N: William Guthrie & Savannah Wheeler

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Guthrie Family Group 2A · Branch N · Family Hub

William Washington Guthrie
& Savannah Mary Wheeler

Sumner & Robertson Counties, Tennessee

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William Washington Guthrie and Savannah Mary “Vann” Wheeler raised a family of nine children in the farming communities of northern Middle Tennessee. Their marriage, census households and death records anchor the family’s story in Sumner and Robertson Counties.

William’s death certificate names his parents as John Guthrie and Amanda Walker. Their identities and earlier ancestry remain unresolved. The John Guthrie belonging to Branch A’s Joseph Guthrie and Mary McNeely family has not been established as William’s father.

A direct paternal descendant through Chester Guthrie matches Guthrie Family Group 2A. The reported Y-DNA results do not carry the inherited marker pattern associated with the Branch A, E and H cluster. Branch N therefore remains a distinct research line within GFG2A.

The Family at a Glance

William Washington Guthrie

Birth
Reported 30 March 1859, Sumner County, Tennessee. Ages in later census records vary.
Parents
John Guthrie and Amanda Walker, named on his death certificate; their earlier identities remain unproved.
Occupation & Home
Farmer; associated with Sumner and Robertson Counties throughout his life.
Marriage
31 October 1888, Sumner County, to Savannah Wheeler. The license was issued the previous day.
Death & Burial
28 September 1937, White House area, Sumner County. Buried at Eidson Cemetery, now known as Eidson-White Cemetery.

Savannah Mary “Vann” Wheeler

Birth
24 January 1869, Kentucky, according to her death certificate.
Parents
William Wheeler and a mother recorded as Debathia Clark; the family reconstruction uses Tabitha Clark.
Family
Five daughters and four sons are identified. The 1910 census records eight children born and eight living, before the youngest daughter’s reported birth.
Marriage
31 October 1888, Sumner County, to William Guthrie; ceremony by H. J. White, J.P.
Death & Burial
5 December 1925, Sumner County; burial on 6 December at Eidson Cemetery.

Their Nine Children

Dates follow the reviewed records and family reconstruction. Conflicting or incomplete evidence is identified below.
Child Birth & Death Marriage & Family
Viola Guthrie Reported 1887; the 1910 age suggests about 1890.
Died 20 February 1917.
John Young, 10 June 1906; two children. Recorded as Viola Campbell at death; that husband’s identity and marriage remain unresolved.
William Taylor “Bud” Guthrie 8 October 1891 – 22 March 1966. Susie Fannie Albert, reported 20 June 1920; three children.
Vara Guthrie About 1894; living in the 1910 household. Later life unresolved. No marriage or children established.
Robert “Chester” Lee Guthrie 20 November 1895 – 9 May 1979. Carrie Sparger, 18 August 1918; one son. Sadie Mai Barlar, wife by 1930; five additional children reported. The tested paternal line descends through Chester.
Earl Devan Guthrie 28 May 1900 – 7 March 1925. Recorded as unmarried at death; no known children.
Belle Guthrie About 1901; death date unresolved. The reported 1922–1930 interval remains unverified. John Swaney Summers, 7 October 1917; one son reported. The son’s differing names require reconciliation.
Lena Laurel Guthrie 2 October 1905 – 30 November 1973. William Arthur Stewart, December 1923; six children. The original return is needed to reconcile dates of 21 and 26 December.
Martin Jones Guthrie 26 January 1909 – 7 August 1995. Oca Jim Close, 26 February 1933; four children.
Josephine Eva “Evie” Guthrie Reported 15 June 1913 – 16 January 1997. Later census indexes give a different birth year and place. Harold Craig Webster, reported 13 January 1932; no known children.
Family names, dates & records that need care

The 1910 census names Vara, while an earlier family summary used Vera. Lena’s reported birth is 1905, consistent with her age four in 1910. Her contemporary obituary supplies the exact death date of 30 November 1973.

Viola’s reported 1887 birth conflicts with her 1910 age. Until that difference is resolved, a birth before her parents’ wedding should not be treated as established. Evie’s reported Tennessee birth in 1913 also conflicts with later indexes giving Florida and about 1915.

The absence of a located marriage or death record does not establish that a child died young or never married. Vara and Belle remain part of the family while their later histories are investigated.

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Historical Highlights

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A Family Across Two Tennessee Counties

William and Savannah’s documented marriage begins a clearer chapter after the uncertainty surrounding William’s childhood. Their 1888 Sumner County marriage return places the ceremony on 31 October. The family later appears in Robertson County census households, with farming central to its livelihood.

In 1910, William farmed along the White Hill and Cross Plains Road. Sons William and Chester worked on the home farm, younger children attended school, and married daughter Viola Young appeared in her parents’ household. Savannah reported eight children born and eight living. The youngest daughter, Evie, was born afterward according to the family chronology.

Marriage and military service carried the children into new households. The family also experienced early losses: Viola died in 1917, and Earl died in March 1925. Savannah died that December. By 1930, the widowed William was living with his son Bud’s family.

William’s 1937 obituary remembers a lifetime in Sumner and Robertson Counties and names his father as John Guthrie. That family testimony preserves an important clue, but it does not identify which John. Shared county residence connects the setting of these families’ lives; it does not by itself establish their parentage.

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Family Timeline

Open each entry for the supporting record and any unresolved details.

  1. 1859 & 1869

    Reported births of William and Savannah

    Later records supply the founders’ birth details.

    Open the evidence & source

    William’s reported birth is 30 March 1859. His death certificate gives Tennessee; the contemporary obituary identifies Sumner County. The certificate names John Guthrie and Amanda Walker as his parents, both born in Tennessee.

    Savannah’s death certificate reports 24 January 1869 in Kentucky, naming William Wheeler and Debathia Clark. Tabitha is the maternal name used in the family reconstruction. These parental identifications need earlier supporting records.

    Sources: Tennessee death certificates, William Washington Guthrie, 1937, and Savannah Guthrie, 1925; Nashville Banner, 29 September 1937.

  2. 1880

    A possible Walker household connection

    Willie Guthrie appears as a nephew in a Robertson County household.

    Open the evidence & source

    In District 1, household 58, George Walker, 24, and wife Amanda, 23, lived with children, Willie Guthrie, 16, and George’s brother William Walker, 28. Willie’s relationship is recorded to the head of household; it does not specify whether the connection ran through George or Amanda.

    This is a candidate identification. Willie’s age implies a birth about 1864 rather than 1859. Amanda’s reported age does not fit her being his biological mother. The entry does not establish adoption, an aunt raising him or an error in the recorded ages.

    Source: 1880 U.S. census, District 1, Robertson County, Tennessee, George Walker household, dwelling/family 58.

  3. 31 Oct 1888

    William and Savannah marry

    The marriage return distinguishes the ceremony from the license.

    Open the evidence & source

    The Sumner County record shows a license dated 30 October 1888 and the officiant’s return dated 31 October 1888. H. J. White, J.P., performed the ceremony. The ceremony date is used here as the marriage date.

    Source: Tennessee county marriage record, William Guthrie and Savannah Wheeler, Sumner County, October 1888, license and return.

  4. 1910

    Eight children in the family record

    The household provides a central record of the growing family.

    Open the evidence & source

    The Civil District 7 return lists William, 58; Savanna, 38; Viola Young, 20; William, 18; Vara, 16; Chester, 14; Earle, 10; Belle, 9; Lena, 4; and Martin, 1. William and Savannah had been married twenty-one years; she reported eight children born and eight living.

    The founders’ ages differ from their later reported birth dates. Viola is also associated with a second 1910 household entry; comparison of the originals is needed before drawing conclusions about separation or divorce.

    Source: 1910 U.S. census, Civil District 7, Robertson County, Tennessee, White Hill and Cross Plains Road, William Guthrie household.

  5. 1920

    A smaller household

    Four children remain at home with William and Savannah.

    Open the evidence & source

    The family return records Will, 60, and his wife, 52. Their older children were establishing households of their own. The family’s 1900 census entry remains unlocated in the reviewed research; that gap should not be filled with an unproved same-name household.

    Source: 1920 U.S. census, Robertson County, Tennessee, Will Guthrie household.

  6. 1925

    Earl and Savannah die

    Two deaths changed the family within the same year.

    Open the evidence & source

    Earl Devan Guthrie died on 7 March 1925. His original certificate records him initially as unmarried and gives burial at Eidson Cemetery on 8 March. A memorial placing him in Gibson County conflicts with this contemporary evidence.

    Savannah died on 5 December 1925 in Sumner County. Her son Chester supplied the information on her death certificate; burial followed at Eidson on 6 December.

    Sources: Tennessee death certificates, Earl Devan Guthrie and Savannah Guthrie, 1925.

  7. 1930

    William in Bud’s household

    The widowed father lives with his son’s family.

    Open the evidence & source

    William is enumerated as the widowed father in William Taylor “Bud” Guthrie’s household on the Louisville and Nashville Pike. His age is recorded as seventy-two. The original household contains a child row omitted from the associated index, illustrating why indexes must be checked against their images.

    Source: 1930 U.S. census, William Taylor Guthrie household, Louisville and Nashville Pike, Tennessee.

  8. 28 Sep 1937

    William’s death and family testimony

    His death records preserve the names John Guthrie and Amanda Walker.

    Open the evidence & source

    William died in the White House area, Civil District 15, Sumner County. Son W. T. Guthrie was the death-certificate informant. The Nashville Banner obituary also names his father John, reports his Sumner County birth and describes lifelong residence in Sumner and Robertson Counties.

    The certificate’s typed death-year field appears to end in “38”; its medical, burial and filing entries, together with the contemporary notices, support 1937. The obituary’s surviving children are not a complete list of all children born.

    William W. Guthrie obituary from the Nashville Banner, 29 September 1937.
    Contemporary obituary preserved with the family research. Select the image to enlarge.

    Sources: Tennessee death certificate, William Washington Guthrie, 1937; Nashville Banner, 29 September 1937; accompanying contemporary funeral notice.

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Guthrie Family Group 2A · Branch N

A direct paternal descendant through Robert “Chester” Lee Guthrie matches the broader GFG2A Y-DNA profile. This establishes a genetic connection to the group; it does not identify William Washington Guthrie’s father with a particular John Guthrie.

The project’s reported comparison finds that the Branch N participant lacks the inherited STR pattern associated with Branches A, E and H. The proposed placement within Branch A remains unsupported.

Y-DNA results & the limits of the branch assignment

The research identifies kit B693849 with this paternal line. The legacy analysis discusses a Y111 comparison. A broad group match and a match to a particular family branch are different conclusions.

A reported single shared variance with two Branch G brothers also does not establish descent from Branch G, especially when other branch-associated variances are absent. A documented comparison of the full marker patterns, additional independently documented paternal lines and SNP results where available could refine the relationship.

These findings weigh against the asserted Branch A placement. They should not be restated as an absolute exclusion based on a new analysis of raw results, nor as proof of a particular named ancestor.

DNA Participation by Child Line

A check mark indicates documented autosomal participation. A dash means participation is not documented here.

Child Line Y-DNA Representation Autosomal Participation
Viola Through a daughter; not the Guthrie paternal line —
William Taylor “Bud” Not documented —
Vara Through a daughter; not the Guthrie paternal line —
Robert “Chester” Lee Represented · GFG2A match ✓
Earl Devan No known descendants —
Belle Through a daughter; not the Guthrie paternal line —
Lena Laurel Through a daughter; not the Guthrie paternal line —
Martin Jones Not documented —
Josephine Eva “Evie” No known descendants —

Origins & Identity Questions

John Guthrie and Amanda Walker: what is actually established?

William’s death certificate names John Guthrie and Amanda Walker, with the information supplied by their reported grandson, W. T. Guthrie. The 1937 obituary also names John. These are valuable family statements, but neither gives enough detail to identify a particular John’s parents, age, occupation or residence history.

No reviewed marriage record establishes John and Amanda as a couple, and no secure early household has been connected to William. The obituary’s informant is unknown, so the two accounts may draw on the same family knowledge rather than independent testimony.

The Branch A John: Joseph Guthrie and Mary McNeely’s son

The disputed identification concerns John Guthrie, born about 1837–1838, a son of Joseph Guthrie and Mary McNeely and grandson of James Guthrie Jr and Jane Smith. The 1850 Wilson County index places John, aged twelve, with Joseph and Mary Guthry and their children, in District 5, dwelling/family 649.

John’s 13 April 1867 Franklin County, Illinois, will names sisters Lurana or Larana Haguewood, Susan Beaty and Martha Guthrie. Their names support his identification with this Branch A family. Amanda Walker and William Washington Guthrie are not named.

The will’s silence about a wife or child does not prove that John never married or fathered a child. His age would permit fatherhood in 1859. What is missing is evidence connecting this particular man to Amanda and William; the reported Y-DNA pattern also weighs against that placement.

The will date is not, by itself, an independently established death date or probate-admission date. The full estate file and admission order may clarify the chronology. See the Branch A family discussion.

Other men named John and the earlier census search

The earlier survey found a John in Dudley and Delila Guthrie’s Davidson County household, associated with GFG1A, and Jno. F. Guthrie in Henry and Henly Guthrie’s household, associated with GFG5. Their documented paternal families do not provide the expected GFG2A connection.

Two Branch A candidates were Joseph and Mary’s son John and John Montgomery Guthrie, son of Andrew H. and Emily Guthrie. Shared geography and membership in the broader group do not overcome the missing documentary connection or the reported branch-marker distinction.

Another Wilson County family included John Guthrie, husband of Chloe Babb, and his grandson John Asa Guthrie, son of William Babb Guthrie and Mary Elizabeth Jackson. This family remains ungrouped. The elder John’s reported 1858 death does not automatically exclude a child born in March 1859; the younger man’s youth and later single status do not prove or disprove paternity.

These are research candidates, not an exhaustive list or a process of elimination that identifies the father. Earlier unsuccessful searches for Amanda and young William must be extended under variant names, other household heads and neighboring counties.

Savannah’s mother and the Wheeler–Clark marriage lead

Savannah’s certificate records her mother as Debathia Clark, while the family reconstruction uses Tabitha Clark. A marriage entry for William Wheler and a bride appearing as Tabita Clark shows a license dated 9 March 1869 and a ceremony apparently dated 13 March 1869.

The register’s identity and year, and the connection of this couple to Savannah, still need verification. The viewer’s collection heading conflicts with the years visible in the entries. A marriage after Savannah’s reported January birth is a question to investigate, not by itself a reason to accept or reject the couple.

A shared county does not establish a shared family

Sumner County was home to GFG2A Branch A descendants, this Branch N family, and Guthrie families associated with GFG5. The surname appears in the same regional records across separate paternal lineages.

Tree labels, calculated cousin relationships and DNA-match badges cannot substitute for the documentary steps connecting generations. Each proposed parent must be identified through records that distinguish that person from others of the same name.

Reading & Sources

Core family records and contemporary notices
  • Marriage: William Guthrie and Savannah Wheeler, Sumner County, Tennessee, license 30 October and ceremony return 31 October 1888.
  • Censuses: 1880 George Walker household, District 1, Robertson County, dwelling/family 58; 1910 William Guthrie household, Civil District 7, Robertson County; 1920 Will Guthrie household, Robertson County; 1930 William Taylor Guthrie household, Louisville and Nashville Pike.
  • Death certificates: William Washington Guthrie, 1937; Savannah Guthrie, 1925; Viola Campbell, 1917; Earl Devan Guthrie, 1925, in Tennessee death records.
  • Newspapers: William W. Guthrie, Nashville Banner, 29 September 1937; William Taylor Guthrie, The Tennessean, 24 March 1966; Lena Stewart, The Tennessean, 1 December 1973.
  • Other family marriages: Viola Guthrie/John Young, Robertson County, Book 20, p. 56, ceremony 10 June 1906; Belle Guthrie/Swaney Summers, 7 October 1917; Chester Guthrie/Carrie Sparger, Walker County, Georgia, 18 August 1918; Martin Guthrie/Oca Jim Close, Sumner County, 26 February 1933. Original returns and indexes are distinguished in the individual family research.
Identity research, family reconstruction & DNA evidence
  • Branch A comparison: 1850 U.S. census, District 5, Wilson County, Tennessee, Joseph Guthry household, dwelling/family 649; John Guthrie will, 13 April 1867, Franklin County, Illinois, Will Records, Book A–B, page displayed as 129.
  • Family reconstruction: profiles, linked records and source images in the Guthrie Research Tree, compared with the records and documentary obituary preserved in the earlier Branch N research.
  • DNA: Guthrie DNA Project’s reported Branch N Y111 comparison and recorded participation through Chester’s line. Broader group membership is distinguished from the unproved placement within Branch A.

Most Wanted Documents

Records most likely to advance the family’s origins
  1. A record connecting William to an identifiable John and Amanda: an early household, marriage return, guardianship, estate, church register or family Bible. Include Sumner, Robertson, Wilson and Davidson Counties and relevant Kentucky connections.
  2. The full Walker household history: establish George’s family, Amanda’s maiden identity, the children’s relationships and Willie Guthrie’s later life before merging this 1880 candidate with William.
  3. John’s complete Franklin County estate file: admission orders and estate papers may test spouse or heir claims. His 1867 will is already known and reviewed.
  4. The missing early record sequence: locate William and Savannah in 1900 and review the reported 1891 Robertson County voter entry, tracing neighbors and district changes.
  5. Wheeler–Clark records: verify the candidate 1869 marriage register and connect Savannah through households, siblings or other parent-naming evidence.
  6. Child-line gaps: Viola’s Campbell marriage; Vara’s later life; Belle’s death and her son’s differing names; Chester’s second marriage and Florida death locality; Earl’s burial; Lena’s original marriage return; and Evie’s original census entries and full obituary.
  7. Military and genetic documentation: original service and award records for specific claims, and a documented comparison of Branch N with other GFG2A paternal lines.

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Help Build the Family Story

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William and Savannah’s story survives in their children’s families, the Tennessee records and the memories passed between generations. The unanswered questions reach both backward to John Guthrie and Amanda Walker and outward through the nine child lines.

A Bible entry, letter, photograph caption or named relative in an estate file may supply the missing connection. Contributions from descendants of every child are welcome, including families who no longer carry the Guthrie surname.

Documented paternal-line DNA comparisons can help test relationships when paired with the records connecting each generation.

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