Guthrie Family Group 5 – Branch H
Thomas Guthrie 1744 – 1837KY and Mildred Howell
of Fauquier County, Virginia and Woodford County, Kentucky

Thomas Guthrie is documented by author Lawrence R. Guthrie in ‘American Guthrie and Allied Families’ as the son of James Guthrie and his wife (FNU) Bussell / Bissell. Read the story ‘Robert, John, & James: Ironmongers of Edinburgh‘ on this site for details about this hypothetical family and its associations. Also read the Correspondence of LRG, Clara Harrison Guthrie, and Frank C Guthrie (Reading & Resources, below) for the origins of this theory.

These relationships have now been proven to be unfounded by direct paternal line genetic (Y-DNA) testing, and any connection to Pennsylvania uncertain. Thomas Guthrie’s line belongs instead to Guthrie Family Group 5. This group includes other branches that emigrated from Virginia into Kentucky.

We do not know at this time exactly where Thomas Guthrie fits into the big picture for Guthrie Family Group 5. This group has several branches that are likely to have common ties in Virginia. We suspect a link to the Guthrie Family of King and Queen County, Virginia, but cannot prove it at this time. There are also a couple of other lineages believed to belong to the group still pending Y-DNA testing.

In 1792, Thomas Guthrie was living in Fauquier County, Virginia where he leased a farm of 148 acres on Rocky Run for the term of Thomas’ life as well as the lifetime of his son John. Thomas and his family moved on to Woodford County, Kentucky about 1797 (tax records) where he and his wife remained until their deaths.

THOMAS GUTHRIE
Parents: Unidentified (Now Genetically Proven to be Unrelated to the Guthrie-Bissell Family)
Birth: 1744
Birth Location: Unknown, but probably Virginia
Marriage: Mildred Howell about 1772 (est.)
Occupation: Farmer
Military Service: Uncertain, unless in PA with the Cumberland County Militia, 1777
Death: 1837
Death Location: Woodford County, Kentucky, USA
Burial: Unknown, presumably in Woodford County, Kentucky, USA

MILDRED HOWELL
Parents: Unidentified
Birth: 1748
Birth Location: Unknown, but probably Virginia
Children: Mary (1773), Thomas (1776), John (1777), James (1779), William (1784), Nancy (1785), Elizabeth (1787), Mildred (1792), Robert (1794), Caleb (1798)
Death: March 1824
Death Location: Woodford County, Kentucky, USA
Burial: Unknown, presumably in Woodford County, Kentucky, USA

NOTES:

GUTHRIE CHILDREN: 10
Y-DNA Project Participants: YES
Autosomal DNA Participants: YES

LINKED CHILD PAGES:

1.) Mary ‘Polly’ Guthrie (1773 – p.1830KY) m.1797KY John Frawner +children
2.) Thomas Guthrie Jr (1776 – 1848MO) m1.1805-10 Lucy Wood +chidren; m2.1831 Mrs Matilda (Dorsey) Griffith +children; m3. “The Widow” (MNU) Chancy.
3.) John Guthrie (1777-1848MO) m1.Molly Bridgeford +children; m2.1814KY Margaret Tiller +children
4.) James Guthrie (1779-1840KY) m.1902KY Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ Gibbs +children
5.) William A Guthrie (1784VA-1854MO) m.1822KY Mary L Yeates +children
6.) Nancy Guthrie (1785VA-1842MO) m.1808KY Richard Bridgeford) +children
7.) Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ Guthrie (1787VA-1875KY) m.1811KY James Lawrence Gibbs +children
8.) Mildred ‘Milly’ Guthrie (1792VA-1854KY) m.1810KY Adam Montgomery +children
9.) Robert Guthrie (1794VA-1842KY) m.1815KY Sarah ‘Sally’ Long +children
10.) Caleb Guthrie (1798KY-1878KY) m.1817KY Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ Smith +children

Guthrie Family Group: GFG5
Guthrie Family Group Designation – Branch H

Projected Haplogroup: R-M269
Confirmed Haplogroup: R-BY11862

Y-DNA Participants: 3

Kit 1002703 (YDNA + AncestryDNA)
Thomas Guthrie/Mildred Howell > James Guthrie / Elizabeth Gibbs > James Guthrie / Frances Smith > Andrew Smith Guthrie / Lucy Tribble Conner > John Andrew Smith Guthrie / Pearl M Hardin (GGP)

The only other Y-DNA evidence currently on board is that of two close cousins whose direct paternal line tests show that their Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) does not match any established Guthrie Y-DNA Profile. Now that we have Y-DNA evidence from a descendant of another Guthrie-Howell son, it proves that their more recent line from the shared MRCA is a genetic mismatch to the original GFG5 Y-DNA genetic profile. They have now been placed into a GFG5 subgroup, GFG5C. What is unknown is whether their MRCA, William Taylor Guthrie, was the first to possess the ‘other’ YDNA or if the genetic mismatch goes all the way back to Thomas Guthrie Jr’s generation.

Sub-Group: GFG5C
Kit 178769: Thomas Guthrie/Mildred Howell > Thomas Guthrie / Lucy Wood > William D Guthrie / Clarissa Griffith > William TaylorGuthrie b.1846 (MRCA)
Kit 200505: Thomas Guthrie/Mildred Howell > Thomas Guthrie / Lucy Wood > William D Guthrie / Clarissa Griffith > William TaylorGuthrie b.1846 (MRCA)

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Participants:

Kit 243531
Thomas Guthrie/Mildred Howell > Robert Guthrie/Sarah Jane Long > Mary Elizabeth Guthrie/Samuel Landrum > Clarence Underwood Landrum/Lyda Belle Scott (GGP)

Kit 286576
Thomas Guthrie/Mildred Howell > Robert Guthrie/Sarah Jane Long > Mary Elizabeth Guthrie/Samuel Landrum > Clarence Underwood Landrum/Lyda Belle Scott (GGP)

Kit 319313
Thomas Guthrie/Mildred Howell > Caleb Guthrie/Elizabeth Betsy Smith > Mary Guthrie/George Caplinger Price > Mildred Anna Price/William E VanArsdale > Maud VanArsdale/James B Calloway > John Lynnwood Callaway Sr/Martha Frances Emerick (GGP)

Kit 338179
Thomas Guthrie/Mildred Howell > James Guthrie/Elizabeth Gibbs > Isaac Newton Guthrie/Mary Beauchamp > James William Guthrie/Mary E Johnson > Jennie E Guthrie/John Clarke McClinton (GGP)

Kit B9950 
Thomas Guthrie/Mildred Howell > William A Guthrie/Mary L Yates > Nancy Guthrie/Joseph J Kelly > Verlinda Kelley/Alexander Carey > Alexander Babcock Carey/Daisy Payne Clark > Hazel D Carey/William J Smith (GGP)

Kit B76265
Thomas Guthrie/Mildred Howell > Elizabeth Guthrie/James Lawrence Gibbs (4xGGP) > No Further Lineage Provided

Kit B89344
Thomas Guthrie/Mildred Howell > Caleb Guthrie/Elizabeth Betsy Smith > Coleman Guthrie/Mary J Crawford > George C Guthrie/Imogene Foster (GGP)

Kit B252532
Thomas Guthrie/Mildred Howell > William Guthrie/Mary Yeates > Nancy Guthrie/Joseph Kelly (4xGGP)

BOOK: Railey, William Edward, ‘History of Woodford County, Kentucky‘, Roberts Print. Co., Frankfort. KY, 1928, Digital Repository: Ancestry.com [See p.281 Thomas Guthrie and wife…]

BOOK: Guthrie, Laurence Rawlins. ‘American Guthrie and allied families : lineal representations of the colonial Guthries of Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Maryland, Delaware, Virginia, North and South Carolina, some post-revolutionary emigrants and of some allied families‘, Chambersburg, Pa.: Kerr Print. Co., c1933. Digital Repository: Ancestry.com [See p.267 – Thomas Guthrie and Descendants]

CORRESPONDENCE: Genealogical Correspondence by Laurence R Guthrie (PA), Clara Harrison Guthrie (VA), & her uncle Frank C Guthrie (TN).
These letters had been digitized and were uploaded by Family Search as ‘Clara Guthrie correspondence of Alexandria, VA‘ however there is a linking error that they cannot seem to fix. These documents remain in my personal possession. Topics include general Guthrie genealogy as well as the speculation on the origins of this family.

The entire section of LRG’s book relating the story of Thomas Guthrie and Descendants was compiled by Clara Harrison Guthrie (1881TN-1973VA), a daughter of George Nuchols Guthrie and Ellen Cary Hobson, in collaboration with LRG. (See AGAF, p.267) It is clear that the identity of Thomas Guthrie’s parents was unknown as they speculated on potential candidates.

They concluded that the Thomas Guthrie who married Mildred Howell and settled in Fauquier County, Virginia must somehow be related to one of the Pennsylvania families that LRG was researching. They believed they identified him as:

Thomas Guthrie from Middleton, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, potentially the one found in 1777 among the Associators and Militia for the County of Cumberland, PA, 3rd Battalion, Privates, 1st Class in Service, under charge of Captain John McTeer. (PA Archives Series 5 Volume 6, p.205). He was also listed in 1779 as a Freeman of Middleton Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, for Supply Tax Rates of 4 pounds, 10 shillings. (PA Archives Series 3, Volume 20, p.205).

Clara initially speculated that Thomas Guthrie was a son or descendant of GFG2A-Branch E’s Robert Guthrie and Bridget Dougherty of Carlisle, PA. LRG ended up placing him in his theorized Guthrie-Bissell family, now known as GFG2A-Branch I. Working without the benefit of genetic evidence they looked for clues in the wrong place. Thomas Guthrie’s genetic matches reveal that he actually descends from GFG5, a Guthrie Family Group with some early roots in colonial Virginia.

LRG’s original correspondence includes a large folder containing the letters between LRG (in PA), Clara Harrison Guthrie (in VA), and her uncle, Frank C Guthrie (in TN). Excerpts:

A letter dated 5 May 1925 from Clara Guthrie to LRG. “I am firmly of the opinion that Thomas Guthrie is one of the early Pennsylvania Guthrie’s crossing over into Fauquier County, VA. I am corresponding with some of the descendants of Robert Guthrie of Carlisle, Pa., and I believe Thomas was the son of James Guthrie who died at the age of 24 years. Robert married Bridget as you will remember in the Dunn Guthrie Book.”

This establishes that the primary family source for the Guthrie-Howell line was actively theorizing about Thomas Guthrie’s origins. It is interesting to note that her thoughts about Thomas’ father also named a James Guthrie, but instead was the son of the GFG2A-Branch E line rather than the GFG2A-Branch I lineage that was finally published by LRG in ‘American Guthrie and Allied Families’, p.267.

A letter from Frank C Guthrie to LRG dated 4 June 1923 discussed family theory, but may be tangled up with the PA story. “This was that Thomas Guthrie, Sr. had three brothers, James, John, and Robert or William, and while James remained in Virginia, he thought one of the others went to Pennsylvania, another to North Carolina, and Thomas to Kentucky, this however, is not so firmly established as to preclude correction, and it is now up to you to verify or straighten out this part of the narrative as best you can.”

In a short letter from two years earlier dated 12 June 1923, Clara writes, “Dr Guthrie of Louisville, Ky told me last year that his Aunt Mrs Underwood who has also been dead some time, said, James G. married a Miss Bussle & was the father of Thomas Guthrie who married Mildred Howell. Have you found any records of Miss Bussle? I do not know whether Thomas Sr had any brothers or not, as we have not been able to find Thomas’ father on record, I don’t know about his brothers.” 

Another letter dated 2 Oct 1925 addressed to LRG suggests their information had been collected into a formalized family history: “My dear Mr Guthrie– Uncle Frank Guthrie spent the day with me yesterday and was very much pleased with the data– or rather “A History of the Early Guthries in America” by Clara Harrison Guthrie and Laurence Rawlins Guthrie– dedicated to Frank C Guthrie.” She writes that before publication he must “spend all of your time & efforts on Thomas — we must find his father and mother.” Then finally notes, “It may be after all his father was not James.”

Both Frank C Guthrie and Clara Harrison Guthrie contributed heavily to the search for Thomas Guthrie’s past searching lineages in both Virginia and Pennsylvania without pinning down any hard evidence. It seems they latched onto the idea that Thomas’ father was named James and that he married a “Miss Bussle”. (Note that if the Dr Guthrie mentioned is Herbert Smith Guthrie 1880-1924 from Louisville’s 1920 census, his ancestor Thomas Guthrie was actually unrelated to Clara and Frank’s ancestors in KY. So the doc’s Aunt Mrs Underwood would have been speaking about some other person’s potential relations.)

Basically, the original idea that Thomas Guthrie was a son of James Guthrie and Miss Bissell was just hearsay. Confusion about shared ancestry between Guthrie families that were not actually related may have also pointed our family researchers in the wrong direction, seemingly leaving them fixated on Pennsylvania as the focal point for their family line instead of Virginia. None of the correspondence in LRG’s folder references the Howell side of their family.

BOOK: Guthrie, W. Hardin. Genealogy of the Guthrie Family (Unpublished Draft). Digital Repository: Guthrie Genealogy.
This book covers a number of Guthrie subjects probably compiled by the author from the notes of his father, Frank C Guthrie (see above). The last sections/chapters of the book cover Thomas Guthrie and Mildred Howell and Family.
p.126 – Thomas Guthrie his Antecedents and Descendants
p.149 – Genealogy of the Southern Branch of the Guthrie Family by F.C. Guthrie and Clara H. Guthrie. This appears to be a title page only as it is followed by the 1792 Fauquier, VA lease by Thomas Guthrie.
p.167 – Family of Isaac Newton Guthrie (grandson of Thomas Guthrie Sr/Mildred Howell)

BOOK: Darnell, Ermina Jett. ‘Forks of Ekhorn Church‘, Baltimore, MD, Genealogical Publishing Co., 2002. Digital Repository: Ancestry.com
[See p160 Thomas Guthrie and Mildred Howell family info.]

WEBSITE: KYGenWeb – Biographical Sketch of James Guthrie, great-grandson of Thomas Guthrie & Mildred Howell. [An excerpt from the 6th edition of ‘Kentucky : a history of the state, embracing a concise account of the origin and development of the Virginia colony; its expansion westward, and the settlement of the frontier beyond the Alleghanies; the erection of Kentucky as an independent state, and its subsequent development’ by Battle, Perrin, & Kniffin, 1887.]

BOOK: ‘Kentucky: A History of the State, an Account of the Origin and Development of the Virginia Colony.’ Louisville, KY, F.A. Battey and Co., 1887. Digital Repository: Ancestry.com

BOOK: ‘History of Monroe and Shelby Counties, Missouri, including a history of their townships, towns, and villages‘, National Historical Company, St. Louis, Missouri, 1884. Digital Repository: HathiTrust. [See Biographical Sketch of Jefferson Bridgford, son of Nancy Guthrie and Richard Bridgford, pp.525 (img 545) – 527 (img547).

We will now need to dive into the records of Fauquier County, Virginia and those associated with GFG5.

FORMATION of FAUQUIER COUNTY, VIRGINIA:
Fauquier County, VA was formed 1 May 1759 from Prince William County, which had been formed from parts of Stafford and King George Counties in March 1731. Stafford had been formed from Westmoreland County in 1664. Check out the Interactive Virginia County Formation Maps. Here’s the one for 1759.

Thomas Guthrie is known to be in Fauquier County Virginia by 1792. Whether he was actually born in Virginia and living in Fauquier or elsewhere in the colony is unknown. The original assumption that he was living in Pennsylvania is based on LRG’s decision to link Thomas to a PA military record and add his family to the Guthrie-Bissell theoretical family. Thomas moved from Fauquier, VA to Woodford, KY about 1797

GUTHRIE GENEALOGY: Fauquier County, Virginia and its Guthrie Records & Resources

DOCUMENTS: Fauquier County, Virginia Court Records, ca.1750-1900, copied by DAR: Nada M Seymour and Aurelia M Jewell. Vols. 1-5 FHL 008218567 and Vol. 6. FHL 008218568. These books are typed transcriptions and include indexes.

The first Guthrie entry is found in Volume 5. Index p.6 IMG 796 of 989.
Guthrie, Thomas 147
The document begins p.145 IMG 951 of 989.
An indenture 20 Mar 1793 bet. John James, gentleman, and Ann, his wife, of the County of Stafford, VA, of the one part and William Wiggenton of the County of Fauquier and state aforesaid. Witnesses: Benjamin West, Thomas Guthrie, and Peter Wigginton.

The only Guthrie entry in Volume 6 is a spelling variant indexed on p.6 IMG 13 of 273: Guthridge, p.62
Guthridge’s Hill.
“In going south on Route #17 from the entrance of “Locust Grove”, a branch is crossed and then we come to a hill. It is called Guthridge’s Hill, being named after a family that once lived there. At present Mr Bud Humphrey lives on the hill in a new bungalow. // During the Civil War soldiers threw up breastworks on this hill. They told Mrs Eskridge there was going to be a battle and that she had better move out, but she didn’t do it and there was no battle. When the road was improved some years ago they tore down the breastworks. // There was an old school Baptist Church west of the road and back of Mr Bud Humphrey’s house. When the Federals were camped nearby in the field they burned the church, but they had one of the wooden benches at the camp. When they left Mrs Eskridge brought it to the house. It is on her front porch now.”

DOCUMENT: Minute and Order Books, 1759-1904, Fauquier County, Virginia. Digital Repository: Family Search.
Minute Books 1759-1768 – FHL 007894523
Book 1759-1762 – Index: IMG 17 of 680
CASE: Guthary v Wheatley – p.247
Hugh Guttray, Plaintiff, against George Wheatley, Defendant, on a Petition

Book 1763-1764 – Index: IMG 226-227 of 680
CASE: Guttray & Gunyon – p.41 – May Court 1763

CASE: Gutridge’s v Healy – p.306 – May Court 1764

Book 1764-1768 – Index: IMG 458 of 680
No Guthrie Entries Found

Minute Books 1768-1784 – FHL 007898104
Book 1768-1772 – No Guthrie Entries Found
Book 1773-1780 – IMG 291 of 752 (Index)
CASE: Gatherie v Cornell – p.143 – IMG 394 of 752

Book: 1781-1784 – Letter G Index IMG 575 of 752
CASE: Guthrridge v Chadwell p.70 (Sept Court 1782)

Minute Books 1784-1788 – FHL 008359353
Book 1784-1786 – Index IMG 14 of 528 – No Guthrie Entries Found
Book 1786-1788 – Index IMG 239 – 240 of 528 – No Guthrie Entries Found

Minute Books 1788-1795 – FHL 008359354
Book 1788-1791 – Index IMG 15 – 16 of 861 – No Guthrie Entries Found
Book 1792-1793 – Index IMG 303 – 304 of 861
CASE: Gutridge v Cooke – p.489 – October Court 1793 – IMG 581 of 861

Book 1793-1795 – Index IMG 603 – 604 of 861 – No Guthrie Entries Found

Minute Books 1795-1798 – FHL 008359355
Book 1795-1797 – Index IMG 14 – 15 of 643 – No Guthrie Entries Found
Book 1797-1798 – Index IMG 339 – 340 of 643 – No Guthrie Entries Found

Minute Book 1798-1799 – FHL 008359356
Book 1798 – 1799 – Index IMG 18 – 19 of 494 and continued IMG 37 of 494
CASE: Gutridge v Payne – p.355 – January Court 1799 – IMG 215 of 494

CASE: Gutridge v Payne – p.732 – August Court 1799 – IMG 405 of 494

Minute Book 1800-1801 – FHL 004087721
Book 1800-1801 – Index IMG 18 – 19 of 475 – No Guthrie Entries Found

Additional Minute Books Available for Review at Family Search. Note that the entries above were found in the Letter G Index for Plaintiffs. Search the full index for Guthrie Defendants.

DOCUMENTS: Deed Books, 1759-1866; Indexes to Deeds, 1759-1914. Fauquier County, Virginia. Digital Repository: Family Search.
Indexes to Deeds, Grantees A-L (FHL 007898100
Indexes to Deeds, Grantors A-L (FHL 007895974)
Locked to Online Viewing – View at Family History Center or an Affiliate Library

Deed Books, v. 1-2 1759-1767 – FHL 007894521
Volume 1 1759-1763 – Letter G Index – IMG 10 of 656
Indenture: Guttray to Gunyon – p.479 – 26 Apr 1763 – IMG 255 and 256 of 656
Hugh Guthary, taylor in Dumfries Parish of Dettingen and of the County of Prince William, VA
to
John Guynyon, merchant, of the said parish
286 acres for 5 shillings in hand paid
Indenture: Gutrray to Gunyon – p.481 – 27 Apr 1763 – IMG 256 – 257 of 656
Hugh Guttray, taylor, in Dumfries Parish of Dettingen and of the County of Prince William, VA
to
John Gunyon, merchant, in the said parish and county
286 acres for 800 pounds current money of Virginia
Letter H Index – IMG 11 of 656
Indenture: Helm to Guttray – p.339 – 7 Jul 1762 – IMG 185-186 of 656
Leonard Helm of Prince William County, VA to Hugh Guttray of same
283 acres for 5 shillings hand paid current money of VA
Indenture: Helm to Guttray – p.341 – 8 July 1762 – IMG 186-188 of 656
Leonard Helm of Prince William County, VA to Hugh Guttray of same
283 acres for 64 pounds current money of Virginia hand paid

Dettingen Parish, VA and Records (Family Search)

Volume 2 1763-1767 – Letter G Index – IMG 280 of 656 – No Guthrie Entries

Deed Books, v. 3-4 1767-1772 – FHL 007898101
Volume 3 1767-1770 – Letter G Index – IMG 7 of 532 – No Guthrie Entries
Volume 4 1770-1772 – Letter G Index – IMG 293 of 532 – No Guthrie Entries

Deed Books, v. 5-6 1772-1778 – FHL 007898102
Volume 5 1772-1774 – Letter G Index – IMG 8 of 560 – No Guthrie Entries
Volume 6 1774-1778 – Letter G Index – IMG 284 of 560 – No Guthrie Entries

Deed Books, v. 7-9 1778-1787 – FHL 007898103
Volume 7 1778-1783 – Letter G Index – IMG 9 of 781 – No Guthrie Entries
Volume 8 1783-1785 – Letter G Index – IMG 319 of 781 – No Guthrie Entries
Volume 9 1785-1787 – Letter G Index – IMG 505 of 781 – No Guthrie Entries

Deed Books, v. 10-11 1788-1794 – FHL 007894522
Volume 10 1788-1792 – Letter G Index – IMG 9 of 591 – No Guthrie Entries
Volume 11 1792-1794 – Letter G Index – IMG 312 of 591 – No Guthrie Entries
Letter J Index – IMG 312 of 591
Indenture: James to West – p.1 – 29 Jun 1792 – IMG 316-317 of 591
John James of Stafford County, VA to Benjamin West of Fauquier County, VA
Lease of 130 acres in Fauquier County for and during the life of Elizabeth his wife and during the life of his son Nicholas Strother West.
Annual rent of one shilling current money per acre and the quitrents and taxes.
He is to plant an orchard of 100 apple trees and to keep them well fenced and in good condition during the continuance of the lease.
Witnesses include Thomas Guthrie, and Peter & William Wigginton
Indenture: James to Guthrie – p.2 – 29 Jun 1792 – IMG 317-318 of 591
John James of Stafford County, VA to Thomas Guthrie of Fauquier, VA
Lease of 148 acres in Fauquier County for and during his natural life and the life of Mildred his wife and during the life of his son John Guthrie.
Annual Rent of 6 pounds ten shillings current money of VA, and the quitrents and taxes.
He is to plant an orchard of 100 apple trees and to keep them well fenced and in good condition during the continuance of the lease.
Witnesses: Peter & William Wigginton, and Benjamin West

Deed Books, v. 12-13 1794-1798 – FHL 008151658
Volume 12 1794-1796 – Letter G Index – IMG 10 of 526 – No Guthrie Entries
Volume 13 1796-1798 – Letter G Index – IMG 251 of 526 – No Guthrie Entries

Deed Books, v. 14 1798-1801 – FHL 008151659
Volume 14 1798-1801 – Letter G Index – IMG 8 of 593 – No Guthrie Entries

Many other Fauquier County Deed Books are available at Family Search for review.

DOCUMENTS: Personal Property Tax Lists, 1782-1850, Fauquier County, Virginia. Digital Repository: Family Search.

Note: There is a Guthridge family (variant spellings) that is well established in Fauquier County. They are there before and after Thomas Guthrie shows up in the local records. It is probably important to note that the documents make a distinction in the spelling of the Gutridge vs Guthrie name within the same tax year. Thomas is also assessed at a different time versus the Gutridge men. This suggests that Thomas Guthrie might not be related to the Gutridge family. They do have a documented Thomas Gutridge, but he does not make an appearance in the tax records until after Thomas Guthrie has already left for Kentucky.

The Gutridge name may or may not be a variant of Guthrie. It tends to be associated with England, so could be an Anglicized version of the name Guthrie, or a variation of Goodrich/Goodridge. The family of Allen Gutridge reportedly came to America from Devon, England.

1782 – Guthridge, Allen: Free Males over 21: 1, Negroes: 1, Horses: 3, Cattle: 3
1783 – Gutrage, Allen: Free Males over 21: 1, Negro Tithes: 0, Negroes under 16: 1, Cattle: 6, Horses 3
1784 – Guthridge, Allen: Free Males over 21: 1, Negro Tithes: 0, Negroes under 16: 0, Horses: 3, Cattle: 5
1785 – Guthridge, Allen: Free Males over 21: 1, Negro Tithes: 0, Negroes under 16: 0, Horses: 4, Cattle: 4
1786 – Guthridge, Allen: Free Males over 21: 1, Negro Tithes: 0, Negroes under 16: 0, Horses: 3, Cattle: 3
1787 – Gutteridg, Allen: (March 10) – Names of Free Males over 16 and under 21: Gutteridg Rub; Free Males above 21: 1; Free Males above 16, under 21: 1; Negroes above 16: 0, Negroes under 16: 0, Horses: 2, Cattle: 7
1788 – Gutteridg, Wm: (June 19) – Names of Free Males over 16 and under 21: (Blank); Free Tithables (over 21) 1; Negroes Above 16: 0, Negroes above 12 and under 16: 0; Horses: 1
1788 – Gutteridg, Allen (June 19) – Names of Free Males over 16 and Under 21: Gutteridg, Ruben; Free Tithables (over 21): 2; Negroes Above 16: 0, Negroes above 12 and under 16: 0; Horses: 2
1789 – Gutteridg, Allen (May 19) – Names of Free Males over 16 and under 21: (Blank); Free Tithables (over 21): 1; Negroes above 16: 1; Negros above 12 and under 16: 0; Horses: 1
1789 – Guttridg, Wm (July 3) – Names of Free Males over 16 and under 21: Gutteridg, Rub.; Free Tithables (over 21): 2; Negroes Above 16: 0; Negroes above 12 and under 16: 1; Horses: 1
1790: Gutteridg, Allen (June 22): Free Tithables: 1, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses: 1
1790: Gutteridg, William (June 22):Free Tithables: 1, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses: 1
1790: Gutteridg, Rubin (June 22): Free Tithables: 1, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses: 1
1791: Gutteridg, Allen (July 8): Free Tithables: 1, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses: 1
1791: Gutteridg, William (July 8): Free Tithables: 1, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses: 1
1791: Gutteridg, Rubin (July 8): Free Tithables: 1, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses: 1
1791: Gutteridg, Jonathan (July 8):Free Tithables: 1, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses: 1
1792: Gutteridg, Allen (April 25): Free Tithables: 1, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses: 1
1792: Gutteridg, William (April 25): Free Tithables: 1, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses: 1
1792: Gutteridg, Rubin (April 25): Free Tithables: 1, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses: 1
1792: Gutteridg, Jonathan (April 25): Free Tithables: 1, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses: 1
1792: Gutteridg, Peter (April 25): Free Tithables: 1, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses: 0
1793: Gutteridg, Allen (July 3): Names of Free Tithables: Gutteridg, Jonathan; Free Tithables: 2, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses 2
1793: Gutteridg, Rubin (July 3): Names of Free Tithables: Gutteridg, Peter; Free Tithables: 2, Negroes > 16: 0, Negroes >12 <16: 0; Horses 2
1794: Gutridge, William (March 26) Free Males > 16: 1; Blacks > 16: 0; Blacks >12<16: 0; Horses: 1
1794: Gutteridg, Allen (June 22) Free Males > 16: 1; Blacks > 16: 0; Blacks >12<16: 0; Horses: 1
1794: Gutteridg, Rubin (June 22) Free Males > 16: 1; Blacks > 16: 0; Blacks >12<16: 0; Horses: 2
1794: Gutteridg, Rubin (June 22) Free Males > 16: 1; Blacks > 16: 0; Blacks >12<16: 0; Horses: 2
1794: Gutteridg, Jonathan (June 22) Free Males > 16: 1; Blacks > 16: 0; Blacks >12<16: 0; Horses: 2
1794: Gutteridg, Peter (June 22) Free Males > 16: 1; Blacks > 16: 0; Blacks >12<16: 0; Horses: 1
1794: Guthrie, Thomas (Aug 12) Names of Tithables: Thos Guthrie Junr.; Free Tithables: 2; Negroes >16: 0; Negroes <12>16: 0; Horses: 3.
1795: Gutteridg, Allen (April 6) Free Tithes: 1; Negroes > 16: 0; Negroes >12<16: 0; Horses: 2
1795: Gutteridg, Rubin (April 6) Free Tithes: 1; Negroes > 16: 0; Negroes >12<16: 0; Horses: 1
1795: Gutteridg, Jonathan (April 6) Free Tithes: 1; Negroes > 16: 0; Negroes >12<16: 0; Horses: 1
1795: Gutteridg, Peter (April 6) Free Tithes: 1; Negroes > 16: 0; Negroes >12<16: 0; Horses: 1
1795: Guthrie, Thomas (May 6) Names of Free Tithables: Thomas Guthrie; Free Tithables: 2; Negroes >16: 0; Negroes >12<16: 0; Horses: 3
1796: Gutteridg, Allen (April 25) Free Tithes: 1; Negroes >16: 0; Negroes >12<16: 0; Horses: 1
1796: Gutteridg, Rubin (April 25) Free Tithes: 1; Negroes >16: 0; Negroes >12<16: 0; Horses: 0
1796: Gutteridg, Jonathan (April 25) Free Tithes: 1; Negroes >16: 0; Negroes >12<16: 0; Horses: 1
1796: Gutteridg, Peter (April 25) Free Tithes: 1; Negroes >16: 0; Negroes >12<16: 0; Horses: 1

Thomas Guthrie not found on 1796 tax lists.

1797: Gutrice, Peter (April 25) Free Tithes 1, Horses 1
1797: Gutrice, Allen (April 25) Free Tithes 1, Horses 1
1797: Gutrice, Reubin (April 25) Free Tithes 1, Horses 2
1797: Gutrice, Jonathan (April 25) Free Tithes 1, Horses 1

Thomas Guthrie not found on 1797 tax lists.

1798: Gutrice, Rubin (Sep 3) Free Tithes 1, Horses 1
1798: Gutrice, Jonathan (Sep 3) Free Tithes 1, Horses 1
1798: Gutrice, Allen (Sep 3) Free Tithes, 1 Horses 1
1798: Guttridge, William (May 26) Free Tithes 1, Horses 1

1799: Guthridge, Reuben – Free Tithes 1, Horses 1
1799: Guthridge, John – Free Tithes 1, Horses 1
1799: Guthridge, Peter – Free Tithes 1, Horses 1
1799: Guthridge, Allen – Tithes over 21: Thomas Guthridge; Free Tithes 2, Horses 2
1799: Gutteridge, William (May 26) – Free Tithes 1, Horses 1

1800: Guthridge, Elijah – Free Tithes 1
1800: Guthridge, Allen – Tithes over 21: Thomas Guthridge; Free Tithes 2, Horses 2
1800: Guthridge, Reuben – Free Tithes 1, Horses 2
1800: Guthridge, John – Free Tithes 1, Horses 2

Fauquier County Tax Lists are available for future dates.
Note that the 1800 census of Virginia was destroyed, so tax lists are a prime substitute.

DOCUMENTS: The 1810 US Census of Fauquier County, Virginia
4 Gutridge Households assessed on 6 Aug 1810:
Allen Gutridge: 1M and 1F 45+, 1F 26-44, 1M and 2F 16-25, 2F 10-15, 1F under 10
William Gutridge: 1M 45+, 1M and 1F 26-44, 1M and 2F 16-25, 1M 10-15, 1M and 1F under 10, 1 Slave
Reubin Gutridge: 1M 45+, 1M and 1F 26-44, 2M 10-15m 3M under 10, 1 Slave
Peter Gutridge: 1M and 1F 26-44, 2M 10-15, 2M and 2F under 10

DOCUMENTS: General Index to Deeds, 1732-1887; Deeds, 1731-1869, Prince William County, VA
FHL 007897261 – Letter G Index – IMG 56 of 601
Gutray, Hugh to William Ellzry – Deed – Book R, p.235 (starts p.234) – IMG 462 of 523 – FHL007895944
2 Sep 1761
Hugh Guttray of Dumfries, Prince William, VA to William Ellzey of Prince William, VA
100 pounds current money hand paid
Land in the Town Lot No. 43 in Dumfries where Guttray now resides

DOCUMENTS: Deed and Will Books, 1699-1900; general indexes, 1664-1977. Stafford County, VA
All Index Books are Locked Access. Must be at the FHL or affiliated library.
FHL007646097
Volume 1722-1728 – No Guthrie Entries,
Volume O – 1748-1763 – No Guthrie Entries
FHL007646098
Volume P 1754-1764 – No Guthrie Entries
FHL007676299
Volume S 1780-1787 – No Guthrie Entries
Volume AA 1809-1813 – No Guthrie Entries

DOCUMENTS: Census Records

Virginia 1790 Census
The 1790 Federal Census Scheduled for Virginia were destroyed during the War of 1812.
See info at the Library of Virginia site on Census Records.
The following is used as a census substitute:
Heads of Families at the First Census of the United States taken in the year 1790
Cumberland County
Guttery, Thomas – white 2, black 2
Guttery, Alexander – white 10, black 12
Guttery, Henry – white 10, black 4
Guttery, William – white 4, black 6
Guttery, Bernard – white 10, black 2
Halifax County
Guthrey, Thomas – white 7, black 0
Guthrey, Travis – white 10, black 2
Fauquier County – data not listed

Kentucky 1790 Census
In 1790, the present Commonwealth of Kentucky was a part of Virginia, although they were in the process of trying to form a separate state. This movement resulted in the formation of the Territory of Kentucky on 26 July 1790. Kentucky was formally admitted to the Union on 1 June 1792. The taking of the first census was ordered to begin on the 1st Monday in August 1790 and was to be completed within nine months. This date was after Kentucky’s separation from Virginia. Census returns were sent to Washington to be filed with the State Department. The original census records were destroyed when the British burned the Capitol at Washington during the War of 1812.

Kentucky 1800 Census
Also destroyed. Refer to Kentucky Tax Records as a substitute.
Go to Ancestry’s Card Catalog:
All Kentucky, U.S., Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1787-1890
(Searchable Database) – Search: Gut* and 1800
Christian County: Matthew Guthrie
Fayette County: Jesse Guthrie
Garrard County: Sovereign Guthrie, James Guthrie
Green County: James Guthry, Dempsey Guthery, Lucy Guthery
Jefferson County: James Guthrie, James Guthrie
Madison County: John Guterige, Aleniar Guthrie, Peter Guthrie, Ruben Guthrie,
Mason County: James Gutridge, James Gutridge
Mercer County: William Guthrie, William Guthrie, John Guttery, John Guttery
Nelson County: Adam Guthry
Woodford County: Alexander Guthery, Benjamin Guthery, Thomas Guthrie Jr, Thomas Guthrie Sr

The US Federal Census – 1810 – Woodford, Kentucky, USA

Thos. Guthrie Senr.- Resident Date: 6 Aug 1810
Free White Persons: 1M and 1F 45 and over, 1F 16-25, 2M 10-15.
Total Household Members: 5
Note: Household of Thomas Guthrie Sr/Mildred Howell

Thos. Guthrie Jnr. – Residence Date: 6 Aug 1810
Free White Persons: 1M and 1F 26-44, 1M 16-25, 1M and 3F under 10.
Total Household Members: 7
Note: Son of Thomas Guthrie Sr/Mildred Howell

William Guthrie – Residence Date: 6 Aug 1810
Free White Persons: 1M 26-44, 1F 16-25, 1M and 1F under 10.
Total Household Members: 4
Note: Not the sons of Thomas Guthrie Sr/Mildred Howell? Currently attached to William Guthrie (of VA and KY) who is father to a GFG5 line.

John Guthrie – Residence Date: 6 Aug 1810
Free White Persons: 1M and 1F 26-44, 2M and 1F under 10.
Total Household Members: 5
Note: Son of Thomas Guthrie Sr/Mildred Howell

The US Federal Census – 1820 – Woodford, Kentucky, USA

Thomas Guthrey – Enumeration Date: 7 Aug 1820
Free White Persons: 1M and 1F 45 and over, 1F 10-15
Engaged in Agriculture: 1
All Other Persons Except Indians not Taxed: 3
Total All Persons: 6
Note: Household of Thomas Guthrie Sr/Mildred Howell

Thomas Guthrey Junior – Enumeration Date: 7 Aug 1820
Free White Persons: 1M and 1F 26-44, 1F 16-25, 1M and 3F 10-15, 1M and 2F under 10
Engaged in Agriculture: 3
All Other Persons Except Indians not Taxed: 10
Total All Persons: 20
Note: Son of Thomas Guthrie Sr/Mildred Howell

Benjamin Guthrey – Enumeration Date: 7 Aug 1820 [GFG4]
Free White Persons: 1M and 1F 45 and over, 1F 26-44, 2M 16-25 (incl. 1M 16-18), 2M and 1F under 10
Slaves: 1M under 14, 1M and 1F 26-44, 1M 45 and over
Engaged in Agriculture: 3
All Other Persons Except Indians not Taxed: 12
Total All Persons: 24

Benjamin Guthrey Junior – Enumeration Date: 7 Aug 1820 [GFG4]
Free White Persons: 1M and 1F 16-25, 2M and 1F under 10.
Engaged in Agriculture: 1
All Other Persons Except Indians not Taxed: 5
Total All Persons: 10

James Guthrey – Enumeration Date: 7 Aug 1820
Free White Persons: 1M and 1F 26-44, 1M and 1F 16-25 (incl. 1M 16-18), 1M and 1F 10-15, 5M under 10
Slaves: 1M under 14, 1F 14-25
Engaged in Agriculture: 2
All Other Persons Except Indians not Taxed: 13
Total All Persons: 26
Note: Son of Thomas Guthrie Sr/Mildred Howell

Robert Guthrey – Enumeration Date: 7 Aug 1820
Free White Persons: 1M and 1F 16-25, 3M under 10
Slaves: 1M 14-25
Engaged in Agriculture: 2
All Other Persons Except Indians not Taxed: 6
Total All Persons: 12
Note: Son of Thomas Guthrie Sr/Mildred Howell

Caleb Guthrey – Enumeration Date: 7 Aug 1820
Free White Persons: 1M and 1F 16-25, 2F under 10
Slaves: 1M under 14
Engaged in Agriculture: 2
All Other Persons Except Indians not Taxed: 5
Total Persons: 10
Note: Son of Thomas Guthrie Sr/Mildred Howell

DOCUMENTS: Deeds, 1789-1914, Woodford County, Kentucky. Digital Repository: Family Search.

General Indexes, v.1-4 1789-1914 – FHL 007844448
General Cross Index to Deeds 1, 1789-1845
Letter G Index – IMG 107 of 1133
IMG 108 – Benjamin Guthrey to Herman Bowman & c – Book C1 – Page 579
IMG 109 – Benjamin Guthrey from Craig’s Trustees – Book C – Page 243
IMG 110 – Thomas Guthrey Junr to Bank of KY – Book H – Page 430 – 7 May 1820
IMG 110 – Thomas Guthrie Junr to Henry David – Book I – Page 4 – Aug 1821
IMG 110 – Benjamin Guthrie from Herman Bomar – Book F – Page 307-308 – 12 Jun 1814
IMG 110 – Thomas Guthrey from William Long – Book G – Page 251 – 27 Jun 1817
IMG 111 – Thomas Guthrey Junr to Thomas Guthrey Sr – Book K – Page 136 – 1 Mar 1824
IMG 111 – James Guthrey to Thomas Guthrey Sr – Book K – Page 191 – 12 Aug 1824
IMG 111 – Thomas Guthrie Senr to James Guthrie – Book K – Page 152 – 2 Apr 1821
IMG 111 – James Guthrey & wife Elizabeth to Geo. E. Gillispie – Book L – Page 130 – 7 Nov 1826
IMG 111 – Thomas Guthrie Sr from Robert T Campbell – Book I – Page 351 – 13 Jan 1823
IMG 111 – Thomas Guthrey Sr from Thomas Guthrey Junr – Book K – Page 136 – 1 Mar 1824
IMG 111 – Thomas Guthrey from James Guthrey – Book K – Page 191 – 12 Aug 1824
IMG 111 – Alexander Guthrey from James D Caldwell – Book K – Page 330 – 14 Mar 1825
IMG 111 – Thomas Guthrey Junr. from Robt. Campbell – Book L – Page 125 – 25 Jul 1826
IMG 112 – Thomas Guthrey Junr & wife Lucy to E.M. Blackburn – Book L – Page 201 – 14 Dec 1826
IMG 112 – Thomas Guthrey to John Alexander – Book M – Page 15 – 7 Feb 1829
IMG 112 – Thomas Guthrey & wife Lucy to Edw. M. Blackburn – Book M – Page 16 – 1 Jan 1829
IMG 112 – John Guthrey to William Risk – Book M – Page 101 – 10 Sep 1829
IMG 112 – James Guthrey from Nicholas Bryant – Book M – Page 372 – 24 Feb 1830
IMG 114 – Toby Guthrey to Henry Moss – Book O – Page 341 – 1 Jun 1836
IMG 114 – Tobias Guthrie to Jacob Darnell – Book Q – Page 111 – 25 Jan 1840
IMG 114 – Tobias Guthrey to Joseph Morton – Book Q – Page 178 – 4 Apr 1840
IMG 114 – Toby Guthrey from Richard Y Walker – Book O – Page 333 – 12 Jun 1834
IMG 115 – Caleb Guthrey & c to John Guinn – Book Q – Page 270 – 23 Sep 1840
IMG 115 – Tobias Guthrie & c to Joseph Morton – Book Q – Page 484 – 4 Aug 1841
IMG 115 – Benj. Guthrey to Malinda Meredith – Book R – Page 74 – 12 Sep 1842
IMG 115 – Caleb & James Guthrey from Catharine Smith – Book Q – Page 216 – 27 Jun 1840
IMG 115 – James Guthrie from Thomas L Lee – Book Q – Page 553 – 15 Feb 1842

DOCUMENTS: Personal Property Tax Lists, 1790-1793, Woodford County, Kentucky.
FHL 007856355. Item 4. Digital Repository: Family Search.
Woodford County Personal Property
1790 – Begins IMG 487 of 834 (film Illegible)
1791 – No Papers for 1791 – See IMG 506
1792 – Begins IMG 507 of 834 – Letter G Tax List IMG 511 of 834
1793 – Begins IMG 517 of 834 – Letter G Tax List IMG 524 of 834

DOCUMENTS: Records of the Wills of Woodford County, KY – FHL 007547140 – Item 2. Digital Repository: Family Search.
Letter G Index – IMG 82 of 176 – No Guthrie Entries

DOCUMENTS: Probate Records, 1781-1991, Woodford County, KY. Digital Repository: Family Search.
General Indexes, v. 1-2 1789-1991 – FHL 007553034
Letter G Index – Begins IMG 98 of 477
IMG 99 – Guthrie, Alexander, dec’d. – Wills (None), Appraisements I-288, Sales (None), Settlements M-362, Guardian Reports (None). Bundle 10.
IMG 101 – Guthrie, Joseph A., dec’d. – Willis (None), Appraisements T-309, Sales (None), Settlements U-423, Receipts U-526, Bundle 130.