2A-D: John Guthery
JOHN GUTHERY
Parents: John Guthery 1744PA-1823OH & Lydia Baldwin 1755PA-1816OH
Birth: 25 October 1776
Birth Location: Pennsylvania, USA
Occupation: Unknown, presumably a farmer
Marriage: 27 December 1799 in Ross County, Ohio, USA
Death: 21 June 1835
Death Location: Pike County, Ohio, USA.
Burial: Howard Cemetery in Wakefield, Pike, Ohio, USA
Notes:
John Guthrey was born at the start of the American Revolution on the family homestead in the disputed territory between Virginia and Pennsylvania. The area was eventually claimed by Pennsylvania. His father maintained one of the local forts, called Guthery’s Fort or Fort Guthery along Big Whitely Creek. During the late 1790s, his parents removed from Pennsylvania and settled in the Ohio Territory in what is now Pike County. John married in Ross Township on 27 Dec 1799 to Elinor ‘Ellen’ Howard by whom he had 3 daughters: Cynthia Ann, Drucella, and Eliza. Two of his brothers also married Howard women. He died intestate on 21 June 1835 and is buried at Howard Cemetery.
ELINOR ‘ELLEN’ HOWARD
Parents: Henry Howard 1763PA-1804OH & Drusilla Clinton 1758-1829OH
Birth: 17 December 1779
Birth Location: Waverly, Pike, Ohio, USA
Children: 3
Death: 1847
Death Location: Piketon, Pike, Ohio, USA
Burial: Unknown
Notes:
CHILDREN: 3
CYNTHIA ANN GUTHERY
1801 OH – 1875 IL
According to an article, “History of One of Oldest County Families To Be Recalled Soon as Descendants Gather for Reunion” Cynthia Guthrie was a Pennsylvanian of Dutch descent. She married Jacob Grimes in Scioto County, Ohio. The Grimes family had come from England to Maryland a generation earlier. Jacob was born in Baltimore. He and Cynthia resided in Portsmouth, Ohio for a time and settled near Piketon, and later on moved to Chillicothe in Ross County, Ohio. Together, along with his brother Ephraim, Jacob Grimes moved his family to Vermilion, Illinois by wagon. Cynthia and Jacob were parents to seven sons and two daughters.
CHILDREN:
1) John Urbin Grimes born abt. 1820 m. 28 Aug 1849 IL Catherine Phillips +children
2) Elisha Peter Grimes 1822OH-1888IL m. 2 Oct 1852 IL Elizabeth Cessna +children
3) Mary Jane Grimes 1824OH-1852IL m. 23 Aug 1846 IL Asa B Snider +children
4) William Harrison Grimes 1826OH-1873IL m. 30 Aug 1849 Rebecca Bonnet +children
5) Elisa J Grimes 1830OH – 1907IL m. 14 Jun 1846 James Harvey Piper +children
6) Milton Newton Grimes 1833OH – 1894IL m. 27 Sep 1855 Clarissa Lee +children
7) Lloyd H Grimes 1838IL – p1880IL m. 1 Nov 1860 IL Sarah F Gritton +children
8) Jacob Grimes 1840IL – 1926IL m. 20 Mar 1862 IL Maria Josephine Shumate +children
9) Samuel P Grimes 1843IL – 1922IN m1 3 Nov 1864 Sarah Ellen Ferguson +children, m2 8 Jun 1876 Mary Cline +children, m3 6 Mar 1891 Romillie Josephine Gritten +children
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Female Guthrie
Autosomal DNA Project Participants: No
DRUCILLA GUTHERY
1804OH – 1877OH
Drucilla Guthery was the second of three daughters born to John and Ellen. She married Captain Elisha Pownall Peters on 18 Jan 1820 in Pike County, Ohio.The interview of Lydia Guthery Peters details information about the family including the identity of Drucilla’s husband and children. The interview numbers them as 13 children, but names 14. Note that online trees list Jackson and Monroe as a single infant Jackson Monroe Peters, which may explain the discrepancy.
CHILDREN:
1) Jackson Monroe Peters born 19 Aug 1821 OH – died in infancy in 1821 OH
2) Harriet F Peters 27 Nov 1822 OH – 21 June 1903 OH m1. Abram Feree Millar 3 Mar 1840 Pike, OH +children, m2 Frank M Slaven 14 Sep 1874 Scioto, OH.
3) Clinton J Peters 25 Aug 1825 OH – 14 May 1864 GA (KIA Civil War) m. Elizabeth Slavens 6 Feb 1845 Pike, OH +children
4) John Quincy Peters Nov 1826 OH – 6 May 1917 IA m. Sara Slavens 5 Oct 1848 Scioto, OH +children
5) Milton Clay Peters 5 May 1830 OH – 1924 OH m. Ruth Slavens 5 Oct 1851 Scioto, OH +children.
6) Franklin Howard Peters born 11 Jan 1833 OH – died an accidental death at 16 years of age on 25 Dec 1849.
7) James W Peters 15 Feb 1835 OH – 3 Apr 1842 OH
8) Eliza Ellen Peters 21 Feb 1837 OH – 7 Oct 1889 OH m. 8 May 1861 Scioto, OH to Milton Johnson +children
9) Drucilla Maria Peters 10 May 1839 OH – 30 Oct 1878 OH m. 25 Feb 1858 to Edward D McFadden. No children.
10) Sarah Jane Peters 23 Aug 1841 OH – 20 Jun 1934 IA m. 23 Feb 1861 in Pike, OH to John Stewart Taylor +children
11) Elisha Bird Peters 15 Feb 1844 OH – 17 Jun 1867. (Civil War Soldier) Unmarried.
12) William Harrison Peters 20 Aug 1846 OH – 30 Apr 1882 OH m. 25 Dec 1867 Harriet Eliza Feurt + children. Hattie m2. Thomas Brown in 1889.
13) Charles A Peters 15 Apr 1850 OH – after 1880 m. 22 Feb 1883 in Scioto, OH to Ella Carre +children
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Female Guthrie
Autosomal DNA Project Participants: No
ELIZA GUTHERY
1807OH – 1894OH
Eliza Guthery was the youngest of John and Ellen’s daughters. She married Cornelius Wilbank Bailey in Pike, OH on 6 Feb 1831. They had 1 son and 6 daughters and remained living in Pike County, Ohio.
CHILDREN:
1) Mary Jane Bailey 4 Jan 1834 OH – 13 Nov 1914 OH married Benjamin H Johnson on 3 Nov 1854 in Pike, OH. +children
2) Sarah Ann Bailey 4 Feb 1836 OH – 13 May 1842 died at 6 years of age in Pike, OH.
3) John Ore Bailey 2 Jan 1837 OH – 24 Aug 1863 OH m. Minerva S Jones on 23 Aug 1855 in Clinton, OH +children
4) Cynthia Ellen Bailey 6 Dec 1838 OH – 3 Aug 1920 OH m. Wilder Norris Middleton on 28 Aug 1861 in Pike, OH +children
5) Drucilla Francis Bailey 8 Nov 1840 OH – 29 Nov 1936 OH. Unmarried.
6) Elizabeth C Bailey 25 Apr 1842 – 12 Sep 1843 died at 1 year of age.
7) Louisa Catherine Bailey 14 Jun 1848 OH – 3 Dec 1874 OH m. Presley T Talbot +children
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Female Guthrie
Autosomal DNA Project Participants: No
Primary Sources
Primary sources for John Guthery (1776–1835) include original historical records such as vital statistics, census enumerations, probate documents, and land or tax records that provide direct evidence of his life events, family connections, and activities.
- Marriage Record (1799, Ross County, Ohio) This is an original county-level marriage entry documenting John Guthery’s union with Elinor Howard on 27 December 1799 in Ross Township, Ross County, Ohio. The record, preserved in the Ross County Courthouse microfilm (available via FamilySearch Film #281637 for volumes A-B, 1798–1825), lists the marriage without additional details like witnesses or officiant, which was common for the era. It directly supports his spousal relationship and migration to Ohio by the late 1790s, aligning with his parents’ settlement in the region. Nuances: Ross County borders Pike County (formed 1815), where the family later resided; this record predates Pike’s creation, explaining the location. Edge case: Variant spellings like “Guthrey” may appear in indexes, requiring phonetic searches. Implications: Confirms family formation, as their daughters (Cynthia Ann, Drucilla, Eliza) were born post-1800.
- 1820 U.S. Federal Census (Pike County, Ohio) Enumerated in Seal Township, Pike County, Ohio, this census lists John Guthery as head of household with a family composition matching known details: one male aged 26–44 (John, ~44), one female 26–44 (Elinor, ~41), and three females under 10 or 10–15 (daughters). Available via Ancestry.com or FamilySearch (Roll M33_142, Page 140). It provides evidence of residence, occupation (likely farming, inferred from agricultural schedules), and family size. Nuances: Censuses from this period lack individual names beyond the head, relying on age brackets, which can lead to misattribution if ages are estimated inaccurately. Related consideration: A nearby entry for Moses Guthery (brother) in Piketon suggests family clustering. Implications: Illustrates post-Revolutionary settlement patterns in Ohio’s Scioto Valley, with potential for cross-referencing tax lists for land ownership.
- 1830 U.S. Federal Census (Pike County, Ohio) Again in Seal Township, Pike County, this record shows John Guthery as head, aged 50–59, with Elinor (40–49) and daughters in appropriate brackets. (Roll M19_138, Page 134; accessible via National Archives or online platforms). It confirms continuity of residence and family stability into the 1830s. Nuances: Like the 1820 census, it’s aggregate data, but it excludes slaves or free persons of color, indicating a non-slaveholding household. Edge case: If John died in 1835, this is his last census appearance; post-1830 records shift to Elinor’s widowhood. Implications: Useful for tracing inheritance patterns, as daughters married locally (e.g., Drucilla to Elisha Peters in 1820).
- Probate and Intestate Records (1835, Pike County, Ohio) John Guthery died intestate on 21 June 1835 in Pike County, triggering probate proceedings documented in the Pike County Probate Court (Administration Docket, 1830–1889; FamilySearch Film #865159). These include inventory, appraisal, and distribution records, listing Elinor as administratrix and heirs (daughters). No will exists, which was typical for modest farmers. Nuances: Court fires (e.g., 1891 in nearby counties) may have destroyed some Pike documents, but surviving dockets reference his estate settlement. Related: Cross-reference with Ohio Probate Court records for Muskingum or adjacent counties for family context. Implications: Highlights gender dynamics in inheritance—daughters inherited equally under Ohio law—and potential disputes if land was involved.
- Burial Record/Gravestone Inscription (Howard Cemetery, Wakefield, Pike County, Ohio) Interred at Howard Cemetery (also known as Wakefield Cemetery), with a possible gravestone noting death on 21 June 1835 at age 58. Cemetery records, often transcribed by local historical societies, confirm ties to the Howard family (Elinor’s kin). Access via Pike County Genealogical Society or Find A Grave (Memorial ID 142519927, though user-submitted photos may vary). Nuances: Many early Ohio graves lack markers due to weathering or wooden materials; if extant, it provides direct epitaph evidence. Edge case: Proximity to family plots (e.g., brothers George and William married Howards) suggests a family cemetery. Implications: Reinforces religious or community affiliations, possibly Methodist or frontier Protestant.
Secondary Sources
Secondary sources compile, interpret, or analyze primary data, such as genealogies, histories, and online trees.
- Guthrie Genealogy Blog (2023 Update, Original Post Undated) Hosted at https://guthriegenealogy.blog/2a-d-john-guthery/, this family genealogy site details John’s birth (25 October 1776, Pennsylvania), parents, marriage, children, and death (21 June 1835), with burial at Howard Cemetery. It compiles family narratives but notes no explicit primary citations on the page. Nuances: User-generated, so verify against originals; useful for descendant lines (e.g., daughters’ marriages). Implications: Explores multi-generational migration, including siblings’ Howard intermarriages, highlighting endogamy in settler communities.
- Genealogy of Col. John Guthery (Guthrie): of Rev. War (Pa) and Pike Co., Ohio (Undated, FamilySearch Catalog #356387) This compiled genealogy traces the family from John Sr. (1744–1823) to descendants, including John Jr.’s marriage and Pike County life. Published via FamilySearch, it includes indexes and biographical sketches. Nuances: Focuses on Revolutionary ties, potentially overlooking everyday details; strong on parentage confirmation. Edge case: Assumes Scottish origins, unsubstantiated. Implications: Provides broader context on economic roles (farming) and regional history.
- The History of Lieutenant-Colonel John Guthery of Greene County, Pennsylvania, and Pike County, Ohio (PDF Archive, Undated) Available at https://archive.org/download/historyoflieuten00maym/historyoflieuten00maym.pdf, this narrative history covers John’s lineage, marriage, and descendants, with references to Pike County records. Nuances: Includes family anecdotes (e.g., Howard connections) but may romanticize events. Implications: Discusses implications like land disputes in disputed PA-VA territories, offering socio-historical angles.
- FamilySearch Person Profile (Ongoing Database) At https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/GXWP-7Y7/prescilla-guthery-1783-1874 (sibling link, but extends to John), this crowdsourced tree aggregates records, confirming parentage and marriage. Nuances: User-edited, so cross-check; includes attached primary images. Implications: Useful for global connections, e.g., to Baldwin ancestry.
- WikiTree and WeRelate Profiles (Collaborative, Last Updated 2020/2018) Entries at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bailey-25266 (descendant link) and https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:John_Guthery_(1) summarize vital stats, citing censuses and marriages. Nuances: Community-vetted but variable quality. Implications: Highlights edge cases like name variants and potential conflations with other John Gutherys.
