1A-C: John Steele Guthrie

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Guthrie Family Group 1A · Branch C · The Next Generation

John Steele Guthrie & Joanna J. Bartley

Armstrong County, Pennsylvania · Mendocino County, California

John Steele Guthrie, eldest son of William Guthrie and Jane Steele, was born in Perry Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, about 1843–1844. He and Joanna J. Bartley built their family in Armstrong County and were parents of eleven children.

Their story follows a Pennsylvania farming household into the oil fields, railroad towns, and growing communities where their descendants made new homes. John’s later move to California adds another western chapter to this family’s history. Explore their children and grandchildren, the records they left, and the stories preserved in contemporary newspapers.

The Family at a Glance

John Steele Guthrie

Parents
William Guthrie & Jane Steele
Their second child and eldest son.
Birth
November 1843 or 1844
Perry Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania. Reported birthday: 15 November; the year remains disputed.
Occupation
Farmer; later a lumberyard night watchman.
Family Home & Later Years
Perry Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania. Moved to California for his health about 1908.
Death
23 November 1911
Mendocino County, California. Supported by the California death index and the 6 December obituary; another notice gives 24 November.
Burial
Returned to Pennsylvania. Cemetery unresolved: his obituary names Guthrie Cemetery; Find a Grave lists Kittanning Cemetery.

Joanna J. Bartley

Parents
William Francis Adams Bartley & Ellen Fleming
Birth
30 January 1842 — reported date
Perry Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania. Her death certificate records age eighty-five but leaves the birth date blank.
Family Home
Perry Township and Queenstown, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania.
Later Years
Widowed in 1911, Joanna lived with family. Her obituary places her final home with daughter Josephine Shakley in Kittanning.
Death
18 September 1927
Kittanning, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, aged eighty-five.
Burial
21 September 1927
Kittanning Cemetery, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania

Estimated Marriage: About 1863 · Pennsylvania

John was still a young child when his father died in California in 1850. His mother’s marriage to George Knox in 1856 brought seven younger Knox half-siblings into the family. John and Joanna established their own household in Armstrong County. Their family grew to include eleven children—six daughters and five sons, born between 1864 and 1882.

In later life, John sought a healthier climate in California. Their son Edward brought his remains home for burial in 1911. Joanna lived another sixteen years; her 1927 obituary names nine surviving children and reports thirty-one grandchildren and fourteen great-grandchildren. Through farming, oil drilling, railway work, and other occupations, their descendants carried the family’s connections well beyond western Pennsylvania.

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Child Birth Marriage & Later Life
Flora Ellen Guthrie 24 May 1864 Married Grant Andrew Rhines on 6 May 1889. Seven children are identified, including two whose names remain unknown. Died 25 April 1932 in New Kensington, Pennsylvania.
Anna E. Guthrie 1865 Died 31 March 1865, reported aged ten days. Buried at the Steel-Guthrie Cemetery in Armstrong County. No descendants.
William Fleming Guthrie 1 September
1865 or 1867
Married Emma “Carolyn” Ackman on 31 December 1894. An oil-drilling contractor; nine children, six reaching adulthood. They later lived apart; a reported divorce remains unconfirmed. Died 7 August 1936 in Houston, Washington County, Pennsylvania.
Charles Wesley Guthrie 20 August 1869 Married Margaret Alice Gilbert on 12 July 1898. An oil driller and contractor; two daughters. Settled in Lawrenceville, Illinois, where he died 8 June 1930.
Edward J. Guthrie Indexed as Edwin J. in the 1880 census About 1870–1871Estimated from census and death-certificate ages Married Leila Gould in June 1928. A Lawrenceville, Illinois, contractor; died 28 June 1928 in Kittanning, aged fifty-seven, while visiting his sister Josephine during their honeymoon. No children are known.
George Washington Guthrie 5 April 1873 Married Edna L. Moellendick. An oil driller whose work took him to West Virginia and Ohio; three daughters. Died 4 April 1941 in Columbus, Ohio.
Minnie May Guthrie Also recorded as Minnie Mae 27 May 1875Reported date Married James Merle Simpson on 19 November 1894 at Petrolia, Armstrong County, with her father’s written consent. They had two sons and lived in Connellsville and the Pittsburgh area. Died 1 January 1953.
John Walker Guthrie 9 November 1877Birth year also given as 1878 Married Carry “Carrie” Bell Orr on 13 February 1906. Three children. Oil-field employment took the family through several states before they settled in Michigan. Died in 1955.
Margaret Josephine Guthrie Known as Josephine 29 October 1879 Married Albert Smith Shakley on 11 June 1902. They raised two sons in Kittanning; a third son was stillborn in 1919. A resident of Manorville, she died 25 July 1963 in West Kittanning and was buried at Kittanning Cemetery on 28 July.
Violet E. Guthrie 4 January 1881 Died 9 January 1881, aged five days. Buried at the Steel-Guthrie Cemetery in Armstrong County. No descendants.
Lillian Mary Guthrie “Lillie” 19 February 1882 Married Ralph Klair “Mike” English on 14 April 1904 in Jamestown, New York. Seven children; their family lived in Jefferson County, Pennsylvania. Died 22 January 1951 in rural Warsaw Township, with a Brockway mailing address. Buried at Kahle Cemetery on 25 January.
Family Evidence Notes Open for the marriage estimate, conflicting dates, cemetery evidence, and names found in the records.

The marriage estimate. The 1900 census entry reports John and Joanna married for thirty-seven years, supporting a marriage about 1863. Family accounts also give about 1864. An original marriage entry, church record, or contemporary announcement is needed for an exact date. The marriage-index entries naming John as the father of Flora and Edward concern his children’s marriages, not his own.

John’s birth and death. The 1900 census gives November 1843; the California death index records his death on 23 November 1911, aged sixty-eight. Find a Grave gives 15 November 1844 and a death date of 24 November 1911. The newspaper notice published on 2 December gives 24 November and age sixty-nine, while the fuller account published on 6 December gives 23 November. The death index and fuller obituary together favor 23 November. His exact birth date remains unresolved.

John’s California household. The 1910 census entry places him as a boarder in Little Lake, Mendocino County, working as a night watchman at a lumberyard. It describes him as widowed, although Joanna was still living. That marital-status entry should not be used to infer her death or a different marriage.

Burial evidence. John’s 6 December obituary names Guthrie Cemetery after funeral services near East Brady; his Find a Grave entry lists Kittanning Cemetery. The cemetery discrepancy remains open, and a later reinterment has not been established. Joanna’s death certificate and obituary agree on Kittanning Cemetery; the certificate dates her burial to 21 September 1927.

Joanna’s parents and birth. Her death certificate names William Bartley, born in Pennsylvania, and Ellen Flemming, born in Ireland. The fuller paternal name above follows the family research. The certificate records Joanna’s age as eighty-five but leaves the birth-date field blank; it does not independently establish the reported 30 January birthday.

Eleven children and nine survivors. Anna and Violet died in infancy. Both parents’ obituaries name or count nine surviving children, consistent with the eleven-child family listed here. Joanna’s reported thirty-one grandchildren were survivors in 1927, rather than a count of every grandchild born.

Edward’s birth and place among the children. The 1880 census entry lists Edwin J., aged nine, between Charles and George. Edward’s death certificate records his death on 28 June 1928, aged fifty-seven, without a birth date. These ages support birth about 1870–1871, so he is placed before George and Minnie. The reported date of 17 December 1875 is inconsistent with both ages. If 17 December is the correct birthday, 1870 would fit, but that exact date remains unconfirmed.

William Fleming’s conflicting records. His death certificate gives 1 September 1865, while the census entries list him as three in 1870 and thirteen in 1880, supporting a birth about 1867. The certificate also calls him married and names Emma Ackman as his wife. The family account’s reported divorce needs a supporting record.

Minnie and John Walker. Minnie’s marriage application records her age as nineteen, consistent with birth about 1875. The marriage return confirms 19 November 1894 at Petrolia, and the application includes John S. Guthrie’s consent. It does not establish her exact birthday. John Walker’s birth appears as 1877 in the detailed family account and 1878 elsewhere.

Josephine and Lillie. Josephine’s death certificate gives 29 October 1879, Perry Township, and distinguishes her Manorville residence from her death in West Kittanning. Lillie’s certificate confirms 19 February 1882–22 January 1951 and places her death in rural Warsaw Township, Jefferson County, with a Brockway mailing address. It records burial at Kahle Cemetery on 25 January.

Names across the records. Joanna’s obituary uses Barkley rather than Bartley; Josephine’s certificate names her mother as “Joanne Barkley.” Lillie’s certificate instead gives “Joanna Sheakley,” conflicting with the Bartley evidence and apparently substituting the surname associated with her sister Josephine’s family. Josephine’s married surname appears as Shakley, Shakely, and Sheakley. Other useful search variants include Minnie May/Mae, Edward/Edwin, Carry/Carrie, and Lillian/Lillie. Preserve each record’s spelling when transcribing it.

Sources: Ancestry census entries for 1850–1880, 1900, and 1910; the California Death Index, 1905–1939; Pennsylvania death certificates for Joanna, Edward, Flora, William Fleming, Margaret Josephine, and Lillie Mary; Minnie’s Armstrong County marriage application and return, no. 3466; and the Find a Grave index entry for John. Records and family accounts are gathered in the Guthrie Research Tree. Contemporary notices: Simpsons Daily Leader, 2 December 1911, p. 4, and 6 December 1911, p. 4; Simpsons Daily Leader Times, 19 September 1927, p. 8. See Explore the Records for the clippings and supporting resources.

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Children & Descendant Families

Flora Ellen, Anna, and William Fleming begin the next generation of John Steele and Joanna’s family. Their stories lead from Armstrong County to the industrial communities of western Pennsylvania, the oil fields, and new homes in Connecticut, Michigan, New York, and beyond.

1. Flora Ellen Guthrie & Grant Andrew Rhines

Flora: 24 May 1864 – 25 April 1932 · Pennsylvania

Flora Ellen was born in Perry Township, Armstrong County, the eldest of John and Joanna’s eleven children. On 6 May 1889, she married Grant Andrew Rhines, son of Andrew Stean and Caroline M. (Chamberlin) Rhines. Grant worked as a farmer and later as an aluminum-company laborer.

Their family included three sons and two daughters who survived infancy, together with two children whose names remain unknown. Census accounts trace the household through Warsaw in Jefferson County, Perry in Armstrong County, and the New Kensington area of Westmoreland County.

Flora died in New Kensington on 25 April 1932. Her death certificate names John S. Guthrie and Joanna Bartley as her parents and records burial at Union Cemetery on 28 April 1932. Grant, the informant on her certificate, spent the last two years of his own life with a daughter and died on 9 April 1947. The family research also places his burial at Union Cemetery in the New Kensington area.

Flora & Grant’s Seven ChildrenOpen for the Rhines, Wall, Pascoe, and Krapovich families.
Children of Flora Ellen Guthrie & Grant Andrew Rhines
ChildLife & Family
Joanna Caroline Rhines 19 May 1890, Pennsylvania – 15 March 1919, New Kensington, Pennsylvania

Married Axel Hugo Wall, son of Gustaf Adolf and Elizabeth (Kullberg) Wall. Axel reportedly came from Stockholm, Sweden, about 1881. By 1910 they lived in Berlin, Hartford County, Connecticut. He became a naturalized citizen and worked as a steel-factory feeder and machinist.

Their five children comprised three daughters and two sons, born between 1910 and 1918. Joanna died at twenty-eight of influenza and bronchial pneumonia. Axel remained in New Kensington and outlived their two eldest daughters.

William Guthrie Rhines 25 April 1894, Brookville, Pennsylvania – 19 February 1987, Detroit, Michigan

William grew up in Warsaw, Jefferson County, and served as an Army private from 3 May 1917 to 17 June 1919, according to the family’s service account. After his discharge he returned to his parents’ household and worked as a factory laborer.

On 24 July 1925, in Detroit, he married Violet Errer, born in Michigan in 1909 to William and Mary Errer, both of German heritage. Their two sons were born in 1927 and 1932.

William became an automobile assembler. His World War II draft registration, completed at forty-seven, identifies the Hudson Motor Car Company as his employer. He died in Detroit in 1987; Violet died on 9 August 1989 in Clawson, Oakland County, Michigan.

Merle DeWalt Rhines 13 September 1896, Brookville, Pennsylvania – 6 November 1918, Quantico, Virginia

Merle lived in Westmoreland County when he registered for the World War I draft, naming his father Grant as his nearest relative. The family’s military research identifies him as a U.S. Marine Corps private, assigned to Parris Island on 27 July 1918 and transferred to Quantico on 21 October 1918.

He contracted influenza and died of pneumonia at the Marine Barracks sick quarters, aged twenty-two. His remains were returned to Pennsylvania for burial at Union Cemetery in Arnold. He was unmarried and left no children.

Twain Afton Rhines 17 July 1899, Warsaw, Pennsylvania – 11 July 1972, Pennsylvania

Twain appears with his family in Warsaw in 1900 and Perry Township in 1910. At nineteen, he registered for the World War I draft while living in Parnassus and working as a machine fitter for the U.S. Aluminum Company. He named his mother as his nearest relative; military service has not been established.

In 1920 he worked as a railroad blacksmith. On 24 May 1920, in Wellsburg, Brooke County, West Virginia, he married into the McAninch family, also spelled McAnich. They settled in New Kensington, where Twain worked as an aluminum-company riveter and press operator.

They had two daughters, born in 1921 and 1925, and a son born in 1929.

Unidentified Child Born and died before the 1900 censusThe family’s census research records six children born to Flora, with four living in 1900. This child’s name, sex, and dates have not been established.
Unidentified Child Born and died before the 1900 censusA second child is indicated by the same census count. The placement of these unnamed children in the table does not establish their birth order.
Lillian Margaret Rhines About 1901–1902, New Kensington, Pennsylvania – 1979, New York

Known as Lillie, she married Lorenze Wineman Pascoe on 22 August 1918. His name also appears as Lorenzo. Born in 1898, he was a son of John and Minnie Pascoe and worked as a glass-works clerk. Their children were Merle Wineman Pascoe, who died in infancy, and a daughter born in 1920.

By 1928 the couple lived in Royal Oak, Michigan. They divorced in Detroit on 27 February 1930. Lillian and her daughter returned to her parents’ home in New Kensington. That year Lorenze appears as an automobile-parts salesman with a wife named Katherine, born in Georgia about 1901. He later married a divorced mother of one daughter, about 1939, and died in 1965.

Between 1930 and 1940, Lillian married Vincent J. Krapovich, whose surname also appears as Krapowich and Krapowicz. He was born in Connecticut in 1903 to a Russian-born father and German-born mother; his family had lived in New Canaan. Her daughter also lived and worked in Connecticut by 1935, although her exact locality needs confirmation.

Lillian and Vincent settled in Lewisboro, Westchester County, New York, where he worked as a tree surgeon and nurseryman. No children are identified from this marriage. Both died in 1979 and are buried at Maple Avenue Cemetery in Patterson, Putnam County, New York.

2. Anna E. Guthrie

1865 – 31 March 1865 · Armstrong County, Pennsylvania

Anna died on 31 March 1865, reported to have been only ten days old. Her brief life is part of the eleven-child family, although she does not appear among the nine children who survived their parents.

She is buried at the Steel-Guthrie Cemetery in Armstrong County, also spelled Steel-Gutherie in the family account. She left no descendants.

3. William Fleming Guthrie & Emma “Carolyn” Ackman

William: 1 September 1865 or 1867 – 7 August 1936 · Pennsylvania

William was John and Joanna’s eldest son. His death certificate gives his birth as 1 September 1865 in Armstrong County, while his ages in the 1870 and 1880 census entries support about 1867. The year remains unresolved. After moving to the Pittsburgh area, he married Emma “Carolyn” Ackman on 31 December 1894 in Allegheny, Pennsylvania.

William worked as an oil-drilling contractor. Their nine children were born between 1896 and 1914; six reached adulthood. By 1930 William lived with their son Norman, while Carolyn lived in Waynesburg with two daughters and a grandson and worked as a hotel maid. Both were still recorded as married. A later divorce is reported in the family account, but William’s 1936 death certificate also calls him married and names Emma Ackman as his wife; the divorce remains unconfirmed.

William died of a cerebral hemorrhage in Houston, Washington County, Pennsylvania, on 7 August 1936. His death certificate names John Guthrie and Joanna Bartley as his parents, identifies Charles Guthrie as the informant, and records burial at Greene County Memorial Cemetery on 10 August 1936. The family account also reports a later remarriage for Carolyn. She died in Waynesburg on 18 November 1961; her grave marker uses the name Carolyn E. Guthrie.

William & Carolyn’s Nine ChildrenOpen for the Guthrie, Benton, Corwin, King, and Kennedy families.
Children of William Fleming Guthrie & Emma “Carolyn” Ackman
ChildLife & Family
William Royle Guthrie 29 April 1896, Pennsylvania – 12 September 1961, Clarksburg, West Virginia

William lived with his parents in Pittsburgh in 1900 and Waynesburg by 1910. The family’s military account records service with Company K, 10th Infantry, a discharge on 15 February 1916, and reenlistment on 3 May 1916. He later served as a corporal in Company K, 110th Infantry, 28th Division; his final discharge date remains to be established.

By 1920 he was home in Waynesburg, working in oil drilling. On 3 July 1930, in Harrison County, West Virginia, he married Lucy Kerlitha Tucker. They had four sons and three daughters, born between 1933 and 1946, and remained in West Virginia. William died in Clarksburg in 1961. Lucy died on 6 February 2000, aged eighty-seven.

Norman Frederick Guthrie 7 April 1898, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania – 4 April 1982, Grove City, Pennsylvania

Norman grew up in Pittsburgh and Waynesburg. His recorded Army service ran from 2 June 1917 to 23 May 1919, including duty in France from 3 May 1918 to 12 May 1919. He became a corporal and was honorably discharged at Camp Dix, New Jersey.

On 2 June 1921, he married Edith White. They had a son born in 1922 and two daughters born in 1923 and 1931. Norman died in Grove City in 1982; Edith died on 1 September 1993, aged ninety-one. They are buried at Greene County Memorial Park in Morgan.

Charles W. Guthrie 26 October 1903, Pennsylvania – June 1978, Grove City, Pennsylvania

Born in Pittsburgh, Charles moved to Waynesburg while young. He married Hazel Marie Baysinger in the mid-1920s. They had three sons and three daughters, born between 1927 and 1943, and lived in Waynesburg, Pittsburgh, and eventually Grove City.

Charles worked at various laboring jobs and was an oil driller by 1950. Hazel worked as a cook for a restaurant and retail candy business. Charles died in June 1978; Hazel died on 17 December 1995. Both are buried at Jefferson Memorial Park in Pleasant Hills, Allegheny County.

Dorothy Annabelle Guthrie 31 July 1905, Pennsylvania – 22 February 1992, Multnomah County, Oregon

Dorothy was probably born in Pittsburgh or Waynesburg. She married into the Benton family, and their son was born in 1928. After the couple separated, Dorothy and her son shared a home with her mother Carolyn and youngest sister in 1930. Dorothy worked as a hotel waitress and her mother as a maid.

By 1940 Dorothy and her son lived with her sister DeEtta’s family in Waynesburg. The sisters later shared a household in Franklin, Greene County. In 1950 Dorothy worked as a maid and DeEtta as a waitress; the family account identifies their employer as Fort Jackson. Dorothy eventually moved to Oregon to be near her son and died there in 1992.

DeEtta June Guthrie 14 December 1907, Pennsylvania – 9 March 1993, Waynesburg, Pennsylvania

At sixteen, DeEtta married Harold Thomas “Pete” Corwin, a twenty-year-old farm laborer and son of Charles “Delbert” and Eliza Jane (Scott) Corwin. They had a son born in 1925 and two daughters born in 1926 and 1929.

The couple separated, apparently by 1940, when Pete was a lodger in Morris, Greene County. Dorothy and her son joined DeEtta’s household. Pete registered for the World War II draft. Their son is reported to have served in the Navy as an Aviation Machinist’s Mate Third Class and to have received a Purple Heart; his ship assignment and award documentation remain research leads.

By 1950 the children had left home, and DeEtta lived with Dorothy while working as a waitress. Following her divorce from Pete, she married Orville Albert King on 1 January 1961. Orville died in 1983. DeEtta died in Waynesburg in 1993 and is buried at Greene County Memorial Park.

Unidentified Child Born and died before the 1910 censusThe family’s census research records seven children born to Carolyn, with five living in 1910. This child’s name, sex, and dates remain unknown.
Unidentified Child Born and died before the 1910 censusA second child is indicated by the same census count. Neither unnamed child’s place in the birth order has been established.
Marion S. Guthrie 18 October 1912 – 24 December 1912 · Pennsylvania

Marion died of pneumonia in infancy. The dates reported in the family research give an age of two months and six days. His birth record is described as identifying him as his mother’s eighth child and sixth living child.

Carolyn Emma Guthrie 6 March 1914, Waynesburg, Pennsylvania – 14 January 1997, Beckley, West Virginia

Named for her mother, Carolyn lived with her after her parents separated. She married Alvin Pierce Kennedy about 1935. They had three sons, born in 1935, 1938, and 1939, and a daughter born in 1942.

The family settled in Strabane, Washington County, Pennsylvania. Alvin’s 1940 draft registration, completed at twenty-seven, names Carolyn as his nearest relative. His Army service is recorded from 1 August 1945 to 10 January 1946, ending at Camp Blanding, Florida. A later veterans’ compensation application was disallowed because he had fewer than sixty qualifying days within the program’s eligibility period; that is distinct from his total period of service.

Alvin worked as a butcher after returning to Pennsylvania. He died on 30 September 1975, aged sixty-two. Carolyn died in Beckley, Raleigh County, West Virginia, in 1997. They are buried at Oak Spring Cemetery in Canonsburg, Washington County, Pennsylvania.

Family Evidence Notes — Dates, Children & Military ServiceOpen for the birth-year and marital-status conflicts, the Pascoe infant’s record, and the Corwin naval-service question.

William Guthrie Rhines’s census age. One family account places him at sixteen in the 1900 census, although his reported birth in 1894 would make him six. The year or age has been mistranscribed; the original census entry is needed to establish which.

Merle Wineman Pascoe’s short life. The family research describes a death certificate with apparent errors in both age and year. Its proposed reconstruction is a birth on 26 May 1919 and death on 5 March 1920, aged nine months and eight days, consistent with the reported seven-month age in the 1920 census. The certificate, including its alterations, should be compared with that census before treating these reconstructed dates as settled.

Lillian’s children and later marriages. The family narrative identifies two children from her marriage to Pascoe: Merle, who died in infancy, and a daughter born in 1920. No children are identified with Vincent Krapovich. Lorenze’s 1930 household names Katherine as his wife, but a marriage or divorce record is needed to establish that relationship’s legal chronology. Her daughter’s Connecticut locality is transcribed as “Norfolk, Fairfield”; that place description also needs checking.

William Fleming’s birth. His Pennsylvania death certificate gives 1 September 1865 and age seventy years, eleven months, and six days. His census ages of three in 1870 and thirteen in 1880 support about 1867. The certificate supplies a specific birth date, but the earlier census evidence conflicts with its year; neither year is treated as settled.

William and Carolyn’s marital status. Separate households in 1930 establish that they were living apart, not that they were legally divorced. The family narrative reports a divorce, while William’s 1936 death certificate describes him as married and names Emma Ackman. A divorce decree or equivalent record is needed to establish the legal chronology; Carolyn’s reported later remarriage does not by itself date or prove a divorce from William.

The unnamed children. The unnamed Rhines and Guthrie children are supported by differences between children born and children living in the respective census accounts. Those counts establish research leads, but do not supply names, sex, exact dates, or birth order.

The Corwin son’s naval service. The family account names USS Midway and describes a destroyer sunk by a kamikaze. The Escort Carrier Sailors and Airmen Association’s ship history identifies Midway (CVE-63), renamed St. Lo, as an escort carrier sunk on 25 October 1944. This is a possible explanation for the ship name in the family account, but it does not establish the son’s assignment. Muster rolls, discharge papers, or his award citation are needed to connect him to a particular vessel.

Service records and eligibility periods. The military dates and units above follow the family’s collected record references. A draft registration alone does not establish active service. William Royle’s final discharge date remains unknown, and Alvin Kennedy’s compensation decision should not be read as a statement that his entire Army service lasted fewer than sixty days.

Sources: Pennsylvania death certificates for Flora E. Rhines, 25 April 1932, and William Fleming Guthrie, 7 August 1936; family accounts and census, marriage, military, and burial references gathered in the Guthrie Research Tree; the contextual ship history linked above. DNA participation, original newspaper clippings, and additional research leads appear in Explore the Records.

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Children & Descendant Families — Continued

Oil-field work carried Charles, Edward, and George beyond Armstrong County. Charles and Edward made their homes in Lawrenceville, Illinois, while George’s family settled in Ohio. Their stories include five daughters in the next generation, a wedding interrupted by bereavement, and a honeymoon cut short by illness.

4. Charles Wesley Guthrie & Margaret Alice Gilbert

Charles: 20 August 1869 – 8 June 1930 · Pennsylvania → West Virginia → Ohio → Illinois

Charles Wesley was born in Perry Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, where the family’s post office was at Bradys Bend. The family account places his move to West Virginia at about eighteen. Several years later, on 12 July 1898, he married Margaret Alice “Maggie” Gilbert in West Virginia.

Maggie was a daughter of William C. Gilbert and Indiana J. Moats, whose family had lived in Ritchie County before West Virginia became a separate state. Her mother’s shortened name, India, continued into later generations. Charles worked first as an oil-well driller and later as an oil contractor.

Charles and Maggie were in Marietta, Washington County, Ohio, in 1900. Their elder daughter was born in Williamstown, Wood County, West Virginia, in 1906, and their younger daughter in Lawrenceville, Illinois, in 1908. By the 1910 census, the household was established in Lawrenceville.

Charles died there on 8 June 1930, shortly after daughter Minnie Bea’s wedding. Although he had been ill, his death was unexpected, and the newlyweds returned from their journey toward Texas for his funeral. Maggie remained in Lawrenceville and died in April 1955. The couple are buried at Lawrenceville City Cemetery.

Charles & Maggie’s Two DaughtersOpen for the Stillwell and Rader families.
Children of Charles Wesley Guthrie & Margaret Alice Gilbert
ChildLife & Family
India Gilbert Guthrie 7 October 1906, Williamstown, West Virginia – 9 January 1996, Illinois

Although born in West Virginia, India spent most of her life in Lawrenceville. On 28 September 1929, she married into the Stillwell family.

India briefly worked as a supply teacher in the public schools and later was a homemaker. Her husband worked as a gas-station attendant and became part owner of the station. They had a daughter born in 1933 and a son born in 1937.

Minnie Bea Guthrie 20 July 1908, Lawrenceville, Illinois – 29 June 2003, Texas

Minnie Bea was twenty-one when she married into the Rader family on 7 June 1930, according to the family account. Her husband was living in Texas, while his parents lived in the Lawrenceville area.

The couple departed for Texas after the wedding, but received word of her father’s death before arriving. They returned to Illinois for his funeral and afterward resumed their journey to begin married life. Her husband worked as a funeral director.

They first lived on South Main Street in Paris, Lamar County, Texas, moved to Gladewater, Gregg County, by 1935, and later lived in Kilgore. They had a son born in 1932 and a daughter born in 1938.

5. Edward J. Guthrie & Leila Gould

Edward: About 1870–1871 – 28 June 1928 · Pennsylvania and Illinois

Edward appears in the indexed 1880 Perry Township census household as Edwin J. Guthrie, aged nine, between Charles and George. His death certificate records his age as fifty-seven in June 1928. Together, these ages support a birth about 1870–1871. His exact birthday remains unconfirmed.

Much of Edward’s adult life remains to be traced. His whereabouts in the 1900, 1910, and 1920 censuses have not been established in the collected research. His father’s 1911 obituary identifies him as the son who brought John’s remains home from California. By 1928, Edward was a contractor living in Lawrenceville, Illinois.

In June 1928, he married Leila Gould, a teacher from Lawrenceville. A marriage announcement published on 14 June describes him as fifty-three and Leila as thirty-seven. During their honeymoon, they visited his sister Josephine Shakley in Kittanning, Pennsylvania.

Edward became seriously ill and died in Kittanning on 28 June 1928. His Pennsylvania death certificate names John S. Guthrie and Joanna J. Bartley as his parents and gives the cause of death as septicemia. The informant was A. S. Shakley. His obituary places the death at Josephine’s home, 435 Reynolds Avenue, and reports that his remains were sent to Lawrenceville on 29 June for burial.

No children are known. The family research places Leila’s later marriage to Charles Adam Pavey, a widower with a son and daughter, after 1943. Charles died in 1961; Leila died in 1974.

6. George Washington Guthrie & Edna L. Moellendick

George: 5 April 1873 – 4 April 1941 · Pennsylvania → West Virginia → Ohio

George Washington Guthrie was born and raised in Perry Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania. He became an oil driller, with work taking him to West Virginia and Ohio. He married Edna L. Moellendick in Washington County, Ohio; an exact marriage date remains to be established.

The couple had three daughters: Mabel, Helen Patricia, and Georgianna. The family lived in Rush Creek, Fairfield County, and later in Zanesville, Muskingum County, Ohio.

George and Edna belonged to Forest Avenue Presbyterian Church, where George served for several years as a trustee. The family account also records his affiliations with the Blue Lodge of Masons, the Knights Templar, and the Shrine of Columbus.

After an extended illness and hospitalization, George died in Columbus, Ohio, on 4 April 1941, one day before his sixty-eighth birthday. Edna survived him until 8 February 1962, when she died in Zanesville.

George & Edna’s Three DaughtersOpen for the Sauer, Kassell, Martin, and Fulkerson families.
Children of George Washington Guthrie & Edna L. Moellendick
ChildLife & Family
Mabel M. Guthrie 10 April 1901, West Virginia – 16 November 1976, Ohio

Mabel moved with her parents to Ohio while young and was living in Rush Creek by 1910. About 1925, she married John Adam Sauer. They lived in Zanesville and later in Lakewood, Cuyahoga County.

They had a son born in 1926 and a daughter born in 1927. John worked as a real-estate salesman and broker during the 1930s and 1940s.

By the time of his death on 26 August 1963, John and Mabel had lived in Wake Forest, North Carolina, for about ten years. He died of a heart attack after a history of heart disease. Mabel died in Ohio in 1976.

Helen Patricia Guthrie 17 March 1906, Woodsfield, Ohio – 5 August 1961, Zanesville, Ohio

Helen was four in the family’s reported 1910 census household in Rush Creek. On 3 March 1928, in Marietta, she married Glenn Bertram Kassell, son of George William and Ida Florence (Blake) Kassell.

The marriage account describes Helen, then twenty-one, as a Senior High School graduate who had spent two years at the Lakewood Nurses Training School. Glenn worked for the Greiner Dairy Company and later for the Ohio Power Company. He completed a World War II draft registration on 16 October 1940; active military service has not been established.

They had one son, born in 1940. Helen died in Zanesville in 1961 and was buried at Memorial Park Cemetery.

Glenn later married Laura Elaine (Nowell) Lutz, a widow with three daughters. After Laura’s death in 1973, he married Evelyn E. Holt in 1974; Evelyn died in 1981. Glenn died on 4 September 1986 in Naples, Collier County, Florida. His remains were returned to Ohio for burial with Helen at Memorial Park Cemetery.

Georgianna Guthrie 23 November 1908, Zanesville, Ohio – 11 October 2001, Long Beach, California

Also recorded as Georgiana, she graduated from Ohio University at Athens and became a teacher at Lash High School, including work in physical education.

The family account reports an earlier marriage in Wheeling, West Virginia. Its date and the marriage’s ending remain unconfirmed. In the reported 1940 census entry, Georgianna appears as a single daughter.

On 5 August 1944, she married Charles Edmond Fulkerson, a widower, in Zanesville. She helped raise his daughter, born in 1932, and they had another daughter together in 1945.

The family moved to South Gate, Los Angeles County, California. In 1950 Charles worked as a mould maker at a glass factory. He died in Los Angeles County on 29 September 1985. Georgianna was living in Long Beach when she died on 11 October 2001, aged ninety-two.

Family Evidence Notes — Dates, Marriages & PlacesOpen for Edward’s age evidence, the wedding chronology, and unresolved marriage details.

Charles’s move and marriage. His reported birth in August 1869 and marriage in July 1898 make him twenty-eight at marriage. The statement that he moved to West Virginia at eighteen therefore describes an earlier event, not his age when he married Maggie.

Charles’s death and Minnie Bea’s wedding. The family account gives 7 June 1930 for Minnie’s wedding and 8 June 1930 for Charles’s death, while another sentence calls them the same day. These dates would place his death the following day. The account of the newlyweds returning for his funeral is retained, but the wedding return and death record should be compared before accepting a same-day chronology.

Edward’s birth estimate. The Ancestry census entry lists Edwin J. as nine in 1880; Pennsylvania death certificate no. 63219 records Edward as fifty-seven at his death on 28 June 1928. These ages support birth about 1870–1871. The certificate leaves the birth-date field blank. If the reported birthday of 17 December is correct, 1870 would fit both ages, but the exact date is not established. The marriage announcement’s age of fifty-three supplies a conflicting estimate and does not resolve the discrepancy.

Edward and Leila’s marriage. The collected announcement was published on 14 June 1928; that publication date is not itself a marriage date. His obituary describes a wedding about two weeks before his death and places it in Lawrenceville. An Indiana marriage-index entry names Edward with parents John S. Guthrie and Joanna Bartley. The full entry is needed to establish the exact date and place and to reconcile these references.

Edward’s missing years and later family. The unlocated census entries are gaps in the collected research, not evidence that he was absent from those censuses. No earlier marriage or children have been established. Leila’s marriage to Charles Adam Pavey is reported as occurring after 1943; its exact date remains a research lead.

Helen’s birth year. One family summary gives 1907, but her detailed account gives 17 March 1906, consistent with the reported age of four in 1910 and twenty-one at her March 1928 marriage. The 1906 date is used here pending comparison with the underlying birth record.

Georgianna’s first marriage. The family account gives 23 December 1924 for her earlier marriage, but also places her university graduation and teaching career before that event. With the reported birth in November 1908, she would have been sixteen. The chronology requires the original marriage record; a different year should not be substituted without evidence. Her description as single in 1940 does not by itself establish whether an earlier marriage ended by divorce, annulment, or death.

Glenn Kassell’s later marriages. The family research identifies Laura Elaine (Nowell) Lutz and Evelyn E. Holt as later wives. A possible additional marriage remains unverified.

Zanesville place names. The family narrative alternates between Zanesville, “Janesville,” and “Zanesburg.” Zanesville is the city named in the daughters’ detailed accounts and is the form used here. The City of Zanesville’s history provides geographical context; original family records remain the evidence for each residence and event.

Sources: family accounts and census, marriage, death, burial, and newspaper references gathered in the Guthrie Research Tree; Edward J. Guthrie’s Pennsylvania death certificate, 28 June 1928, no. 63219; and the Ancestry 1880 census and Indiana marriage-index entries. Publication details for the collected 1928 marriage announcement and obituary remain to be completed. See Explore the Records for additional resources and research leads.

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Children & Descendant Families — Continued

Minnie’s, John Walker’s, and Josephine’s families followed railway routes and oil-field work into new communities. Their children became a physician, a petroleum geologist, a teacher, and workers in other trades, while family ties continued to bring them back to western Pennsylvania.

7. Minnie May Guthrie & James Merle Simpson

Minnie: 27 May 1875, reported – 1 January 1953 · Pennsylvania

Also recorded as Minnie Mae, Minnie was raised in Perry Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania. Her birth is reported as 27 May 1875; her age of five in the indexed 1880 census and nineteen in her marriage application are consistent with that year. Family references differ between Perry Township and Petrolia for her birthplace.

On 19 November 1894 at Petrolia, Minnie married James Merle Simpson, with her father John S. Guthrie’s written consent. James was a son of David Simpson and Nancy Herron, born in Corsica, Pennsylvania, on 6 September 1866. Their marriage application describes him as a postal clerk living in Connellsville and Minnie as a resident of Perry Township.

Minnie and James raised two sons. Over the following decades, they lived in Connellsville, Pittsburgh, and Upper St. Clair. James continued railway postal work, appearing as a railway mail clerk in the family’s 1910 and 1930 census accounts.

Minnie died on 1 January 1953. James outlived her by seven years, dying on 23 March 1960 at the Fair Rest Home in Applewold, where declining health had kept him for about five years.

Minnie & James’s Two SonsOpen for Dean’s family and Dr. Robert Chester Simpson’s medical and military career.
Children of Minnie May Guthrie & James Merle Simpson
ChildLife & Family
Dean Dewalt Simpson 16 January 1898, Connellsville, Pennsylvania – 12 November 1967, Pennsylvania

Dean was born in Connellsville, Fayette County, and moved with his family to Pittsburgh. At nineteen, he completed a World War I draft registration while working as a clerk for a steel company.

About 1925, he married Martha G. Brennan. They had three sons. Dean worked as a salesman for a mill-supply company; the family’s death-record account describes him as a retired executive.

Dean died on 12 November 1967 following a pulmonary embolism. Martha lived to ninety-nine, dying on 19 September 1999. Her reported survivors included their sons, eleven grandchildren, and nine great-grandchildren.

Robert Chester Simpson 13 March 1907, Kittanning, Pennsylvania – 31 January 1991, South Carolina

Robert’s obituary identifies Kittanning as his birthplace. About 1934, he married Marjorie Barr; they had two daughters.

A graduate of the University of Pittsburgh medical program, Robert served during World War II as an Army Air Corps flight surgeon in Africa, entering as a lieutenant. The family account records his continued reserve service and promotion to lieutenant colonel.

In civilian practice, he specialized in ear, nose, and throat medicine in Ridgway, Pennsylvania. He also served for two years as Elk County coroner.

After retirement, Robert and Marjorie moved to Surfside Beach, South Carolina, in 1976. He died on 31 January 1991; Marjorie died in 1997.

8. John Walker Guthrie & Carry “Carrie” Bell Orr

John: 9 November 1877, reported; year disputed – 1955 · Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Illinois, Texas, Ohio, and Michigan

John Walker was born in Armstrong County, Pennsylvania. The detailed family account gives 9 November 1877, while another summary gives 1878. By 1900, he was living in Union, Ritchie County, West Virginia, working as a tool dresser on an oil well.

He returned to Pennsylvania to marry Carry Bell Orr on 13 February 1906. Her name also appears as Carrie. They moved to Lawrenceville, Illinois, where several of John’s siblings also settled.

Oil-field employment kept the family moving. John’s World War I draft-registration account gives Lawrenceville as his permanent residence while he was working away from home. By the 1920 census, the family lived in Ranger, Eastland County, Texas. In 1930 they were in Harrison Township, Perry County, Ohio, with John continuing the same kind of work.

John and Carrie had three children: Isabel Joan, Daniel Gilbert, and Margaret Vernell. The family was in Crooksville, Perry County, Ohio, when Margaret died in 1932, aged sixteen. She was buried at Lake Park Cemetery in Youngstown.

John and Carrie later lived in Michigan, with family references naming West Branch, Bloomingdale, and Bay City. John died in 1955 and Carrie in 1966. Both were buried at Lake Park Cemetery, where their daughter Margaret had been laid to rest.

John & Carrie’s Three ChildrenOpen for the Geiss and Guthrie families, and Margaret Vernell’s short life.
Children of John Walker Guthrie & Carry Bell Orr
ChildLife & Family
Isabel Joan Guthrie 9 December 1906, Illinois – 9 April 1990, New York

Isabel’s childhood followed her father’s oil-field employment through several states. In 1925, she married John Albert Geiss, born in Muncie, Indiana, to Jacob and Elizabeth (Wilson) Geiss.

They lived in Youngstown, Ohio, before moving to New York State. Their daughter was born in 1926.

John was construction superintendent for the L. C. Whitford Construction Company. He died after a short illness on 11 December 1960 in Wellsville, New York. Isabel lived until 9 April 1990.

Daniel Gilbert Guthrie 8 April 1909, Lawrenceville, Illinois – 15 January 1990, Michigan

Daniel was born in Lawrenceville and was still there with his family in 1910. By 1920, they had moved to Ranger, Texas.

In 1931, in Ohio County, West Virginia, he married. They had one son, born in 1932. The circumstances ending that marriage have not been established.

On 10 August 1937, Daniel married for the second time. They had two sons and one daughter and lived in Saginaw, Michigan. Daniel’s two marriages account for four known children.

Margaret Vernell Guthrie About 1915 – 29 March 1932, Ohio

Margaret was John and Carrie’s youngest child. The family was living in Crooksville, Perry County, Ohio, when she died of tuberculosis on 29 March 1932, reported aged sixteen.

She was buried at Lake Park Cemetery, Youngstown, Mahoning County, Ohio. Her parents were later buried there as well. No descendants are known.

9. Margaret Josephine Guthrie & Albert Smith Shakley

Josephine: 29 October 1879 – 25 July 1963 · Armstrong County, Pennsylvania

Known throughout her life as Josephine, she was born in Perry Township on 29 October 1879, according to her death certificate. She remained in her parents’ household in 1900 and married Albert Smith Shakley on 11 June 1902.

Albert was a son of Daniel Michael Shakley and Bridget “Biddy” Jane White of Perry Township. He worked as a driller in the oil and gas industry. Albert and Josephine purchased a home on Reynolds Avenue in Kittanning, where they raised sons Edwin Guthrie and Charles Theodore. A third son was stillborn on 16 February 1919.

Their home also sheltered other members of Josephine’s family. Her mother Joanna spent her final years with Josephine, and her brother Edward was visiting during his honeymoon when he died there in June 1928.

Albert died on 10 January 1947, aged seventy-three. The family’s 1950 census account places Josephine in East Franklin and describes her work as private nursing.

Josephine’s death certificate distinguishes her usual residence in Manorville from her place of death in West Kittanning. She died on 25 July 1963, aged eighty-three, and was buried at Kittanning Cemetery on 28 July. Albert is also buried at Kittanning Cemetery.

Josephine & Albert’s Three SonsOpen for Edwin, Charles Theodore, and the infant son who was stillborn.
Children of Margaret Josephine Guthrie & Albert Smith Shakley
ChildLife & Family
Edwin “Ed” Guthrie Shakley 29 March 1903, reported, Pennsylvania – 11 January 1993, Missouri

Ed grew up in Kittanning and graduated from the University of Pittsburgh School of Mines. He worked for the Shell Oil Company for thirty-two years as a petroleum geologist.

His work took him to Kansas, where he married Freda Harris on 18 June 1937, and later to other oil-producing regions. They lived in Centralia, Marion County, Illinois, in 1940 and in Houston, Texas, when Ed registered for the World War II draft on 16 February 1942.

Ed died on 11 January 1993; Freda died on 8 February 1993. Both were buried in Eldon, Miller County, Missouri. No children are known. The reported reversal of their birth dates on their shared gravestone is discussed below.

Charles Theodore “Theo” Shakley 15 January 1905, Pennsylvania – 23 March 1978, St. Petersburg, Florida

Theo completed four years of college and became a mathematics teacher at Manorville Junior High School. On 17 May 1928, he married Mary Mildred Wylie, daughter of John Curtis and Louise (Mangold) Wylie.

Their five children comprised two sons, born in 1928 and 1929, and three daughters, born in 1932, 1933, and 1939.

Mary, a homemaker, died suddenly of a coronary occlusion on 10 November 1953, aged forty-six. She was buried at West Glade Run Presbyterian Cemetery in East Franklin.

Theo retired and moved to Florida. He died in St. Petersburg, Pinellas County, on 23 March 1978. His remains were returned to Pennsylvania for burial at the same cemetery as Mary.

Stillborn Son 16 February 1919

Josephine and Albert’s third son was delivered stillborn. The family’s account of his record supplies no given name and does not specify complications or prematurity. He is included in the family’s three-child total.

Family Evidence Notes — Birth Dates, Service & Family RecordsOpen for Minnie’s marriage document, John Walker’s conflicting ages, and the Shakley records.

Minnie’s birthplace and marriage. Armstrong County marriage application and return no. 3466 establish her marriage to James M. Simpson at Petrolia on 19 November 1894. The application gives her age as nineteen, names her parents, and includes John S. Guthrie’s written consent. It gives her residence as Perry Township; the wedding location does not establish her birthplace. The reported 27 May birthday and the Perry/Petrolia birthplace difference still need a birth or equivalent contemporary record.

The Simpsons’ military references. A possible period of naval service for James Merle Simpson remains unverified. Dean’s draft registration alone does not establish active service. Robert Chester Simpson’s flight-surgeon service and later reserve rank follow the family’s obituary and service account and should be cited to his own records.

John Walker’s birth year. Family references give 9 November 1877 and a birth year of 1878. The indexed 1880 household lists John as three, which does not fit either November date exactly. The family account’s age of twenty-three in the 1900 census also needs comparison with the original entry. These ages should be reconciled with his draft registration and other original records before selecting a definitive year.

John’s draft registration and Texas employment. The family narrative describes a Texas employer but transcribes the work locality as “Witchita.” The original card is needed to identify the locality accurately. The family’s later residence in Ranger is a separate census reference and should not be used to supply the missing draft-card place.

Daniel’s first marriage. The family research records marriages in 1931 and 1937. It does not establish whether the first marriage ended by divorce or the first wife’s death. One son belongs to the first marriage; the two further sons and daughter belong to the second.

Margaret Vernell’s birth and death. The family account gives her birth year as 1915 and reports death on 29 March 1932, aged sixteen. These details support an approximate birth period, not an exact birthday. Her entry is retained separately alongside Isabel and Daniel so that all three children are represented.

Josephine’s certificate and census age. Her Pennsylvania death certificate, no. 067444-63, records 29 October 1879 as her birth date, death in West Kittanning on 25 July 1963, usual residence in Manorville, and burial at Kittanning Cemetery on 28 July. It uses the surname Sheakley. The 1900 Ancestry census summary lists Josephine as twenty, consistent with an October 1879 birth; the family narrative’s age of twenty-one is not used here.

Three sons, including the stillbirth. Edwin and Charles Theodore were the two sons raised to adulthood. The reported stillbirth on 16 February 1919 belongs in the full child count. No cause, gestational age, or given name is supplied by the available account.

Edwin and Freda’s gravestone. The family research reports that their shared stone reverses the couple’s birth dates, assigning 5 October 1903 to Edwin instead of 29 March 1903. The 29 March date is retained as the family’s reported date. The marker should be compared with Edwin’s original birth and draft records and Freda’s records before treating the reversal as independently verified.

Names and places. Useful record variants include Minnie May/Mae, Carry/Carrie, and Shakley/Shakely/Sheakley. The youngest Shakley daughter’s given-name spelling should be checked against her own records. The Pennsylvania borough associated with Robert’s medical practice is spelled Ridgway in Elk County’s municipal directory.

Sources: family accounts and census, marriage, death, military, obituary, and burial references gathered in the Guthrie Research Tree; Minnie May Guthrie and James M. Simpson’s Armstrong County marriage application and return, no. 3466; the 1880 and 1900 Ancestry census entries for John Steele’s household; and Margaret Josephine Sheakley’s Pennsylvania death certificate, 25 July 1963, no. 067444-63. Additional resources and research leads appear in Explore the Records.

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Children & Descendant Families — Continued

The two youngest daughters were Violet, who lived only five days, and Lillie, who raised a family with Ralph “Mike” English in western Pennsylvania. Their seven children are included below.

10. Violet E. Guthrie

4 January 1881 – 9 January 1881 · Armstrong County, Pennsylvania

The family research records Violet’s birth in Perry Township, Armstrong County, on 4 January 1881. She died five days later, on 9 January, and was buried at Steel-Guthrie Cemetery in Armstrong County.

Violet had no descendants. Her brief life remains part of John Steele and Joanna’s eleven-child family.

11. Lillian “Lillie” Mary Guthrie & Ralph Klair “Mike” English

Lillie: 19 February 1882 – 22 January 1951 · Pennsylvania

Known as Lillie, the youngest child of John Steele and Joanna was born on 19 February 1882. Her death certificate records her name as Lillie Mary English and her birthplace as Parkers Landing, Pennsylvania. In the family’s 1900 census account, she was eighteen, living with her parents in Queenstown, and still attending school.

On 14 April 1904 in Jamestown, New York, Lillie married Ralph Klair English, known as Mike. He was a son of David T. English and Estella Bowen. A deep-well driller, Mike is credited in the family account with helping drill the first gas wells in the Reynoldsville area.

Jefferson County became the family’s home. Lillie and Mike had seven children: Clarence, Nellie Jane, Joanna Estella, Donald David, George Edwin, Kenneth Leroy, and a younger daughter. Their eldest son, Clarence, died shortly before his fourth birthday.

Lillie died on 22 January 1951 in rural Warsaw Township, Jefferson County, aged sixty-eight. Her certificate gives Brockway R.D. 1 as the address and records a cerebral hemorrhage due to hypertension. She was buried on 25 January at Kahle Cemetery, Jefferson County.

Mike died on 15 November 1958 in Franklin, Venango County, at the home of their daughter Nellie Hughes. According to the family account, declining health had brought him there a few months earlier. His burial is recorded in that account as Kahletown Cemetery, Jefferson County.

Lillie & Mike’s Seven ChildrenOpen for the English, Hughes, and O’Donnell families.
Children of Lillie Mary Guthrie & Ralph Klair English
ChildLife & Family
Clarence English 29 August 1904 – 1 August 1908 · Pennsylvania

Clarence was Lillie and Mike’s first child. The family account records his death from cholera infantum at three years of age, less than a month before his fourth birthday. No descendants are known.

Nellie Jane English 16 July 1906, Pennsylvania – 3 March 1981, Pennsylvania

Born in Armstrong County, Nellie moved with her parents to Reynoldsville by 1910. On 28 July 1927, she married Charles “Malcolm” Hughes, son of Robert and Mabel Grace (Sprague) Hughes.

By 1930, they lived in Cleveland, Ohio, where Malcolm worked in a steel mill. Their household included their first child, a brother of Malcolm, and Nellie’s brother George. They returned to Jefferson County by 1935.

Their five children comprised two sons and three daughters, born between 1929 and 1937.

Malcolm worked as a coal-company fire boss in 1940 and was described as a mine foreman and machinist in 1950. Nellie worked as a retail store clerk in 1950. The family account also associates them with a general store in Dempseytown, although its ownership and sale dates need reconciliation.

The account reports a move to New Mexico in 1955 because of Malcolm’s health. It also places Nellie in Franklin when her father died at her home in 1958; the intervening residence history remains to be clarified.

Malcolm died on 4 November 1964 in Las Vegas, San Miguel County, New Mexico. His remains were returned to Pennsylvania for burial at Graham Cemetery in Franklin.

Nellie died at seventy-four on 3 March 1981 at Elk Haven Nursing Home in St. Marys, where she had lived for five years. She was also buried at Graham Cemetery.

Joanna Estella English 6 August 1908, Reynoldsville, Pennsylvania – 10 February 1975, Connecticut

Joanna grew up in Reynoldsville and married Patrick O’Donnell. Their marriage-license notice appeared in The Jeffersonian-Democrat on 20 August 1925, when she was seventeen. That publication date does not establish the wedding date.

Patrick worked as a state-highway laborer and later as a miner. They had a daughter born in 1928 and a son born in 1931. Their son served in the U.S. Marine Corps, according to the family account.

Joanna and Patrick separated before 1950. Joanna and her son then lived with her daughter’s family in Hartford, Connecticut, where Joanna worked in hospital housekeeping.

Patrick later remarried and died on 20 February 1968 in Youngstown, Ohio. Joanna died on 10 February 1975 and was buried at Cedar Hill Cemetery in Hartford.

Donald David English 3 October 1910, Reynoldsville, Pennsylvania – 11 September 1969, Los Angeles, California

Donald was the eldest surviving son. At seventeen, he married Lillian Alliene Ridley, daughter of Valentine Bowser Ridley and Eveline May Early.

In 1930, Donald and Lillian were nineteen and lived in a rented home on Macomb Street in Monroe, Michigan, with their year-old son. Donald worked as a steel-mill shearman. Their census account also notes that the household had no radio.

The family grew to nine children: six sons and three daughters, born between 1929 and 1949. Later family references place them in Armstrong and Venango Counties, Pennsylvania, and describe Donald’s work on a WPA road project. The dates of these residences need to be compared with his railroad employment.

On 27 July 1945, Donald was hired by the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway. The family’s employment-record account describes approximately eighteen years associated with the company, principally as a brakeman, first in its Arizona division and later in its Los Angeles division.

That employment included repeated reductions in force, with gaps of weeks or months followed by rehiring or transfer. It ended on 9 September 1963 with an annuity award.

Donald died in Los Angeles on 11 September 1969. Lillian died on 14 March 1979. Both were buried at Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale, California.

George Edwin English 25 May 1913, Pennsylvania – 2 September 1981, Detroit, Michigan

George played the cornet. At sixteen, he lived with his sister Nellie’s family in Cleveland; the family’s census account describes him as neither employed nor attending school.

On 28 February 1933, aged nineteen, George sought entry to Canada at Windsor, Ontario, intending to work as a cornet player for Louis Fournier in Ottawa. The border record, as transcribed in the family research, records his application as rejected. The reason has not been established.

About four years later, George married Ruth “Marie” Kentner in Detroit. Her surname also appears as Kenner in the family summary. They had five children.

When George registered for the World War II draft in 1940, he worked at the Cottonwood Night Club at 48th and Tejon Streets in Denver, Colorado.

The family’s service account records U.S. Army enlistment on 9 January 1947 and an honorable medical discharge on 31 July 1953. After leaving the Army, George attended barber school and worked as a barber until retiring in 1976.

George died in Detroit on 2 September 1981, aged sixty-eight. His burial on 5 September is reported at National Memorial Gardens in Redford. Marie died in 1993 and is reported buried at Detroit Memorial Park West.

Kenneth Leroy English 24 July 1917, Reynoldsville, Pennsylvania – 1986, Pennsylvania

Kenneth was the youngest son. On 7 September 1940, he married Mary Grace Weinfurther. They settled in Etna, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, and had three children.

Kenneth’s 1940 draft-registration account identifies his employer as the Natural Alloy Steel Company. A separate 1940 census entry for a trucker named Kenneth English in Tioga, Pennsylvania, remains a possible match.

By 1950, Kenneth worked as a steward at a social club. The family’s census account reports a check in the World War I service column, an entry incompatible with his 1917 birth. His actual military-service history needs confirmation from service records.

Kenneth died in 1986 and was buried at Saint Mary’s Cemetery in Sharpsburg, Allegheny County. Mary Grace died on 12 March 1998.

Youngest Daughter Born about 1921, Pennsylvania

This daughter was Lillie and Mike’s youngest recorded child. The available family account supplies an approximate birth year but no verified marriage, death, or child details. Her later life remains a research question.

Family Evidence Notes — Lillie’s Certificate & the English FamiliesOpen for the recorded places, name differences, and unresolved dates.

Lillie’s birth and death. Pennsylvania death certificate no. 3389 names Lillie Mary English, born 19 February 1882 at Parkers Landing, and records death on 22 January 1951, aged 68 years, 11 months, 3 days. Both the death location and usual residence are rural Warsaw Township, Jefferson County; Brockway R.D. 1 is the address. It records twenty-two years at that place. “Brockway” alone does not preserve the certificate’s township distinction.

Parents and informant. The certificate names John Guthrie as Lillie’s father and Joanna Sheakley as her mother. Other family records identify her mother as Joanna J. Bartley. The Sheakley entry appears erroneous and may reflect confusion with Lillie’s sister Josephine’s married surname; that explanation is an inference. Lillie’s husband Ralph English supplied the personal information.

Cause of death and burial. The certificate records cerebral hemorrhage due to hypertension and burial on 25 January 1951 at “Kahle Cem.,” Jefferson County, Pennsylvania. Mike’s family account calls his burial place Kahletown Cemetery. Those source-specific names are retained; cemetery records can establish their precise burial locations.

Nellie’s store and residence dates. The family narrative gives 1946–1951 for ownership of the Dempseytown general store but says it was sold in 1955. It also reports a 1955 move to New Mexico and Mike’s 1958 death at Nellie’s Franklin home. These details need comparison with deeds, directories, and obituaries before a continuous chronology can be stated.

Donald’s work and residences. The family account places his family in Pennsylvania during portions of 1935–1950, while his Santa Fe employment begins in July 1945. These references may describe different household and work locations. The original census entries and railroad record should establish the sequence; the employment account itself includes layoffs and transfers.

George’s Canadian border entry. The family’s transcription gives 28 February 1933, Windsor, Ontario; age nineteen; single; birthplace and last residence Reynoldsville; U.S. nationality; “Irish” in the record’s race-or-people field; English language; Baptist religion; and no previous residence in Canada. His stated occupation in both countries was cornet player. He intended to join employer Louis Fournier, 160 Lyons Street, Ottawa, named his father Ralph in Reynoldsville as his nearest relative, and carried $7. The recorded action was “REJECTED.” The transcription supplies no reason for that decision, and its ancestry label does not independently establish an Irish birthplace for an earlier Guthrie ancestor.

George’s wife and burials. The detailed family account uses Kentner for Marie’s maiden surname, while its heading uses Kenner. Her marriage record is needed to resolve the difference. George’s and Marie’s cemetery names are retained as separately reported; cemetery records should be consulted before treating the names as different sites or as names used for the same site.

Kenneth’s census and military references. The Tioga trucker entry remains an unconfirmed identification. Kenneth’s birth in 1917 rules out the reported World War I service entry as an accurate service history. Neither that entry nor his 1940 draft registration establishes World War II service; a service or discharge record is needed.

Violet, Clarence, and the youngest daughter. Violet’s dates and burial, Clarence’s dates and reported cause of death, and the youngest daughter’s approximate birth year follow the family research. The youngest daughter’s missing later details should not be read as evidence that she had no spouse or children.

Sources: family accounts and census, marriage, death, immigration, military, railroad, obituary, and burial references gathered in the Guthrie Research Tree; and Lillie Mary English’s Pennsylvania death certificate, 22 January 1951, no. 3389. The family research also links to The Boston Medical and Surgical Journal, volume XLV, as historical reading alongside Clarence’s entry; it is not a record of Clarence’s death. Additional resources and research leads appear in Explore the Records.

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Newspaper notices bring this family’s scattered households together at two moments in time: John’s death in 1911 and Joanna’s in 1927. Compare the clippings with the census and vital records, explore the local histories, and help answer the questions that remain.

Open an accordion for the records and research notes. Select a clipping to view its full-size image.

John’s First Death Notice — 2 December 1911Open for the clipping, reported death date, and Edward’s return with his father’s remains.

“Father of Mrs. Shakely Passes Away.” Simpsons Daily Leader, Kittanning, Pennsylvania, Saturday, 2 December 1911, page 4.

The notice identifies John S. Guthrie as the father of Mrs. Albert Shakely of Kittanning. It reports death at “Willets,” California, on 24 November 1911, aged sixty-nine. His son Edward brought the remains to the family’s former home in Perry Township, where the funeral took place on Thursday. A wife and nine children survived.

Compare the dates: the California death index and the fuller notice below give 23 November. The reported age of sixty-nine also differs from the index’s age of sixty-eight. These differences remain part of the evidence.

John S. Guthrie death notice, Father of Mrs. Shakely Passes Away, published 2 December 1911.
John’s first notice gives 24 November as the death date. Select the clipping to enlarge it.
John’s Fuller Obituary — 6 December 1911Open for the California account, Pennsylvania funeral, and family residences.

“Died in Far West.” Simpsons Daily Leader, Kittanning, Pennsylvania, Wednesday, 6 December 1911, page 4; marked “Published by Request.”

This account gives John’s death as 23 November 1911 at “Willets,” California, following liver and stomach trouble. It says he had gone to California three years earlier for his health. Edward left for California eight days before his father’s death and afterward accompanied the body home.

The funeral was held near East Brady at two o’clock on Thanksgiving afternoon, with Rev. Campbell of the Fairview U. P. Church conducting the service. The obituary names Guthrie Cemetery as the place of burial.

Three brothers and one sister were named among the survivors: Hugh, near Parker’s Landing; Will, Cowansville; Samuel, Monterey; and Mrs. Daniel Walker, Parker’s Landing.

The nine surviving children were reported at these locations:

  • George and Edward Guthrie: “Breman, Ohio,” as printed.
  • William Guthrie: Waynesburg, Pennsylvania.
  • John and Charles Guthrie: Lawrenceville, Illinois.
  • Minnie, Mrs. J. M. Simpson: Mount Washington.
  • Lillie, Mrs. Ralph English: Reynoldsville.
  • Flora, Mrs. Grant Rhines: Parker’s Landing.
  • Josephine, Mrs. Albert Shakeley: Kittanning.

Burial question: this contemporary account names Guthrie Cemetery, while John’s Find a Grave entry names Kittanning Cemetery. A burial register, funeral record, or reinterment record is needed to reconcile them.

Full obituary of John S. Guthrie, Died in Far West, published 6 December 1911, naming his siblings and nine surviving children.
The fuller obituary supplies a 23 November death date, Guthrie Cemetery burial, and the family’s reported residences in 1911.
Joanna’s Obituary — 19 September 1927Open for her final home, nine surviving children, and the 1927 family count.

“Estimable Woman Dead.” Simpsons Daily Leader Times, Kittanning, Pennsylvania, 19 September 1927, page 8.

The notice names Mrs. Joanna Barkley Guthrie, widow of John S. Guthrie, and reports her death at 2:30 on Sunday morning at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Albert Sheakley, 435 Reynolds Avenue, Kittanning. She was eighty-five and had formerly lived near Petrolia. Her death certificate supplies the calendar date: 18 September 1927.

The surviving children were Flora Rhines in New Kensington; William in Waynesburg; Charles, Edward, and John in Lawrenceville, Illinois; George in Zanesville, Ohio; Minnie Simpson in Mount Washington, Pittsburgh; Lillie English in Reynoldsville; and Josephine Sheakley in Kittanning.

The notice also reports thirty-one grandchildren and fourteen great-grandchildren surviving. Funeral services were announced for Wednesday afternoon at the Sheakley home, conducted by Rev. A. E. Driggers, with burial in Kittanning Cemetery. Joanna’s certificate records burial on 21 September 1927.

“Barkley” and “Sheakley” are spellings used in this notice. The grandchild count describes survivors in 1927, rather than every grandchild born to the family.

Obituary of Joanna Barkley Guthrie, Estimable Woman Dead, published 19 September 1927, listing children and funeral arrangements.
Joanna’s obituary connects the nine surviving children to their residences and identifies her final home with Josephine’s family.
Census, Marriage & Death RecordsOpen for the principal records behind the family account and what each contributes.

Records and family research are gathered in the Guthrie Research Tree. The census material reviewed here includes Ancestry’s indexed summaries; those summaries should be compared with the original schedules when resolving conflicting ages or spellings.

Principal Records Used on This Page
RecordEvidence & Questions
U.S. Census Entries
1850–1880, 1900 & 1910

These entries trace John’s childhood, the growing household, and his later residence in California. The 1900 entry gives November 1843 and thirty-seven years of marriage. The 1880 household includes Edwin J., aged nine, supporting Edward’s placement before George and Minnie.

In 1910, John was a boarder and lumberyard night watchman in Little Lake, Mendocino County. His entry says widowed, although Joanna was living, and records his father’s birthplace as Ireland and his mother’s as Pennsylvania.

California Death Index
1905–1939
The entry for John records death on 23 November 1911, aged sixty-eight. It supports the date in the fuller obituary. The original California death certificate remains an important record to obtain.
Joanna J. Guthrie
Pennsylvania Death Certificate
18 September 1927; no. 86661. Names William Bartley and Ellen Flemming as parents, gives their birthplaces as Pennsylvania and Ireland respectively, and records Kittanning Cemetery burial on 21 September. Joanna’s birth-date field is blank; her reported 30 January 1842 birthday requires another source.
Edward J. Guthrie
Pennsylvania Death Certificate
28 June 1928; no. 63219. Records death in Kittanning, age fifty-seven, septicemia, and removal to Lawrenceville on 29 June. The birth-date field is blank. The certificate and 1880 census conflict with the family’s reported 1875 birth year.
Flora Ellen Rhines
Pennsylvania Death Certificate
Records birth on 24 May 1864, death in New Kensington on 25 April 1932, and Union Cemetery burial on 28 April. Names John S. Guthrie and Joanna Bartley as parents; Grant A. Rhines was informant.
William Fleming Guthrie
Pennsylvania Death Certificate
Records birth on 1 September 1865, death in Houston, Washington County, on 7 August 1936, and Greene County Memorial Cemetery burial on 10 August. It describes him as married to Emma Ackman. The birth year differs from his childhood census ages, and the reported divorce needs a separate record.
Margaret Josephine Sheakley
Pennsylvania Death Certificate
25 July 1963; no. 067444-63. Gives birth on 29 October 1879 in Perry Township, usual residence in Manorville, death in West Kittanning, and Kittanning Cemetery burial on 28 July. The distinction between residence and death location matters.
Lillie Mary English
Pennsylvania Death Certificate
22 January 1951; no. 3389. Gives birth on 19 February 1882 at Parkers Landing, residence and death in rural Warsaw Township with a Brockway R.D. 1 address, and Kahle Cemetery burial on 25 January. The mother’s surname is entered as Sheakley, conflicting with the Bartley evidence.
Minnie May Guthrie & James M. Simpson
Armstrong County Marriage Record
Application and return no. 3466. The application is dated 16 November 1894, the license 17 November, the marriage 19 November at Petrolia, and the return 5 December. Minnie was nineteen; John S. Guthrie supplied written consent. These dates describe different stages of the same marriage record.
Marriage Indexes & Cemetery References Marriage-index entries naming John as the father of Flora or Edward concern his children’s marriages. They do not date his marriage to Joanna. John’s Find a Grave entry supplies useful birth and burial leads, but its dates and cemetery identification differ from other records.

Detailed comparisons appear in the Family Evidence Notes within The Family and each descendant-family block. The evidence concerning John’s father William belongs with the broader research at the William Guthrie & Jane Steele Family Hub.

Books, Local Histories & Background ReadingOpen for the Knox and Shakley biographies, Armstrong County histories, and contextual resources.

Robert Walter Smith, History of Armstrong County, Pennsylvania (1883). Chicago: Waterman, Watkins. A county history for the places and communities appearing throughout this family’s records. Read at HathiTrust →

J. H. Beers & Co., Armstrong County, Pennsylvania: Her People Past and Present (1914), volume 1. The J. M. Knox biography, page 360, discusses his father George Knox’s marriage to the widow Jane (Steel) Guthrie and their family. This is relevant to John Steele’s mother and stepfamily. Open the Knox biography →  ·  Volume 1 →

J. H. Beers & Co., Armstrong County, Pennsylvania: Her People Past and Present (1914), volume 2. The Daniel Michael Shakley biography supplies background for the family of Albert Smith Shakley, husband of Margaret Josephine Guthrie. Open the Shakley biography →  ·  Volume 2 →

Lawrence Knorr, A Pennsylvania Mennonite and the California Gold Rush: The Journal and Letters of David Baer Hackman (2011). Background reading for a Pennsylvanian’s journey to Gold Rush California. The family research cites it for historical context surrounding William Guthrie’s western journey; no specific Guthrie family connection to the book has been established. Book listing →

The Boston Medical and Surgical Journal, volume XLV. Historical reading linked in the family research alongside Clarence English’s reported death from cholera infantum. It is not Clarence’s death record. Open the historical journal article →

Works Progress Administration. General background for the WPA road-project employment reported for Donald David English. Read the overview →

The county biographies are published family accounts to compare with original records. The Gold Rush, medical, and WPA readings provide context; they do not independently establish this family’s events.

A Glimpse of George English’s Musical WorldOpen for the Cottonwood Night Club matchbook cover from Denver.

George Edwin English, son of Lillie Guthrie and Ralph English, played the cornet. The family’s account of his 1940 draft registration names the Cottonwood Night Club at 48th and Tejon Streets, Denver, Colorado, as his workplace.

This vintage matchbook advertises the same venue as a place to dine and dance. The image was found through an eBay listing and retained in the family research. No date or ownership connection to George has been established.

Two views of a vintage Cottonwood Night Club matchbook cover advertising dining and dancing at 48th and Tejon in Denver.
Vintage Cottonwood Night Club matchbook cover, shown in two orientations. A surviving piece of the venue’s advertising, rather than a personal artifact attributed to George.

DNA Participation Chart

No descendant line is currently represented. No Y-DNA, Big-Y, or autosomal DNA project participation is documented through any child of John Steele Guthrie and Joanna J. Bartley in the reviewed family research.

Select a child’s name to explore that family. Your family line could help broaden the project’s evidence.

Children of John Steele Guthrie & Joanna J. Bartley
Child Y-DNA Big-Y Autosomal
Flora Ellen Guthrie N/A N/A —
Anna E. GuthrieDied in infancy; no descendants. N/A N/A N/A
William Fleming GuthrieFather-to-son line to pursue. — — —
Charles Wesley GuthrieTwo daughters; no continuing father-to-son line is known. N/A N/A —
Edward J. GuthrieNo children are known. N/A N/A N/A
George Washington GuthrieThree daughters; no continuing father-to-son line is known. N/A N/A —
Minnie May Guthrie N/A N/A —
John Walker GuthrieFather-to-son line to pursue through Daniel Gilbert Guthrie. — — —
Margaret Josephine Guthrie N/A N/A —
Violet E. GuthrieDied in infancy; no descendants. N/A N/A N/A
Lillian Mary “Lillie” Guthrie N/A N/A —

— = no project participation recorded in the reviewed material. N/A = no applicable descendant testing route is known for that column. John’s Y-DNA cannot pass through a daughter; Charles and George have only daughters documented, Anna and Violet died in infancy, and Edward has no known children. Big-Y is a more detailed Y-DNA test and requires the same unbroken father-to-son connection.

A dash does not mean that no descendant has tested elsewhere. Autosomal participation can come through sons or daughters; a match alone does not establish descent or prove that shared DNA came from this particular couple.

Could Your Line Be the First Represented?

Y-DNA candidates: the documented families of William Fleming Guthrie and John Walker Guthrie provide father-to-son routes to investigate. A willing tester would need a documented, unbroken male line back to John Steele. Living candidates have not yet been identified here.

Autosomal candidates: descendants through any of the eight child lines with documented children are welcome to contribute their lineage and relevant match comparisons.

If you have tested, include your line back to John and Joanna, with names, dates, spouses, and supporting records. Read how to join the Guthrie DNA Project →

Most Wanted DocumentsOpen for the records most likely to resolve the remaining questions.
  • John’s birth and John–Joanna marriage. A family Bible, baptism, church register, or contemporary family record could resolve John’s November 1843/1844 birth and establish the marriage date behind the circa-1863 census estimate.
  • John’s California death certificate and Pennsylvania burial records. Seek the full death record, funeral-home papers, cemetery register, and any reinterment record to reconcile the death-date and cemetery differences.
  • Joanna’s birth record or family Bible entry. Her death certificate gives an age but leaves the birth-date field blank. A source for the reported 30 January 1842 birthday is still needed.
  • Edward’s birth and marriage records. An early record could resolve his birth around 1870–1871 and the reported 17 December birthday. The complete marriage record for Edward and Leila Gould is needed to settle the exact date and the Indiana/Lawrenceville location references.
  • William Fleming’s birth and marital history. Compare an early birth or baptismal record with the 1865 certificate date and census ages supporting about 1867. Obtain a divorce or subsequent marriage record to clarify the conflicting marital accounts.
  • Minnie’s and John Walker’s early records. Minnie’s original birth evidence could establish her exact date and birthplace. John Walker’s birth, draft, and census records should be compared to resolve his conflicting birth years.
  • Records behind the descendant-family questions. Particularly useful are Edwin and Freda Shakley’s birth records and gravestone photographs; Kenneth English’s service record; George English’s marriage and complete border entry; and records clarifying Nellie Hughes’s and Donald English’s residence and employment dates.
  • Lillie and Mike’s youngest daughter. A marriage, obituary, family Bible, or other identifiable record could extend her account beyond the approximate 1921 birth.
  • Photographs, letters, and family papers. Please include names, approximate dates, locations, and the source or owner when known. Images of both sides of a photograph or document may preserve useful inscriptions.

When sharing a record, include the full image and its citation or collection details when possible. Nearby entries, page headings, and reverse-side notes can help distinguish people with similar names.

Help This Family’s Story Grow

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A family letter, Bible entry, photograph, or overlooked record may hold the detail that connects another generation. If you descend from this family or have evidence to add, share your finding with Guthrie Genealogy. Please include the source and explain how the people named connect to the family.

Documented father-to-son descendants are also welcome to discuss Y-DNA participation. Descendants through daughters can contribute records, family history, and autosomal comparisons. DNA testing is not required to help tell this story.

Researched and curated by Ann Guthrie · Guthrie Genealogy