1A-G: John William Guthrie

Family parcels at a river landing, tagged with the names of the Guthrie children.

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John William Guthrie& Elizabeth L. White

Amherst Roots · Augusta County, Virginia · A Missouri Connection

John William Guthrie, son of William Guthrie and Elizabeth Wingfield, married Elizabeth L. White on 13 December 1824 in Augusta County, Virginia. Their family includes ten known children, whose records carry the story through Staunton, Fishersville, and beyond.

The 1850 census places John, a farmer, with Elizabeth and eight of their children in Augusta County. A family memorial card records his death year as 1852. Their son George Wyatt’s 1854 marriage record associates his parents with Missouri, although John’s place of death remains unconfirmed.

Elizabeth was again recorded with her family in Augusta County in 1860. Her death notice places her death at Christian’s Creek on 18 December 1863 and reports six daughters and two sons surviving her.

Family at a Glance

John William Guthrie and Elizabeth White’s family includes four sons and six daughters. Census households, marriage records, family memorials, and newspaper notices connect the children, while preserving some differences in their reported ages and dates.

John William Guthrie

Parents
William Guthrie & Elizabeth Wingfield, of Amherst County, Virginia.
Birth
About 1800–1802, associated with Amherst County. The 1850 census age and the family memorial’s age at death give slightly different estimates.
Occupation & Residence
Farmer in the 1850 Augusta County census. The John Guthrie described as a teacher in Staunton in 1820 remains a possible earlier identification.
Death & Burial
1852, according to the family memorial card. Missouri is a documented family connection, but his death location and burial have not been established.
Genetic Family
GFG1A modal Y-DNA, represented through George Wyatt Guthrie’s paternal line, with matching Augusta County, Virginia locations.

Elizabeth L. White

Parents
William White; her mother’s identity remains unestablished. A proposed Frazier connection needs further documentation.
Birth
Early 1800s, associated with Augusta County, Virginia. Reported ages suggest approximately 1803–1808.
Guardianship
A bond dated 22 November 1824 identifies her as an orphan of William White, deceased, with John McCue as guardian.
Later Household
Recorded with her children in Augusta County in 1860, with Burke’s Mill as the household’s post office.
Death & Burial
18 December 1863, at Christian’s Creek, Augusta County, according to her newspaper death notice. Her burial place remains unconfirmed.

John William Guthrie & Elizabeth L. White
Married 13 December 1824
Augusta County, Virginia

The Guthrie Children

Approximate birth years reflect the early census evidence; unresolved dates are identified in the table and notes.
ChildDatesFamily & Records
George Wyatt Guthrie 1826–1896 Married Cornelia A. Grass in 1854. Their sons were John William and Charles Wingfield Guthrie. George worked for the railroad and later as a carpenter. His direct paternal descendant line represents this family in GFG1A Y-DNA testing.
Catharine A. Guthrie“Kate”; also Catherine About 1828–1895 A seamstress who lived with relatives in Virginia and Ohio. She remained unmarried in the assembled records; no children are identified.
John Wingfield Guthrie About 1830
Died 14 January 1862
Married Marietta Rankin in 1855. His death notice names a widow and two surviving children. Marietta later married William Copeland, and the family continued in New Jersey. The younger John W. Guthrie and William Guthrie require separate identities in descendant accounts.
Emily Jane Guthrie About 1832–1833
Died 1913
Married James Calvin Hall in 1854; their children were Bettie Belle, George Edward, and Florence Fay Hall. She later married Charles W. Kidwell in 1868, and they had a son, James Hamilton Kidwell.
Elizabeth Mary Guthrie“Lizzie” About 1834–1835
Death year unresolved:
1893 or 1894
Unmarried; worked as a milliner and spent time with her sister’s family in Ohio. Her death occurred while visiting a niece in Roanoke. The completed funeral account records burial at Thornrose Cemetery.
James Hamilton Guthrie About 1837–1861September/October death-date conflict Served in Company H, 5th Virginia Infantry, Confederate service. Military and family accounts record his death during the war, but differ on the date. He was unmarried, with no identified children.
Susan Cornelia GuthrieUsually Cornelia About 1839–1840
Died 1902
Married John William Detter in 1866 and lived in Belmont County, Ohio. Their daughter Jessie May Detter continues the documented family line. Other household relationships need further review.
Sarah Oliver Guthrie“Sallie” About 1841–1899 A seamstress, recorded with her sisters’ families in Virginia and Ohio. She remained unmarried in the assembled research; no children are identified. Her obituary records burial at Thornrose Cemetery.
Amanda L. Guthrie About 1843
Died 5 March 1896, as reported in the family record
Married widower George W. Lashley in 1873 in Belmont County, Ohio. Their daughter was Cornelia Guthrie “Nelle” Lashley, later the wife of her cousin James Hamilton Kidwell. Amanda also became stepmother to George’s children from his first marriage.
Samuel C. Guthrie About 1846–1848
Died 12 December 1886, according to the family memorial
Married Sallie Louisa Warren in 1875 in Belmont County, Ohio. No children of this marriage have been securely identified. Sallie later married John Robert Rush in Iowa.

Sources include the supplied research-tree and census summaries, marriage abstracts, family memorials, and newspaper notices. See Explore the Records for the source discussion and child-by-child DNA participation table.

Family Evidence NotesBirth estimates, White parentage, Missouri, and conflicting family dates.

The parents’ birth estimates. John’s age of fifty in the 1850 census suggests about 1800, while the memorial’s age of fifty at his 1852 death suggests about 1802. Elizabeth’s census and memorial ages vary; her newspaper notice reports age sixty in December 1863. These should remain estimates rather than a single exact birth year.

Elizabeth White’s parents. The November 1824 guardianship identifies her father as William White, deceased. It establishes that he had died by that date, not necessarily during 1824. The William White will dated 1817 and recorded in 1818 has not been securely identified as her father’s will. Jane Frazer’s presence in the 1850 household does not, by itself, establish her precise relationship to Elizabeth or prove Elizabeth’s mother’s surname.

The Missouri connection. George Wyatt Guthrie’s 1854 marriage return describes his parents as John and Elizabeth Guthrie of Missouri. This supports a family connection with that state, but does not identify John’s death place or establish that both parents were still living in 1854. Elizabeth is recorded in Augusta County in 1860.

Newspaper dates and memorial dates. Elizabeth’s death notice gives 18 December 1863; the memorial card gives the seventeenth. John Wingfield’s notice gives 14 January 1862, differing from the memorial’s sixteenth. The table follows the newspaper date for John Wingfield.

The children’s ages. Early census ages place Cornelia about 1839–1840, Sallie about 1841, and Amanda about 1843. Some later returns imply younger ages. Samuel’s census ages and memorial age suggest a birth between about 1846 and 1848. Emily’s reported 1833 birth also differs slightly from her age in 1850. George’s death notice reports “about 65,” and Sallie’s reports fifty; both differ from the ages implied by their earlier records.

Three death-date questions remain open. Lizzie’s year appears as 1893 and 1894; the full newspaper issue is needed to date the surviving clipping. Amanda’s family record reports 5 March 1896, while another summary gives 1898. James Hamilton’s military and family references differ between September and October 1861, with additional day differences. Those conflicts should be resolved against the original records.

John Wingfield’s children. His notice establishes two children surviving at his death. Later records distinguish John W. Guthrie from William Guthrie; they should not be merged into one “John William.” The proposed posthumous birth of the younger William requires its own supporting record.

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Historical Highlights

Augusta Roots, Working Lives & Family Connections

River-landing illustration for the Guthrie family story.

John William Guthrie and Elizabeth L. White established their family in Augusta County, Virginia, after marrying in December 1824. Their ten children grew up during the following two decades. In 1850, John was a farmer, and eight of the children were still in the household. Jane Frazer, aged eighty, also lived with them; her precise relationship to Elizabeth needs further documentation.

The children’s working lives extended beyond farming. George Wyatt Guthrie became a railroad section master and later a carpenter. His son John William trained as a blacksmith, while Charles Wingfield eventually worked as a railway cashier. Kate and Sallie Guthrie worked as seamstresses, and Lizzie as a milliner. These occupations give the family history a broader setting than the names and dates alone.

A Missouri connection appears in George’s 1854 marriage return, which describes his parents as John and Elizabeth Guthrie of that state. The family memorial places John’s death in 1852. Elizabeth was again recorded in Augusta County in 1860. The sequence preserves a western connection, although the timing of any journey and John’s death location remain unsettled.

Loss, Remarriage & Shared Households

The early 1860s brought several deaths. James Hamilton Guthrie died during his Confederate military service in 1861. His brother John Wingfield Guthrie died near Rankin’s Church on 14 January 1862, leaving Marietta and two children. Their mother Elizabeth died at Christian’s Creek on 18 December 1863. Her notice counted six daughters and two sons among her survivors.

Family connections continued through remarriage and shared homes. Emily Jane Guthrie, first married to James Calvin Hall, married Charles W. Kidwell in 1868. The Kidwell home at West End in Staunton appears repeatedly in relatives’ funeral accounts. In Ohio, the Detter and Lashley households provided other points of connection: Lizzie lived with Cornelia’s family, while Kate and Sallie were recorded with Amanda’s family in 1880. Samuel’s 1875 marriage also places him in Belmont County.

John Wingfield’s widow, Marietta Rankin Guthrie, married William Copeland in 1866, and her family continued in Trenton, New Jersey. Later notices distinguish her son John W. Guthrie from William Guthrie. Their separate households and obituaries are essential to keeping the next generation correctly identified.

Two daughters’ lines joined again when Emily’s son James Hamilton Kidwell married Amanda’s daughter Cornelia Guthrie “Nelle” Lashley in 1893. Their mothers were sisters, making the couple first cousins. The marriage brought the Virginia and Ohio branches together in another generation.

The Genetic and Geographic Connection

The direct paternal line through George Wyatt Guthrie carries the GFG1A modal Y-DNA, with matching Augusta County, Virginia locations. This supports the family’s GFG1A placement and corrects its former association with GFG2A. The presence of another Guthrie family nearby in the census should not merge these distinct paternal lines.

Family Timeline

Selected events in John and Elizabeth’s family and the next generation. Family memorial dates and unresolved conflicts remain identified.
DateRecorded Event
22 Nov 1824A guardian for Elizabeth WhiteA bond names John McCue as guardian of Elizabeth, an orphan of William White, deceased. It establishes that her father had died by this date.Source: Augusta County guardianship-bond transcription retained in the family research; the original volume and image locator require confirmation.
13 Dec 1824John and Elizabeth marryJohn William Guthrie and Elizabeth L. White marry in Augusta County, Virginia.Source: Augusta County marriage record and supplied research-tree documentation.
1826–1840sFour sons and six daughtersThe family grows from eldest son George Wyatt to youngest son Samuel C. The children’s approximate birth years are compared in Family at a Glance.Source: Census households, family records, and later marriage and death notices.
1850A farming household in AugustaJohn, fifty, and Elizabeth, forty-four, are enumerated with Catharine, Emily, Elizabeth, James, Cornelia, Sarah, Amanda, and Samuel. Jane Frazer, eighty, is also present.Source: 1850 U.S. census, District 2, Augusta County, Virginia; retained household extraction.
1852John’s death in the family memorialThe memorial card records John’s death in this year. It does not establish where he died or where he was buried.Source: Guthrie family memorial card.
Mar 1854Two children marryGeorge Wyatt marries Cornelia Grass on 14 March in Staunton. His minister’s return describes his parents as being of Missouri. Emily Jane marries James Calvin Hall on 31 March.Source: George’s transcribed minister’s return and the Hall marriage research. The Missouri wording does not establish that John was still living.
16 Sep 1855John Wingfield and Marietta RankinThe couple marry in Augusta County. By the 1860 census, their household includes young John and Elizabeth Jane.Source: Marriage information and 1860 household extraction retained in the family research.
1860Elizabeth heads an Augusta householdElizabeth and several of her children are recorded in the North Subdivision, with Burke’s Mill as their post office. George’s separate household identifies him as a section master on the Central Railroad.Source: 1860 U.S. census, Augusta County, Virginia; family household extractions.
1861Military service and James Hamilton’s deathGeorge Wyatt and James Hamilton enter Company H, 5th Virginia Infantry, Confederate service. James dies later that year; the September and October dates in military and family accounts remain in conflict.Source: Retained military research, James’s service-record lead, and family memorial.
14 Jan 1862John Wingfield dies near Rankin’s ChurchHis newspaper notice names a young widow and two children and describes his kindness to his mother. The memorial card instead gives 16 January.Source: Death notice, captioned Staunton Spectator, 4 March 1862, p. 2.
18 Dec 1863Elizabeth dies at Christian’s CreekHer notice describes a longtime Presbyterian church member and mother of six surviving daughters and two surviving sons. The newspaper date differs by one day from the family memorial.Source: Death notice, captioned Staunton Spectator, 12 January 1864, p. 2.
1866New marriages and new destinationsSusan Cornelia marries John William Detter on 18 January; their later households are in Ohio. Marietta marries William Copeland on 18 February, and her family is recorded in Trenton, New Jersey, by 1870.Source: Retained marriage information and census extractions. Detter also appears as Decker in a marriage transcription.
30 Jun 1868Emily marries Charles W. KidwellAfter the end of her marriage to James Calvin Hall, Emily marries Charles Kidwell. Their son James Hamilton Kidwell is born in 1870, joining Emily’s three Hall children in the family history.Source: Hall–Kidwell marriage and family research; the 1868 divorce proceedings require their own record discussion.
1873–1875Amanda and Samuel marry in OhioAmanda marries widower George W. Lashley on 10 December 1873 in Belmont County. She becomes stepmother to his children and mother to Cornelia “Nelle.” Samuel marries Sallie Louisa Warren in the same county on 25 February 1875.Source: Belmont County marriage information and the Lashley and Warren family research.
1880Siblings share homes across state linesKate and Sallie are enumerated with Amanda’s Lashley household in Mead, Belmont County, Ohio. In South River, Augusta County, George works as a carpenter, his son John William as a blacksmith, and Charles as a store clerk.Source: 1880 U.S. census household extractions for the Lashley and George Wyatt Guthrie families.
12 Dec 1886Samuel’s death is rememberedThe family memorial records Samuel’s death. His widow Sallie later marries John Robert Rush in Iowa. No child of Samuel and Sallie has been securely identified.Source: Family memorial and retained Warren–Rush marriage research; Samuel’s death location remains unconfirmed.
1893The Kidwell and Lashley lines joinJames Hamilton Kidwell, Emily’s son, marries Cornelia Guthrie “Nelle” Lashley, Amanda’s daughter, in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. The first cousins later raise their family in Virginia.Source: Kidwell–Lashley marriage and descendant research.
1893–1899Newspaper notices preserve family connectionsLizzie’s death year remains 1893 or 1894 pending a dated issue; her clipping reports burial at Thornrose. Kate dies on 3 March 1895. Amanda’s family record gives 5 March 1896, while another summary gives 1898. George dies on 16 July 1896, and Sallie’s death is reported in August 1899.Source: Family death list and the Lizzie, Kate, George, and Sallie newspaper notices; full transcriptions in Explore the Records.
1902–1913Cornelia and Emily’s later yearsSusan Cornelia Detter’s death is recorded in Belmont County, Ohio, in 1902. Emily Jane Kidwell dies in Staunton on 12 March 1913. Their daughters and sons carry the family into another generation.Source: Retained Detter and Kidwell death, burial, and family research.
1911–1919Distinct Guthrie households in TrentonJohn W. Guthrie’s obituary appears in April 1911. Marietta Copeland’s January 1916 notice names her son William Guthrie at 609 Mulberry Street. William’s own February 1919 obituary uses the same address and identifies his surviving family.Source: The two Guthrie newspaper clippings and the supplied typed transcription of Marietta’s notice; these distinguish John and William without settling William’s exact birth chronology.
Reading the Family’s Shared HouseholdsWork, relatives, and the difference between a census entry and a proven relationship.

Virginia and Ohio connections. The census places unmarried sisters in the homes of married siblings, while newspaper notices identify relatives who hosted visits and funerals. These records document continuing contact across the family. They do not, by themselves, establish why someone moved or the terms on which a household was shared.

The Detter household. Jessie May Detter’s place in Cornelia’s family is documented in the assembled research. Roy’s relationship needs closer comparison with Jessie’s son Roy before he is counted as another child of Cornelia. A household surname alone does not resolve the question.

The Trenton family. The Guthrie children appear under the Copeland surname in the retained 1870 census extraction. Later notices help recover their separate identities. William’s proposed birth after John Wingfield’s death remains a question for birth and parentage records.

The obituary transcriptions, source citations, family memorials, and remaining research questions are gathered in Explore the Records.

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Marriage records, census households, family memorials, and newspaper notices trace John William Guthrie and Elizabeth L. White’s family through Virginia, Ohio, and New Jersey. The records below preserve the children’s individual stories and the evidence behind the family reconstruction.

The newspaper sections contain ten transcribed clippings and one existing typed transcription. Original wording and reported ages are retained; square brackets mark uncertain readings. Line-end word divisions have been joined. Each notice has its own source link and research note.

John William Guthrie & Elizabeth L. WhiteMarriage, guardianship, family placement, and the Missouri connection.

The Augusta marriage and White guardianship

John and Elizabeth married on 13 December 1824 in Augusta County, Virginia. A guardianship-bond transcription dated 22 November 1824 names Elizabeth as an orphan of William White, deceased, with John McCue as guardian. Jefferson Kinney also appears among the signers. The bond establishes that William had died by November 1824; it does not date his death to that year.

The precise Augusta volume and image references need to be recovered from the original records. The Amherst Guthrie guardianship and Wingfield estate references belong to different events and should not be used as citations for Elizabeth White’s guardianship.

A retained abstract of a William White will dated 6 September 1817 and recorded in 1818, cited as Will Book 6, p. 311, names a brother Henry White of New Orleans and provides for the emancipation of Charlotte and her daughter Celey. The testator has not been securely identified as Elizabeth’s father. This remains a separate identity question, not evidence of her inheritance or her mother’s name.

The Guthrie family connection

John’s place among the children of William Guthrie and Elizabeth Wingfield is presented at the Branch G Family Hub. The tested paternal line through George Wyatt Guthrie carries the GFG1A modal Y-DNA, with matching Augusta County, Virginia locations. This corrects the family’s former GFG2A placement. The nearby John Gilkeson Guthrie–Adeline Barclay Paxton household belongs to a distinct Guthrie family.

Missouri and John’s death

The family memorial records John’s death in 1852, aged fifty. George Wyatt’s 1854 marriage return describes his parents as John and Elizabeth Guthrie of Missouri. That wording preserves a significant geographic connection without establishing that both parents were alive in 1854 or identifying John’s death place. Elizabeth appears in Augusta County again in 1860.

John William Guthrie in the Guthrie Research Tree brings together the working reconstruction and its record leads.

Census Households & Name VariationsAge estimates, occupations, and relationships that require care.

1820 — Staunton, Augusta County. The retained research identifies a John Guthrie, aged sixteen to twenty-five, as a teacher. He is a possible earlier identification of this John, not a confirmed match solely on name and locality.

1850 — District 2, Augusta County. The household extraction lists John, 50, farmer; Elizabeth, 44; Catharine, 22; Emily J., 18; Elizabeth, 16; James, 13; Cornelia, 11; Sarah, 9; Amanda, 7; Samuel C., 4; and Jane Frazer, 80. All are reported as born in Virginia. Jane’s presence does not by itself establish her precise relationship to Elizabeth.

1860 — North Subdivision, Augusta County; Burke’s Mill post office. The retained extraction lists Elizabeth, 52, with personal estate valued at $100; Elizabeth M., 22; James C., 21; Susan C., 18; Amanda L., 13; Samuel C., 12; and Sarah O., whose age is not supplied in that extraction. “James C.” is preserved as the extracted name for comparison with James Hamilton’s other records.

Later households. The South River, Augusta County; Mead, Belmont County, Ohio; and Trenton, New Jersey, entries follow the children into their own families and relatives’ homes. The Trenton Guthrie children appear under the Copeland surname in the 1870 extraction. Household surnames and reported ages must be compared across records before combining people or assigning relationships.

Family Memorials, Bible Entries & Elizabeth’s NoticePreserving the different dates rather than silently reconciling them.

The Guthrie memorial card

Supplied transcription of a family memento; the original card and its provenance should accompany any future revision.

In Fond Remembrance Of
My Dear Ones.

JOHN GUTHRIE,
Died in 1852; Aged 50 Years
ELIZABETH GUTHRIE,
Died December 17, 1863; Aged 59 Years.
JOHN W. GUTHRIE
Died January 16, 1862; Aged 30 Years.
James H. Guthrie,
Died October 15, 1861; Aged 24 Years.
SAMUEL C Guthrie,
Died 12 Dec 1886; Aged 39 Years

Entries attributed to the Hall family Bible

The retained source is an Ancestry media item. The following reproduces the supplied transcription; the original pages have not been independently reread for this block.

In memory of James Hamilton Guthrie who died in the service of his country Oct 16th 1861 in the 24th year of his age.

John Wingfield Guthrie departed this life January 14th 1862 in the 32 year of his age.

Sacred to the memory of Elizabeth L Guthrie who departed this life December 18th 1863 in the 58th year of her age.

The Bible transcription and memorial card differ in both dates and ages. John Wingfield’s and Elizabeth’s newspaper notices supply further comparisons. James’s military file introduces a September date as well as October references.

Elizabeth L. White Guthrie — Death Notice

Source: Staunton Spectator, 12 January 1864, p. 2, according to the image caption. View the original clipping.

On December 18th, 1863, on Christian’s Creek, Mrs. ELIZABETH L. GUTHRIE, aged 60 years. The deceased had been long afflicted, confined entirely to her bed and chair, unable to walk for several years past. She has long been a consistent member of the Presbyterian church, a kind neighbor, an affectionate mother, leaving six daughters, and two sons to mourn their loss.

Research note: The notice gives 18 December 1863, age sixty, Christian’s Creek, and eight surviving children. The memorial card instead gives 17 December and age fifty-nine. Other December 1863 publication dates in the compiled citations remain unverified; they are not counted as additional notices.

The Children & Their Descendants

1. George Wyatt Guthrie & Cornelia A. GrassRailroad work, military service, and the represented paternal line.

George’s reported birth is 25 April 1826. The retained marriage and death research identifies his parents as John William Guthrie and Elizabeth White. Laurence R. Guthrie’s American Guthrie and Allied Families, p. 60, instead associated him with Haley Guthrie and Fanny of the GFG2A family. The GFG1A Y-DNA result corrects that placement.

Marriage: the transcribed minister’s return records George, twenty-seven, and Cornelia Grass, twenty-five, marrying on 14 March 1854 at the home of Rev. B. M. Smith in Staunton. It identifies George as an Augusta-born farmer and son of John and Elizabeth Guthrie of Missouri. Cornelia’s parents are William and Nancy Grass, deceased. An affidavit concerning her age is dated 13 March; the minister certified the return on 17 April.

Work and service: George was a railroad section master in 1860 and 1870 and a carpenter in 1880. The retained military research records his enlistment as a sergeant in Company H, 5th Virginia Infantry, Confederate service, on 19 April 1861, and discharge on 24 July 1862. The service-file link is retained for comparison with the original cards. A retrospective “Augusta Rifles” article, cited to the Staunton Spectator, 7 September 1900, p. 1, also belongs with this research.

John William Guthrie & Willie Fontaine Dawson

Their elder son, John William Guthrie (1855–1930), trained as a blacksmith and later operated a shop at Fishersville. He married Willie Fontaine Dawson on 27 September 1882. The family reconstruction names seven children: Katherine Lee, Wyatt Dawson, Charles Donald, Claude Wingfield, Mary M., John Richard, and Kent Fontaine. This is the son’s family through which the recorded Y-DNA and autosomal participation continues.

Charles Wingfield Guthrie & Agness LaZetta Harris

Charles Wingfield Guthrie (born about 1858–1859; died 1909) became a cashier for the Carolina, Clinchfield and Ohio Railway. He married Agness LaZetta Harris about 1891. The family reconstruction names Cecil Russel, Merle Cornelia, Clyde Wingfield, and Eugene Field. His obituary reports three surviving children; the two statements should be compared as birth and survival counts.

George Wyatt Guthrie — Death Notice

Source: Staunton Spectator, 22 July 1896; date supplied by the image citation. View the original clipping.

DEATHS.

GUTHRIE.—July 16th, at Fishersville, of inflammatory rheumatism, Geo. W. Guthrie, aged about 65. He left a wife and two sons, J. William and Chas. Guthrie.

Research note: The printed age “about 65” differs from the 1826 birth used in the family research. The notice names his surviving wife and sons J. William and Chas.

Cornelia A. Grass Guthrie — Obituary

Source: Staunton Spectator, 3 March 1898; date supplied by the image citation. View the original clipping.

Death of Mrs. Guthrie.

Mrs. Cornelia, widow of the late George Guthrie, died at the home of her son, William Guthrie in Fishersville, at 8 o’clock Sunday night, aged 82 years. Her death was caused from old age, she having been quite feeble for several months. The end came peacefully and painlessly as though she had fallen into a sweet sleep. The funeral and burial took place Monday afternoon at 3 o’clock at Tinkling Spring church, of which Mrs. Guthrie had been for over 40 years a member, although in late years she had been unable to attend services there on account of feebleness.

Research note: The printed age is 82, differing substantially from her marriage and census ages. If the issue date is correct, the preceding Sunday was 27 February 1898. The notice identifies Tinkling Spring as the place of funeral and burial.

Charles Wingfield Guthrie — Obituary

Source: Undated newspaper clipping. The family research places his death in 1909; that year is not printed in the crop. View the original clipping.

C. W. GUTHRIE DEAD.

The unexpected death of C. W. Guthrie, cashier of Carolina, Clinchfield and Ohio Railway, Saturday night came as a severe shock to the officials of the road and the many friends of the family. He had been ill for only two weeks with typhoid fever, and but few, if any, of his friends believed that the end was so near. Mr. Guthrie was a man of fine character, of sturdy and quiet disposition, and was well liked by the officials of the road. He had made many friends in the city on account of his exemplary life. He leaves a widow and three children. The family formerly came from near Staunton, Va., and the remains were shipped to Basic City, Va., for interment.

Research note: Three surviving children need not mean only three children were born. The notice identifies his railway position and shipment of his remains to Basic City, Virginia; the full issue is needed for an exact publication citation.

2. Catharine A. “Kate” GuthrieSeamstress; recorded with relatives in Virginia and Ohio.

Kate’s childhood census age suggests a birth about 1828. She appears with relatives in several households and worked as a seamstress. She was unmarried in the assembled records, with no identified children. Her death notice places her at the home of her brother-in-law Charles W. Kidwell and describes a long period of disability.

Catharine “Kate” Guthrie — Death Notice

Source: Staunton Spectator, 6 March 1895, p. 3; citation supplied with the image. View the original clipping.

GUTHRIE.—In West End Sunday morning, March 3d at 8.30 o’clock, at the residence of Mr. C. W. Kidwell, her brother-in-law, Miss Kate Guthrie, aged [67?] years.

She had been an invalid for 14 years, during 13 of which she was in a helpless condition.

She was a member of the Methodist church.

Research note: The age remains an uncertain reading, shown as [67?]. The notice identifies Charles Kidwell as her brother-in-law and gives her death as Sunday, 3 March, at his West End residence.

3. John Wingfield Guthrie & Marietta RankinThe Virginia family and the distinct Guthrie sons in Trenton.

John, a farm laborer, married Marietta Rankin, daughter of David and Jane Rankin, on 16 September 1855. The retained 1860 household lists John, twenty-nine; Marietta, twenty; son John, four; and Elizabeth J., one. His obituary gives his death as 14 January 1862, near Rankin’s Church, with a widow and two surviving children.

Marietta married William Copeland, an English-born potter, on 18 February 1866. Their 1870 Trenton household lists the children John, Eliza J., and William under the Copeland surname, along with younger Copeland children. Later records establish separate adult identities for John W. Guthrie and William Guthrie.

John W. Guthrie & Louisa Keating

The younger John was born about 1856–1857. His exact birth date and expanded middle name remain unsettled. He married Louisa Keating on 6 May 1875. The family reconstruction names John, William Keating, Marietta, Lillie, and George; Marietta reportedly died in childhood. His 1911 obituary names four survivors and identifies his municipal employment.

An online reconstruction also gives an unnamed infant a birth and death on 5 August 1856. The original birth or burial record is needed before treating that entry as a separate child or proposing twins.

Elizabeth Jane Guthrie

Elizabeth Jane, born about 1859, appears in the retained 1860 and 1870 households. Her later marriage, death, and possible descendants remain unidentified. Absence from the next household extraction does not resolve her fate.

William Guthrie & Carolina Randon

William, born about 1862, married Carolina Randon on 7 October 1882; one marriage transcription renders his name “Wm J Guthroe.” He worked as a potter in Trenton. Marietta’s 1916 notice expressly calls him her son. His exact birth date must be established before describing him as a posthumous child of John Wingfield.

The compiled child list names Anna M., John Winfield, Frank Ian, Minnie, Florence Irene, Estelle M., Caroline E., and Thomas Theodore. The obituary instead includes a son Joseph. Compare the children’s individual records and the daughters’ married names before changing the family count or merging identities.

John Wingfield Guthrie — Obituary

Source: Staunton Spectator, 4 March 1862, p. 2; citation supplied with the image. View the original clipping.

Near Rankin’s Church, in Augusta county, Va., on the 14th of January, 1862, Mr. JOHN W. GUTHRIE, in the 30th year of his age.

The deceased was amiable and very much beloved by a large circle of relatives and friends. He was exceedingly kind to an aged and afflicted mother, and to the family of which he was a member previous to his marriage. As a church member, he sustained the character of a christian, and has gone, we trust, to the church triumphant, there to receive the reward of his labors. He leaves a young widow and two children to mourn their irreparable loss. May the blessing of a kind Providence rest upon his bereaved family.

R. S.

Research note: The notice gives 14 January 1862, while the memorial card gives 16 January. It identifies two surviving children and a living mother. Its phrase “in the 30th year” differs from other age evidence.

Marietta Rankin Guthrie Copeland — Supplied Transcription

Source: Supplied typed transcription citing Trenton Evening Times, 26 January 1916. The original newspaper has not been independently inspected. View the supplied transcription image.

COPELAND–In this city, on the 25th inst., Marrietta, widow of the late William Copeland. The relatives and friends of the family are invited to attend the funeral from the residence of her son, William Guthrie, No 609 Mulberry Street, on Thursday afternoon at 3:30 o’clock. Interment at Greenwood Cemetery.

Trenton Evening Times 26 January 1916

Research note: This text calls William Guthrie her son and places his home at 609 Mulberry Street, the address in his 1919 obituary. It does not establish his birth date or prove a posthumous birth. “Marrietta” preserves the supplied spelling.

John W. Guthrie of Trenton — Obituary

Source: 29 April 1911, p. 10. The page caption names Trenton Evening Times, while the image filename names Trenton Evening News; the masthead is absent. View the original clipping.

JOHN W. GUTHRIE

John W. Guthrie, assistant superintendent of sewers, died yesterday afternoon at his home, 49 South [Olden?] Avenue. He had been in ill health for some time, but his condition was [not?] considered serious. He was [age unclear] years old and is survived by a wife and four children—John, William, George and Mrs. Chester Powers.

Mr. Guthrie was a member of Trenton Lodge No. 60, K. of P.; Camp No. 17, P. O. S. of A.; Republican Club and Social Order of Owls.

The funeral will be held Monday afternoon at 2 o’clock from the Guthrie home. Services will be conducted by the Rev. George H. Ingram, pastor of the Westminster Presbyterian Church. Interment will be made in Greenwood Cemetery under the direction of Clifford P. Taylor.

Research note: The age and portions of the first paragraph are unclear. If the cited issue date is correct, “yesterday” means 28 April 1911. The occupation, address, and surviving family distinguish him from William Guthrie of Mulberry Street.

William Guthrie of Trenton — Obituary

Source: Trenton Evening Times, 5 February 1919, p. 4; citation supplied with the image. View the original clipping.

WILLIAM GUTHRIE

William Guthrie, well known potter, died this morning at his home, 609 Mulberry Street, after a lengthy illness. He was 57 years old and for 4 years had been employed in the Anchor Pottery. Besides his wife, three sons, John W., with the U. S. army in France; Frank and Joseph, and five daughters, Mrs. George Brophy, Mrs. Herbert Gill and the Misses Florence, Stella and Carrie, survive. He was a member of Capital Circle No. 11, B. of A.; Trenton Lodge No. 100, F. O. E., and Local No. 45, N. B. O. P. The funeral will be held Saturday afternoon at 2 o’clock. The Rev. Clarence Hills, pastor of East Trenton Presbyterian Church, will officiate. Interment will be in Greenwood Cemetery, under direction of Clifford P. Taylor.

Research note: The notice names Anchor Pottery; the family narrative also mentions Greenwood Pottery, perhaps for another period of employment. Its son Joseph needs comparison with the compiled child list naming Thomas Theodore. The widow is not named here.

4. Emily Jane Guthrie, Hall & KidwellTwo marriages, four children, and a home repeatedly named in family notices.

Emily married James Calvin Hall on 31 March 1854. Their children were Bettie Belle, George Edward, and Florence Fay Hall. In the retained 1860 census, James was a millwright; Bettie was four and George three.

The Hall marriage and wartime research

The retained research describes James’s Confederate service, capture at Gettysburg on 3 July 1863, confinement at Fort Delaware, and subsequent enlistment in the U.S. Army. It places his discharge in July 1865 and a marriage to Louisa J. Funkhouser in Vigo County, Indiana, on 11 January 1866. These details should be compared with the complete service, prisoner, and marriage records.

Emily’s 1868 divorce proceedings are described in the research as alleging adultery, bigamy, and abandonment, with a notice published in the Valley Virginian. The complete chancery file and decree are the sources needed for the court’s findings. A separate research note links James to a register of witnesses in the 1865 Lincoln assassination conspiracy proceedings; the actual entry should be retrieved before that connection is expanded.

The Hall children

  • Bettie Belle Hall (born about 1856–1857; died 1923) married Albert Dickinson Lane in Staunton on 30 August 1881. They lived in Roanoke and had sons John Calvin and Oliver Guthrie Lane. Albert worked as a railroad engineer. Lizzie’s notice names a niece, Mrs. A. L. Lane; its initials should be compared with the Lane family’s records.
  • George Edward Hall (1857–1927) married Maggie Mitchell Luck on 27 April 1881. Their children were Edward C., Robert Earl, and Ethel May. George’s employment included work at the Western Lunatic Asylum, the institution’s historical name, and later railroad work as a yardmaster. The family subsequently lived in Charlottesville.
  • Florence Fay Hall (1863–1895) remained unmarried in the assembled research. Her reported death was 28 August 1895 at her mother’s West End home; burial is recorded at Thornrose.

Birth-date conflict: the compiled dates of 6 July 1857 for Bettie and 14 October 1857 for George cannot both be correct for separate births to the same mother. The 1860 ages support an earlier birth for Bettie, but her exact date requires an original record.

The Kidwell family

Emily married Charles W. Kidwell on 30 June 1868. His reported occupations included policeman, steam fitter, and caretaker at Baldwin Seminary. Their son James Hamilton Kidwell (1870–1958) married his first cousin Cornelia Guthrie “Nelle” Lashley in 1893. The couple had five children and later lived in Staunton, where James worked as an engineer in a machine shop.

Emily died on 12 March 1913; Charles survived until 1927. The Kidwell home is named in Kate’s and Sallie’s death notices and Lizzie’s funeral account, preserving its place in the extended family’s history.

5. Elizabeth Mary “Lizzie” GuthrieMillinery, Ohio relatives, and a sudden death in Roanoke.

Lizzie’s early census ages suggest birth about 1834–1835. She was unmarried in the assembled research and worked as a milliner while associated with Cornelia’s family in Ohio. Her death occurred while visiting a niece in Roanoke. The accounts give conflicting years, 1893 and 1894, and the full newspaper issue is needed to resolve them.

Elizabeth Mary “Lizzie” Guthrie — Obituary

Source: Undated clipping headed “VERY SUDDEN,” quoting the previous day’s Roanoke Times and referring to “the POST.” View the original clipping.

VERY SUDDEN.

Miss Lizzie Guthrie Ruptures a Blood Vessel and Dies Immediately.

Yesterday’s Roanoke Times says of the death of Miss Guthrie, which the POST announced yesterday: “Miss Lizzie Guthrie, a Staunton lady, who has been in the city for several weeks with her niece, Mrs. A. L. Lane, on Fourth avenue n. w., for some time, was suddenly stricken with a rupture of a blood vessel leading to the brain, yesterday afternoon about 4 o’clock at Mr. Lane’s home and, despite all efforts, died in about half an hour.

“The deceased was 48 years old, and was thought to be in perfect health. The remains will be sent to Fishersville, Augusta county, on the noon train today and will be interred in the family burying ground at that place.”

Miss Guthrie, whose remains arrived last night, was buried from the residence of Mr. C. W. Kidwell, in West End at 3 o’clock this afternoon. Rev. William Cumming of the Second Presbyterian church conducted the services. The interment was at Thornrose cemetery. The pall-bearers were Messrs. John and Jacob Greaver, Thomas Blackburn and Morgan Byrne.

Research note: The quoted report proposes burial at Fishersville, but the final paragraph records the completed interment at Thornrose. The printed age 48 conflicts with childhood census evidence. The clipping alone establishes neither the reported 12 March date nor the disputed 1893/1894 year.

6. James Hamilton GuthrieMilitary service and conflicting September–October 1861 death dates.

James was thirteen in the 1850 household, supporting birth about 1837. The retained military research identifies him as twenty-four when he enlisted in Company H, 5th Virginia Infantry, Confederate service, on 19 April 1861.

The research describes admission to the Confederate general hospital at Charlottesville on 10 September with typhoid fever and death on 15 September 1861. An October date appears in a claim associated with his mother. The memorial card gives 15 October, while the supplied Bible transcription gives 16 October.

These differences require comparison of the complete military file, hospital return, claim papers, and original family entries. A casualty list is cited to the Staunton Spectator, 4 November 1862. No spouse or child has been identified.

7. Susan Cornelia Guthrie & John William DetterOhio and West Virginia households; Jessie May and the Roy identity question.

Cornelia’s childhood census age places her birth about 1839–1840. She married John William Detter on 18 January 1866 in Fishersville; a marriage transcription renders the surname Decker. John worked as a railroad engineer and later a carpenter. The family appears in Belmont County, Ohio, in 1870 and 1880.

Cornelia’s reported death is 1902, with burial at Dunfee Cemetery in Shadyside. Later research places John with a wife Jennie, identified as Jennie Skillman, in West Virginia. Their marriage and John’s death should be verified independently of the later census entries.

Jessie May Detter

Jessie May (1875–1947) first married John Turner Israel and had a son, Roy Marion, in 1893. She later married Robert Bruce Caplinger in 1897, and Roy used his stepfather’s surname. The retained reconstruction credits Jessie with a large Caplinger family and follows them through Randolph County, West Virginia, including Elkins. Jessie died on 4 July 1947.

Who was Roy in the Detter household?

A six-year-old Roy, born in West Virginia in 1893, appears in the retained 1900 Detter household extraction. The same birth year appears for Jessie’s son Roy. His relationship to the household must be checked against the original census and later records before he is listed as Cornelia’s son. The reported total of five Detter children also requires reconciliation with the original children-born and children-living columns.

8. Sarah Oliver “Sallie” GuthrieSeamstress; the Kidwell and Lashley households; Thornrose burial.

Sallie’s age of nine in 1850 supports birth about 1841. Later ages differ. She worked as a seamstress and was recorded with Emily’s family in Virginia and Amanda’s family in Ohio. No spouse or child is identified.

The family death list gives 17 August 1899. The notice published the following week records her funeral and burial at Thornrose, without naming the exact death day.

Sarah Oliver “Sallie” Guthrie — Obituary

Source: Staunton Spectator, 24 August 1899; date supplied by the page caption. View the original clipping.

MISS SARAH O. GUTHRIE.

Miss Sarah O. Guthrie died in this city last week at the home of Mrs. C. W. Kidwell, after a short illness, aged 50 years. The funeral took place Friday afternoon from the Lutheran church, Dr. J. B. Fox, the pastor, officiating. The following named gentlemen acted as pall-bearers: Morgan Byrne, Jr., T. R. Blackburn, J. S. Denton, J. A. Parrish, Frank Diehl and J. Y. Hensley. The interment was in Thornrose. The deceased is survived by two sisters, Mrs. E. J. Kidwell and Mrs. J. W. Detter, of West Virginia.

Research note: The notice confirms Thornrose burial and names surviving sisters Emily Jane Kidwell and Mrs. J. W. Detter. Its age fifty differs from the approximately 1841 birth inferred from childhood census evidence. The family death list gives 17 August; the clipping itself says “last week.”

9. Amanda L. Guthrie & George W. LashleyA blended Ohio household and the next generation’s Kidwell connection.

Amanda’s earliest census age suggests birth about 1843. She married widower George W. Lashley on 10 December 1873 in St. Clairsville, Belmont County, Ohio. His first wife, Elizabeth Johnston, had died that August. Their children Johnson Rector, Joseph A., and Anna Mariah became Amanda’s stepchildren.

Amanda and George’s daughter was Cornelia Guthrie “Nelle” Lashley (1874–1962). The 1880 household in Mead also included Amanda’s sisters Kate and Sallie. A reported second-cousin relationship between Amanda and George remains a genealogical lead requiring its own connecting records.

Amanda’s family death record gives 5 March 1896, without a place; another summary gives 1898. George later lived in Pennsylvania and married Mary Emma Wilson Dengler. The retained research gives his death as 3 May 1916 in Erie. An “adopted daughter,” Edna Odelle, appears in later census research; her parentage and placement should not be assigned to Amanda without supporting records.

Nelle and James Hamilton Kidwell

Nelle married Emily’s son James Hamilton Kidwell in 1893 in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. Their five-child family connects these two Guthrie sisters’ lines. The household later returned to Virginia, settling in Staunton.

Lashley newspaper research

The retained newspaper leads include a Pittsburgh Press equity-case report dated 6 May 1901, a mistaken-arrest story dated 13 August 1907, and a legal notice captioned 29 May 1908. These are legal and biographical sources, not obituary notices. Complete issues and the underlying case records would allow a fuller assessment of George’s later life.

10. Samuel C. Guthrie & Sallie Louisa WarrenBelmont County marriage, the family memorial, and the widow’s Iowa family.

Samuel’s census and memorial ages suggest birth about 1846–1848. He married Sallie Louisa Warren, daughter of Martin Washington and Hannah Rose Warren, on 25 February 1875 in Belmont County, Ohio.

The family memorial gives his death as 12 December 1886, aged thirty-nine. Ohio is a research lead for the death, not an established location from the memorial itself. No child of Samuel and Sallie has been securely identified.

Sallie married John Robert Rush in Ringgold County, Iowa, on 6 November 1888. The retained 1900 census summary reports three children born and one living; that total does not identify which marriage produced them. Her reported death is 8 October 1907. Birth records, her marriages, and the Rush household should be compared before assigning a child to Samuel.

DNA Participation by Child’s Line

The George Wyatt Guthrie line carries the GFG1A modal Y-DNA, with matching Augusta County, Virginia locations. Recorded autosomal participation also continues through the John Wingfield and Emily Jane lines.

Participation documented in the assembled project records
Child’s LineGuthrie Y-DNABig-YAutosomal DNA
George Wyatt Guthrie✓—✓
Catharine A. “Kate” GuthrieN/AN/A—
John Wingfield Guthrie——✓
Emily Jane GuthrieN/AN/A✓
Elizabeth Mary “Lizzie” GuthrieN/AN/A—
James Hamilton Guthrie———
Susan Cornelia GuthrieN/AN/A—
Sarah Oliver “Sallie” GuthrieN/AN/A—
Amanda L. GuthrieN/AN/A—
Samuel C. Guthrie———

✓ = participation documented for this line. — = participation or testing level not confirmed in the material assembled for this page; it does not establish that nobody has tested. N/A = a daughter does not transmit her father’s Guthrie Y chromosome. Her descendants may participate through autosomal testing. No Big-Y result is confirmed for these child lines in this summary.

Y-DNA follows a direct father-to-son line; Big-Y can refine relationships within that paternal family. Autosomal matches are considered with documented descent and shared ancestry. The absence of an identified descendant for a child remains a research finding, not a genetic conclusion.

Most Wanted DocumentsThe records most likely to resolve the remaining questions.
  • John’s death, burial, and Missouri connection. An estate, deed, church entry, obituary, or family letter identifying his location between the 1850 census and his reported 1852 death.
  • The original White guardianship and marriage papers. Recover the Augusta volume and page references, identify Elizabeth’s mother, and determine whether the 1817 William White will belongs to her father.
  • Original family memorial and Bible pages. Include covers, ownership inscriptions, adjacent pages, and provenance to assess when the entries were made.
  • James Hamilton’s complete military and claim files. Compare hospital, death, and settlement dates with the September and October family entries.
  • Dated and clearer newspaper issues. Resolve Lizzie’s 1893/1894 death year, Kate’s printed age, the younger John W.’s age and newspaper title, and Charles Wingfield’s publication citation.
  • The Trenton children’s birth and marriage records. Keep John W. and William distinct, establish William’s birth chronology, and trace Elizabeth Jane.
  • The Hall divorce file and children’s birth records. Obtain the decree and supporting papers and reconcile Bettie Belle’s and George Edward’s conflicting 1857 dates.
  • The Detter household’s original census and vital records. Resolve Roy’s relationship and the number and identities of Cornelia’s children.
  • Amanda’s death and Samuel’s family. Resolve Amanda’s 1896/1898 date conflict and locate Samuel’s death, burial, and any children of his marriage.
  • Documented descendant pedigrees and test information. Additional direct paternal lines and confirmed Big-Y testing may refine the GFG1A relationships. Please share participant details privately.

Help Build the Family Story

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John and Elizabeth’s family story survives in farm and railroad records, shared households, family memorials, and newspaper notices. The GFG1A Y-DNA match and matching Augusta County locations connect that history to the wider Guthrie family, while the children’s records carry it into Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey.

A Bible page, photograph, letter, marriage record, or dated obituary may help answer the remaining questions. If your research connects with the Guthrie, White, Grass, Rankin, Hall, Kidwell, Detter, Lashley, or Warren families, please share what you have found. Complete images and source details are especially helpful; questions, corrections, and family recollections are welcome, with or without DNA testing.

Researched and curated by Ann Guthrie · Guthrie Genealogy