2A-D: Elizabeth Guthrie

Watercolor keepsakes recalling the children of Archibald Guthery and Rebecca Phillips.

Guthrie Family Group 2A · Branch D · Child Page

Elizabeth Guthrie & Jacob Fordyce

Southwestern Pennsylvania · The Fordyce, Crouse, Wilson & Leonard Families

Elizabeth Guthrie was the eldest child of Archibald Guthery and Rebecca Phillips. Born in 1774, she was still a small child when her father died during the Revolutionary War. Her mother later married Solomon Hobbs.

Elizabeth married Jacob Fordyce in 1798. Their eight children grew up in southwestern Pennsylvania; the next generations carried the family into the Crouse, Wilson, Leonard, and Fordyce households of Greene County and farther west.

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Family at a Glance

Elizabeth Guthrie

Parents
Archibald Guthery and Rebecca Phillips.
Born
Reported 20 December 1774, Pennsylvania; family accounts place her birth in the area now called Fayette County.
Died
Reported 20 December 1857, Center Township, Greene County, Pennsylvania.
Burial
Reported Fordyce Cemetery, Greene County, Pennsylvania.

Jacob Fordyce

Parents
Samuel Fordyce and Elizabeth, whose name appears as Elizabeth Clough Huggins in family compilations.
Born
Reported 16 October 1772, Morris County, New Jersey.
Occupation
Farmer.
Died
Reported 21 November 1859, Center Township, Greene County, Pennsylvania.
Burial
Reported Fordyce Cemetery, Greene County, Pennsylvania.

Elizabeth & Jacob
Reported marriage: 29 November 1798, Pennsylvania · Eight children

Dates below follow the reviewed Research Tree and family accounts unless a more specific source is identified. Original birth and marriage records have not established every exact date.

Elizabeth and Jacob’s eight children, with their marriages and principal research notes.
Child & Dates Marriage Family Notes
Solomon Fordyce
16 Sep 1799–reported 1 May 1865
Catherine Crouse; Sarah Leonard Ten children in the working roster. The chronology of his two marriages requires further evidence.
Rebecca Fordyce
12 Jan 1802–24 Dec 1853
Samuel Crouse, reported 1 Jan 1823 The family account reports eleven children; the identities and total remain under review.
Mary Fordyce
22 Nov 1803–13 Jan 1882
David Wilson, about 1825 Seven children. David’s reported birth year needs comparison with the marriage chronology.
Jane Fordyce
Working date 16 Oct 1805–8 Jan 1876
Rev. John Leonard, reported 14 Nov 1830 Eight children. An alternative birth date of 15 Oct 1806 remains in the research notes.
Archibald Guthrie Fordyce
4 Dec 1807–28 Apr 1893
Nancy Leonard, 11 May 1827; Elizabeth Simmons, 30 Oct 1856 Eleven children in the working roster, nine by Nancy and two by Elizabeth.
Jacob F. Fordyce
4 Dec 1809–21 Jul 1880
Martha Reinhart, reported 3 Oct 1830 Eight children. The date assigned to his estate record needs verification.
John Wesley Fordyce
13 Feb 1812–12 Mar 1894
Sarah Bayn/Bane/Bean, 1833; Elizabeth Jones Knapp, 21 Jan 1883 Seven children by Sarah. The family later lived in Coe Township, Isabella County, Michigan.
Elizabeth Fordyce
3 Mar 1816–26 Jul 1827
— Died in childhood, aged eleven, according to the family record.

The Children’s Families

The expandable rosters preserve the named descendants in the family research. These are working family lists; unresolved identities and conflicting dates are noted rather than silently reconciled.

Solomon Fordyce — Catherine Crouse & Sarah Leonard

Solomon’s first marriage is reported as 31 October 1822 to Catherine Crouse; his second as 27 September 1831 to Sarah Leonard. Catherine’s reported 1859 death conflicts with that sequence. Her death date and the marriage evidence need to be checked together.

Children assigned to Catherine:

  • John A. Fordyce — 1823–1904; married Sarah Simmons.
  • Elizabeth Fordyce — 1825–1859; married David K. Fry.
  • Solomon Fordyce — 1827–1837; died in childhood.

Children assigned to Sarah:

  • Milton Fordyce — 1832–1840; died in childhood.
  • Martha Fordyce — 1834–1840; died in childhood.
  • David Fordyce — 1837–1840; died in childhood.
  • George Fordyce — born about 1841; later life untraced in the reviewed material.
  • Rachel Fordyce — 1843–1933; no marriage recorded in the family account.
  • Joseph Fordyce — 1846–1896; married Sarah Ann Carter.
  • Jacob Fordyce — 1849–1862; reported death in Missouri during the Civil War.

Solomon reportedly died on 1 May 1865, the date given by Find a Grave. The exact day remains unverified. The original estate entry grants letters of administration to John Fordyce on 13 May 1865; it is not a will and does not state Solomon’s death day.

Greene County estate book, vol. 4, p. 129, case 2208. The ten-child roster and maternal assignments remain subject to resolution of the marriage chronology.

Rebecca Fordyce & Samuel Crouse

Rebecca married Samuel Crouse (1798–1885), reportedly on 1 January 1823. Their family remained associated with Center Township and Rogersville. Rebecca’s memorial index gives 24 December 1853 as her death date and Crouse Cemetery as her burial place.

  • Lucinda Crouse — 1823–1886; married Byron Masters.
  • Benson F. Crouse — 1825–1890; married Melissa Ambrose Allen.
  • Layton Crouse — 1827–1890; married Catherine Thomas.
  • June Crouse — born about 1829 in the tree; her identity and possible duplication with Jane remain unresolved.
  • Jane Crouse — born about 1830; the family account associates her with Abraham J. Syphers. Her dates need comparison with the June entry.
  • Spencer Crouse — born about 1831; death reported as 1895 in the tree and 1900 in the family account.
  • Franklin Crouse — born about 1834; later life unconfirmed. Benjamin Franklin appears in the memorial’s linked-child list.
  • Elizabeth A. Crouse — 1836–1916; married Dr. Thomas T. Williams.
  • Enos G. Crouse — 1839–1892; married Mary Elizabeth Bennett.
  • Caroline Crouse — 1841–1871; married Silas Walter Martin.

The family account reports eleven children, while ten named entries appear in the supplied tree view. The June/Jane question makes it unsafe to add an unnamed child merely to reach eleven. The complete roster remains unresolved.

Mary Fordyce & David Wilson

Mary and David’s seven-child family is associated with Fayette and Greene Counties. Their marriage is estimated at about 1825. David’s reported 1810 birth would make him about fifteen at that time; the records need comparison before either date is changed.

  • Helen “Ellen” Wilson — 1826–1912; married Isaac Childs.
  • James Wilson — 1828–1864; married Sabina Davis; reported Civil War death.
  • Peter Thomas Wilson — 1831–1870; married Nancy Hughes.
  • Simeon Laughrey Wilson — 1832–1913; married Elizabeth McKnight.
  • Elizabeth Wilson — born about 1833; later life untraced after the reported census appearances.
  • David Wilson — 1834–1905; married Maria McKnight.
  • Justin Wilson — 1836–1863; reported Civil War death; no marriage identified.

David’s death is reported in 1862. Mary subsequently appears in the family account in Center Township, Greene County, where her death is reported on 13 January 1882.

Jane Fordyce & Rev. John Leonard

Jane Fordyce married Methodist minister John Leonard, reportedly on 14 November 1830. His dates are given as 27 November 1810–31 March 1858; Jane’s death as 8 January 1876. Their family is associated with Greene County.

  • Tom Leonard — born about 1832; later life untraced.
  • Lot Leonard — 1835–1904; married Julietta Lane.
  • Jacob Fordyce Leonard — 1838–1912; married Elizabeth Ann Craig.
  • Sarah Elizabeth Leonard — 1839–1919; married Samuel Carlisle Shakespeare.
  • Nancy M. Leonard — 1840–1930; married Isaac Bennett.
  • Asa Shinn Leonard — 1842–1921; married Adelia M. Reynolds, then Mary F. Taylor.
  • Jane Leonard — 1848–1858; died in childhood.
  • George W. Leonard — 1851–1877; no marriage recorded in the family account.

No project participant is presently identified for this line in the reviewed information. That does not mean Jane and John had no descendants.

Archibald Guthrie Fordyce — Nancy Leonard & Elizabeth Simmons

Archibald’s working dates are 4 December 1807–28 April 1893. His first marriage, to Nancy Leonard, is reported as 11 May 1827; his second, to Elizabeth Simmons, as 30 October 1856.

Children assigned to Nancy:

  • Jacob Leonard Fordyce — 1828–1913; married Sarah Jacobs, then Elizabeth Ann Craig.
  • Elizabeth Jane Fordyce — 1830–1907; married Lafayette A. Eagon.
  • Maria Fordyce — 1832–1922; married Jesse Chesny Wood.
  • Sarah Fordyce — 1834–1912; married Edward Wood.
  • William C. Fordyce — 1835–1888; married Malinda Simmons.
  • Oscar Fordyce — 1840–1861; no marriage recorded.
  • Silas G. Fordyce — 1842–1907; married Mary Jane Orndoff.
  • Barnett “Barney” Fordyce — 1848–1906; wife recorded as Martha Mildred in the family account; her full identity needs verification.
  • Clarinda Fordyce — 1851–1907; married Annanias R. Whyte, with White/Whyte variants.

Children assigned to Elizabeth:

  • Samuel W. Fordyce — about 1857–1862; died in childhood.
  • Albert Giles Fordyce — 1859–1902; married Malissa Ann Burge.

The obituary published in the Waynesburg Republican on 4 May 1893 names eight surviving children. The eleven-child working roster also includes William, Oscar, and Samuel, who had already died. A count of survivors is not a count of all births.

Jacob F. Fordyce & Martha Reinhart

Jacob and Martha’s marriage is reported as 3 October 1830. Their eight-child family is retained below; Reinhart and Rinehart occur as surname variants in the research.

  • Jesse Fordyce — 1831–1885; married Rachel Orndoff.
  • Hannah Mary Fordyce — 1832–1877; married John Remley.
  • Archibald Fordyce — 1837–1899; married Martha J. Leonard.
  • Elizabeth Fordyce — 1839–1918; married George H. Watson.
  • Simon Reinhart Fordyce — 1841–1907; married Elizabeth Orndoff.
  • Rebecca Fordyce — 1844–1871; married John L. Leonard.
  • Nancy Jane Fordyce — 1845–1922; married John T. Cole.
  • Martha Fordyce — 1847–1918; married Zadock Wells.

Martha’s death is reported in 1877 and Jacob’s on 21 July 1880. A tree event labeled probate is dated 28 April 1880, before that death. The original entry must be checked to determine whether it is a will date or another event.

John Wesley Fordyce — Sarah Bayn/Bane/Bean & Elizabeth Jones Knapp

John married Sarah in 1833, according to the family account. Her surname appears as Bayn, Bane, and Bean. Their seven children are listed below. The family’s later history includes Coe Township, Isabella County, Michigan.

  • Thomas J. Fordyce — 1834–1913; married Elizabeth Jane Turner, then Francis Emeline Wilcox.
  • Isaac Newton Fordyce — 1836–1910; married Harriet R. Norris, then Hattie V. Wellman.
  • Solomon H. Fordyce — 1838–1928; married Leah Simmons, then Hattie Smith.
  • Elizabeth Mary Fordyce — about 1842–1925; married Morris Pethtel.
  • John Milton Fordyce — about 1842–1897; married Cassandra Steward.
  • Martha Jane Fordyce — 1845–1920; married John McClellan.
  • Winfield Scott Fordyce — 1852–1930; married Clarinda Parkinson, then Mary Kirby.

The two children assigned an 1842 birth year are not assumed to be twins. Following Sarah’s reported 1879 death, John married Elizabeth Jones Knapp on the reported date of 21 January 1883. His death is recorded in the family research as 12 March 1894 at Coe.

Elizabeth Fordyce — A Short Life

The youngest child bears her mother’s name. The family record gives her birth as 3 March 1816 and death as 26 July 1827, aged eleven. No additional biography is supported by the material reviewed.

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Historical Highlights

Interpretive watercolor of medical aid being dispatched at Pittsburgh during the Revolution.
The dispatch scene recalls Elizabeth’s father’s final days. It is an artistic interpretation, not a portrait or eyewitness scene.

A Revolutionary Childhood, a Pennsylvania Family

Elizabeth’s life began before American independence. Using her reported December 1774 birth date, she was four when her father died at Fort Pitt in August 1779. The military records and Brodhead’s urgent letter belong to her earliest family history, even though they tell us little about her own childhood.

Her mother Rebecca later married Solomon Hobbs. The family connection endured: Elizabeth’s brother Archibald provided for their mother and stepfather in his 1845 will. Rebecca’s children established households of their own while remaining part of the same extended southwestern Pennsylvania family.

Elizabeth and Jacob’s marriage in 1798 began a family of four sons and four daughters. Their children’s marriages linked the Fordyces with the Crouse, Wilson, Leonard, Reinhart, and other local families. Some descendants remained near Greene County’s farms and burial grounds; others established homes in Michigan and farther west.

“He also leaves a family of eight children living.”

Obituary of their son Archibald G. Fordyce, Waynesburg Republican, 4 May 1893; wording preserved in the family transcription.

That brief obituary statement captures one moment in a much larger family. Archibald’s working roster contains eleven children, including three who had died before him. Reading the whole family across generations helps distinguish births, surviving children, and later descendants.

Family Timeline

Exact early dates remain reported family information unless a specific contemporary record is identified.

  1. 20 Dec 1774

    Elizabeth’s Reported Birth

    The eldest child of Archibald Guthery and Rebecca Phillips is born in Pennsylvania.

    Research Tree and family accounts; the exact locality needs original evidence.

  2. Aug 1779

    Her Father’s Death

    Archibald dies during Revolutionary service at Fort Pitt; the working death date is 5 August.

    Brodhead’s 4 August letter and the family’s military research; see the Family Hub.

  3. 29 Nov 1798

    Marriage to Jacob Fordyce

    Elizabeth and Jacob establish their own household in southwestern Pennsylvania.

    Reported marriage date; an original register or family record remains desirable.

  4. 1799–1816

    Eight Children

    Four sons and four daughters are named in the family reconstruction.

    The Fordyce family accounts and reviewed Research Tree.

  5. 26 Jul 1827

    Death of the Youngest Daughter

    Elizabeth Fordyce, named for her mother, reportedly dies aged eleven.

    Reported family dates: 3 March 1816–26 July 1827.

  6. 16 Aug 1845

    Provision for Rebecca and Solomon

    Elizabeth’s brother Archibald makes his will, providing for their mother Rebecca and her husband Solomon Hobbs.

    Original will, Greene County, case 1175; proved 3 September 1845.

  7. 1850

    Center Township

    The research profile places Elizabeth in Center Township, Greene County.

    Census attachment identified; the exact household details require the original schedule.

  8. 20 Dec 1857

    Elizabeth’s Reported Death

    The recorded family dates place her death on her eighty-third birthday.

    Reported date, Center Township, Greene County.

  9. 21 Nov 1859

    Jacob’s Reported Death

    Jacob survives Elizabeth by nearly two years. Both are reported buried in Fordyce Cemetery.

    Family and memorial information; original burial evidence remains useful.

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Explore the Records

The family reconstruction combines published accounts, the Research Tree, memorial indexes, census references, and the estate documents reviewed for this branch. Their evidentiary value differs: a profile supplies a research claim, while an original estate entry directly records a legal action.

Early Dates, Geography & the 1850 Household

The selected working dates are 20 December 1774–20 December 1857 for Elizabeth, 16 October 1772–21 November 1859 for Jacob, and 29 November 1798 for their marriage.

Elizabeth’s birthplace is described as Pennsylvania, with the reported locality qualified as the area now called Fayette County. A later county name should not imply that the county existed at her birth or that the precise location has been proved.

The 1850 census attachment is a useful lead to their Center Township household. The full original schedule is needed to verify the residents and their ages. Jacob’s reported death is in 1859.

A readable original census page would establish the precise household citation. Cemetery photographs are also needed to distinguish dates read directly from markers from dates supplied by later memorial entries.

Solomon’s Marriages, Death & Estate

The supplied family information gives Catherine Crouse’s marriage to Solomon as 31 October 1822, Sarah Leonard’s marriage as 27 September 1831, and Catherine’s death as 26 April 1859. Those statements do not yet form a resolved chronology. No replacement year for Catherine’s death is assumed.

The 1850 census index places Sarah, aged 41, with Solomon and several younger children. It supports further investigation of the household, but does not by itself settle his first marriage’s ending or every child’s mother.

1 May 1865 is retained as Solomon’s reported death date, attributed to Find a Grave. The original entry on 13 May 1865 grants administration to John Fordyce, with Jacob and Archibald Fordyce as sureties. It proves that Solomon had died before administration was granted, without independently establishing the exact death day.

Greene County, Pennsylvania, estate book vol. 4, p. 129, case 2208; original image reviewed.

Child Counts, Similar Names & Unresolved Dates

Rebecca’s Crouse family: reconcile the reported eleven children with the ten named tree entries, especially June and Jane. Spencer’s 1895/1900 death alternatives also remain open. A memorial’s linked-child list is not necessarily a complete birth register.

Mary’s Wilson family: David’s reported birth about 1810 and marriage about 1825 need original evidence. A young estimated age alone does not justify changing his identity.

Jane’s Leonard family: retain Fordyce as her birth surname. The working birth date is 16 October 1805, with 15 October 1806 as an unresolved alternative. Her descendants and DNA participation are separate questions.

Archibald’s Fordyce family: the obituary’s eight living children can coexist with eleven children born. William, Oscar, and Samuel are the three deceased children in the working roster.

Jacob F. Fordyce: inspect the 28 April 1880 estate event before calling it probate; it precedes his reported 21 July death.

John Wesley Fordyce: retain Bayn/Bane/Bean as alternatives for Sarah’s surname. The two reported 1842 births do not establish twins. An uncertain West Virginia census attachment is not used to establish a migration.

Was Jacob Related to the Author of Fordyce’s Sermons?

Fordyce’s Sermons, mentioned in Jane Austen’s Pride and Prejudice, refers to the work of Rev. James Fordyce (1720–1796), author of Sermons to Young Women.

The Dictionary of National Biography identifies James as a son of George Fordyce of Broadford, merchant and provost of Aberdeen. It also reports that James’s marriage to Henrietta Cummyng produced no children.

Jacob’s father was Samuel Fordyce. No documented connection between Samuel’s line and the preacher’s Aberdeen family has been established in the material reviewed. A relationship through another branch remains possible, but James should not be identified as Jacob’s uncle, cousin, or ancestor without a connecting pedigree supported by records.

DNA Participation

Elizabeth’s descendants do not inherit her father’s Y chromosome through her. Y-DNA and Big-Y results from a Fordyce male line would investigate the Fordyce paternal line. The Guthery paternal evidence belongs to male-line descendants discussed on the Family Hub.

Participation through Elizabeth and Jacob’s children, based on the reviewed project information.
Child’s Line Guthery Y-DNA Guthery Big-Y Autosomal
Solomon Fordyce Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not recorded
Rebecca Fordyce Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not transmitted through Elizabeth Family Finder: B52893, through Enos G. Crouse
Mary Fordyce Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not recorded
Jane Fordyce Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not recorded
Archibald Guthrie Fordyce Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not recorded
Jacob F. Fordyce Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not recorded
John Wesley Fordyce Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not recorded
Elizabeth Fordyce Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not transmitted through Elizabeth Not applicable; died in childhood

The historical line represented by B52893: Archibald Guthery & Rebecca Phillips → Elizabeth Guthrie & Jacob Fordyce → Rebecca Fordyce & Samuel Crouse → Enos G. Crouse & Mary Elizabeth Bennett → later descendants.

The Rebecca–Samuel generation is included here to correct its omission from the abbreviated project note. This is a recorded descendant connection, not a claim that a particular DNA segment has been proved to come from Elizabeth.

“Not recorded” describes the reviewed participation information; it does not establish that no descendant has tested. Participant identities remain private.

Sources & Further Reading
  • Guthrie Research Tree: Elizabeth Guthrie and Jacob Fordyce, together with the eight children’s family profiles supplied for review. These preserve the working dates, relationships, and source leads.
  • Solomon Fordyce’s estate: Greene County, Pennsylvania, vol. 4, p. 129, case 2208; letters of administration granted 13 May 1865. Original image reviewed.
  • Archibald Guthrie’s 1845 will: Greene County, case 1175; executed 16 August, proved 3 September. The support clause concerns his mother Rebecca and stepfather Solomon Hobbs.
  • Census and memorial indexes: supplied records for Solomon Fordyce and Rebecca Fordyce Crouse; Elizabeth’s 1850 census attachment is a locator requiring full schedule review. Memorial links do not alone prove a complete family roster.
  • Waynesburg Republican, 4 May 1893: Archibald G. Fordyce obituary preserved in the family transcription. The newspaper image was not newly inspected for this revision.
  • Laurence R. Guthrie, American Guthrie and Allied Families (1933), pp. 376–377, for the Archibald Guthery–Rebecca Phillips family; authored family research.
  • Howard L. Leckey, The Tenmile Country and Its Pioneer Families, p. 604, cited in the supplied tree for Fordyce births. This is a page locator from the research, not a claim of a newly inspected original birth record.
  • Jim Fordyce, Descendants of Samuel Fordyce (1734–1824) (1999), family compilation. Further-reading lead; the full PDF could not be retrieved for this revision.
  • Alexander Gordon, “Fordyce, James,” Dictionary of National Biography, for the preacher’s family. It does not connect him to Jacob’s line.
  • Guthrie DNA Project member notes, 15 October 2026: kit B52893, correlated with the Fordyce–Crouse family reconstruction. No living participant’s name is published.
Most Wanted Documents
  • Elizabeth and Jacob: a family Bible, original marriage entry, contemporary death notice, cemetery photographs, and complete estate files.
  • The 1850 household: a readable original census page establishing both spouses and their household, with verified page and dwelling references.
  • Solomon’s two marriages: marriage records and evidence for Catherine Crouse’s death or the ending of the first marriage.
  • Rebecca and Samuel Crouse: a complete birth list, Bible or estate record resolving June/Jane and the reported eleven-child total.
  • The next generation: Mary and David Wilson’s marriage, Jane Fordyce Leonard’s birth evidence, and the original Jacob F. Fordyce estate entry.
  • Fordyce origins: records identifying Samuel Fordyce’s parents and birthplace, and any documented link to James Fordyce’s Aberdeen family.

Help Build the Family Story

Interpretive watercolor of Rebecca’s young family: a mother, two daughters, and an infant beside the hearth.
A remembrance of Elizabeth’s childhood household with Rebecca, Jane, and baby Archibald. The figures are artistic interpretations.

Elizabeth’s story joins two generations: the young family left after her father’s Revolutionary service, and the eight children she raised with Jacob Fordyce. Their descendants carried those connections into new households, surnames, and communities.

Family Bibles, cemetery photographs, letters, deeds, and estate papers can help settle the remaining dates and recover details that are missing from the published accounts. Descendants of the Fordyce, Crouse, Wilson, and Leonard families are welcome to contribute documented lines and relevant DNA participation.

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