2A-G: James Guthrie

Interpretive keepsakes bearing the names of John Guthrie and Jane Reed’s children.

Guthrie Family Group 2A · Branch G · Child Page

James Guthrie & Margaret Dixon

James: ABOUT 1770–1771 – 1848 · Margaret: 1779 – 1849
Westmoreland & Armstrong Counties, Pennsylvania

A family farm, ten children, and provisions for the next generation. James Guthrie, son of John Guthrie and Jane Reed, married Margaret Dixon in 1796. Their family became established in the Kiskiminetas country, where the home farm passed to their son Andrew and later remained associated with his descendants.

James’s 1811 deed expressly names his father and brother. His 1848 will, preserved in Laurence R. Guthrie’s typed abstract, adds a more personal view: a room for Margaret, support for their younger son James, land for Andrew and William, and provisions for Samuel, Polly and Nancy. Together with the family histories, these records help trace descendants who remained in Pennsylvania and others who moved west.

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Family at a Glance

James Guthrie

Parents
John Guthrie & Jane Reed
Birth
ABOUT 1770–1771. The research profile uses 1771 and Beaver Run, Pennsylvania; AGAF gives about 1770 in Londonderry, Ireland. His birthplace remains unresolved.
Death
16 December 1848, Kiskiminetas Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania; reported burial at Beulah Church Cemetery, near Apollo.
Occupation & Community
Farmer; remembered as a Whig and an elder of Saltsburg Presbyterian Church.

Margaret Dixon

Parents
Samuel Dixon & Agnes Simpson, as identified in the supplied research profile; the underlying parentage evidence remains to be documented.
Birth
1779, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, in the research profile. Smith’s county history instead calls her Irish-born.
Death
April 1849; reported in Armstrong County, with burial at Beulah Church Cemetery.
In James’s Will
Provided with her room, or another room she considered more comfortable.

Married 15 January 1796
Date reported in AGAF and the research profiles; an original marriage entry has not yet been identified.

The Ten Guthrie Children

The family histories name ten children, including an infant James and a later son also named James. The table follows the current reconstruction while identifying disputed dates. “Death unknown” does not mean that a person survived their father.

Dates from the supplied profiles and compiled family accounts; source differences are explained in the sketches and records notes.
ChildLife DatesSpouse / Family
Jane Guthrie9 October 1796 – death unknownJoseph Henderson; descendants not identified here
Agnes “Nancy” Guthrie15 November 1798 – 11 May 1873Samuel Marshall; nine reported children
Samuel Dixon Guthrie11 March 1801 – 18811. Hannah Speer; 2. Mary Russell
John Guthrie19 September 1804 – death unknownMarriage and descendants unresolved
Mary “Polly” Guthrie5 February 1806 – 9 December 1882Abraham Dally; eight reported children
James Guthrie, infant30 May 1808 – 1808, reportedDied in infancy
William Guthrie14 March 1810 – 3 March 1875; AGAF gives 30 March1. Margaret Elizabeth Chambers; 2. Eliza Mary Robinson
Andrew Dixon Guthrie2 June 1812 – 24 September 1860Margaret Todd Cummins
Joseph R. Guthrie22 July 1816 – 29 March 1845, reportedNo spouse or children established here
James S. Guthrie10 March 1819 – 4 July 1868; AGAF calls him James L.No verified marriage or children

The descendant lists preserve the legacy research. They do not imply that every descendant’s vital record has been independently examined.

Jane Guthrie & Joseph Henderson

Jane, the eldest reported child, was born on 9 October 1796. AGAF identifies her husband as Joseph Henderson of Blairsville, Pennsylvania. Their marriage date and children remain unidentified in the material reviewed.

Her individual profile displays an unknown death date but contains the note “Before 1849. Not listed in her father’s will.” The legacy narrative used BEFORE 1848. Neither estimate is established by omission from the will. Both are retained as research notes rather than a verified death boundary.

The will abstract also names Eliza M Laughlin, now Eliza Henderson. It does not identify her as Jane or state her relationship to James. The shared Henderson surname is a lead to investigate, not a reason to merge the women.

Agnes “Nancy” Guthrie & Samuel Marshall

Born 15 November 1798, Agnes is called Nancy in AGAF and in her father’s will abstract. Nancy was a customary historical nickname for Agnes. Her supplied profile reports a marriage in 1819 to Samuel Marshall, remembered as “Tanner Sam.” The legacy account describes him as a farmer, tanner and merchant and places their move to a 170-acre farm in Cowanshannock Township in 1847.

Nancy died on 11 May 1873. Samuel reportedly died on 4 January 1881; both are associated with Glade Run Cemetery. Their nine reported children were:

  1. Jane S. Marshall (1819–1888), reported unmarried.
  2. James Guthrie Marshall (1821–1881), married Nancy Blair.
  3. John M. Marshall (1824–1886), married Matilda Catherine Findley.
  4. Margaret D. Marshall (1828–1886), married Robert Cathcart Latimer.
  5. Andrew Smith Marshall (1830–1912), married Lavina E. Gourley.
  6. Mary Marshall (born 1833), married William Wallace Caldwell.
  7. Anne Elizabeth Marshall (1835–1875), married John C. Russell.
  8. William C. Marshall (1838–1912), reported unmarried.
  9. Joseph McKee Marshall (1842–1843), died in infancy.

AGAF’s short list names only James, William, Milton and Andrew. It is not a complete nine-child reconstruction; “Milton” should be compared with John M.’s records before expanding his middle name.

Samuel Dixon Guthrie — The Speer and Russell Marriages

Samuel was born on 11 March 1801, the date in AGAF and his principal profile fact; an alternate fact gives 1 March. He married first Hannah Speer, who died on 19 January 1846, and second Mary Russell of Connellsville. AGAF assigns four sons to Hannah and reports no children by the second marriage.

The supplied census notes follow Samuel from Kiskiminetas to Young Township, Indiana County, by 1870 and to his son William’s household in Gibson City, Ford County, Illinois, in 1880. He reportedly died there in 1881 and was buried in Drummer Township Cemetery.

  1. William Henry Guthrie (19 March 1832 – 1923), married Jennie Stewart on 15 October 1869; later lived in Illinois.
  2. John Milton Guthrie (8 December 1833 – 19 October 1918), married first Jane / Jennie Wallace and second Annie M. Donaldson in October 1864.
  3. James Speer Guthrie (15 July 1835 – 25 October 1846), died in childhood.
  4. Andrew S. Guthrie (5 June 1836 – 24 October 1881), reported married to Anna Robbins in 1873. AGAF prints June, not October, for his birth month.

The 1850 and 1870 notes call Samuel’s wife Mary; the 1860 transcription calls her Margaret. That difference needs the original schedules and marriage evidence, rather than an assumed third marriage. Mary’s suggested death interval of 1870–1880 depends on correctly identifying her in 1870 and Samuel as widowed in 1880.

This Samuel is distinct from Samuel Dixon Guthrie, born 5 March 1805, son of William Guthrie and Agnes “Nancy” Dixon, who reportedly remained unmarried and died at Delmont in 1886.

John Guthrie — A Lead in Laurence Guthrie’s Later Notes

John’s reported birth is 19 September 1804. His individual profile carries BEFORE 1848 as a death fact, with an explanatory note saying “Before 1849” because he was not listed in his father’s will. Omission does not establish either boundary.

Laurence R. Guthrie later asked whether the John tentatively placed under Samuel Guthrie in AGAF, page 185, might instead be this son of James, listed on page 417. The question appears in the later notes at PDF page 125, typed revision page 20, manuscript page 110.

This is a useful family-placement lead. It calls for comparison of the candidate John’s age, residences, wife, children and land with this family. Laurence posed a question; he did not supply a proved transfer of the family.

Mary “Polly” Guthrie & Abraham Dally

Mary was born on 5 February 1806. Her supplied profile gives a marriage to Abraham Dally on 11 October 1827, more specific than the legacy estimate of about 1825–1827. Its location is entered as “Armstrong, Ohio”; that place needs verification and is not silently changed here.

Abraham reportedly died in 1842. The legacy identifies Mary’s brother Andrew Dixon Guthrie with the administration of his estate; the original appointment remains a retrieval lead. Mary later lived in Monroe County, Ohio, and is reported in her daughter Hannah’s household in 1880. She died on 9 December 1882 and is associated with Laings Presbyterian Church Cemetery.

  1. Charles D. Dally (1828–1883), physician; married Mary J. McCurdy.
  2. Margaret J. Dally (1830–1830), died in infancy.
  3. James Guthrie Dally (1831–1909), married Anna Elizabeth Wetzel; lived in Ohio.
  4. Samuel L. Dally (1834–1907), physician; reported unmarried.
  5. William Thomas Dally (1836–1912), married Sarah Catherine Poole; later associated with California.
  6. Hannah Martha Dally (born 1838), married Charles Twinem. The legacy gives death in 1901; the supplied family panel gives 1909. The discrepancy remains open.
  7. Nancy Jane Dally (1841–1845), died in childhood.
  8. Abram Dally (1842–1842), died in infancy.

AGAF lists five Dally children without full dates: Charles, Samuel, Guthrie, William and Martha. The fuller eight-child reconstruction comes from the legacy research and uploaded profile.

James Guthrie — The Child Who Died in Infancy

The sixth child was born on 30 May 1808. AGAF says he died in infancy; the research profile places his death in 1808. He is a separate child from the younger James born in 1819.

William Guthrie — The Chambers and Robinson Families

William’s profile gives 14 March 1810 for his birth, while AGAF prints 30 March 1810. The legacy describes him as a farmer, miller and postmaster in the Dayton / Wayne Township area. His profile includes Phoenix postmaster sources; these appointments should be cited by their underlying records before exact service periods are assigned.

He married first Margaret Elizabeth Chambers, born CIRCA 1822. Her individual profile says BEFORE 1856, explaining that the estimate comes from William’s remarriage. That inference establishes no exact death year; the dated event is his second marriage to Eliza Mary Robinson on 8 October 1856 at Saltsburg.

William died on 3 March 1875 and is reported buried at Glade Run Cemetery, Dayton. Eliza, also called Mary Eliza, was born on 7 January 1821. Her profile places her in Saltsburg in 1880 as a widowed mantua maker; her death date remains unidentified.

Children assigned to Margaret Chambers in the current reconstruction:

  1. James Dixon Guthrie (1842–1903), married Anna Mary Goss; a farmer later associated with Kansas.
  2. Mariah J. Guthrie (born 1844), reported in the 1850 household. Absence from the later household does not prove childhood death.
  3. Margaret M. Guthrie (born 1846), reported in the 1850 and 1860 households.
  4. Emma E. Guthrie (1847–1936), married Samuel Byars Flemming; later associated with Kansas.
  5. Melissa Louisa Guthrie (1851–1936), married John Umpstead; later associated with Kansas.

Children assigned to Eliza Robinson:

  1. Eva Lizzie Guthrie (1859–1926), married Adam James Weir Robinson.
  2. Sarah Olivia Guthrie (1862–1935), married William Benton Scott in 1918; no children reported.
  3. Chambers Guthrie (born 1867), reported to have died BEFORE 1880 in the legacy account; the underlying death evidence remains to be identified.

AGAF’s allocation differs materially: it separates James and Dixon, includes W. Chambers under the first marriage, and calls Eva and Sara twins. These statements are not silently combined with the current eight-child reconstruction. Compare the original censuses, church records and descendant certificates.

Andrew Dixon Guthrie & Margaret Todd Cummins — The Home Farm

Andrew was born on 2 June 1812 and remained on the family farm. He married Margaret Todd Cummins about 1842. AGAF gives her birth as 12 May 1813 and death in 1891, identifying her parents as William Cummins and Margaret Todd.

James’s will abstract leaves Andrew the home tract and an interest in Indiana County land, with responsibilities that include maintaining his brother James. Andrew is remembered as an energetic farmer who improved the property. He died on 24 September 1860 and was buried at Beulah Church Cemetery.

The 1891 biography and AGAF enumerate five children. Smith’s 1883 account says six, with three reaching maturity:

  1. Unnamed twin, born 5 September 1844; reported to have died young.
  2. Unnamed twin, born 5 September 1844; reported to have died young.
  3. Margaret Jane Guthrie (28 August 1845 – 1926), reported unmarried.
  4. John Calvin Guthrie (16 December 1846 – 1905), reported unmarried; AGAF prints John A., while the county accounts and profile use Calvin / C.
  5. William Cummins Guthrie (16 December 1848 – 7 February 1907), married Margaret “Maggie” McAdoo on 5 December 1878.

An additional unnamed child is represented in the research tree to reflect the six-child account. Its name, sex, dates and birth order are not established. The twins’ precise death dates are also unproved.

William Cummins Guthrie later farmed, manufactured charcoal at Apollo and worked in the natural-gas business. AGAF records four children with Margaret McAdoo: John Andrew (25 August 1879), Nancy Todd (11 April 1881), Margaret J. (15 January 1884), and William J. (19 September 1885). The family histories report that he retained his grandfather’s Penn-heirs purchase receipt.

Joseph R. Guthrie — The Drowning and the Will Reference

Joseph was born on 22 July 1816. AGAF says that he and his horse drowned when he was a young man. His supplied profile gives 29 March 1845 as his death date, but AGAF does not supply that date. The passage is on printed page 417, not page 412 as cited in the profile note.

The 1848 will abstract refers to land previously conveyed by Wm C. McKnight to “son Joseph.” The beneficiary of the present bequest is Andrew D. Guthrie. Joseph is not expressly called living or deceased, and the abstract does not make a separate gift to him. This wording does not contradict an earlier death, but it does not establish the reported 1845 date either.

James S. Guthrie — Lifelong Support from His Brother

The younger James’s individual profile gives 10 March 1819 – 4 July 1868. AGAF agrees on the birth date but calls him James L.; the 1891 county biography calls him James S. The legacy narrative’s 1818 is not retained as the principal year.

His father’s will abstract directs that he live with Andrew, who was to provide for his needs for life. It gives no diagnosis. The supplied census research places him in Andrew’s household in 1850 and 1860, with inconsistent recorded ages. A nearby Sarah in the 1860 household is not, by that placement alone, evidence of a wife.

No verified marriage or children are assigned here. His profile reports burial at Beulah Church Cemetery.

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Historical Highlights

Interpretive watercolor of women working on a Pennsylvania farm.

A Childhood on Either Side of the Atlantic

James belonged to John Guthrie and Jane Reed’s family, whose story connects Ireland with the Westmoreland frontier. The surviving accounts disagree about where James himself was born. AGAF places him in Londonderry about 1770; the 1891 biography of his grandson places his birth on Beaver Run between 1770 and 1775. The research profile’s 1771 reflects a reported gravestone age of seventy-seven in 1848. An age can support an approximate year, but it cannot settle the birthplace.

Interpretive artwork recalling family work on a Pennsylvania farm; not an identified Guthrie property or portrait.

Marriage and a New Farm

James and Margaret married in 1796. The family histories place their settlement in the country later known as Armstrong County about 1796–1798. They describe a wooded farm, land clearing and a log house. The acreage varies: about 300 acres in the later biography and AGAF, and 336 acres in Smith’s history. The patent, survey and purchase receipt would show whether these figures describe the same holding.

The farm became the setting for ten children born between 1796 and 1819. There were losses as well as growth: one James died in infancy, and Joseph’s story was remembered through the drowning that took both him and his horse.

A Son and Brother Named in a Deed

James maintained legal ties to his father’s Westmoreland property after establishing his own household. On 5 March 1811, he conveyed his interest in that tract to William for $540, explicitly calling John Guthrie his father and William his brother. Margaret released her dower interest the same day. The documents were recorded on 4 May 1811.

This is especially valuable evidence because the relationships are stated in the record itself. Margaret’s release identifies her as James’s wife, although it does not give her maiden surname.

Church, Community and Reported Military Service

The histories remember James as a Whig and a long-serving elder of Saltsburg Presbyterian Church. They also report active service in the War of 1812 and a later pension. Those military statements remain attributed to the biographies until an identified service and pension file can be connected securely to this James.

Planning for Margaret and the Children

James made his will on 5 December 1848, eleven days before his reported death. Laurence Guthrie’s typed abstract preserves arrangements for Margaret’s comfort and for their younger son James’s lifelong maintenance. Andrew was to receive the home farm; William received an interest in land on Mahoning Creek. Samuel and Polly were allowed coal for their own use, and William was directed to pay Nancy Marshall $200.

These provisions describe a household economy in which land, fuel, shelter and care mattered alongside cash. Margaret reportedly died in April 1849, only a few months after James. Their descendants continued the story through the Marshall, Dally, Speer, Russell, Chambers, Robinson and Cummins families.

Family Timeline

Reported family dates, dated records and later recollections are distinguished below.
DateEvent & Evidence
ABOUT
1770–1771
James’s approximate birthAccounts place his birth in Ireland or Pennsylvania; his birthplace remains unresolved.AGAF, p. 417; Wiley, pp. 613–614; supplied profile and reported gravestone age.
15 Jan. 1796 Reported marriage to Margaret DixonThe principal reported date is 15 January. The accessible transcription of the 1891 biography reads 5 January and still needs comparison with the printed page.AGAF, p. 417, and supplied profiles; differing Wiley transcription, pp. 613–614.
ABOUT
1796–1798
Establishing the family farmLater histories place their settlement in the country that became Armstrong County within this approximate period.AGAF, p. 417; Wiley, pp. 613–614; Smith, p. 280. These are later accounts, not a dated patent.
1796–1819 Ten reported childrenThe family list runs from Jane, born in 1796, to the younger James, born in 1819. An earlier James is reported to have died in infancy.AGAF, pp. 417–420; individual profiles. The family sketches retain conflicting dates and initials.
5 Mar. 1811 James conveys his interest to WilliamThe deed names John Guthrie as James’s father and William as his brother. Margaret releases her dower interest on the same date.Westmoreland Deed Book 9, pp. 276–277; recorded-copy images inspected in the completed deed review.
4 May 1811 The deed is recordedRecording follows the execution and acknowledgment of 5 March. These are separate events.Westmoreland Deed Book 9, pp. 276–277; recording endorsement.
War of 1812 Reported military serviceFamily biographies report service and a later pension. An original service and pension file has not been securely identified for this James.AGAF and the 1891 biography; attributed narrative, not a newly verified military record.
29 Mar. 1845 Joseph’s reported deathThe profile supplies this date. AGAF describes Joseph and his horse drowning but gives no exact death date.Individual profile S091; AGAF, p. 417. The source for the precise date remains unresolved.
5 Dec. 1848 James signs his willThe typed abstract preserves provisions for Margaret and several children. Joseph appears in the description of a previous conveyance; Andrew receives that bequest.Laurence R. Guthrie’s typed notes, PDF p. 88 / manuscript p. 81, citing Armstrong Wills 1:376. Original will not yet inspected.
16 Dec. 1848 James’s reported deathJames is reported to have died in Kiskiminetas Township and to have been buried at Beulah Church Cemetery.Supplied profile and compiled family accounts; the will’s date does not independently establish the death date.
April 1849 Margaret’s reported deathMargaret reportedly died a few months after James and is also associated with Beulah Church Cemetery.AGAF, p. 417, and supplied profile. No exact day is established here.

Historical narrative combines the previously inspected 1811 deed with AGAF, county biographies, the uploaded profiles and Laurence Guthrie’s later will abstract. The original 1848 will remains a priority for comparison.

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The 1811 Deed — Father, Brother and Wife Explicitly Named

Recorded-copy images inspected in the completed deed review: Westmoreland County, Deed Book 9, pages 276–277, conventionally cited as 9:277. James’s conveyance, Margaret’s dower release and their acknowledgment are dated 5 March 1811; recording was 4 May 1811.

“John Guthrie Esqr my father” … “my brother William”

James conveyed his interest for $540. Margaret is explicitly his wife. The instrument does not name the brothers’ mother or give Margaret’s maiden surname. Samuel’s appearance as a witness does not state his relationship.

The deed recites a prior instrument of 19 October 1795 and identifies Book 2:562. That earlier instrument itself is dated 9 October 1795. The ten-day difference is in the recorded sources and must not be silently corrected.

AGAF, appendix page 721, note 426, prints an abstract of this deed. It is supporting access to the same transaction, not an independent family event or the Penn-heirs receipt mentioned in the biography.

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James’s Will — 5 December 1848

Typed abstract inspected, original will not yet inspected: Laurence R. Guthrie, Some County Records in the U.S.A. of Guthrie and Other Families, PDF page 88, manuscript page 81, upper entry. It cites Armstrong County Will Book 1, page 376 and identifies the testator as James Guthrie of Kiskiminetas Township.

  • Margaret: her room, or another that she thought would add to her comfort.
  • Andrew D.: the home tract and an undivided interest in 221 acres in Washington and Armstrong Townships, Indiana County; Andrew was to pay Eliza M Laughlin, now Eliza Henderson, $100 one year after James’s death.
  • William: an undivided half interest in a Mahoning Creek tract in Armstrong County; directed to pay Nancy Marshall $200.
  • Samuel and Polly: use of coal from the bank for their own needs.
  • James: to live with Andrew, who was to provide for him for life.
  • Executors: Samuel, William and Andrew D. Guthrie.
  • Witnesses: James Young, Henry Brown and Christopher Fennel, the last signing by mark in the abstract.

The signature date is 5 December 1848. The abstract does not supply a probate date or independently establish the reported death on 16 December. The estate locator is carried in the project as estate 80; the profile’s notation appears as “#807” and needs comparison with the actual docket.

The lower entry on the same notes page concerns a different James Guthrie of Apollo, Will Book 4:33, dated 1879 and recorded in 1883. His wife is also Margaret. Keep the two estates separate.

Why Joseph’s Name Does Not Establish Survival to 1848

The relevant passage in Laurence Guthrie’s typed abstract reads:

“I give to my son, Andrew D. Guthrie the tract of land I now live on, also an undivided part of 221 acres in Washington and Armstrong townships, Indiana Co., conveyed by deed from Wm C. Mcknight to son Joseph. Andrew agreeing to pay Eliza M Laughlin, now Eliza Henderson, $100.00, one year from my decease”

Line breaks are joined here. This is a transcription of the typed abstract, not a certified transcription of the original will.

Andrew receives the bequest; Joseph appears in the description of an earlier conveyance. Joseph is not expressly called deceased, but neither is he identified as a living beneficiary. The tree’s short list of names obscures that distinction.

The next comparison should join the original will and estate packet to the Indiana County deed from Wm C. McKnight and to the source for Joseph’s reported death on 29 March 1845. Eliza Henderson’s relationship also remains unstated.

AGAF, County Histories and Dates That Still Differ
  • James’s birth: AGAF gives about 1770, Londonderry; the 1891 biography gives Beaver Run, 1770–1775. The profile uses 1771 based on a reported gravestone age. None of these is an inspected birth record.
  • Margaret’s birth: the profile gives 1779 in Pennsylvania; Smith’s 1883 account calls both spouses Irish-born.
  • Marriage: AGAF and the profiles give 15 January 1796. The accessible transcription of the 1891 biography reads 5 January; the printed scan and an original marriage source should be compared.
  • Land: 300 versus 336 acres, and settlement about 1796 versus 1798. Do not turn these approximate narratives into a precise patent date.
  • Jane and John: BEFORE 1848 / BEFORE 1849 notes based on will omission remain unproved. Laurence’s later question about John’s placement remains open.
  • Samuel: 11 March 1801 is the principal date; retain 1 March as an alternate. Do not merge him with his cousin born in 1805.
  • William: 14 March in the profile versus 30 March in AGAF. His children and their maternal assignments require source-by-source comparison with AGAF’s differing list.
  • Margaret Chambers: CIRCA 1822 and BEFORE 1856 are the individual profile’s qualifiers. William’s remarriage supplies a latest-marriage boundary for the inference, not her precise death date.
  • Andrew’s children: five enumerated in AGAF and the 1891 account; six reported in 1883. No name, sex or birth order is invented for the additional child.
  • Younger James: 10 March 1819 in the individual profile and AGAF; initial S. versus L. unresolved. Household placement alone establishes neither a diagnosis nor a marriage.
Census, Church, Cemetery and Military Leads

James’s profile attaches census entries for 1800 through 1840, but also notes two James Guthrie households in Buffalo in 1800. Those early head-of-household schedules need correlation with age categories, neighbors and land. They do not identify each resident by name.

The descendant profiles supply useful later household summaries, including Samuel in Pennsylvania and Illinois, Mary Dally in Pennsylvania and Ohio, and Andrew’s household with his brother James. These are research summaries; the original census images were not re-examined for this draft.

Saltsburg Presbyterian records, Beulah and Glade Run inscriptions, the Penn-heirs receipt and the original patent chain remain valuable targets. The 1891 account and AGAF report War of 1812 service and a pension, but no securely identified military file is cited here. A same-name service index alone would not settle identity.

William’s profile includes a 1876 map entry after his reported 1875 death. A publication or map date should not be treated automatically as evidence that he was living then.

DNA & Descendant Research

The reviewed project material identifies Guthrie paternal-line participants through Samuel Dixon Guthrie and Hannah Speer and through William Guthrie and Margaret Chambers. These reported pedigrees connect James’s family to the Branch G research. The table carries forward existing participation; it does not announce a new result or a new ancestral connection.

Coverage in the reviewed project material. “Not identified” is not a claim that nobody in the line has tested.
Child’s LineY-DNABig-YAutosomal
Jane HendersonNo Guthrie paternal route through JaneNo test identifiedNo participant identified
Agnes “Nancy” MarshallSons follow the Marshall paternal lineNo test identifiedNo participant identified
Samuel Dixon GuthrieB865886; through Hannah Speer’s familyStatus not established hereNo separate kit verified here
John GuthrieDescendant route unresolvedNo test identifiedNo participant identified
Mary “Polly” DallySons follow the Dally paternal lineNo test identifiedNo participant identified
James, infantNo descendantsNo descendant routeNo descendant route
William Guthrie315905; through Margaret Chambers’s familyStatus not established here315905
Andrew Dixon GuthrieNo participant identifiedNo test identifiedNo participant identified
Joseph R. GuthrieNo established descendant routeNo test identifiedNo participant identified
James S. GuthrieNo established descendant routeNo test identifiedNo participant identified

The proposed connection involving Andrew M. Guthrie and Susan Frain remains a separate research question. The “Merging Lineages” article explores a possible placement; it does not establish that Andrew was Samuel’s son. Likewise, the Branch G genetic association of William Guthrie and Martha Rogers does not place their family under James and Margaret without documentary evidence.

Sources & Further Reading

  • Recorded deed: Westmoreland County Deed Book 9, pp. 276–277, executed 5 March 1811, recorded 4 May 1811; FamilySearch DGS 008036030, images 208–209. Record images inspected in the completed deed review.
  • Typed will abstract: Laurence R. Guthrie, Some County Records in the U.S.A. of Guthrie and Other Families, uploaded 402-page volume, PDF p. 88 / manuscript p. 81, citing Armstrong Wills 1:376. Later John-placement question: PDF p. 125 / revision p. 20 / manuscript p. 110. Both images rechecked for this page.
  • Laurence R. Guthrie, American Guthrie and Allied Families (1933), printed pp. 417–420; appendix p. 721, note 426. Compiled genealogy and published deed abstract; these pages were inspected.
  • Samuel T. Wiley, editor, Biographical and Historical Cyclopedia of Indiana and Armstrong Counties, Pennsylvania (1891), pp. 613–614, grandson William’s biography. Accessible full-text transcription reviewed; distinguish it from an original family record.
  • Robert Walter Smith, History of Armstrong County, Pennsylvania (1883), p. 280, “Guthrie Family,” PA-Roots transcription. Supplies the 336-acre account and six-child statement for Andrew’s family.
  • Guthrie Research Tree, uploaded individual profiles reviewed as S078–S092; legacy James Guthrie page, for the fuller descendant reconstruction. Profile assertions and attached source titles are distinguished from records actually read.
Most Wanted Documents & Research Questions
  • The 1848 estate: original Will Book 1:376, the correct estate packet number, probate and distribution papers, and the McKnight-to-Joseph deed in Indiana County.
  • Joseph’s death: the underlying record for 29 March 1845 and any contemporary account of the drowning.
  • James and Margaret’s beginnings: marriage evidence, a readable gravestone or early inscription copy, Margaret’s Dixon parentage records, and evidence resolving their birthplaces.
  • The farm: patent, survey, grantor chain and the Penn-heirs receipt reportedly kept by William Cummins Guthrie.
  • Unfinished child lines: Jane Henderson’s household; John’s possible placement in Laurence’s later notes; William’s two families; and the additional child reported for Andrew and Margaret.
  • Military identity: the particular War of 1812 service and pension files behind the biographies.

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