Daniel Guthrie appears in Laurence R. Guthrie’s presumptive family, but not in the five-name Danbury baptismal list. His proposed identification with the Pennsylvania settler and the father of Chauncey Guthrie, husband of Fanny Salisbury, needs further evidence. A similar Chauncey placement occurs elsewhere in Branch F.

Abigail Guthrie, wife of Thomas Morehouse, is a proposed daughter. Her reported age at death suggests birth about 1751, and the name James Knapp Morehouse supplies a family-naming clue. Neither establishes her parents. The 1773 marriage date is reported with conflicting January and June readings.

A proposed son John must not be filled with John Guthrie, born 5 April 1774, husband of Olive Wilson. That man is treated in the Ephraim Guthrie and Thankful Stone family study. His earlier placement here is a probable identity error.

Abel Guthrie and Olive Fuller: the descendant account follows Myron, Oliver, Florilla, and Hervey F. Guthrie. Associated marriages include Myron to Olive Baldwin and Dyantha Witheril, Florilla to Justus Durkee, and Hervey to Philena Witherel. These family branches provide practical starting points for finding a documented paternal-line tester.

Abraham’s children: a February 1833 Oneida County surrogate’s certificate in Christian’s bounty-land file names six children left by the deceased Abraham: Simeon Guthrie; Esther, wife of Frederick Kellogg; Sally, wife of Oliver Combs; Polly; Abigail; and Eliza. Polly’s husband is read as Erastus McAdams and Abigail’s as Stephen Mix. Eliza’s husband is named Williams, but his given name and middle initial require a clearer reading.

This certificate strengthens several relationships that had been tentative in the family account. The eight-name working roster also includes Warren and Riley; neither appears in the 1833 certificate. Their placements need reconciliation. Abraham’s 1820 declaration reported seven children without naming them, so the two records should not be treated as identical lists.

The Kellogg Bible transcription records Frederick Kellogg’s marriage to Hester Guthrie on 5 August 1805. The 1833 certificate calls his wife Esther. The two forms should be compared as referring to the same proposed woman; 1805 is her marriage year, not her birth year. Frederick also supplied an 1819 affidavit in Abraham’s pension file.

Abigail Guthrie and Thomas Morehouse: Jerusha, Archibald, Ira, and James Knapp Morehouse remain an associated descendant group to investigate. Their placement should be supported with family, land, probate, or vital records before the proposed Guthrie parentage is treated as settled.

James’s later family: the proposed link to a younger James who married Marcia Way and Mary Goodwin also needs reconciliation with the competing adult identities. It is not used here to establish a descendant line.

John III’s father called him the eldest son and placed him in Kent in 1756. The five-shilling legacy was in addition to provision already made; it was not a disinheritance.

The Danbury abstract is also the source of the reported 10 August 1775 death. A separate abbreviated entry concerning a widow and a child has been expanded into a death for Patience, but its meaning and its 1773/1775 date readings require examination of the complete entry. No precise death date is assigned to her here.

• Frederic W. Bailey, Early Connecticut Marriages, Washington section, printed page 95: John Guthrie and Patience Knap, 10 May 1750. This is a published transcription of the Judea church record.
• John Guthrie’s father’s will, 29 June 1756: identifies his eldest son John of Kent and acknowledges earlier provision. See the Family Hub’s probate discussion for the register reference and continuing estate proceedings.
• Connecticut Church Record Abstracts: Danbury First Congregational Church: the source linked by the family study for admission, baptisms, and deaths. Ancestry access may be required.

The church recommendation has been rendered as coming from Christ Church in East Greenwich, Kent. The wording and intended location need verification; it should not automatically be expanded to “Kent, Connecticut.” The baptismal abstract names John as father but does not name Patience.

Twenty-six supplied images from Christian Guthrie / Gutrick’s bounty-land file, warrant 1915–100, have been reviewed directly. The earlier family study also links the file on Fold3.

Abel’s affidavit, 18 September 1832: Abel of Augusta, Oneida County, gave his age as 67. He named Christian as his brother, said Christian had left no issue, and identified himself, Abraham, and James as the known surviving heirs. He also referred to three other deceased siblings, one without issue, with descendants of the others unheard from for more than twenty years. He did not name those three.

The soldier’s identity: Abel explained the forms Guthrie, Gutrick, and Goodrich and connected his brother to the soldier returned as Christian Gutrick in Captain Copp’s company. Asahel Jaqua’s affidavit, sworn in January 1831, described knowing Christian and finding him among the dead after the Battle of Monmouth. This is stronger evidence than a later family tradition alone. The file also refers to a return showing death on 1 July 1778; the two dates should remain distinguished.

Independent recollection of the earlier hearing: Isaac Gere’s affidavit of 14 January 1831 recalls the 1824 committee’s examination of John McLean and Abraham. Gere reported that McLean recognized Abraham as Christian’s brother, and that Abraham also testified to his relationships with Christian and Abel. This preserves evidence from the earlier hearing, although it is Gere’s recollection rather than the original testimony.

The land dispute: the legislative papers identify lot 90 in Milton, allotted under the name Gutrick and later taken into state ownership. A copied 1824 committee report accepted the brother relationship and recommended relief. The later papers concern how to provide for identified and still-unlocated heirs; they should not be reduced to a claim that every relative received a completed grant.

Parentage: these papers establish a sibling group, but the supplied pages do not name their father or mother. Correlation with the Danbury baptismal family remains necessary.

The Oneida County surrogate’s certificate is headed 6 February 1833 and executed 5 February 1833. It identifies Abel, James, and Abraham as brothers and says the deceased Abraham left six named children: Simeon; Esther, wife of Frederick Kellogg; Sally, wife of Oliver Combs; Polly; Abigail; and Eliza. The named persons are described as Christian’s heirs. The children’s mother is not named.

A date conflict remains: the Kellogg Bible transcription records Abraham’s death as 12 December 1830. Yet Abel’s signed September 1832 affidavit describes Abraham as living, severely affected by palsy and unable to supply an affidavit. The February 1833 certificate then calls him deceased. These records now require reconciliation; no exact death date is treated as settled here.

The certificate’s six children must also be compared with the seven unnamed children Abraham reported in 1820 and the eight-name roster in the later family account. In particular, the Bible’s Warren and Riley entries should not be assigned to Abraham solely because they share the surname.

Fifteen supplied images from Abraham Guthrie’s Revolutionary pension file, S44888, have been reviewed directly. The file also carries pension certificate number 13,535.

13 May 1818, Seneca County: Abraham described himself as 58 and resident in Junius. He said he enlisted at Washington, Connecticut, in February 1776, serving under Captain Eleazer Curtis in Colonel Van Schaick’s New York regiment. He also described later service and said his discharge papers had burned in his house at Black Creek, New York. These are his retrospective statements; they do not give a birth date or birthplace.

Supporting testimony, 1818–1819: Oliver Swan described knowing Abraham during his service. Joseph Cary and Truman Beeman supplied further statements about the 1776 service. Frederick Kellogg testified in July 1819 that Abraham had lived in Seneca County in May 1818 and now lived in Oneida County. He described Abraham’s limited property and need for support without identifying a kinship.

8 September 1820, Oneida County: Abraham, aged 60, lived in Whitestown and identified his occupation as blacksmith. He reported an unnamed wife aged 56 and seven unnamed children. One child housed and helped support him; he did not contribute to the support of the others. His schedule of furniture and tools was valued at twelve dollars.

What remains open: the supplied pension pages name neither Abraham’s parents nor his siblings, and do not identify his wife as Kezia or list his children; the separate bounty-land file supplies the sibling and child relationships discussed above. His stated ages suggest birth about 1760 and conflict with the 9 January 1763 birth assigned in the earlier family account. The 1818 account gives a February enlistment and discharge at Fort Miller; the 1820 declaration gives January and a December discharge, while witnesses refer to Saratoga. Preserve these variations rather than silently combining them into one precise service narrative.

A published Fifth Connecticut Regiment roster transcription lists John Guthrie in Captain Noble Benedict’s Sixth Company, enlisted 12 May 1775 and discharged 13 December 1775.

The enlistment date resembles the service claim attached to John III, but the December discharge conflicts with his reported 10 August 1775 death. The soldier’s identity and underlying roll need examination. This page does not assign that service to John III as a settled fact.

The Kellogg Family Bible transcription identifies its origin with Frederick Kellogg of New Hartford, Oneida County. It records Frederick’s marriage to Hester Guthrie on 5 August 1805, and deaths for Riley, Keziah, Abraham, and Warren Guthrie.

These entries are useful independent details to compare with the descendant account. The transcription does not itself label every Guthrie named there as a child of Abraham and Kezia, or connect Abraham to John III. It also does not support copying 1805 as Hester’s birth year.

Laurence R. Guthrie’s American Guthrie and Allied Families (1933), pages 80–81, labels the proposed family as presumptive and supplies leads for the children’s later lives, including the account associated with Joel. Compare its placements with the church entries and military files.

Dunn & Dunn’s Records of the Guthrie Family (1898) supplies the wider Branch F account. The Family Hub preserves the founding couple’s evidence and the separate treatment of the earlier immigrant tradition.