F: John Guthrie & Abigail Coe

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John Guthrie & Abigail Coe

Stratford · Durham · Judea in Woodbury, Connecticut
Descendant families in New England, New York & Ohio

John Guthrie and Abigail Coe are the documented starting point for Branch F. Their family of eleven children grew in Connecticut during the first half of the eighteenth century. Church and town records, family histories, and John’s 1756 will connect this household with the families followed on the child pages below.

An earlier John Guthrie belongs to the family’s Three Brothers tradition: an Edinburgh ironmonger associated with brothers Robert and James, later said to have operated ironworks on the Housatonic River and fathered four sons. His relationship to Abigail Coe’s husband, the brotherhood, and the Connecticut business remain unproved connections preserved for research.

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Family at a Glance

Eleven children are included in the family record: seven sons, including the infant James, and four daughters. John’s will names the ten who survived him.

John Guthrie

Birth & parents
Birth date, birthplace, and parents are unproved. About 1700 is the traditional estimate.
Marriage
Abigail Coe, 1727, Stratford; the precise date requires reconciliation.
Home & livelihood
Stratford, Durham, and Judea in Woodbury. His will describes land, livestock, household goods, and husbandry tools.
Later wife
Susanna, whose maiden name is unknown.
Death & probate
10 July 1756 in the family research; will dated 29 June and admitted to probate 18 August 1756, Woodbury.

Abigail Coe

Birth
November 1702, Stratford; the exact day differs among the cited sources.
Parents
John Coe and Mary Hawley.
Marriage & family
John Guthrie; the eleven-child family listed below.
Family connection
A published abstract of her father’s will identifies Abigail as the wife of John Guthrie of Durham.
Death
25 March 1747 is the date retained in the family research; the original death entry remains to be checked.

Susanna · John’s Later Wife

Susanna was living when John made his will in June 1756. He provided household goods and support during her widowhood. Later probate proceedings identify Daniel Owen of New Milford and Susanna his wife as John’s former widow. A published marriage transcription instead reads Daniel Orson, 15 November 1756; that surname discrepancy belongs in the source comparison. No children of John and Susanna are presently identified.

The Children

Follow each name to its family study. Years summarize the current research; disputed details are retained in the evidence notes and child pages.
ChildDatesMarriage & Family
John Guthrie 1728–1775, reported Married Patience Knapp in 1750. Named as the eldest son, of Kent, in his father’s will. His children’s identities require careful comparison.
James Guthrie · infant 1729 Reported born in July and to have died in infancy. Separate from his younger namesake.
William Guthrie 1730–1806 Married Susanna Kirby. Their family moved from Connecticut to Jericho, later Bainbridge, New York.
James Guthrie 1732–1804 Married Abigail Betts. Connecticut → Lenox, Massachusetts → Sherburne, New York.
Joseph Guthrie 1733–1808 Married Elizabeth Carpenter, widow Carey; Rachel Hand, widow Kirby; and Hannah Woodard, widow Cogshell. Descendants settled in Ohio.
Mary Guthrie 1735–1809, reported Married James Calhoun in 1754. Named Mary Calhoun in her father’s will. An alternative 1811 death date remains under review.
Ephraim Guthrie 1737–1809, reported Married Thankful Stone. Their family connects New Preston, Connecticut, with the Cayuga region of New York.
Ebenezer Guthrie 1740–1825 Married Hannah Richards, then Sarah Nichols Hawley. Associated with Southbury, Connecticut.
Abigail Guthrie 1742–1761, reported Named in her father’s will; no marriage or descendants are presently identified. The reported death day and month conflict.
Sarah Guthrie 1744–1792, reported Married Reuben Murray. Their family history continues into New York; eight children are assigned to Sarah in the current study.
Lydia Guthrie Born 1746; death unresolved Married Eleazer Ingraham in 1765. Their nine-child family joined the Society of Universal Friends in New York. The proposed 1831 death notice is not securely identified.

Family Evidence Notes

What John’s will establishes

The will names wife Susanna; sons John, William, James, Joseph, Ephraim, and Ebenezer; and daughters Mary Calhoun, Abigail, Sarah, and Lydia. William and James were appointed executors.

The eldest son John’s five-shilling bequest supplements provision already made for him. It should not be described as disinheritance. The will does not name John’s father or establish the earlier Scottish brotherhood.

Woodbury District probate register, composite volume listing 3–4, 1749–1760; will 29 June 1756, court acceptance 18 August 1756. The exact death date is retained from the family research, not read from the will.

Abigail’s Coe family connection

J. Gardner Bartlett’s Robert Coe, Puritan, pages 88–89, abstracts John Coe’s will dated 29 January 1740 and proved 5 May 1741. It identifies daughter Abigail as John Guthrie’s wife and places the couple in Durham.

The cited original is Fairfield probate, volume 1741–1748, pages 58–62. The published abstract supplies a valuable relationship statement; examination of the original remains a research priority.

Dates and family rosters still being reconciled

Abigail Coe’s November birth day and the couple’s 1727 marriage day differ among the profiles, published genealogies, and cited vital-record transcriptions. The Stratford entries referenced as LR2:57a and LR2:481a should be compared directly.

The child studies also retain specific questions: Mary’s possible additional son Joseph; the unsupported William attached to Ebenezer; Sarah Murray’s children versus those of Reuben’s later wife; and the identities of several Ingraham descendants. Lydia’s proposed 1831 death notice describes an 87-year-old woman formerly of Norwich, which does not yet securely identify the daughter born in 1746.

Two James Guthries who must remain separate

James Guthrie, born 1757, son of James Guthrie and Abigail Betts, is associated with a wife named Elizabeth or Betsey. He must not be merged with James Guthrie, about 1761–1839, husband of Mehitable Hickox, whose pension and Connecticut connections belong to a different man.

The Hickox husband’s possible placement in John Guthrie and Patience Knapp’s family remains a hypothesis. See Mistaken Identities: Connecticut & Massachusetts before attaching those military, marriage, or descendant records.

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Historical Highlights

Connecticut households, westward journeys, and generations of practical ingenuity

Soft watercolor illustration of a clockmaker’s workshop, used as an interpretive theme of skilled work and ingenuity.

The most intimate picture of John’s household comes from his will. Land, oxen, sheep, beds, chairs, a looking glass, warming pans, and cooking equipment show the material life of a large Connecticut family. Gifts to the younger daughters provided livestock and household necessities. Support for Susanna and earlier provision for the eldest son reveal how the family’s resources were divided across generations.

The Coe connection helps place the family in Durham. Abigail’s father’s published probate abstract identifies her as John Guthrie’s wife there. The family chronology then leads to Judea in Woodbury, where John made his will. Later sources often use Washington for Judea records; recognizing the changing place names helps locate the correct church, town, and probate collections.

Several children carried their households westward. William and Susanna Kirby’s family settled at Jericho, later Bainbridge. James and Abigail Betts moved through Lenox to Sherburne. Ephraim and Thankful Stone’s descendants established homes in the Cayuga region, while Joseph’s sons Truman and Stephen became associated with the Ohio settlements.

James participated in Lenox’s Revolutionary-era civic life. The Lenox Library’s account of the 3 June 1776 town resolve names him with Elias Willard and James Richards Jr. on the committee addressing independence and liberty at home. This committee role should be distinguished from claims that he alone wrote the earlier 1774 covenant.

Tools and surviving objects offer another way into the descendants’ lives. A Chipstone Foundation study illustrates a sawbuck table attributed to Truman Guthrie, dated 1790–1800 in Washington County, Ohio. The attribution is a material-culture lead, alongside the deeds and family accounts tracing Joseph’s son into that community.

Medicine and invention also became part of the family story. Through James and Abigail Betts and their son Dr. Samuel Guthrie, the branch reaches Dr. Samuel Guthrie (1782–1848), the physician, chemist, and inventor associated with Sackets Harbor, New York, and the 1831 discovery of chloroform. Father and son shared both a name and a profession and must remain distinct in the records.

Lydia and Eleazer Ingraham’s family belonged to the Society of Universal Friends. Published Yates County histories describe their children and their connection with the community led by the Public Universal Friend. Daughter Rachel remained associated with the society late in life. These accounts illuminate a religious and social network, while repeated names and conflicting dates require care in reconstructing the Ingraham generations.

The daughters’ lines carry the family into many other surnames. Mary’s Calhoun family remained part of the Connecticut story. Sarah and Reuben Murray’s descendants include their daughter Aurora, who married Isaac Jerome; that American Murray–Jerome line later leads through Leonard Jerome and Jennie Jerome to Sir Winston Churchill.

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The Family Timeline

This timeline begins with John and Abigail’s Connecticut family. Reported events and published transcriptions are identified as such; the earlier immigrant tradition is examined separately in the Three Brothers study.

  1. 1726–1727

    A household takes shape

    Stratford

    Published family histories report a 1726 purchase from Samuel Beardsley, followed by John and Abigail’s marriage in 1727. The deed and the conflicting marriage transcriptions remain priorities for original-record review.

  2. 1728–1746

    Eleven children

    Stratford, Durham & Woodbury

    The family roster begins with John in 1728 and ends with Lydia in 1746. Infant James, born in 1729, is counted separately from James born in 1732.

  3. 1740–1741

    Abigail identified as John’s wife

    Coe family probate

    The published abstract of John Coe’s will, dated 29 January 1740 and proved 5 May 1741, names Abigail as the wife of John Guthrie of Durham.

  4. 1747

    Abigail’s death

    Connecticut

    The family research gives 25 March 1747. John subsequently married Susanna, who is named as his wife in the 1756 will.

  5. 1750 & 1754

    The eldest son and daughter marry

    Judea church records

    Bailey’s published church-record transcription lists John Guthrie and Patience Knap on 10 May 1750, and James Calhoun and Mary Guthrie on 31 December 1754.

  6. 29 June 1756

    John makes his will

    Woodbury

    John names his wife and ten surviving children, appointing William and James executors. His household goods and livestock provide a detailed view of the family economy.

  7. July–August 1756

    Death and probate are separate events

    Woodbury probate

    John’s death is retained as 10 July 1756 in the family research. On 18 August, William presented the will and the court accepted it for recording. The will’s date, 29 June, is not the probate date.

  8. 1756–1757

    The widow’s continuing story

    Susanna’s remarriage & estate claim

    The marriage transcription gives Susanna Guthrie and Daniel Orson on 15 November 1756. The probate proceedings identify Daniel Owen and Susanna, John’s former widow. A July 1757 entry refers to an agreement on the following page, which remains to be obtained.

  9. 6 August 1765

    Lydia marries Eleazer Ingraham

    Judea church records

    Bailey’s printed transcription records Eleser Ingraham and Lodia Guthrie on this date. Their family later became part of the Universal Friends community in New York.

  10. 1771–1776

    James’s family and civic activity

    Lenox, Massachusetts

    The family account places James and Abigail Betts in the Lenox church in 1771. The Lenox Library identifies James as a member of the committee behind the town’s 3 June 1776 resolve.

  11. 1787–1788

    William’s family moves west

    Jericho, New York

    The 1880 Chenango County history describes William and son-in-law Reuben Kirby arriving in 1787, followed by their families in 1788. It later associates William’s home with local meetings and a tavern.

  12. 1791–1795

    Joseph’s property and migration

    Connecticut & the Ohio settlements

    Dunn reports a 1791 purchase of land, a forge, and tools from Joel Titus. The family study also identifies 1792 Ohio Company share purchases and 1793 transfers to sons Stephen and Truman, followed by Joseph’s move west. The original deeds are important next sources; the later forge report does not establish the elder immigrant’s business.

  13. 25 May 1792

    Eleazer appears on the tax list

    Jerusalem district, New York

    The preserved version of the district tax roll names Eleazer Ingraham. The Yates County historian explains the list’s copied provenance; it is evidence of local presence, not a dated arrival record.

  14. 1804–1825

    The children’s later years

    Connecticut, New York & Ohio

    The family studies continue through James’s death in 1804, William’s in 1806, Joseph’s in 1808, and Ebenezer’s in 1825. Their estate, church, and land records carry the research into the next generation.

Sources and access links are collected in Explore the Records below. Historical place names are retained where possible; present-day county names should not be projected backward onto earlier events.

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Explore the Records

Read original records, published transcriptions, and family recollections according to what each can establish. The strongest starting points are John’s probate, the Coe family probate reference, and the Connecticut town and church records.

John Guthrie’s will and the continuing estate proceedings

Connecticut, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1609–1999, Woodbury District, Probate Records volumes 3–4, 1749–1760; the reviewed viewer sequence includes images 248–249 of 488. The composite volume label and the register’s different paginations should be retained when locating the record.

  • 29 June 1756: will signed; wife Susanna and ten surviving children named.
  • 18 August 1756: William presents the will; the court accepts it for recording.
  • 1757: Daniel Owen and Susanna appear in the proceedings concerning her rights in the estate. The court discusses missing inventory and debt information; a later entry refers to an agreement recorded on the next page.

The original register takes precedence over an index that assigns the will date to probate. The Connecticut State Library probate guide explains the distinction between probate volumes and separate estate papers.

Coe probate, town records, and church marriages

Bailey’s page 97 reads 6 August 1765 for the Ingraham–Guthrie marriage. Page 96 prints Orson for Susanna’s later husband; the reviewed probate reads Owen. Neither discrepancy should be silently erased.

Published family histories and the Three Brothers tradition

The Scottish partnership, migration routes, Housatonic enterprise, four sons, and the connection between the two Johns are traditional claims awaiting documentary support. Repetition in later books does not necessarily represent independent testimony.

Migration, community history, and descendants’ work

These published histories provide useful context and record leads. Exact dates, military identities, and property relationships should be checked against the records they cite.

Lydia’s family and the Society of Universal Friends

Lydia the mother and Lydia the daughter are separate people. The 1831 death notice, two women named Lament, and the John/Elisha/Eleazer generations require continued comparison. The cemetery compilation does not supply a death date for Lydia, wife of Eleazer.

Mistaken Identity Alert · Betts and Hickox Families

The Connecticut & Massachusetts mistaken-identity study separates the son of James Guthrie and Abigail Betts from the husband of Mehitable Hickox. The Hickox husband’s pension must not be used to prove service or descendants for James born in 1757. A possible connection to John and Patience Knapp remains a research question.

DNA Participation & Findings

Seven unique Y-DNA kits represent three sons’ lines: James, Joseph, and Ephraim. The reviewed 15 October 2026 roster contains four Y111 and three Y67 results. All belong to GFG2A; no Branch F Big-Y result is recorded in that review.

Child-by-child coverage. “Needed” means no representative is identified in the reviewed project records. N/A means the child cannot provide this Guthrie paternal Y-line, or has no known descendants. Daughters’ descendants can participate through autosomal DNA.
Child LineY-DNABig-YAutosomal DNA
John · Patience KnappNeededNot recordedNeeded
James · infant, 1729N/AN/AN/A
William · Susanna KirbyNeededNot recordedRepresented
James · Abigail Betts2 kits · Y111None recordedRepresented
Joseph · three marriages3 kits · Y111 / Y67None recordedRepresented
Mary · James CalhounN/AN/ARepresented
Ephraim · Thankful Stone2 kits · Y67None recordedNeeded
Ebenezer · Hannah RichardsNeededNot recordedRepresented
Abigail · no known descendantsN/A at presentN/A at presentN/A at present
Sarah · Reuben MurrayN/AN/ANeeded
Lydia · Eleazer IngrahamN/AN/ANeeded

Represented Paternal Lines

Each path begins with John Guthrie and Abigail Coe. Only the early historical generations and kit numbers are shown.
KitHistorical LineSTR Panel
1017666James & Abigail Betts → Benjamin & Milly MilkeY111
996753James & Abigail Betts → Nathan & Abi RichardsonY111
178628Joseph & Elizabeth Carpenter → Truman & Elizabeth StoneY111
678385Joseph & Elizabeth Carpenter → Truman & Elizabeth StoneY67
839545Joseph & Rachel Hand → Joseph George & Keziah RootY111
N87623Ephraim & Thankful Stone → Ebenezer & Abigail HerickY67
912395Ephraim & Thankful Stone → Ebenezer & Abigail HerickY67

The matches support a shared paternal lineage within GFG2A. Big-Y testing in several independent Branch F lines could help refine their placement within the group and compare them with Branches B and I. Neither a close STR match nor the traditional branch labels alone establish that the named immigrant founders were brothers.

Autosomal participation by family line

Recorded participation includes Family Finder and the identified AncestryDNA participant. These entries describe project coverage; they are not a claim that every match has independently proved the entire ancestral path.

  • William & Susanna Kirby: B346161.
  • James & Abigail Betts: 88319 through Benjamin; B538614 and B667790 through Nathan and Mabelle Patterson; AncestryDNA participation associated with kit 1017666 through Benjamin.
  • Joseph & Elizabeth Carpenter: 135266, 678385, B180556, B301149 through Truman.
  • Joseph & Rachel Hand: 839545 through Joseph George; 980968 through Stephen.
  • Mary & James Calhoun: 317589.
  • Ebenezer & Hannah Richards: 58841 and 950276.

Nathan belongs beneath James and Abigail Betts in these pedigrees; he is not an additional son of John and Abigail Coe. Living participants are identified publicly by kit number only.

Most Wanted Documents
  • John’s complete estate: the page following the July 1757 agreement reference, estate inventory, debts, distribution, and related loose papers.
  • The Stratford and Durham originals: Abigail Coe’s birth, the 1727 marriage entries, children’s births and baptisms, and John’s 1726 Beardsley conveyance.
  • John Coe’s original will: Fairfield probate, 1741–1748, pages 58–62.
  • Evidence for the immigrant tradition: Scottish partnership or family records, identifiable migration records, Connecticut ironworks deeds or accounts, and documents naming the reputed four sons.
  • Joseph’s property records: the 1791 Titus forge conveyance and the Ohio Company purchases and transfers identifying Stephen and Truman.
  • Records resolving descendant identities: John and Patience Knapp’s church and military records; James’s Berkshire deeds; William’s 1807 and Ebenezer’s 1825 probate; and Lydia Ingraham’s death and estate evidence.

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Help Build the Family Story

Interpretive watercolor of colonial ironworks beside autumn water, recalling the family’s ironworking tradition.

Branch F brings together a Connecticut household, the journeys of its children, and an enduring story of Scottish ironmongers. John and Abigail’s descendants carried their families into new communities through farming, skilled work, medicine, religious life, and public service. Each deed, church entry, family letter, and estate paper can add something to that history.

Do you have a family Bible, an original record, an identified heirloom, or a documented line descending from this family? Contributions are especially welcome for the earlier immigrant questions, the unresolved child-line identities, and the families not yet represented in DNA testing. Please include the source and its context so the information can be compared with the existing research.

Researched and curated by Ann Guthrie
Guthrie Genealogy

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