legal documents would replace later narrative with the actual succession instruments and would clarify the distinction between genealogy, estate ownership and the separate baronial dignity.

What We Need

Full copies of both services of heir and the 1866–1867 settlement, disposition, assignation, sasine or other conveyancing documents, including their recitals of previous ownership.

Access: The National Records of Scotland C22 Register of Retours covers services of heirs through 1847 and should be searched for the 8 April 1846 service. Post-1847 petitions for services of heirs are represented in CS345, which should be checked for the 11 January 1849 service.

NRS C22 — Register of Retours  ·  Search the NRS Catalogue for the 1866–1867 conveyances
10. The 2011 Barony Assignation — Obtain the Original Deed
Supporting Evidence
Record Wanted
The original February 2011 deed of assignation transferring the separate dignity of the Barony of Craigie outside the Guthrie family estate.
Why Separate
By this period the historical baronial dignity must be treated separately from ownership of the former Craigie lands and from the genealogical succession of the Guthrie family.

The Question

What exactly was assigned in 2011, and what wording did the deed use to describe the surviving baronial right?

Why This Matters

The deed would document the final stage of the profile’s baronial history without implying that the modern dignity carried ownership of Craigie House or the historic Craigie estate.

What We Need

A complete copy of the executed deed showing the assignor, description of the dignity, date, terms of transfer and any recital of earlier title.

Access: Search surviving Guthrie estate papers and any solicitors’ or private records associated with the 2011 transaction. For the legal distinction between feudal landholding and surviving baronial dignity, see Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000, section 63 .
Research note: Several questions that once dominated the Craigie pedigree do not belong on this list anymore. The corrected 1773 Lyon pedigree has been examined and replaces the erroneous 1772 ancestral construction; Bishop John Guthrie’s family position is now substantially clarified; Alexander Guthrie’s parentage within the James Guthrie–Christian Scott family is supported by contemporary family evidence even though his exact baptism remains uncertain; and two independently documented direct-male descendant lines now provide GFG1A Y-DNA corroboration for the paternal line from James Guthrie and Christian Scott forward. Most Wanted Documents is therefore reserved for records that can still change or materially strengthen the reconstruction.

Sources & Further Research

The Craigie reconstruction draws upon several different kinds of evidence: contemporary charters and property records, parish registers, ministerial biographies, testaments, monumental inscriptions, heraldic pedigrees and modern Y-DNA results. No single source establishes the entire descent. The strength of the reconstruction comes from comparing them.

Reading the Sources Records created during a person’s lifetime are given the greatest weight when establishing identity, relationships and chronology. Later pedigrees remain valuable—especially the corrected 1773 Lyon Office pedigree—but are treated as retrospective genealogical evidence and tested wherever possible against contemporary records.
Heraldry & Family Pedigrees
  • Coats of Arms, Vol. 1, p. 496Z · Record No. 1133 Court of the Lord Lyon — Matriculation of Arms, 25 September 1772 Initial armorial pedigree associated with James Guthrie of Craigie. Its ancestral wording placed John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray incorrectly in relation to the earlier Hiltoun ancestry. Digital image examined through Scotland’s People.
  • p. 499 · No. 45 Court of the Lord Lyon — Corrected Pedigree, 29 September 1773 Records that an error had been discovered in the earlier descent. The corrected ancestry begins with William Guthrie of Hiltoun + Margaret Ogilvie and continues through David of Hiltoun, Charles of St Andrews, Patrick the goldsmith, the ministerial generations, James the Dundee/Stockholm merchant and James Guthrie of Craigie.
  • Bamff Pedigree · No. 181 · March 1623 Ramsay of Bamff Pedigree Identifies Joneta Guthrie as the legitimate daughter of William Guthrie of Hiltoun. Her marriage to Alexander Ramsay is independently documented by a contemporary Brechin record dated 10 May 1518.
Early Hiltoun Documentary Anchors
  • RMS II, No. 2910 · 19 Jan 1505/06 John Guthrie of Hiltoun Contemporary evidence for a John Guthrie styled of Hiltoun immediately before William’s documented generation. It does not prove John as William’s father. View RMS Volume II Guthrie entries .
  • Brechin record · 10 May 1518 Alexander Ramsay & Joneta Guthre Contemporary record identifying Alexander Ramsay and Joneta Guthre as spouses. When read with the 1623 Bamff pedigree, it independently anchors the daughter whom that later pedigree assigns to William of Hiltoun.
  • NRS GD16/3/42 · 3 Nov 1544 John Guthrie, Son and Heir of the Deceased David Guthrie of Eassie Direct contemporary parentage evidence for John. This is important to the reconstructed branch point beside the Craigie pedigree, but the record does not name John’s mother. View NRS Chronological Index .
National Records of Scotland & Property Records
  • GD137/3167 · 1729 Account of Disposal of the Price of the Lands of Craigie Records the lands of Craigie sold by James and George Kyd to James Guthrie. This is the clearest presently identified primary marker for the transfer of substantial Craigie property into Guthrie hands.
  • GD137/1670 · 1740 Memorial Involving James Guthrie of Craigie Names James Guthrie of Craigie in a dispute involving a tenant, confirming the landed style in contemporary use.
  • SIG1/72/14 · 6 August 1764 Signature of the Lands of Craigie Signature granted to James Guthrie for the lands of Craigie. NRS notes that signatures were the English draft warrants used for issuing the corresponding Latin charters.
  • CC3/3/7 · recorded 1688 Testament of Rev. John Guthrie Brechin Commissary Court material relating to John Guthrie, minister of Dundee. His son John and daughter Isobel are associated with the administration of the estate.
  • CC3/3/10 · 31 January 1741 Testament Dative & Inventory of John Guthrie of Westhall Provides evidence for the elder merchant son of Rev. John Guthrie and the family’s continuing Dundee/Stockholm commercial connections.
  • SC45/31/1 · 1832 Dundee Sheriff Court Estate Proceedings Relates to the estate of James Guthrie of Craigie, died 14 January 1830. The proceedings also establish that his eldest son Alexander Murray Guthrie was deceased by 1832 and underpin the reconstructed reference to Alexander’s Trust Disposition and Settlement dated 26 August 1829. The original 1829 instrument has not yet been separately identified.
  • Aberlemno Kirk Session Records — CH2/5 Useful for the historical relationship between Aberlemno and Aldbar, but not evidence that a Guthrie was laird of Aldbar.
St Andrews Burgh & Kirk Records
  • B65/8 St Andrews Burgh Court Records Include Patrick Guthrie’s activity as a baillie of St Andrews around 1601–1602.
  • B65/23 · including B65/23/386c (1596) St Andrews Sasines & Notarial Material Records associated with Patrick Guthrie’s property interests, including tenements on the south side of the Marketgate. View B65/23/386c .
  • St Andrews Protocol Books & Kirk Session Records Additional evidence for Patrick Guthrie as goldsmith, burgess and property holder. Kirk records also preserve his association with the manufacture of communion-token irons.
Fasti Ecclesiæ Scoticanæ
  • James Guthrie — Minister of Kinnell & Arbirlot Identifies James, born 17 September 1590, as a son of Patrick Guthrie, goldsmith of St Andrews. James married Isabella Durie and became the ancestor through whom the Craigie line continued.
  • John Guthrie — Minister of Arbirlot & Dundee Documents the clerical career of James’s son John, born 13 August 1631, educated at St Andrews and translated to Dundee in 1667.
  • John Guthrie of Westhall & James Guthrie, Merchants Fasti, parish evidence and later testamentary material preserve the Stockholm commercial careers of Rev. John Guthrie’s sons, helping bridge the ministerial family to the Dundee merchant generation.
  • John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray Ministerial and biographical evidence places Bishop John within Patrick Guthrie’s St Andrews family rather than in the earlier Hiltoun generation suggested by the 1772 armorial pedigree.
  • Vol. V · p. 390 David Wood — Minister of Edzell States that David Wood married “a sister of John Guthrie of that ilk.” This is important evidence for the unidentified Guthrie woman, but it does not name her or directly identify her parents.
Parish Registers & Family Reconstruction
  • Dundee Old Parish Registers Baptisms and marriages document the families of Rev. John Guthrie + Isobel Lamb, James Guthrie + Christian Scott, James Guthrie of Craigie + Elizabeth Gardyne and later generations. A key anchor is OPR 282/120/18, the 1695 marriage of James Guthrie and Christian Scott.
  • Baptisms of the Children of Alexander Guthrie & Elizabeth Moray Particularly important because they identify James Guthrie, merchant, as grandfather, Christian Scott as grandmother, and James Guthrie of Craigie as uncle. These records establish Alexander’s parentage even though his own baptism has not yet been located.
  • St Vigeans Parish Registers Include the 1726 marriage of Patrick Guthrie + Agnes Foord, the second son-line from James Guthrie and Christian Scott represented in GFG1A Y-DNA.
Monumental & Published Historical Evidence
  • James Thomson, The History of Dundee, 1874 Preserves a transcription of the Howff monument to James Guthrie, merchant. The inscription identifies his father as Mr John Guthrie, minister in Dundee; records his Stockholm apprenticeship and international trade; names his wife Christian Scott; and states that he died in April 1710 aged 46, leaving his wife and seven sons surviving.
  • Ordnance Survey Name Books — Forfarshire, 1857–1861 Distinguish Craigie, the farm, from Craigie House, described as a “rather elegant two story slated building,” both then the property of James Guthrie Esq.
  • Alexander Johnston Warden, Angus or Forfarshire, the Land and its People Important nineteenth-century local history for Craigie, the Kyd proprietors and the wider Angus landscape. Useful as a compiled source, but legal and genealogical claims are checked against contemporary records where possible.
  • Alexander Wedderburn, The Wedderburn Book Supplies detailed Kyd of Craigie material, including sasine, family and property references that clarify why the seventeenth- century Kyd succession cannot be reduced to simple proprietor date ranges.
  • The Red Book of Scotland Provides useful compiled marriage and family information, including the Gardyne and Murray connections. Dates derived from it are compared with original parish-register evidence where possible.
  • Dennis F. Collins — Craigie Estate Studies Later Craigie histories attributed to Collins include The Demise of an Estate and the Growth of a Suburb — the Barony of Craigie and the study cited as The Barony of Craigie, The Demesne and Manor Farm of Craigie and Craigie House, Dundee. They are useful secondary sources for Craigie House and the later estate, but individual dates and conveyances should continue to be checked against original records.
Genetic Genealogy
  • Guthrie DNA Project — Guthrie Family Group 1A Direct-male descendants through two documented sons of James Guthrie + Christian Scott— James Guthrie of Craigie and Patrick Guthrie—belong to the same paternal genetic group. View GFG1A Branch A .
  • The Y-DNA evidence supports a shared paternal lineage but does not by itself establish the earlier documentary descent through the ministers, St Andrews family or Hiltoun generations.
Later Craigie Estate & Barony
  • 1831 & 1911 Craigie Sale History Later estate studies report the 1831 offering of Craigie House with approximately 232 acres and the sale of Craigie House in 1911. The original sale advertisements or particulars have not yet been recovered and remain research targets.
  • Angus and Mearns Directory, 1846 Independently names James Guthrie of Craigie during the nineteenth-century estate succession. Later accounts report services of heir in 1846 and 1849; the original retour references still need to be recovered.
  • Dundee Corporation Minutes, 1939–1940 Independently record Craigie House Private Nursing Home under the Nursing Homes Registration (Scotland) Act 1938. View Dundee Corporation minutes .
  • Later Craigie Succession & Barony Accounts Later accounts place Craigie with George Makgill after the unmarried James Guthrie died in 1866 and report its purchase by James Alexander Guthrie in 1867. They also report that after 2003 the separate baronial dignity remained with the Guthrie Family Estate until an assignation outside the family in February 2011. The original 1866–67 conveyances and 2011 deed of assignation have not yet been examined.
  • Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000 · s.63 Provides the legal context for the later baronial dignity: after abolition of feudal tenure, the dignity ceased to attach to the land and survived as transferable incorporeal heritable property. View section 63 .
Further Research Priorities
Locate a contemporary record identifying the father of William Guthrie of Hiltoun.
Search St Andrews records for Charles Guthrie + Agnes Brown and a direct documentary connection to Patrick the goldsmith.
Obtain and examine the underlying 1704 Muir of Craigie record to identify the James Guthrie styled “of Craigie.”
Continue reviewing Patrick Guthrie’s B65/8, B65/23, protocol-book and kirk-session records at St Andrews.
Trace the earliest source styling Patrick Guthrie “of Collistoun.”
Identify the original source for the reported “laird of Aldbar” son of James Guthrie and Isabella Durie.
Identify the Guthrie woman whom Fasti calls “a sister of John Guthrie of that ilk” and wife of David Wood, Minister of Edzell; determine whether John was Bishop John and document her parentage directly.
Examine the full testament of Rev. John Guthrie, CC3/3/7, for additional family relationships and property information.
Search for an apprenticeship, birth or other age record capable of resolving the exact birth date of James Guthrie, merchant.
Recover the original instrument for Alexander Murray Guthrie’s Trust Disposition and Settlement dated 26 August 1829. The date is presently known through the later 1832 estate proceedings, not from a separately identified 1829 archival item.
Recover the original 1831 and 1911 Craigie sale particulars and continue searching estate papers, architectural records and images for the construction date and appearance of Craigie House.
Recover the primary records behind the 1846–1867 Craigie succession: the reported 1846 and 1849 services of heir, the instrument by which George Makgill received Craigie, and the 1867 conveyance to James Alexander Guthrie.
If obtainable, examine the original February 2011 deed of assignation for the Barony of Craigie so the modern barony sequence need not depend solely on later succession accounts.
A Reconstruction, Not a Finished Pedigree New records can strengthen, refine or overturn individual parts of any historical genealogy. For that reason, this profile distinguishes documented relationships, retrospective pedigree evidence, genetic support and relationships still under investigation. Where the evidence stops, the pedigree stops too.

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