John William Guthrie 1802VA-1852 & Elizabeth L White
of Amherst County, Virginia, USA

JOHN WILLIAM GUTHRIE
Parents: William Guthrie (bef.1752VA-c1824VA) and Elizabeth Wingfield
Birth: 1802
Birth Location: Amherst County, Virginia, USA
Occupation: Teacher and Farmer
Marriage: 13 December 1824 in Augusta Virginia to Elizabeth L White
Death: 1852
Death Location: Unverified, possibly in Missouri

ELIZABETH L WHITE
Parents: Wiliam White (c1780-c1824VA) and (FNU) Frazier
Birth: About 1803
Birth Location: Augusta County, Virginia
Guthrie Children: George Wyatt (1826), Catherine (1828), John Wingfield (1830), Emily Jane (1833), Elizabeth Mary (1834), James Hamilton (1837), Cornelia Susan (1843), Sarah Oliver (1845), Amanda L (1847), Samuel C (1847)
Death: 18 December 1863
Death Location: Christian’s Creek, Augusta County, Virginia, USA

NOTES:
DNA testing has revealed a lineage documentation / placement error for this family. ‘American Guthrie and Allied Families’ author Laurence R Guthrie had postulated that the Guthrie-White family belonged among the descendants of the Guthrie-Hill family we classify as GFG2A-Branch H. Several trees consequently list John William Guthrie as a son of GFG2A-Branch H’s John Guthrie and Margaret ‘Peggy’ Holmes, also of Augusta County, Virginia, but the direct paternal line Y-DNA testing reveals a match to the GFG1A genetic profile indicating this GFG1A family just happened to be living in the same county as the GFG2A family. Prior to its division into smaller counties, Augusta County, Virginia at one time occupied a very large area.

The correct parents for this John Guthrie are William Guthrie and Elizabeth Wingfield. John was one of 14 children born to the family. His parents had married in Amherst County, VA in 1797.

The 1820 census of Stanton, Augusta County, Virginia lists a John Guthrie (Teacher) in the 16-25 year old category. This John Guthrie would have been 18. Since he married in Augusta County, in 1824, this record may be the first in that location.

He was old enough at the time of his father’s death about 1824 that he did not require a guardian as did his younger siblings. In fact, that was the year he married Elizabeth White. She also experienced the death of her father that year, and was briefly assigned a guardian prior to her marriage.

Elizabeth White, daughter of William White, became an orphan at his death about 1824 in Augusta County, Virginia. A guardian bond was filed on 22 Nov 1824 stating: The condition of the above obligation is such, that if the above bound John McCue executors or administrators shall well and truly pay and deliver, or cause to be paid and delivered unto Elizabeth White orphan of Wm White deceased, all such estate, or estates, as now is, or are, or hereafter shall appear to be due to the said orphan, whe, and as soon as shall attain to lawful age, ow when thereto required by the Justices of the said County Court, s also keep harmless and indemnified the above named Justices, their heirs, executors, and administrators from all trouble and damages that shall or may arise about the said estate or estates, then the above obligation to be void; otherwise to remain in full force. Signed and acknowledged in open court. John McCue, Jefferson Kinney. The father’s will was written on 6 Sep 1817, and recorded 1818 in Will Book 6, page 311 V, which makes no mention of a wife or daughter. He left the bulk of his estate to his brother, Henry White, of New Orleans. He named his slave Charlotte and her daughter Celey granting them emancipation at his death.

The first census year after their marriage, 1830, John Guthrie is not listed as the head of a household, indicating that the recently married couple may have been living within another household.

During the majority of their marriage, John and Elizabeth resided in Augusta County, Virginia, their family being listed in the 1850 census for District 2.
John Guthrie 50 farmer, Elizabeth Guthrie 44, Catharine Guthrie 22, Emily J Guthrie 18, Elizabeth Guthrie 16, James Guthrie 13, Cornelia Guthrie 11, Sarah Guthrie 9, Amanda Guthrie 7, Samuel C Guthrie 4, Jane Frazer 80. Note that Jane Frazier was Elizabeth’s aunt. All are listed as being born in Virginia.

John William Guthrie’s death is listed in trees as 1852, a year listed on a Guthrie memorial card. No location given. His daughter Emily (Guthrie) Kidwell’s obituary listed her parents as the late ‘Mr and Mrs J. William Guthrie’ which provides evidence of his middle name, but is also a clue as to a name variation of how it might be found in the records. He is not listed in the 1860 census with his family, and so is presumed dead by that date.

The 1854 marriage record of eldest son George provides an important clue as it indicates his parents are John and Elizabeth Guthrie of the state of Missouri. Apparently, they had moved to Missouri sometime between 1850 and 1854. The widow apparently made the decision to return to Virginia because she is listed back in Augusta County with her younger children by 1860.

The 1860 census for the North Subdivision of Augusta, VA shows Elizabeth Guthrie as the head of household with their post office located at Burke’s Mill.
Elizabeth Guthrie 52 value personal estate 100; Elizabeth M Guthrie 22; James C Guthrie 21; Susan C Guthrie 18; Amanda L Guthrie 13; Samuel C Guthrie 12; Sarah O Guthrie.

To make matters confusing, the family is living next to an unrelated Guthrie family in 1860. This is potentially another reason why this Guthrie line was suspected of belonging to GFG2A, when YDNA conclusively proves its GFG1A origins. Note that none of their neighbors in the earlier 1850 census were Guthries.

The household is listed next door is that of John G. Guthrie 44 farmer, Adaline B 31, Emma H 10, Walter 8, Alice 6, John 4, and Henry Guthrie 12. This is the family of John Gilkeson Guthrie and his wife Adeline Barclay Paxton of GFG2A-Branch H.

Elizabeth died on 18 December 1863 at Christian’s Creek in Augusta County, Virginia.

Guthrie Children: 10
Y-DNA Project Participants: Yes
Autosomal DNA Participants: Yes

CHILD 1: GEORGE WYATT GUTHRIE
1826VA-1896VA

George Wyatt Guthrie’s marriage and death certificates list his parents as John William Guthrie and Elizabeth White. Note that Author LRG (AGAF, p.60) had erroneously listed him as the son of Haley Guthrie and wife Fanny, a couple associated with GFG2A-Branch H. A direct male descendant of George Wyatt Guthrie is a match for the Genetic profile of GFG1A.

He was born on 25 April 1826,.The eldest of 10 children, George grew up on the family farm in Augusta County, Virginia.

Marriage Record: FHL Film #007578827, img 6

Minister’s Return: “State of Virginia to wit. Smithy Campbell, minister of the gospel, do certify that on the 14th day of March 1854 at the house of Rev. B.M. Smith in the town of Staunton, Va. joined together in the holy state of matrimony. George W Guthrie (Batchelor) aged 27 years and Cornelia Grass (spinster) aged 25 years. Said G.W. Guthrie was born county of Augusta, state of Va. resides in the same, and is the son of John and Elizabeth Guthrie of the state of Missouri–his occupation is as a farmer. The said Cornelia Grass is the daughter of William and Nancy Grass dec’d of the County of Augusta and State of Va. Given under my hand this 17th day of April 1854.” signed —–Campbell

Marriage Bond / License: “This day Adam Bickle made oath before me Deputy Clerk of Augusta County that Cornelia Grass who is about to intermarry with George W. Guthrie is above the age of twenty-one and usually resides in Augusta county. Given under my hand this 13th day of March 1854.” Kinney, DC (deputy clerk)

They had two sons, John William (1855) and Charles Wingfield (1858). In 1860, George was working as a section master on the Central Railroad. Their post office was Staunton.
George Guthrie, 33 male, Real Estate Value: 500, Personal Estate: 200, Born in VA
Cornelia A Guthrie, 33 female, born in VA
John W Guthrie, 5 male, Born in VA
Charles W. Guthrie, 1 male, Born in VA

On 19 April 1861, George W Guthrie enlisted at Fishersville, Augusta, VA as a sergeant in Company H, 5th Infantry Virginia, Confederate States of America. His occupation was listed as a Railroad Supervisor.

The Augusta Rifles (Staunton Spectator – Friday – 7 Sep 1900, p.1, Newspapers.com)
Prior to the Civil War, Augusta County Virginia had volunteer military companies in place. The “Augusta Rifles” were formally organized into the 5th Virginia Infantry Regiment on 19 April 1861. The company roll was prepared by its 1st sergeant, G. W. Guthrie and included both George and his brothers John and James, privates.

The 5th Virginia Infantry Regiment known as the “Fighting Fifth” was part of the Stonewall Brigade in the Army of Northern, Virginia serving under Generals T.J. Jackson, Richard B. Garnett, Charles Sidney Winder, Elisha F. Paxton, James A. Walker and William Terry.

Civil War Service Records – George W Guthrie, Co. H, 5 VA Infantry – National Archives – Digital Repository: Fold3

George was mustered out on 24 July 1862 begin “discharged under the conscript act July 24”.

The 1870 Census lists George and family in South River, Augusta, Virginia. Their post office was Fishersville.
George W Guthrie 44 male white, Section Master RR, Real Estate: 500, Personal Estate:100, VA, Male Citizen
Cornelia A Guthrie, 41 female white, Keeping House, VA
John William guthrie, 15, male white, Apprentice to Blacksmith, VA
Charles W Guthrie, 11 male white, At Home, VA
Junia Kesterson, 70 female white, no occupation, VA, cannot read/write
Kate A Guthrie, 40 female white, seamstress, VA

During his 50s, George’s occupation changed. He worked as a carpenter. The family was still together during the 1880 census in South River, Augusta, Virginia.
Geo. W Guthrie white male 54 Husband married Carpenter
Cornelia Guthrie white female 52 Wife married House Keeping
John Wm Guthrie white male 25 Son single Blacksmith
Charles W Guthrie white male 21 Son single Clerk in a Store

George Wyatt Guthrie was 70 years old at the time of his death on 16 July 1896. His wife and sons survived him. He was buried at Tinkling Spring Presbyterian Church Cemetery in Fishersville, Augusta County, Va. Cornelia died two years later on 27 Feb 1898.

Guthrie Children: 2
1.) John William Guthrie 1855VA-1930VA m. Willie Fontaine Dawson +children
Born on 6 January 1855 in Augusta County, VA, John William Guthrie was listed on the 1860, 1870, and 1880 censuses with his parents and brother Charles Wingfield Guthrie. He was initially listed as an apprentice to a blacksmith and later a blacksmith. He owned his own shop in Fishersville.

John’s marriage to Willie Fontaine Dawson took place when he was 27, on the 27th of September 1882 in Staunton, Augusta, VA. They were parents to: Katherine Lee (1885), Wyatt Dawson (1886), Charles Donald (1887), Claude Wingfield (1889), Mary M (1892) John Richard (1895), and Kent Fontaine (1898).

He was 75 at his death on 28 July 1930 after a long struggle with stomach cancer. William lived until 10 May 1939. She died of bronchial pneumonia. They are interred at Tinkling Spring Presbyterian Church Cemetery.

Guthrie Children: 7
Y-DNA Project Participants: Yes
Autosomal DNA Participants: Yes

2.) Charles Wingfield Guthrie 1858VA-1909TN m. Agness LaZetta Harris +children
Born about 1859 in Augusta County, Virginia, Charles Wingfield Guthrie worked as a cashier for the Carolina, Clinchfield, and Ohio Railway. He was married to Agness LaZetta Harris about 1891. They had four children: Cecil Russel (1892), Merle Cornelia (1893), Clyde Wingfeild (1897), and Eugene Field (1899).

C.W. contracted typhoid fever and was sick for two weeks when he died unexpectedly. Agness died in 1928 in Johnson City, Washington, Tennessee, USA.

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Autosomal DNA Participants: No

CHILD 2: CATHARINE ‘KATE’ A GUTHRIE
1828VA-1895VA

Kate Guthrie was the eldest daughter in the family. She remained single throughout her life. During census years she is listed as living with different relatives. She worked as a seamstress and was a member of the Methodist church. Her obtiuary, dated 6 March 1895, describes her as being in a helpless condition durign the last 13 years of her life.

Children: None
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Female Guthrie
Autosomal DNA Participants: N/A – No descendants

CHILD 3: JOHN WINGFIELD GUTHRIE
c1830VA – 1862VA

John Wingfield Guthrie was born about 1830 presumably in Augusta County, Virginia where his parents were living at the time of their marriage. He was not listed with the family during the 1850 census, when he was about 20 years old. John was a farm laborer. He married Marietta Rankin on 16 Sep 1855, a daughter of David & Jane Rankin. At only 30 years of age, John Wingfield Guthrie died, cause unknown, near Rankin’s Church in Augusta County, Virginia.

Marietta (Rankin) Guthrie remarried when she was 29 years of age on 18 February 1866, four years after John’s death. Her new husband was William Copeland, a son of William and Jane (Steveson) Copeland. A potter, he had been born in England and immigrated to Virginia. They moved to Trenton, Mercer County, New Jersey bringing the Guthrie children with them.

Online trees currently credit John Wingfield Guthrie and wife Marietta with 3 children. An unidentified son born and reportedly died on 5 August 1856, a son named John William Guthrie reportedly born on 5 August 1858, and a daughter, Elizabeth Jane Guthrie, born in 1859.

A critical misidentification error has been identified, with the initial clue being found in the 1870 census. Note that the Guthrie children are listed under their stepfather’s surname: John and Eliza J. There is also a son named William born prior to Marietta’s marriage to William Copeland. This is actually William Guthrie, a posthumous child of John Wingfield Guthrie. Somewhere along the line William Guthrie’s descendants have combined his name with that of his brother. Separate records exist for both men and their families.

Prior to John’s death, the 1860 census had listed his family:
John Guthrie 29 male farm laborer born in Virginia
Marietta Guthrie 20 female born in Virginia
John Guthrie 4 male born in Virginia (about 1856)
Elizabeth J Guthrie 1 born in Virginia (about 1859)

The 1870 census of Trenton Ward 5, Mercer, New Jersey:
William Copland 37 male white Potter, born England, mother and father of foreign birth
Mary Etta Copeland 37 female white Keeps House, born Virginia, mother and father of foreign birth
John Copeland 13 male white No occupation, born Virginia, father of foreign birth (born about 1857)
Eliza J Copeland, 11 female white, born Virginia, father of Foreign birth (born about 1859)
William Copeland Jr 7 male white, born Virginia, father of foreign birth (born about 1863)
Martha Copeland 3 female white, born Virginia, father of Foreign birth
Charles Copeland 3/12 male white, born New Jersey (April), father of foreign birth
Census Notes: John and Eliza are listed under their step-father’s name. This census reveals that John and William are two separate individuals. The 7yr old William Copeland Jr was actually a Guthrie born after John Wingfield Guthrie’s death. Neither John nor William are listed with the family during the 1880 census

Guthrie Children: 3
(2 living at time of father’s death, 1 posthumous birth)
Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Autosomal DNA Participants: Yes

1. John W Guthrie – 1856VA – 1911NJ m. Louisa Keating + children
This man is probably named John Wingfield Guthrie after his father. He is most likely the child born on 5 August 1856. Current trees list an unidentified son born 5 Aug 1856 and died 5 Aug 1856. If there was a documented burial of an infant born on that date, he was potentially a twin to this son. Or did people assume that the eldest son had died because his identity had been combined with that of his younger brother and the age assigned to William no longer fit?

John W Guthrie married Louisa Keating on 6 May 1875. They had 5 children: John, William Keating, Marietta, Lillie, and George. Like William Copeland, their son John became a potter. Daughter Marietta died at aged 2. The names, residence, and occupations fit with the family story.

They’re even buried in the same place. John W. Guthrie died on 28 April 1911 and his remains were buried at Greenwood Cemetery in Mercer County, New Jersey.

Guthrie Children: 5
Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Autosomal DNA Participants: No

2. Elizabeth Jane Guthrie – born 1859VA – died after 1870 – marriage/children: unknown
Daughter Eliza Jane was enumerated wiih her family in 1860 and 1870, but not in 1880. Unknown if she died during childhood or eventually married.

Children: Unknown
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Female Guthrie
Autosomal DNA Participants: No Known Descendants

3. William Guthrie – born 1862 VA – died 1919 NJ – m. Carolina Randon children
This is the son who has been erroneously listed as John William Guthrie. Most records simply list him as William Guthrie. One transcription of his marriage record to Carolina Randon for 7 Oct 1882 lists him as “Wm J Guthroe”. Like his step-father, William Copeland, William Guthrie became a potter for the Greenwood Pottery Company. He and his wife Carolina were parents to 8 children: Anna M (1883), John Winfield (1891), Frank Ian (1893), Minnie (1895), Florence Irene (1897), Estelle M (1899), Caroline E (1901), and Thomas Theodore (1907).

William Guthrie died 5 February 1919 in Trenton. His widow Carolina lived until 1934.

Guthrie Children: 8
Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Autosomal DNA Participants: Yes

CHILD 4: EMILY JANE GUTHRIE
1833VA – 1913VA
Emily Jane Guthrie was born in Augusta, Virginia on 18 March 1833. She was listed as 18 on the 1850 census having already had her birthday that year. She was twice married. Her first husband was James Calvin Hall whom she married on 31 March 1854. They had three children: Bettie Belle (1857), George Edward (1857), and Florence Fay (1863).

The 1860 census shows:
James C Hall 29 male Mill Wright, Personal Estate: 325, Born in Virginia
Emily Hall 26 female, born in Virginia
Bettie B Hall 4 female, born in Virginia
George E Hall 3 male, born in Virginia

James Hall fought for the Confederacy serving as a Quartermaster Sergeant and later a Sergeant Major. He was captured at Gettysburg on 3 July 1863 and transported to Fort Delaware. There, he took an Oath of Allegiance and joined the U.S. Army. Bill Woods tree mention that several members of James Hall’s former CSA unit were included in the list of possible conspirators in the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. Sgt. Hall is on the register of witnesses for the Conspiracy Trial in May 1865 in Washington D.C.

James C Hall was discharged from the Army on 25 July 1865 in Wilmington, Delaware. Instead of returning to Virginia, he went to Indiana where he married Louisa J Funkhouser on 11 Jan 1866 in Vigo. He resumed his pre-war occupation as a mill wright with a flour mill.

Emily sued her husband for divorce in 1868 on the basis of adultery, bigamy, and abandonment. He failed to show up in Chancery Court satisfying the judge that he was no longer a resident of Virginia. It was ordered by the court that Hall appear and notice was published in the Valley Virginian for four consecutive weeks. The divorce was granted.

On 30 June 1868, Emily remarried to Charles W Kidwell. He worked as a policemen at the start of hteir marriage, but held a variety of jobs working as a steam fitter, and later a care taker at the Baldwin Seminary. They had one son, James Hamilton Kidwell (1870). Emily died on 12 March 1913 in Staunton, Augusta, Virginia. Her husband Charles survived her by 14 years.

Hall Children: 3
Kidwell Children: 1
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Female Guthrie
Autosomal DNA Participants: Yes

1.) Bettie Belle Hall (1857VA-1923VA) m. Albert D Lane +children
Bettie was born on 6 July 1857 in Augusta County, Virginia. Her father went to war and then abandoned the family when she was still very young. She was 24 at her marriage to Albert Dickinson Lane in Staunton on 30 August 1881. He was a son of John and Elizabeth (Jackson) Lane.They settled in Roanoke, Virginia where they owned their home. Albert worked as a railroad engineer. They had two sons: John Calvin Lane (1881) and Oliver Guthrie Lane (1882). Albert died in 1921 and Bettie in 1923. They are buried at Fair View Cemetery in Roanoke.
Lane Children: 2
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Descendant of a Female Guthrie
Autosomal DNA Participants: No

2.) George Edward Hall (1857VA-1927VA) m. Maggie Mitchell Luck +children
The second child of the family was born on 14 Oct 1857. George Hall was listed with his mother and siblings during the 1860 census of Augusta, VA. They were living in South River in 1870 with their stepfather. By 1880, George was still single, but working as an attendant at the Western Lunatic Asylum. He married Maggie Mitchell Luck on 27 April 1881 in Staunton. They had three children: Edward C (1882), Robert Earl (1883), and Ethel May (1884). George began working for the Railroad as a Yard Master. George and Maggie moved to Charlottesville, Ablemarle, VA. Maggie died there in 1925 from uterine cancer. She was 66. George died on 11 Jan 1927 at 69 years of age from kidney and cardiac disease.
Hall Children: 3
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Descendant of a Female Guthrie
Autosomal DNA Participants: Yes

3.) Florence Fay Hall (1863VA – 1895VA) – unmarried / no children
Daughter Florence Fay Hall was born in Augusta County, Virginia on 1 March 1863. She never married. Florence was a member of the Methodist church. She died at the home of her mother, Mrs. C.W. Kidwell, at West End, on 28 August 1895. She is buried at Thornrose Cemetery in Staunton, Augusta, Virginia.
Children: None
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Descendant of a Female Guthrie / No Descendants
Autosomal DNA Participants: N/A – No Descendants

4.) James Hamilton Kidwell (1870VA-1958VA) m. Cornelia Guthrie Lashley +children
This son was Emily’s only child by her second husband, Charles W Kidwell. He was born on 9 August 1870 in Fishersville, Augusta, VA. He married a cousin, Cornelia Guthrie Lashley in 1893 Allegheny, Pennsylvania. They had five children: Florence Amanda (1897), Lorinne Wingfield (1899), Alfred Guthrie (1901), Emily Jean (1906), and Anna C (1909). After the 1900 census they moved from Beverly Manor, Augusta, VA to Staunton, VA. James worked as an engineer in a machine shop.
Kidwell Children: 5
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Descendant of a Female Guthrie
Autosomal DNA Participants: No

CHILD 5: ELIZABETH MARY GUTHRIE
c1835VA – 1894VA

Elizabeth Mary or ‘Lizzie’ Guthrie was born about 1835 in Augusta County, Virginia. She never married. When her younger sister Susan Cornelia Guthrie married John William Jetter and moved to Belmont, Ohio, Lizzie went with them. She found work as a milliner. On 12 March 1893, Lizzie had been visiting with a niece when she died suddenly. She was only about 48 per her obit, but actually about ten years older. Her remains were returned to Fishersville for burial in the family plot.
Children: None
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Descendant of a Female Guthrie / No Descendants
Autosomal DNA Participants: N/A – No Descendants

CHILD 6: JAMES HAMILTON GUTHRIE
1837VA – 1861VA
Born in Augusta County Virginia about 1837. This date is consistent with the 1850 census when James is listed as 13 (born about 1837). James H Guthrie was documented as 24 years old (born about 1837) when he joined Company H, 5th Virginia Infantry Regiment on 19 April 1861. He contracted typhoid fever, was admitted to the CSA General Hospital in Charlottsville, Virginia on the 10th of September and died five days later on 15 Sep 1861. Read the details on his Civil War Service Records (Fold3). His age of 24 also appears on the family Memorial Card, although it lists his DOD as 15 Oct instead of 15 Sep 1861. The October date is found in the Fold3 records in a letter that is part of the pension claim due to his mother. A casualty list that included James H Guthrie’s name was published in the Staunton Spectator on 4 Nov 1862. James Hamilton Guthrie was unmarried at the time of his death and without issue.
Guthrie Children: None
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – No Descendants
Autosomal DNA Participants: N/A – No Descendants

CHILD 7: SUSAN CORNELIA GUTHRIE
abt. 1840VA – 1902OH

Susan ‘Cornelia’ Guthrie was born around 1840 in Virginia. Her marriage on 18 Jan 1866 in Fishersville was to John William Detter. The transcription of the license reads Decker rather than Detter. John Worked as a railroad engineer and later as a carpenter. During the 1870 and 1880 censuses they lived in Belmont County, Ohio. They had five children, two of whom are known: Jessie May (1875) and Roy (1893). By 1900 only one child was still listed living, Roy, but their daughter Jessie had married and moved to West Virginia by that date. Cornelia died in 1902 in Belmont, OH. She is buried at Dunfee Cemetery in Shadyside. John looks to have remarried to a Jennie Skillman. No children. They resided in Benwood, Marshall, WV during the 1910 and 1920 censuses. THer eis no sign of John in 1930, but Jennie appears to be listed as an inmate of the Marshall County Infirmary. Jennie died on 12 March 1933 at the Weston State Hospital and is buried at that cemetery. Her death certificate listed her as a widow indicating that John had died prior to that date.
Detter Children: 5
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Female Guthrie
Autosomal DNA Participants: No

1.) Jessie May Detter (1875OH-1947WV) m1.John Turner Israel, m2.Robert Bruce Caplinger +children
Jessie May was born on 3 March 1875 in Belmont County, Ohio. She was only 17 at the time of her first marriage to John Turner Israel. They had one son, Roy Marion (1893). This marriage presumably ended in divorce as both Jessie and John remarried. Her second marriage was to Robert Bruce Caplinger in 1897. Roy took his Caplinger stepfather’s surname. Jessie and Robert went on to have 5 sons and 4 daughters: Hilda Brune (1895), st. Clair (1899), Clyde (1901), John (1903), Robert Guy (1903), Julius C (1905), Edith (1908), Olive L (1915), and Elaine (1919). The family lived primarily in Randolph County, West Virginia, initially in Beverly and Leadsville, and finally settling in Elkins. Caplinger was a Justice of the Peace. Jessie died on Independence Day, 4 July 1947 having a coronary thrombosis. She died in the car on the way to the hospital. Her husband outlived her by 2 years.
Israel Children: 1
Caplinger Children: 9
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Descendant of a Female Guthrie
Autosomal DNA Participants: No

2.) Roy Detter – (1893 WV – 19??) – marriage/children unknown
Roy Deter was bor about August 1893 in West Virginia. He is listed with the family on the 1900 US Census of Union, Marshall, WV when he was 6. His older sister Jessie was already married and out of the house by that time. Roy disappears from the records at that point. There are several potential candidates born about the same time living in different states.

CHILD 8: SARAH ‘SALLIE’ OLIVER GUTHRIE
Abt. 1841 VA – 1899VA
Sarah Guthrie aka Sallie was born about 1841 according to the earliest census record during her childhood listing her as 9 years old in 1850. Like many single ladies, her exact age was a moving target over the years. In 1870, she was living in South River, Augusta, VA with her sister Emily J Kidwell and family. She was listed as 24 (born 1846) and was working as a seamstress. During the 1880 census, Kate and Sallie, both unmarried sisters were helping with the housekeeping in their younger sister Amanda L (Guthrie) Lashley’s home in Mead, Belmont, Ohio. The Find-a-Grave site lists Sallie’s death on the 7th, but it would have been the 17th, which is also noted in a list of family deaths kept by E.J. Kidwell. Her obituary, published on August 24th indicates that her death was the previous week.
Children: None
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Female Guthrie / No Descendants
Autosomal DNA Participants: N/A – No Descendants

CHILD 9: AMANDA L GUTHRIE
Abt. 1843 VA – 1898OH

Amanda Guthrie was born about 1843 according to the earliest census record listing her as aged 7 in 1850. Find-a-Grave info lists her The 1860 census listed her as only 13 (born about 1847). That age remained consistent in 1870 when she was reported as being 23 (born about 1847).

Amanda L Guthrie married her second cousin George W. Lashley on 10 Dec 1873 in Saint Clairsville, Belmont County, Ohio. He had been previously married to Elizabeth Johnston on 25 May 1865. She died on 30 August 1873 in Pultney, Belmont, Ohio. Elizabeth was the mother of the first three Lashley children: Johnson Rector (1866), Joseph A (1868) and Anna Mariah (1873). Amanda became their stepmother. She gave birth to Cornelia Guthrie known as “Nelle” (1874). The family lived in Mead, Belmont, OH during the 1880 census. Two of Amanda’s unmarried sisters, Catherine and Sallie were also living with them.

Amanda died 5 March 1896 according to the family record, but it gives no information as to location. George W Lashley apparently moved to Avalon, Allegheny, PA where he remarried to Mary Emma (Wilson) Dengler. His death is recorded on a PA Death Certificate for 3 May 1916 in Erie, PA. Census records show an “adopted daughter” Edna Odelle Lashley born Dec 1890 in Pennsylvania.

An Equity Case was decided by Judge R.S. Frazer regarding the suit of Renwick Bros. & Co. against George W. Lashley and Others. (The Pittsburgh Press, 6 May 1901, Monday, p2.)

In a real case of mistaken identity, the Pittsburg Press on Tuesday, 13 Aug 1907 reported: Contractor is Arrested by Mistake – Wealthy Avalon Resident was in Cell white Family Reported him Mysteriously Missing – Is finally released but sworn to secrecy. Apparently two city detectives thought George looked like a local criminal.

Lashley Children: 1
1.) Cornelia ‘Nelle’ Guthrie Lashley (1874OH-1962VA) m.James Hamilton Kidwell +children
Nelle was born on 19 January 1874 in Belmont, Ohio. She moved to Pennsylvania with her parents when her father’s work as a contractor took them there. At the age of 19, she married cousin James Hamilton Kidwell, the son of Charles W and Emily Jane (Guthrie) Kidwell. They had five children: Florence Amanda (1897), Lorinne Wingfield (1899), Alfred Guthrie (1901), Emily Jean (1906), and Anna C (1909). After the 1900 census they moved from Beverly Manor, Augusta, VA to Staunton, VA. James worked as an engineer in a machine shop.
Kidwell Children: 5
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – Descendant of a Female Guthrie
Autosomal DNA Participants: No

CHILD 10: SAMUEL C GUTHRIE
Abt. 1848VA – 1886OH

Samuel C Guthrie was born about 1848 in Augusta County, Virginia. He was the youngest child in the family. No census record found for 1870. He was located in Belmont, ohio by 25 Feb 1875 where he married Sallie Louisa Warren, daughter of Martin Washington and Hannah Rose Warren. Samuel died on 12 Dec 1886, presumably in Ohio. No known children.

Sallie ended up in Ringgold, Iowa where she remarried to John Robert Rush on 6 Nov 1888. The 1900 census reports that she had 3 children only one of whom was living at that time. Sallie died on 8 Oct 1907.
Guthrie Children: 0
Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A – No Known Descendants
Autosomal DNA Participants: N/A – No Known Descendants

READING and RESOURCES

MOMENTO: Guthrie Memorial Card, Photocopy if a memorial card sent by Winston R Hall to Sydney Wood Sivertsen in 1996. Digital Repository: Ancestry.com.
In Fond Remembrance Of
My Dear Ones.
JOHN GUTHRIE,
Died in 1852; Aged 50 Years
ELIZABETH GUTHRIE,
Died December 17, 1863; Aged 59 Years.
JOHN W. GUTHRIE
Died January 16, 1862; Aged 30 Years.
James H. Guthrie,
Died October 15, 1861; Aged 24 Years.
SAMUEL C Guthrie,
Died 12 Dec 1886; Aged 39 Years.

BIBLE RECORD: Hall Family Bible (Death Page), Original Record in possession of William E Wood, Jr. Digital Repository: Ancestry.com
“In memory of James Hamilton Guthrie who died in the service of his country Oct 16th 1861 in the 24th year of his age.”
“John Wingfield Guthrie departed this life January 14th 1862 in the 32 year of his age.”
” Sacred to the memory of Elizabeth L Guthrie who departed this life December 18th 1863 in the 58th year of her age.”

DEATH NOTICE of ELIZABETH L GUTHRIE:

Civil War Service Records – George W Guthrie, Co. H, 5 VA Infantry – National Archives – Digital Repository: Fold3

WEBSITE: Lincoln Conspiracy Trials (1865)

NEWSPAPER ARTICLES: Sourced from Newspapers.com

DOCUMENTS: FHL Film # 007643859, Images 643-644. At a Court held for Amherst County the 19 Sep 1825. Bonds re: Estate of William Guthrie and orphans by Elizabeth Guthrie. Will Book No. 6 with Inventories & Accounts 1818-1827, Pages 619-621. Digital Repository: Family Search

DOCUMENTS: FHL Film #007643860, Images 80 and 81. At a Court Held for Amherst County 17 Mar 1828. Guardianship Bond by Elizabeth Guthrie. Will Book No. 7 with Inventories & Accounts 1827-1830, Pages 145-146. Digital Repository: Family Search

DOCUMENTS: FHL Film # 007643860, Image 101. At a Court Held for Amherst County on 17 Nov 1828. Bond re: Estate of William Guthrie, un-administered by Elizabeth Guthrie, deceased. Signed by Campbell Franklin, Thomas Franklin, Jno. Guthrie, and Nicholas Guthrie. Will Book No. 7 with Inventories & Accounts 1827-1830, Pages 188-190. Page 187. Digital Repository: Family Search

DOCUMENTS: FHL Film # 007643860, Image 102 – 103. At a Court Held for Amherst County on 17 Nov 1828. Bonds re: Estate of Elizabeth Guthrie. Will Book No. 7 with Inventories & Accounts 1827-1830, Pages 188-190. Digital Repository: Family Search

DOCUMENTS: FHL Film # 007643860, Image 295. At a Court Held for Amherst County, on 21 Mar 1832. Guardianship Bond by Nicholas Guthrie, Thos. Dinglefield, Nathan Guthrie. Will Book 8 with Inventories & Accounts 1830-1834, Page 187. Digital Repository: Family Search

DOCUMENTS: FHL Film # 007644996, Image 101, Franklin County Court Jan 1840. Division of the Estate of John Wingfield, decd, including the heirs of Elizabeth Guthrie. Franklin County Virginia Will Book No. 5 with Inventories & Accounts 1837-1845, Page 178. Digital Repository: Family Search