The Guthrie surname origins remains painted by colorful fables and theories. Did the goodwife gut three fish for the king? Was the name sourced from a Gaelic word ‘gaothairach’ meaning windy place? Did the family take its name from the lands of Gutherin? These mysteries will remain as they predate any surviving evidence.

Many people of Guthrie ancestry associate Castle Guthrie and the hamlet of Guthrie in Angus, Scotland with everyone of the surname. Rather than one biological family line, there was a diverse clustering of Guthrie families living in Scotland by the time the castle was built, some related, and others apparently with different origins. One of the earliest references is found in 1299 when a Squire Guthrie successfully fulfilled a mission to bring Sir William Wallace back from France where he had been gathering support for Scotland. Wallace became one of the primary leaders during the First War of Scottish Independence. The fate of Squire Guthrie is unknown.

The Guthries were known to be royal falconers during their long association with the crown. The lineage of the Guthries of Guthrie, also known as the Guthries of that Ilk, begins in the 15th century with Sir David Guthrie, a son of Sir Alexander Guthrie of Kincaldrum and Janet Dundas. During the reigns of King James II (1437-1460) and King James III (1460-1488) of Scotland, he served as armor bearer and captain of the guard. In 1461, he was appointed Lord High Treasurer of Scotland and was also Lord Chief Justice. The original tower of Guthrie Castle was built in 1468. He is also responsible for the purchase of the Church of St Mary’s from the Abbey of Arbroath in 1497, an act sanctioned by Pope Sextus IV, for the purposes of its conversion to a collegiate church.

The Guthrie Aisle is the surviving section of that medieval collegiate church, which was later replaced by the Guthrie Parish Church. It formed the southern transept of the medieval building, originally founded around 1150. Although this church was initially linked to Brechin Cathedral, it and the ‘lands of Gutherin’ were granted by King William the Lion to Arbroath Abbey in 1178.

Tracing the ancestral lineage of the Guthries of that Ilk can be challenging because so many mistakenly automatically list the title as passing from one generation to the next. Understand that the Guthrie lands and title associated with it may have been refused by the legal heir, skipped a generation, or were outright sold. The responsibility and costs associated with it were frequently passed on to a Guthrie who was not necessarily in the direct line.

Foeffment: A feudal system by which a person was given land in exchange for a pledge of services. This mechanism was later used to avoid restrictions on the passage of title in land by a system in which a landowner would give land to one person for the use of another. The common law of estates in land grew from this concept.

Primogeniture: A feudal run by which the right of succession belongs to the firstborn legitimate male child. The entirety of the parent’s estate or main estate goes to this single heir instead of a shared inheritance between all or some children, any illegitimate children, or collateral relatives. In Scotland, this law applied to heritable property on intestacy (estates where there was no will) until 1964.

Women, Hereditary Peerages, and Gender Inequality in the Line of Succession. {House of Lords Library}

THE LAIRDS of GUTHRIE

1st BARON of GUTHRIE: DAVID GUTHRIE
Infeft 1465 – Death 1500
Son of Alexander Guthrie 1st of Kincaldrum and Marjorie (MNU)
Born about 1417 – 1449 in Scotland
(See Age Calculations below)
Died after 1474 in Scotland (alternate 1479)
Spouse 1: FNU Maule (annulment; no issue)
Spouse 2: Janet Dundas
Children: Alexander (2nd of Guthrie, 3rd of Kincaldrum), Elizabeth
Unknown Partner > Natural Child: Malcolm Guthrie
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Historical Note: David Guthrie was educated at Cologne gaining a bachelor’s degree 20 May 1445, which aides in the estimation of his birth year and approximate age. It is unknown precisely when David Guthrie was knighted, but it was said to be done by an English king, either King Henry VI or King Edward IV of England. Sir David Guthrie held many important roles during his lifetime:
* Captain of the Bodyguard of James II, King of Scots.
* Sheriff of Forfarshire (Angus) in 1457.
* Lord High Treasurer of Scotland, which he held from 1461 to 1467 or 1470. (Reign of James III)
* He was Comptroller of the Household 1466-1468 and 1470-1473.
* Scots Ambassador to England in April 1472.
* Lord Clerk Register 1468-1470
* Master of the Rolls 1469-1473
* Lord Chief Justice of Scotland from 1473 until his death.
Sir David Guthrie was responsible for building the original tower house of Guthrie Castle in 1468. A second house was later added, and then the two were linked in 1848 in a baronial style expansion. He purchased St Mary’s Church from the Abbey of Arbroath to fund and endow a collegiate church for a provost and three prebends, which was sanctioned by papal bull in 1479.

2nd BARON of GUTHRIE: ALEXANDER GUTHRIE
Infeft by 1500 – Death 1513
Son of David Guthrie (1st of Guthrie, 2nd of Kincaldrum) & Janet Dundas
Born about 1442 – 1481 (see Age Calculations below / Alt.: 14 Jul 1460
Died 9 September 1513 at the Battle of Flodden, Branxton, Northumberland, England
Spouse: Margaret Lyon
Children: David (d.1513), Alexander (4th of Kincaldrum), John of Hiltoun, Elizabeth, George of Kincreich

Historical Note: Obtained a charter dated 25 Sep 1472 under the Great Seal, on the resignation of his father, of the lands and barony of Lour, which included an instrument of sasine for the lands of Guthrie on 23 Aug 1474. In 1478, Sir Alexander Guthrie of Kincaldrum came before the Lords of Council and Session being charged for withholding the tolls normally paid to the miller. There was a mill build at Kincaldrum for the milling of corn. The Abbott and Convent of Cupar claimed payment due them.

Both Alexander and his eldest son David died at Flodden Field in 1513. The title was inherited by David’s eldest son, Andrew.

There is some controversy over the identity of Margaret Lyon, who is traditionally named as the daughter of John Lyon, 3rd Lord Glamis, and Elizabeth Scrymgeour. However, no marriage contract has been found between Alexander Guthrie and Margaret Lyon. The Scottish Peerage reports that Margaret Lyon had a marriage contract dated 10 Jun 1495 to James Rynd younger of Broxmouth, the original charter at Glamis. The spouse of Alexander Guthrie would have had several children born prior to his death in 1513, and the firstborn of those, David, old enough to have a son of his own and to ride into battle at Flodden Field. Warden’s ‘Angus or Forfarshire, the land and people, descriptive and historical‘ on p.389 notes simply that Sir Alexander married a daughter of Lord Glamis.

3rd BARON of GUTHRIE: ANDREW GUTHRIE
Infeft 1513 – Death 15??
Son of David Guthrie & (FNU) MacIntosh
Born est. 1492 – 1513 (see Age Calculations below)
Died 15?? (after 31 Aug 1558)
Spouse: Christian Gardyne
Children: Alexander (4th of Guthrie), William of Ravensby

Historical Note: Alexander Guthrie 2nd of Guthrie, 3rd of Kincaldrum, along with his son and heir, David Guthrie, died during battle at Flodden Field in 1513. Next in line to inherit was David’s son, Andrew Guthrie, who succeeded as 3rd Baron of Guthrie. Andrew’s exact birth year is unknown, but would have been prior to 1513. He married Christian Gardyne of the Gardynes of that Ilk. They had two known sons. The Guthrie title passed on to the eldest, Alexander Guthrie.

On 1 Jun 1532, a Charter by Andrew Guthrie of Guthrie to Mariota Ogilvy of one third of Blackhall [Innerpeffer]. Precept of sasine by Andrew Guthrie of Guthrie to Mariot Ogilvy of one third of Innerpeffer.

4th BARON of GUTHRIE: ALEXANDER GUTHRIE
Infeft 15?? – Death 1587
Son of Andrew Guthrie, 3rd of Guthrie, & Christian Gardyne
Born est 1517 – 1535 (see Age Calculations below)
Died October 1587 at his house in Inverpeffer, Scotland (Death by Assassination)
Spouse: Isobel Wood (daughter of William Wood of Bonnytoun)
Children: Alexander (5th of Guthrie), William of Ravensby, Eastertown, 1st of Gagie, Gabriel, James

Historical Note: 

15 Oct 1545: Precept of clare constat by Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie to John Guthrie of Hilton, of Guthrie.

10 May 1546: A Charter by Alexander Guthrie, son of Andrew Guthrie of Guthrie, to John Guthrie of Esse, parts of Hilton and Eastown of Guthrie

1567 – Member of Parliament, Scotland. Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie was one of the barons who subscribed to the articles agreed to by the general assembly of the kirk.

See – Clan Gardyne – Feud with the Guthrie of Guthrie of that Ilk
(Digital Repository: Academic Dictionaries and Encyclopedia)

“The (Gardyne) family had embarked on a long and bloody feud with their neighbors the Clan Guthrie of Guthrie Castle situated 2miles from Gardyne Castle. The feud started in 1558 when Patrick Gardyne of Gardyne stabbed to death his cousin Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie in a fight which precipitated 80 years of fighting and litigation. At times the two families caused considerable disturbance to the King’s peace as their retainers fought pitched battles in the locality. The feud was finally brought to an end when William Guthrie of Guthrie killed Patrick Gardyne 9th Gardyne of that Ilk and his brother as they crossed Inverpeffer Moor.”

5 Jun 1568: Tack by Gabriel Guthrie, provost and parson of Guthrie, son of Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie, of Guthrie, and the said Alexander Guthrie to Thomas Guthrie, elder, of Hilton and his wife Agnes Auchterlony of the teinds of Hilton of Guthrie.

20 Jan 1577: Arrestment at instance of William Douglas of Glenbervie against Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie.

7 May 1579: Charter by James Guthrie, burgess of Dundee, son of Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie, to William Douglas of Glenbervie and Giles Graham his wife and Robert Douglas their son, of part of Panlathie.

17 Jun 1580: Disposition by Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie to Gabriel Guthrie his son, of the prebendary of Hilton and Langland of Guthrie.

8 Sep 1582: Contract between Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie and James Guthrie, mariner, burgess of Dundee [his son] and Margaret Williamson his wife, concerning Hilton of Guthrie

15 Nov 1583: Instrument of resignation by Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie in favour of Mr Walter Lyndsay of Kemphill, of Hilton, of Guthrie and superiority of Langlands.

10 Mar 1589/90: Assignation by Alexander Wishart of Carnbege and James Wishart his son to Gabriel Guthrie, son of Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie, of the wadset of Hilton of Guthrie.

5 May 1589: Instrument of renunciation by James Wishart, son of Alexander Wishart of Carnebege, to James Guthrie, burgess of Dundee and Gabriel Guthrie, son of deceased Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie, of half of Hilton of Guthrie.

29 May 1600: Contract between Isobel Wood, relict of Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie and Robert Fletcher, bailie of Dundee, proprietor of Innerpeffer anent the tack of Wester Innerpeffer.

29 May 1600: Extract of contract, 29 May 1600, between Isobel Wood, relict of Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie and Robert Fletcher, bailie of Dundee, proprietor of Innerpeffer anent the tack of Wester Innerpeffer. Registered, 19 December 1606

8 Jan 1603: Renunciation by Gabriel Guthrie, son of deceased Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie to Sir Walter Lindsay of Balgayes of Hilton of Guthrie.

3 Mar 1603: Copy, undated, of decreet, 3 March 1604, of Lords of Council in case Alexander Guthrie of that ilk, Alexander Guthrie his son, James William and Gabriel his brothers, David Guthrie, son of John sometime of Hilbinie, John Guthrie his son, and David and Henry Guthrie in Lawis against Sir Walter Lyndesay of Balgavys.

9 Apr 1607: Summons at instance of Robert Fletcher of Innerpeffer, Andrew Fletcher his brother and Andrew Boytty, merchant, burgess of Dundee, to Isobel Wood, relict of Alexander Guthrie of that ilk and William Guthrie her factor.

5th BARON of GUTHRIE: ALEXANDER GUTHRIE
Infeft 1587 – Death c1597
Son of Alexander Guthrie, 4th of Guthrie, & Isobel Wood
Born 1540s-1550s
Died 10 June 1597 in Scotland / Alt.: after 18 Sep 1597)
Spouse: Agnes Falconer of Halkerton
Children: Alexander Guthrie (6th of Guthrie), William Guthrie (7th of Guthrie), Henry Guthrie

Historical Note: Served as a member to the King’s Bodyguard of 25 Gentlemen Pensioners.

18 Jun 1591: Decreet of Lords of Council in case Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie against William Ouchterlonie of Kellie.

22 June 1591: Horning at instance of Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie to William Ouchterlony now of Kellie.

20 Apr-7 May 1595: Executions of charge at instance of Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie to William Auchterlony of Kellie.

6 Nov 1600: Inhibition at instance of Robert Fletcher, dean of guild of Dundee, against Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie and Alexander Guthrie younger.

19 Jul 1603: Contract between Sir Walter Lyndsay of Balgayis and David Lyndsay, his son, and Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie and Alexander Guthrie, his son, concerning Hilton and Langlands.

6th BARON of GUTHRIE: ALEXANDER GUTHRIE
Infeft c1597 – Death 1616
Son of Alexander Guthrie, 5th of Guthrie, & Agnes Falconer (m. 15 Apr 1567)
Born 1568-1570s
Spouse: Jean Leighton of Ulishaven
Children: None known, no male issue

Historical Note: Alexander and Jean had no male issue. The succession at his decease went to his brother, William Guthrie, laird of Memus, who was retoured 20 June 1616.

31 May 1600: Contract between Robert Fletcher of Innerpeffer, Andrew Fletcher his brother and Andrew Boytur, merchant, burgess of Dundee and William Guthrie, brother of Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie.

6 Nov 1600: Inhibition at instance of Robert Fletcher, dean of guild of Dundee, against Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie and Alexander Guthrie younger.

22 Sep 1603: Decreet of the Privy Council concerning Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie, Sir Walter Lindsay of Balgayis, the kirk of Guthrie and prebendaries of Hilton and Langlands, and the Presbytery of Arbroath.

7th BARON of GUTHRIE: WILLIAM GUTHRIE
Infeft 1616 – Disponed 16??
Son of Alexander Guthrie, 5th of Guthrie, & Agnes Falconer (m. 15 Apr 1567)
Born 1569-1570s
Died after 1616
Spouse: Isabella Fenton
Children: None known, no male issue

Historical Note: William Guthrie disponed (legally transferred) the title and lands of the Barony of Guthrie to his 3rd cousin once removed, David Guthrie of Kincaldrum.

8th BARON of GUTHRIE: DAVID GUTHRIE
Infeft 16?? – Disponed 1633
Son of Alexander Guthrie, 6th of Kincaldrum, & Alice Douglas
Great-Grandson of Alexander Guthrie, 2nd of Guthrie, & Margaret Lyon
Born about 1540s-1550s
Died before 25 April 1635
Spouse: Katherine Blair
Children: Alexander Guthrie (8th Kincaldrum), Elizabeth

Historical Note: David’s only son Alexander died before him. David sold the barony of Kincaldrum, and gave the barony over to his brother Patrick Guthrie.

9th BARON of GUTHRIE: REV. PATRICK GUTHRIE
Minister of Towie & Logie Buchan
Infeft 1633 – Death c1635
Son of Alexander Guthrie, 6th of Kincaldrum, & Alice Douglas
Great-Grandson of Alexander Guthrie, 2nd of Guthrie, & Margaret Lyon
Born about 1540s-1550s
Died in 16??
Spouse: Jean Blackwood
Children: Peter Guthrie (10th of Guthrie)

10th BARON of GUTHRIE: PETER GUTHRIE
Infeft 1636 – Disponed 16??
Son of Rev. Patrick Guthrie, 9th of Guthrie, & Jean Blackwood
Born about 1620s
Died in 16??
Spouse: Unknown
Children: Unknown

Historical note: Served heir and disponed the Barony to his 4th cousin once removed, the Rt Rev John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray.

11th BARON of GUTHRIE: RT. REV. JOHN GUTHRIE
Bishop of Moray
Infeft 16?? – Death 1649
Son of Patrick Guthrie (Goldsmith) of St Andrews & Margaret Raitt
Born 1577
Died 23 August 1649 at Guthrie Castle, Forfar, Scotland
Spouse: Nicholas Wood
Children: Bethia (1623), Margaret, Lucretia, Nicola, John, Andrew, Patrick

Historical Note: The son of the goldsmith Patrick Guthrie and Margaret née Rait, in 1597 he completed an MA at the University of St Andrews, becoming a Reader at the church of Arbroath in the same year. Two years later, on 27 August 1599, he became minister of Kinnell parish church in Angus (Presbytery of Arbroath). In the following years he was translated to various churches. In 1603, he became minister of Arbirlot parish, Angus. In 1617, he became minister in the city of Perth, before, on 15 June 1621, becoming minister of the parish of St Giles in Edinburgh.

Guthrie used his appointments as a platform for involvement in the national church. As minister of Arbirlot, he was one of the commissioners of the Presbytery of Arbroath at the Glasgow assembly of 1610. Later in that year, he got elected as clerk of the synod of St Andrews. He was a member and commissioner of the Perth assembly in 1618. In this period he established himself as an ardent supporter of the crown and its episcopalian policies. It was this that brought him the prestigious and important charge of St Giles in 1621. 

It was no surprise that, only two years later, he rose to episcopal rank, obtaining crown nomination to the vacant diocese of Moray on 21 July 1623. He was provided to the see on 16 August of the same year, and received consecration in October.

As Bishop of Moray, Guthrie remained a staunch royalist, an active anti-Catholic and keen promoter of ecclesiastical discipline. He took a large role in the Scottish coronation of King Charles I in 1633. Bishop Guthrie supported the King’s plans to bring the Scottish church in line with the Church of England, authorising all ministers in Moray to obtain and use the new Scottish Book of Common Prayer. 

Bishop Guthrie was, however, out of touch with general religious sentiment in Scotland, and the Glasgow assembly of Scottish churchmen deposed him from his bishopric on 11 December 1638. Guthrie refused to accept this deposition and refused to recognise the legality of the National Covenant. He preached against it into the Spring of 1639 and on 11 July 1639 he was excommunicated by the Scottish church. He attempted to hold out in Spynie Palace. On 16 July 1640, Major-General Robert Monro of Foulis captured the palace. Guthrie was sent to Edinburgh and imprisoned in the city’s Tolbooth.

He was later released, and retired to his estate, purchased in 1636, at Guthrie, Angus. John died at Guthrie on 28 August 1649 and was buried at the Guthrie Collegiate Aisle, the local parish church.

He had married one Nichola Wood, by whom he had three sons (John, Patrick, and Andrew) and three daughters (Bethia, Nicolas, and Margaret*. His oldest son John (d. 1643) followed his father into the ministry, while his youngest son Andrew fought as a royalist during the English Civil War, being captured at the Battle of Philiphaugh (1645) and executed soon after. {Wikipedia}

The bishop’s three sons all died before their father. His daughter Bethia Guthrie served as his heiress, and her husband, Francis Guthrie of Gagie assumed the title and lands of Guthrie.

*Red Book of Scotland and National Records of Scotland list the Contract of Marriage between David Collace and the daughter of John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray, as being with “Margaret Guthrie”, not Lucretia. The couple had a daughter by the name Lucretia, so that may be the cause of the confusion.

12th BARON of GUTHRIE: FRANCIS GUTHRIE, 3rd of Gagie
Infeft 1649 – Death 1677
Son of William Guthrie, 1st of Gagie, & Isabella Leslie
Born about 1600
Died about 1677
Spouse: Bethia Guthrie, daughter of Rt. Rev. John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray, 11th of Guthrie, & Nicholas Wood
Children: John (13th of Guthrie)

Historical Note: Some sites list Bethia as the person inheriting the title and land from her father. The laws of primogeniture prevented daughters from directly inheriting title and property. The bishop got around this little snag by naming Francis Guthrie, 3rd of Gagie, as his ‘adopted son’ and marrying him to his daughter Bethia. Whether as a son or son-in-law it was Francis Guthrie who received the title and officially owned the land. Bethia Guthrie was still a baroness, but that title came through her husband.

13th BARON of GUTHRIE: JOHN GUTHRIE
Infeft 1677 – Death 1728
Son of Francis Guthrie, 3rd Gagie & 12th Guthrie, & Bethia Guthrie
Born 1640s-1650s in Angus, Scotland
Died about 1728 in Angus, Scotland
Spouse: Cecelia Carnegie
Children: James (14th of Guthrie), Jean (1691), Bathia (1693), Elizabeth (1697), Margaret

14th BARON of GUTHRIE: JAMES GUTHRIE
Infeft 1728 – Death 1752
Son of John Guthrie, 13th of Guthrie, & Cecelia Carnegie
Born after 1680 in Angus, Scotland
Died 11 February 1752 in Guthrie, Angus, Scotland
Spouse: Margaret Turnbull
Children: John (1705 / 15th of Guthrie), James (1707), Agnes (1710), Georg (1711), Cecill (1713)

15th BARON of GUTHRIE: JOHN GUTHRIE
Infeft 1705 – Death 1776
Son of John Guthrie, 14th of Guthrie, & Margaret Turnbull
Born about 3 April 1707 in Guthrie, Angus, Scotland
Died 9 August 1776 in Guthrie, Angus, Scotland
Spouse: Jean Hodge m. 1732
Children: John Guthrie (1735 / 16th of Guthrie), Jean, Margaret

See Matriculation Document: 1779. John Guthrie of Guthrie (Coats of Arms).

16th BARON of GUTHRIE:  JOHN GUTHRIE
Infeft 1776 – Death ????
Son of John Guthrie, 15th of Guthrie, & Jean Hodge
Born after 1732
Died ????
Spouse: Margaret Whyte m. 1763
Children: John (1771 / 17th of Guthrie), Jean, Margaret, James, Robert

17th BARON of GUTHRIE: JOHN GUTHRIE
Infeft ???? – Death 1845
Son of John Guthrie, 16th of Guthrie, & Margaret Whyte
Born about 1771 in Angus, Scotland
Died 12 Nov 1845 in Scotland
Spouse: Anne Douglas m 24 Jun 1798 in Guthrie, Angus, Scotland
Children: Elizabeth Jane (1799), Margaret (1802), John (1805 / 18th of Guthrie), Ann (1811), Jane (1813), Helen (1816)

18th BARON of GUTHRIE: JOHN GUTHRIE
Infeft 1845 – Death 1877
Son of John Guthrie, 17th of Guthrie, & Anne Douglas
Born 23 July 1805 in Guthrie, Angus, Scotland
Died 7 December 1877 in Guthrie Castle, Angus, Scotland
Spouse: Harriet Maude m 23 July 1844
Children: Harriet Maude (1850), Edith Douglas (1852), Mary Berthia 91853), John (1855), John Douglas Maude (19th of Guthrie), William Mylne (1858)

19th BARON of GUTHRIE: JOHN DOUGLAS MAUDE GUTHRIE 
Infeft 1877 – Death 1928
Son of John Guthrie, 18th of Guthrie, & Harriet Maude
Born 5 March 1856 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Died 27 January 1928 in Angus, Scotland
Spouse: Mary Macpherson Davidson m. 1884 in Billericay, Essex, England
Children: John Neil (1885), Ivan Douglas (1886 / 20th of Guthrie), Rupert Victor Davidson (1887), Mary Viola (1890), Duncan Nigel (1891), Maurice (1894)

20th BARON of GUTHRIE: IVAN DOUGLAS GUTHRIE
Infeft 1928 – Death 1964
Son of John Douglas Maude Guthrie, 19th of Guthrie, & Mary Macpherson Davidson
Born 6 August 1886 in Banbury, Oxfordshire, England
Died 4 July 1964 in Angus, Scotland
Spouse: Kathleen Mona Gough
Children: Moyra Irene (1922 / 21st of Guthrie), Christian Hilda (1924)

21st BARONESS of GUTHRIE: MOYRA IRENE GUTHRIE
Infeft 1964 – Death 1984
Daughter of Col. Ivan Douglas Guthrie, 20th of Guthrie, & Kathleen Mona Gough
Born 1 June 1922 in Guthrie, Angus, Scotland
Died 22 June 1984
Spouse: Mark Henry Phillips m. 1944 in Westminster, Middlesex, England
Children: Loetitia Dawn (1945), Dermott Mark Charles (1952), Rosanagh Mona (19??)

22nd BARON of GUTHRIE: ALEXANDER IVAN BEDINI-JACOBINI GUTHRIE
Infeft 2000 – Death 23 Mar 2020
Son of Loetitia Dawn Phillips & Leonardo Bedini 
Born October 1967

23rd BARON of GUTHRIE: CHRISTIAN GUTHRIE

AGE CALCULTIONS:
During the 1400s-1500s, very few Guthrie birth dates and dates of marriage are found documented. The OPR birth and marriage records begin in the mid-1500s. The best we can do is to look at major events of the time, other documents or events that would have provided a ‘born by’ date or ‘adult by’ date giving a hard target date as the justification for an estimated range. Examining a Birth Range may more accurately capture the actual birth year than a singular estimated year that might be off-target by decades.

Alexander Guthrie, 5th of Guthrie (est.DOB 1542-1548)
*Spouse: Agnes Falconer married on 15 Apr 1567
*If Alexander was aged 16 – 25 at his marriage in 1567, his birthdate range would be 1542-1551.
*His father resigned his role in 1569, so it is also likely that Alexander was legally an adult by that date, so at least 21 years of age, or born before 1548. This narrows the estimated range to 1542 – 1548.

Alexander Guthrie, 4th of Guthrie (est.DOB 1517-1535)
*Spouse: Isobell Wood of Bonnytoun (alive in 1600)
*No marriage date found.
*If he was aged 16-25 at the birth of his eldest son, Alexander (5th), 1542 – 1548, his estimated birthdate range would be 1517-1526 to 1526-1535, a combined range of 1517 – 1535.

Andrew Guthrie, 3rd of Guthrie (est.DOB 1492-1513)
*Spouse: Christian Gardyne
*No marriage date found.
*Inherited in 1513 upon the death of his father, David, and grandfather, Alexander, 2nd of Guthrie, at Flodden Field. This is a fixed historical date.
*This proves that Andrew Guthrie was born no later than 1513.
*If he was aged 16-25 at the birth of his son, Alexander (4th) between 1517 – 1535, his estimated birthdate range would be 1492-1502 to 1510-1519, but narrowed because it would have to be no later than 1513. The narrowed range: 1492 – 1513.

David Guthrie, younger of Guthrie (never inherited title) (est. DOB 1497 or 1467-1497)
*Spouse: Unidentified.
*No marriage date found.
*Died at Flodden Field with his father, Alexander, 2th of Guthrie in 1513.
*If David Guthrie was 16-25 at the birth of his son, Andrew in 1492-1513, his estimated birthdate range would be 1467-1476 to 1488-1497, or a combined range of 1467-1497.
*His mother is documented by Guthrie descendants as Margaret Lyon, but the woman by that name who is supposed to be the wife of Alexander Guthrie, 2nd of Guthrie, married James Rhynd in 1495 and had a child by him in 1496. This only leaves 1497 as David’s possible birth year. He had younger Guthrie siblings, so the Guthrie-Lyon marriage would have had to take place after the Rhynd-Lyon marriage.

Alexander Guthrie, 2nd of Guthrie (est.DOB: 1442 – 1481)
*Spouse: Margaret Lyon (?)
*Alexander’s marriage date to Margaret Lyon is not found documented.
*Margaret Lyon, or the woman who is supposed to be Alexander Guthrie’s wife, is documented with a marriage to James Rynd in 1495 with whom she had a child born in 1496.
*If Alexander (2nd) was 16-25 at the birth of son David in 1497, his estimated birthdate range would be 1472 – 1481.
*If the Margaret Lyon married to Alexander Guthrie was a different woman than the one who married James Rhynd, the original birth range estimate for son David applies: 1467 – 1497. If his father Alexander (2nd) was 16 – 25 when he was born, his broader estimated birth range date would be 1442-1451 to 1472-1481 or a combined range of 1442 – 1481.

David Guthrie, 1st of Guthrie (est.DOB: 1417 – 1449)
*Matriculated from Cologne University in Dec 1443 (typical ages 14-16 in 1445)
*Bachelor’s Degree on 20 May 1445 – (typical age 17 to 19 in 1445 Scotland)
*Spouse 1: (Unidentified) daughter of Thomas Panmure – marriage annulled
*Spouse 2: Janet de Dundas – married before 1465
*If David was 14-16 in 1443, his estimated birth range would be 1427-1429.
*If David was 17-19 in 1445, his estimated birth range would be 1426-1428.
*If David was 16-25 at the birth of his son Alexander (2nd) in 1442-1448, his estimated birthdate range would be 1417-1426 to 1456-65. Since it is also known that he married before 1465, he would likely have been 16-25 by that date making the upper range of the estimate 1440-1449, or a combined range of 1417 – 1449.

READING and RESOURCES

BOOK: Guthrie, James Cargill. (1875) The Vale of Strathmore: Its Scenes and Legends. Edinburgh, Scotland. (Digital Repository: Internet Archive)
Chapter XXIII. GUTHRIE CASTLE

WEBSITE: Court of the Lord Lyon – Frequently Asked Questions

DOCUMENTS: Scotlands People – Legal Records > Coats of Arms > Guthrie (Search)

BOOK: Warden, Alex J (1882) Angus or Forfarshire: The Land and People, Descriptive and Historical

DOCUMENTS: Records of the Guthrie Family of Guthrie, Angus. Writs of the Lands of Guthrie, 1388-1630. Digital Repository: National Records of Scotland.

BOOK: Inventory of the Records and of Particular Charters and Documents in the Charter House of the City of Edinburgh. Edinburgh (Scotland), J. Baxter & Son, 1899. Ref: p.12 Entries for Alexander Guthrie, Senior and Mr Alexander Guthrie. Digital Repository: HathiTrust.

BOOK: Scotland. Privy Council. (18391918). The acts of the Lords of Council in civil causes. Volume 1: A.D. 1496 – 1501 [Edinburgh]. Digital Repository: HathiTrust.

The index identifies:
Guthrie of that Ilk, Mr David, sometime Clerk Register, xcviii, 490
Guthrie of that Ilk, Sir Alexander, 53, 54, 144, 298, 351, 373, 486, 490
Guthrie, Christian, widow of George Summer of Balzeordie, 141, 175, 192, 247
Guthrie, Mr David, Provost of Guthrie, xcviii, 438, 483, 489, 490
Guthrie, David, 192
Guthrie, Elizabeth, widow of Alexander Maule, 483
Guthrie, James 163; his wife. See Katherine Lyn.
Guthrie, John, in Brechin, 53
Guthrie, John, 477
Guthrie, Marion, in Dundee, widow of David Annand of Kingquheries, 255, 348
Guthrie, Walter, 138
Guthrie, Eastertound of , lands and mill of, 486, 490
Guthrie, Kirktoun of, lands of, 490
Guthrie, Provost of, See Mr David Guthrie.

p.53 (image 201/746) – 17 Jan 1496. Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk v Johne Dempster of Auchterloss. Spuilzie of grain. Diligence against witnesses. Fol. 54a.

p.141 (image 291/746) – 17 Mar 1497 – Christiane of Guthrie against Jhohe Dempster of Auchterless. Teinds. Reference to oath of party.

p.144 (image 294/746) – 17-19 Mar 1497 – Dempster of Auchterless, Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk, Restitution of Goods, Delay of distraint by consent. (see pp.53, 144)

p.175 (image 327/746) – April 1498 – Guthrie, Procuratory, see p.141
Christiane of Guthrie, the spouse of umquhile Georg Somer of Balzorty…

p.192 (image 344/746) – 8 May 1498 – Dempster of Auchterless v Christiane Guthre. Damages.

p.247 (image 399/746) – 4-5 July 1498 – Fol.45b. Christian Guthre v. Dempster of Auchterless. Damages. Decree. (See pp.141, 192)
This term being assigned to John Dempster of Ouchterles , in theaction Fol . 45b . between him and Christian Guthre to whom he hadpaid the principal sum Guthrie . and she had discharged him of thedamage and expenses sustained by her Dempster of through want ofseven oxen , and both parties compearing , the Lords decern him topay to her 4 1. 10 s . of damage and expense sufficiently proved .

p.298 (image 450/746) – 14-15 Jan 1498-99 Folio 131b. Sir Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk. Carmichael protestation.
William Carmichael protested because Sir Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk summoned him to relieve and keep him scatheless at the hands of John Dempster of Auchterles of 40 chalders of oats, 10 chalders of beer, half a chaldler of pease, and others, but compared not to pursue.

p.351 (image 503/746) – 18-20 Jan 1499-1500. Guthrie v Carmichael. Procuratory.
William Carmichael appoints Sir Patrick Hume of Polworth, knight, and Mr James Henresone his procurators in the action pursued by Sir Alexander Guthrie against him for ten chalders of oats.

p.373 (image 525/746) – 31 Jan – 1 Feb 1499-1500 – Guthrie of that Ilk. Carmichael protestation.
William of Carmichael , burgess of Edinburgh , protested because Alexander Guthre of that Ilk , knight , ” gert summond him to releif and keip him Carmichael harmeles and skaithles at the handis of Jhone Dempster of Ouchterless of Protestation . xl chalderof aitis , x chalder of bere , and half a chalder of peise , ” but compeared not to pursue . (See p.298)

p.438 (image 590/746) – 17-18 Nov 1500 – “Master David Guthre, dotour (sic), protestis that he tyne nocht hisProtestation . summond nor that his parti cum nocht til protestitagane him ” ( sic ) .

p.483 (image 635/746) 12-13 March 1500-1 – Folio 18a. Guthrie. Maule of Panmure. Wrongous Occupancy.
Action by Elizabeth Guthre , widow of Alexander Maule , againstThomas Fol . 18a . Maule of Panmure , knight , and John Erskin of Dun, younger , viz . , the Guthrie . said Thomas for wrongful occupationof the lands of Cammystone with the Maule of mill and pertinents ,and the said John for wrongful occupation of the half Wrongous ofthe lands of Hadirweik with pertinents , lying in the sheriffdom ofoccupancy . Forefare . The pursuer compearing by Mr David Guthre ,provest of that Ilk , ” and the said Thomas compearing personally ,and John Erskine compearing by Mr Robert Erskin , his procurator ,the Lords ordain the defenders to desist from possessing the saidlands , that the pursuer may enjoy the same in terms of her chartersand instruments of sasine of conjunct infeftment produced ; and theyassign to her 6th July next to prove the extent of intromissions .

p.486 (image 638/746) – 15-16 March 1500-1 – Laird of Guthrie. Protest.
” The Lard of Guthre askit til be actit that he was bot callit himself tilwarand and nocht as ane usurar ( illegible ) and that tharefore quhat the Lordis did suld turne him til na prejudice.

p.489 (Image 641/746) – 17 Mar 1500-1 – Guthrie. Instrument.
Mr David Guthre asked instrument that Mr David Gardin ” grantit in Guthrie . his ressons that the landis war worth x li . maire than thesoume that was Instrument . pait in the letters of assedacion .”

p.490 (Image 642/746) – 17 Mar 1500-1 – Folio 31b, 32a, 32b. Garden. Aberchirder, etc. Wrongous occupancy.
Action by Mr David Gardin , portioner of the lands of Guthre , against William Aberchirder , John Aire , William Aire , Alexander Guthre of that Ilk , knight , James Durehame of the Grayng , GilesScrymgeour , widow of Mr Thomas Durehame of the Grayng , andDavid Rossy of that Ilk , now her spouse , viz . , William Aberchirder wrongful occupation of the half of the lands of Kirktoun of Guthre ,John and William Aire for wrongful occupation of the sixth part of thelands of Estertoune of Guthre ” with twa akeris of land and the toft ofthe sammyn , ” and the others for intromitting with part of the rentsand profits of the said half lands of Kirktoun of Guthre . The saidpursuer , Alexander Guthre of that Ilk and James Durehame of the Grayng compearing personally , and the rest com- pearing by MrDavid Guthre , provest of that Ilk , ” and Alexander Boyis , theirprocurators , the said procurators alleged that ” Alexander Guthre ,knicht , ” ought to warrant the said persons , and the said Alexander “grantit til warrand thame the sadis landis , ” therefore the Lordsordain him ” til werrand til the sadis persons the sadis landis andtakkis gif thai ony have als mekle landis and als gude in uther placisas law will ; and having considered allegations and defences , theLords find the whole defenders in the wrong to possess and uplift aslibelled , because the said Alexander Guthre produced ” ane letterunder umquhile Thomas Tulloch of Bonyngtoune sele made til umquhile Maister David Guthre of that Ilk , of the sadis landis , quhilkwas nocht ane sufficient tytle til him because it was nowthir anesufficient assedacione nor impignoracione of the sadis landis ” ; andthey ordain the pursuer to enjoy possession conform to his charterand sasine and confirmation thereof by the overlord , produced . “And attour ordanis ilk ane of the sadis partiis til discharge utheris ofal soumes of money clamyt or to be askit apone utheris for the malisand proffittis of the sadis landis takin and intromettit be vertew of thesadis letters made be the sade umquhile Thomas Tullo til the sadeumquhile Maister David Guthre in ony tyme bigane or be contract forthe redemyng and outqwiting of the sammyn.

BOOK: Scotland. Privy Council., Hannay, R. Kerr., Paton, H., Brown, P. Hume (Peter Hume)., Masson, D., Burton, J. Hill. (1898). The register of the Privy Council of Scotland. Volume 1: 1545-1569. Edinburgh: H.M. General Register House. Digital Repository: HaithiTrust.

p.32 (image 152)- William Guthrie and many others summoned for the murder of the Cardinal
At Edinburgh, the penultimate day of July, in the year of our Lord one thousand five hundred and forty-six.

p.174 – 1561 – Alexander Guthrie, his actions:
Thridlie , the said libell is generale in sa fer as the gudis libellit arallegit in the libell to pertene to the actouris , and markit with thairmarkis , quhilk claus is adjectit to mak the mair cleir probatiounpresumptive , be the apponing of thair markis thairto ; quhilkismarkis nor descriptioun of the fassioun and forme thair of is on nawyise specifiit , discrevit , nor payntit in nor upoun the said libell asaucht to have bene bayth of law and practic , usit of befoir in all sikactionis , as wes usit betuix the French- men of Nantis contra Alexander Guthre and utheris , quhairby taking away my defenssis ;for gif thai wald specify the forme of the mark I culd preve thecontrair per scripta , and propone utheris defences uther-wyise as accordis ; and thairfoir absolvitour suld be gevin as thesaidis summondis is libellit .

p.218 – 1562: Apud Edzell , xxvto Augusti , anno , etc. Ixijo: Messenger of Arms – stamp failed
In presence of the Quenis Majestie , comperit Robert Montgumry ,and be- come cautioun and souirtie to hir Grace , that JohneFullartoun of Kyn- nabir suld compeir befoir hir Hienes and Lordis ofSecreit Counsale in Edinburgh within foure dayis nixt eftir hir Gracesarryving thairat , to ansuer to hir Majestie , upoun the allegit falseingand feinyeing of the stamp or signet of Alexander Guthrie ,messenger , and affixeing and put- ting of the samyn to theexecutioun of chargis and hornyng , maid be the said Alexander , ofthe lettres in the foure formes obtenit be David Linde- say of Lenok ,and Sir Andro Lindesay , vicar of Newtyld his tutour , for his interes ,upoun David Lindesay of the Hauch , denunceing him rebell andputting of him to the horne be verteu thairof , under the pane of fyvehundreth markis , and the said Johne actit and oblist him to releif thesaid Robert thairof at the Quenis Majesteis handis .

p.463: (image 583) Alexander Guthrie, burgess of Edinburgh, denounced as rebel [Probably not Guthrie of that Ilk]
At Edinburgh , the eighth day of June , in the year , etc. 66 .
(see text)

p.655 – Alexander and David Guthrie, brothers – fugitives from the laws
At Edinburgh, the nineteenth of April, in the year , etc. 69º
(see text)

BOOK: Scotland. Privy Council., Hannay, R. Kerr., Paton, H., Brown, P. Hume (Peter Hume)., Masson, D., Burton, J. Hill. (1898). The register of the Privy Council of Scotland. Volume 2: 1569-1578. Edinburgh: H.M. General Register House. Digital Repository: HaithiTrust.

p.ci Nov 8 1576 (590)
Guthrie of that Ilk , under the Act of 1567 authorising the patrons of Provostries or Prebendaries to endow bursars with them ,has presented one of his sons to the Provostry , and another to the Prebend , of Guthrie . John Erskin of Dun , superintendent of Angus, refuses collation . He is cited , but fails to appear . Collation to begiven , under pain of denunciation ( Aet 1567 , c . 13. The preamblestates the reason for the enactment to be ” because the poverty ofmoney is in sic sort that they may not hold their children at letters ,whereby the maist pairt of the youth of this realm wants the giftsand graces of learning requisite in that charge , ” viz . , the ministry . -Act . Parl . Scot . , vol . iii . p . 25 ).

p.cxi. May 16, 1578. (698)
( 736 ) Gairdin of that Ilk slain by Guthrie of that Ilk and hisaccomplices . Precautions against the escape of the perpetrators by sea.

BOOK: The Register of the Privy Council of Scotland v. 3 1578/1585. Scotland Privy Council. v. 14, 1st Series: Agenda A.D. 1545-1625; 2d Series 1625-1660 (v.8), 1544-1660)Edinburgh : H.M. General Register House, 1898. Ref: p.92. Digital Repository: HathiTrust.

p.92 (Page 129) Stirling Castle, 27 Jan 1578-9: Caution for the Laird of Guthrie
Caution by Johnne Erskin of Balhagartie for Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk, that the said Alexander will appear before the King and Council on the 15th of March next, and meanwhile will keep the peace towards “Master David Gardin of that Ilk, Mr Gilbert Gardin of Booth, Andro Hereyeld, citing in Brechin, Robert Gardin in Latin, and Alexander Gardin of Freok, thair men, tenets or servandis,” under pain of £1,000.

p.92. (Page 129) Caution for David and Gilbert Garden.
Counterpart caution by Master David Gardin of that Ilk and Master Gilbert Gardin of Both for the appearance of themselves and of Andro Hereyeild in Breichin, Robert Gardin in Latin and Alexander Gardin of Freok, before the King and Council on the same day, and for their good behavior meanwhile to the Laird of Guthrie, the penalty to be a thousand pounds for each of the two principals, and 500 merks for each of the others.

p.118 (Page 173) Sterling Castle, 19th March 1578-9: Caution by Caiden of that Ilk and Garden of Boith.
Caution by Master David Gardin of that Ilk and Master Gilbert Gardin of Boith, the first under pain of £1,000, and the second under the pain of 500 merks, that neither they nor theirs shall molest Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk, or his men or tenants.

Caution by the same Gardens for three others:
Caution by the same two Gardins for Andro Hereyeild in Brechin, Robert Gardin in Latin, and Alexander Gardin of Freok, to the same effect, each of them under pain of 500 merks.

p.138 (Page 202) Sterling Castle, 15th April 1578-9: Caution for Lady Grange
Caution by “Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk, and Robert Mowbray, fear of Barnebowgall,” that they will “enter and present Margaret Leirmonth, relict of umquhile Sir Williame Kirkcaldy of Grange, knycht,” before the King and Council at Stirling or elsewhere, on 15 days’ warning, “to answer to sic things as salbe inquirit of hir:” the penalty to be £1,000.

p.332 Holyroodhouse, 7th October 1579. Bailies, Council, and Deacons of Crafts of Edinburgh, in the matter of election to the Provostship.
This entry involves Alexander Guthrie, the common clerk of Edinburgh, not Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk.

p.335 (Page 389) 1579: Gardin of that Ilk to be harmless of Guthrie of that Ilk
Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk, having failed to find sufficient caution not to molest or trouble Mr David Gardin of that Ilk and Mr Gilbert Gardin of Boith, had been commanded to remain in Sterling till he did find such caution. he had, nevertheless, departed from the said burgh without finding the caution, and “in the menetyme takes advantage be persute of the said Mr David and his friends” upon the alleged contravention of the act of caution found by the said Mr David, dated 27th January 1578, “disappointed him of the like persute be the said Alexanderis non-finding of sortie.”—Parties having been called, and Gardin appearing personally, with Mr Henrie Balfour as his prolocutor, and Guthrie being represented by Mr Johnne Russell as his procurator, the Lords ordain the defender, under pain of horning, again to appear before them upon the 10th of February next, and meanwhile to oblige himself, “and ane or tua responsall sorteis,” in the books of the Council, “to be answerable far the 15th day of March last to the said tenth day of February next, and siclyke thaireftir, according to the former and band of obligation had of the said Mr Daviid,” ie. that Alexander Guthrie or his men shall not molest the said Mr David or his men, under pain of £1,000.

p.372 (p.411) 1579-80. Caution for Guthrie of that Ilk>
Caution in £1,000, by Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk, and Alexander Guthrie, his son and apparent heir, that the former shall not “invade, molest, trouble, nor persew” Mr David Gardin of that Ilk, or his men.

p.398 (P.590) Edinburgh, 3rd July 1581. Caution for Alexander Guthrie.
Caution in £100 by Alexander Guthre, heir-apparent of Kyncaldrum, for the appearance of Alexander Guthrie, servitor of Patrik Guthre of Doughty, before the justice when warned.

BOOK: Scotland. Privy Council., Hannay, R. Kerr., Paton, H., Brown, P. Hume (Peter Hume)., Masson, D., Burton, J. Hill. (1898). The register of the Privy Council of Scotland. Volume IV AD 1585-1592. Edinburgh: H.M. General Register House. Digital Repository: HaithiTrust.

p.304 (Page 75) Oath of Alexander guthrie of that Ilk in Acts 1587-89.
1588. Charge had been given by Mr Walter Lindsay of Balgayis to Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk to answer before the King and Council to his complaint “tuicheing the said Alexanderis coming, accompanied with persons boding in armes, to the said Mr Walteris landis of Hiltoun upon the xxvii day of June last bypass, and intrometting with certain turf casino to be his servants in his name and to his use, and leading of the same to the Longed, quhair the said Alexander treassonableie rased.fyre, print and destroyed the saudis turves, dispute of the said Mr Walter.” And now, both parties appearing personally, Mr Walter referred the matter “simplicity to the said Alexanderis aith”; and he, being sworn, “declairit that he caustic niche the saudis turfs to be led and brant upon certain knowledge had be him that thai onywayes appertenit to the said Mr Walter, nor yet in dispute of him, bot onlie led and brant the same turffis for guiding of his land, as being informed be his awe servants that they appertenit to himself, and that it myth be that thair were sum of Mr Walteris turfs among thame.” Upon this declaration the said Mr Walter “skit act and instrument.”

p.393 (Page 210) Acts 1587-89
Caution by Alexander Guthrie of Kincaldrum for Williame Tyrie, eldest son of Williame Tyrie of Busbeis, that he will not harm his father, his tenants, or servants.

p.415-16 (Page 247)Edinburgh, 27th Sept. 1589. Caution for Ross of Ballivat and others.
Caution by Alexander Guthrie of Kincaldrum for Johnne Roe of Ballivat, David Roe and Walter Roe, father-brothers to the late Hucheoun Roe in Aulderne, and Alexander Braibnair in Narne, in 300 merks each, that they shall answer before the Council upon 20th October next “tuicheing the cruel murthour of the said umquhile Hucheoun Ros.”

p.576 (Page 482) Hollyrood House – 5th February 1590
Caution by Alexander Guthrie;, fiar of Kincaldrum, for Johnne Ogilvy of Innerquharratie, and by the said Johnne for David, his brother, Archibald Ogilvy and Thomas Simsoun, his servants, Johnne Ramsay, David Walker, and Alexander Carnegy, tenants to Thomas Fotheringhame of Poury, that they will not harm Allesoun Charterhous, Lady Poury, or Mr James, Alexander, and Williame Fotheringhames, her sons, under the pains contained in the letters executed against them.

p.598 (Page 515) Edinburgh, 18th March 1590. Protest for Archibald Douglas in the matter of a stock of Bibles that ought to have been delivered to him.
Complaint by Archibald Douglas, messenger, in Auld Abirdene, as Page 515. follows:-He having raised letters charging James Arbuthnott of Lentushe, David Guthrie; of Kincaldrum, Williame Guthrie; of Halkertoun, and Williame Rynd of Kers, as cautioners for the late Alexander Arbuthnott and Thomas Bassinden, printers, to deliver to him a certain number of Bibles “bundin blak, and claspitt,” or else the sum of money advanced by him therefor (see vol. ii. pp. 544-546), the said cautioners. had obtained suspension of the said letters “to ane certane day of lang tyme bigane”; which, however, they “have sufferrit to ly ouer uncallit sensyne.”..–The complainer appearing by James Harris, his procurator, but the said cautioners making no appearance, the said procurator protests, in respect of their absence, that the letters obtained by the said Archibald against them shall be put to farther execution, notwithstanding the said suspension; and the Lords admit the protest and ordain accordingly.

p.603 (page 521) Dalkeith, 27th March 1591. Caution for Ogilvy of Inverquharity and others.
Caution by Sir Thomas Lyoun of Auldbar , treasurer , for JohnneOgilvy of Dalkeith , Innerquharratie , Gilbert Ogilvy of that Ilk , PatrikWode of Bonnytoun , James Wode , his son and apparent heir ,Thomas Fotheringhame of that Ogilvy of Inverquharity Ilk , ThomasFotheringhame , his son and apparent heir , Johnne Lyoun of andothers . Cossynnis , elder , Johnne Lyoun , fiar thereof , Patrik Maull ofPanmure , Andro Moncur of that Ilk , Patrik Ogilvy of Inchemartine ,Patrik Ogilvy , his son and apparent heir , Petir Hay of Meginche ,Williame Blair of Bathyok , Patrik Kynnaird of that Ilk , David Gairdin ,elder of Leyis , David Gardin , fiar thereof , David Guthrie ofKincaldrum , Alexander Guthrie , his son and apparent heir , [ Johnne] Nevay of that Ilk , [ Johnne ] Nevay , his son , fiar thereof , GeorgeHaliburtoun of Pitcur , George Haliburtoun , his son and apparentheir , George Haliburtoun of Pittarthie , Williame Blair of Bagillo ,Johnne Lamby of Dunkeny , Johnne Lyoun of Rochelhill , JohnneThornetoun of that Ilk , Alexander Balbirnie of Innerrichtie , AndroGray of Lour , Williame Wode of Latoun , David Maxwell of Teling ,Alexander Guthrie of Halkertoun , Patrik Guthrie of Pitmeweis ,Thomas Lyell of Murthill , Alexander Lyell , his son and apparent heir ,James Lyoun of Eister Ogill , David Fentoun of Wester Ogill , AndroGuthrie of Bannabrich , Walter Rollok , tutor of Duncrub , James ( ?Johnne ) Skryngeour of Glaswell , Johnne Wishert of Bogy , JohnneWishert , his son and apparent heir , James Erskin , portioner ofAuchtirforfair , Thomas Wishert , portioner of Bandarg , ArchibaldGuthrie of Muirtoun , Williame Guthrie , brother of AlexanderGuthrie of Halker- toun , David Ogilvy , brother of Johnne Ogilvy ofInnerquharatie , Mr Gilbert Ogilvy , son of the Laird of Poury – Ogilvy ,Alexander Nevay in Foferty , Robert Lyoun of Scrogerfeild , DavidLyoun of Balgillo ( Balgillie ) , Williame Lyoun in Nether Balgillo ,Alexander Guthrie in Craquhymilne , Johnne Guthrie there , Richard( ? Robert ) Rynd in Phanno , Richard Rynd in Wester Doid , RobertSturok there , Patrik Lyoun , burgess in Dundee , Juleane Wilsoun inGlammis , Michael Lyoun there , Alexander Ker in Bonnytoun , JamesWalker in Drumglen ( ? Drumgley ) , Thomas Lyoun in Killymure ,Abraham Pigott there , Johnne Hassuell ( Heswell ) there, Caution for Woodhall and others .James Craig in Pitticrew ( Pettreuchy ) , and Johnne Weddellie there ,that Acta 1589–91 . the community and inhabitants of the burgh ofForfair shall be harmless . of the said persons , under the painscontained in the letters executed against them at the instance of the said community .

p.608 (Page 531) Edinburgh, 14th April. 1591. Band for the Bailies and Council of Forfar.
Registration , by Mr Johnne Russell , advocate , as procurator for thecautioner and principals , of a band of caution in 2000 merks by MrWilliame Carnecros of Balmashennair for George Sutie , WilliameAndir- soun , David Strang , bailies of the burgh of Forfair , WalterLindsay , David Hunter , George Hunter , Cristell Ramsay , AlexanderHude , James Banye , Cristell Menteith , Patrik Alexander , WilliameSpalding , James Rynd , George Alde , and Archibald Andirsoun ,councillors thereof , that Johnne Ogilvy of Innerquharrite and hisretainers foresaid ( see ante , p . 603 ) , together with the followingpersons , viz . , James Strauchan of Carmylie , David Guthrie , sonand apparent heir of Alexander Guthrie , younger of Kincaldrum ,David Rossie of that Ilk , David Guthrie alias Dum David , Page 531 .and Johnne Guthrie alias Stratyrum , shall be harmless of the saidbailies , councillors , and other inhabitants of the said burgh .Subscribed at Forfair , 13th April , before Mr James Rait , minister atKynnetlis , Robert Lausoun , reader at Forfair , Alexander Weddell ,burgess of Forfair , and Johnne Traill , notary public , -who subscribesfor the cautioner , Williame Andirsoun , bailie , Walter Lindsay ,Alexander Huid , David Hunter , George Hunter , James Bany , CristellRamsay , James Rynd , George Alde , and Archibald Andirsoun , “becaus we can not write our selffis .”

p.624 (Page) Edinburgh, 24th May 1591. Caution for the Master of Angus.
Caution in £ 10,000 by Alexander Guthrie , fiar of Kincaldrum , forActa 1589-91 . William Douglas , eldest son of Williame , Earl of Angus , that he shall Page 548 . repair to Dundee within four dayshereof and depart furth of this realme within 40 days thereafter , andthat he shall not return again without the King’s license. 

p/693 (page 66) Acts 1591-94. Edinburgh, 22nd Nov 1591. Caution for Guthrie of that Ilk.
Caution by Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk , as principal , andAlexander Caution for Balbirnie of Innerrichtie , as surety for him , in2000 merks , that he and Guthrie of all for whom he is answerableby the general band shall keep good rule . Caution in £ 1000 byDavid Seytoun of Weddirlie for Alexander Caution for Achiesoun ofGosfurde , that Patrik Leirmonth in Abirlady , Williame Gosford .Sinclair there , and Williame Grundiesoun there , shall be harmless of him 

BOOK: Scotland. Privy Council., Hannay, R. Kerr., Paton, H., Brown, P. Hume (Peter Hume)., Masson, D., Burton, J. Hill. (1898). The register of the Privy Council of Scotland. Volume VI: 1599-1604 . Edinburgh: H.M. General Register House. Digital Repository: HaithiTrust.

p.672 (Fol.293 a) Acts of Cation 1600-01. 20 Dec 1600. Alexander Guthrie.
Alexander Guthrie , elder of that Ilk , for Alexander Guthrie , younger of that Ilk , 2000 merks , not to harm Mr. David Ogilvy , son of James , Lord Ogilvy of Airlie , -Mr . Thomas Craig , advocate , registering the band , written by David Wilsoun , notary , and subscribed at Maines , 15th Fol . 293 , a . December , before Alexander Scott in Cowll , Androw Allane in Ludgeing- toun , James Lindsay , messenger , and said writer hereof .

Alexander Guthrie , younger of that Ilk , for Alexander Guthrie ,elder of that Ilk , 2000 merks , not to harm Mr. David Ogilvy , son ofJames , Lord Ogilvy of Airlie , -Mr . Thomas Craig , registering theband , written by David Wilsoun , notary , and subscribed at Guthrie, 15th December , Fol . 294 , a . before Alexander Scott in Cowll ,Andro Allane in Ludgeingtoun , James Lindsay , messenger , and saidnotary.

BOOK: Scotland. Privy Council., Hannay, R. Kerr., Paton, H., Brown, P. Hume (Peter Hume). Masson, D., Burton, J. Hill. (1898). The register of the Privy Council of Scotland. Volume XV 1545-1625. Edinburgh: H.M. General Register House.

“схххіі INTRODUCTION. Two of the Provostries in this last list of eight, viz. that of Guthrie; in Forfarshire and that of Methven in Perthshire, had been the subjects, one finds, of litigation before the Privy Council. The hereditary patron of the Kirk of Guthrie; being the Laird of Guthrie;, known as Alexander Guthrie; of that Ilk, he had, in virtue of the powers conceded to him by the Act of Regent Moray’s Parliament of 1567, conferred the Provostry, when it became vacant, on his own son, Gabriel Guthrie;, to serve as a bursary for that youth during his education at the University of St. Andrews, and one of the Prebendries at the same time on another of his sons, Andrew Guthrie;, for the same purpose. This clever family arrangement had been contested, but had been upheld by the Council.” 

BOOK: Macpherson, C. James. (1914). Meroure of Wisdome Johannis de Irlandia. Edinburgh: The Darien Press. Digital Repository: HathiTrust.

The manuscript “Meroure of Wysdome” was “compiled at Edinburgh, out of reverence for our savior, the Lord Jesus, and his mother, and for the benefit of the Scottish King, James the Fourth, the Clergy, and all the people, by Master John of Ireland, professor of sacred theology at Paris, Rector of the Forest,” in the year 1490 for the use of James IV of Scotland, who perished at Flodden in 1513, and of his clergy and people.

Although the volume was prepared for the king there are no traces of diligent royal perusal or of royal possession. The “Meroure of Wysdome” was placed in other hands. On various blanks throughout the manuscript the signature of “Alexr. Guthre” is scrawled, and has been determined to be that of Sir Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk, who was an intimate of James IV, and who was slain with his king at Flodden.

Macpherson concludes that if this, the only copy of the volume, was presented to the king, that it was certainly not improbable that he should have made a gift of it to Sir Alexander.

“Near the beginning occurs an entry of several lines, also in the knight’s hand:–

“Ex dono domini alexandri guthre de eodem , militis , insule ecclesie beate mariede Guthre , in eadem pro perpetuo remansuro. Alexander Guthre armiger.”

Translation: “From the gift of Lord Alexander Guthre of the same, knight, in the island of the church of Blessed Mary of Guthre, in the same for perpetuity to remain. Alexander Guthre, squire.”

Macpherson: “That is to say : Sir Alexander Guthrie, Knight, of that Ilk, presented the volume tothe Church of the Blessed Mary of Guthrie (at some date unknown ). 3 Thischurch, situated in the present parish of Guthrie (Forfarshire), has been lavishly endowed by Sir David Guthrie (father of Sir Alexander and quondam LordTreasurer of Scotland), who built the “ South Yle ” mentioned ( insule ) above, and the privileges and benefits he conferred were further augmented by his son. Precisely at what time the “ Meroure ” came to rest in the Church of Guthrie isuncertain : at the latest, it was there before 1513, since a fine clerical hand hasrecorded, on a blank at the end of the volume, the obit of the knight and patronof the Church, who fell at Flodden in that year:–

 “ Obitus Alexandri Guthre de eodem , militis , Alexandri Strathachin de Balmadyapud helium de Brankstoun in Northumberland, nono die mensis Septembrisanno domini j m v c decimo tercio.”

Translation: “Death of Alexander Guthre of the same, knight, Alexander Strathachin of Balmady at the hill of Brankstoun in New Thumberland, on the ninth day of September in the year of our Lord 15th century thirteenth.” Note that the name “Flodden” gradually displaced Brankston, a village near the scene of battle.

National Records of Scotland: GD188/2/9: Marriage Contracts. Records of the Guthrie Family in Angus.
1) 1628, January 21 and 30. Marriage contract between David Collace, brother of John Collace of Balnamone, and Margaret Guthrie, daughter of John, Bishop of Moray.
2) 1631, August 12. Marriage contract between Joseph Brodie, parson of Keythe, and Nicholas Guthrie, daughter of John, Bishop of Murray.

Red Book of Scotland: “Marriage contract 30 Jan 1628″ David Collace, m. Margaret, daughter of Mr John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray, (c/m 21 and 30 January 1628).” Red Books of Scotland, 1600-1939. Database Online. Ancestry.com. This source references National Records of Scotland: GD188/2/9. See above.