Guthrie Family Group 5 – Branch G
HENRY GUTHRIE 1812GA-1855GA and MANERVA LYON
of Newton & Cobb Counties, Georgia, USA

CONTENTS:
Origin Theories
The Family of Henry Guthrie & Manerva Lyon
Historical Highlights
The Guthrie DNA Project
Reading and Resources

No known published works reveal a Guthrie origin story for the family of Henry Guthrie and Manerva Lyon. This couple married in Newton County, Georgia. It is there that our only clues are found, and they do lead to a GFG5 conclusion. This theory does require research.

Property records in Newton County suggest that Henry Guthrie, William Guthrie, and John Guthrie were orphans of Jane Osborn (Ausborn/Osburn/Osburne/Orsburn). Jane’s maiden name is unknown. She was originally married to Gabriel Guthrie (b.1776-86-d.1814), a son of John Guthrie and Anna Smith, and therefore a grandson of William Guthrie and Eleanor Harris Abbott (GFG5-Branch A).

Jane Guthrie married Aron Osborn on 21 Nov 1821 in Warren County, GA. The children of Gabriel Guthrie were of the William’s Military District in Warren County, and drew their lot in the 1821 Land Lottery for section 400, Lot 16, in Henry (later Newton) County. Jane ‘Ausborn’ was listed as a Head of Household in the 1830 census of Newton County, Georgia, the next name listed after the Household of William Guttery.

HENRY GUTHRIE
Parents: Unverified, but potentially Gabriel Guthrie and Jane (MNU later Osborn)
Born: Abt. 1812
Location: Georgia
Married: Manerva Lyon on 25 February 1834 in Newton County, Georgia
Occupation: Shoemaker
Died: 1855
Location: Cobb County, Georgia, USA
Buried: Unknown, presumably in Georgia, USA

MANERVA LYON
Parents: Unverified, but trees list Jesse Lyon and Mary ‘Polly’ Lewis
Born: 1 February 1813
Location: Georgia
Guthrie Children: Yes
Died: 3 May 1896
Location: Blount County, Alabama, USA
Buried: Antitoch Baptist Cemetery in Liberty, Blount County, Alabama, USA

Guthrie Children: 8
Y-DNA Project Participants: YES
Autosomal DNA Participants: NONE

LINKED CHILD PAGES:
1.) George W Guthrie: 1839GA-1910GA m. Elizabeth Abner
2.) Samford Wilburn Guthrie: 1842GA-1927AL m1. Mary Albritton, m2. Nellie Brown/Barnes
3.) Mary Jane Guthrie: 1845GA-1902AL m. Marion Nation
4.) Josephus P Guthrie: 1846GA-1923AL m1. Clara Russell, m2. Josie Street
5.) Benjamin F Guthrie: 1848GA-bef.1860GA
6.) William Franklin Guthrie: 1849GA-1910AL m. Caroline Julia Bailey
7.) Zachariah T Guthrie: abt.1851GA-1912GA m. Susan Alexander
8.) Frances Guthrie: abt.1854GA-aft.1860

1812: BIRTH of HENRY GUTHRIE
Georgia, USA

Henry Guthrie was born about 1812 in Georgia, USA.

As of 12/24, Guthrie Genealogy speculates that Henry’s parents are Gabriel Guthrie and Jane (MNU). Based on estimated DOB, Henry is likely one of the two younger boys in the family. Gabriel Guthrie was on the Tax List for Warren County, Georgia as early as 1805, but the family were living in Baldwin County by the time of his father’s death in late 1814. Henry’s birth location is likely either Warren or Baldwin County.

1813: BIRTH of MANERVA LYON
Georgia, USA on 1 February 1813

Manerva Lyon (frequently listed as Minerva Lyon) was born 1 February 1813 in Georgia to Jesse Lyon and his wife Mary ‘Polly’ Lewis. Census records indicate that her parents were from England.

1814: DEATH of (SPECULATIVE) FATHER – GABRIEL GUTHRIE

Gabriel Guthrie most likely died in December of 1814. At a court held Tuesday, January the 3rd, 1815, “Abner Guthrie appeared in court and was duly qualified as administrator of the Estate of Gabriel Guthrie decd gave bond and security in the sum of $1000. James Aldridge being his security obtained letters, &c.”

1815: PROBATE of the GABRIEL GUTHRIE ESTATE

On 18 Jan 1815, the Georgia Journal published notice of an upcoming sale of all personal property of Gabriel Guthrie, dec’d, at his plantation on Camp Creek. Signed by Abner Guthrie, administrator. The sale occurred on 22 Feb 1815. An inventory and appraisement of the estate was recorded 8 March 1815. A notice in the Georgia Journal on 25 June 1817 notified the public that 202-1/2 acres of land, being lot No. 107, in the first district of Baldwin county, taken the property of Gabriel Guthrie to satisfy an execution in favor of Mathias Liverman.

NOTE: The acreage listed of 202-1/2 acres is the exact amount awarded in the Georgia Land Lotteries in Baldwin County during the 1805 and 1807 drawings. The 1805 Georgia Land Lottery Fortunate Drawers and Grantees included: Beverly Guthery (1), Abner Guthrie (1), Gabriel Guthrie (1), Francis Guthry (1), John Guthry (1), and Robert Guthry (1).

1820: US CENSUS of GEORGIA
Capt. William’s District, Warren County, Georgia, USA

If the theory about Gabriel and Jane is correct, Jane would have been a widow in 1820, but not yet married to Aron Osborn. Jane Guthrie shows up in the 1820 as a head of household.
1F 45 and over, 1M and 1F 26-44, 2M and 1F 10-15, 2M under 10. 3 Engaged in Agriculture.

Jane would likely have been the female of 26-44 years of age. The male of the same age would potentially be her unmarried brother-in-law, Abner Guthrie (see 1830 below).

1821: GEORGIA LAND LOTTERY
Gabriel Guthrie’s children of William’s Military District in Warren Co. was drawn in land lottery for sect. 400, lot 16 in Henry County. (USGenWebArchives)

1830: US CENSUS of GEORGIA
Georgia, USA

Henry Guthrie would be about 18 in 1830, presumably single and living with his parents somewhere in Georgia.

If the theory is correct, he would be living in the household of the widowed Jane Ausborn (Osborn) in Newton County, Georgia. Next door to the household of his presumed older brother, William Guthrie.
Jane’s household includes:
1F 40-49, 1M 20-29, 2M and 2F 15-19, and 1M 5-9.
This household would include Jane, Henry, 2 of his brothers: Simeon and John. The youngest son would likely Jane and Aron’s son.

Also in the 1830 census of Warren County, GA is one other Guthrie household: Abner Guthrie 40-49. He is the only person in the household. Note that Abner Guthrie is a younger brother of Gabriel Guthrie.

1834: MARRIAGE of HENRY GUTHRIE & MANERVA LYON
Newton County, Georgia, USA on 25 February 1834

1839: BIRTH of SON – GEORGE W GUTHRIE
Newton County, Georgia, USA in June of 1839

1840: US CENSUS of GEORGIA
Newton County, Georgia, USA

District 462, Newton County, GA: Henry Gritton (Guttery)
1F 50-59
1M & 1F 20-29
1M 15-19
1M under 5
Total = 5
1 Person in Agriculture
No Slaves Listed.

The female of age 50-59 (1781-1790) is potentially Henry’s mother or mother-in-law. The male of 15-19 is potentially a younger brother age 15-19 (1821-1825). Otherwise, the record fits the family profile for 1M & 1F 20-29 (1811-1820) and 1M under 5 (1835-1840).

1842: BIRTH of SON – SAMFORD WILBURN GUTHRIE
Georgia, USA on 8 May 1842

1845: BIRTH of DAUGHTER – MARY JANE GUTHRIE
Georgia, USA on 24 August 1845

1846: BIRTH of SON – JOSEPHUS P GUTHRIE
Roswell, Cobb, Georgia, USA

1848: BIRTH of SON – BENJAMIN FRANKLIN GUTHRIE
Georgia, USA

1849: BIRTH of SON – WILLIAM FRANKLIN GUTHRIE
Georgia, USA in May 1849

1850: US CENSUS of GEORGIA
Roswell, Cobb, Georgia, USA

The Guthrey Household:
Henry Guthrey 38 M W Shoemaker RE: 150 Georgia
Minerva Guthrey 33 F W Georgia person > 21 cannot read & write
George W Guthrey 10 M W Georgia
Sanford W Guthrey 8 M W Georgia
Mary Jane Guthrey 6 F W Georgia
Josephus Guthrey 4 M W Georgia
Benjamin F Guthrey 2 M W Georgia

1851: BIRTH of SON – ZACHARIAH T GUTHRIE
Georgia, USA

Zachariah T Guthrie was born about 1851. Census data also lists 1854.

1854: BIRTH of DAUGHTER – FRANCES GUTHRIE
Georgia, USA

1855: DEATH of HENRY GUTHRIE
Cobb County, Georgia, USA

1860: CENTRAL REGISTER of CONVICTS
Georgia, USA

George Guthrie, Crime: Larceny from home, Term of Years: 3, When Received: 27 April 1860, Sentence Expires: 27 March 1863, County Where Convicted: Fulton, Occupation: None, Birth Place: Georgia, No. of Sentences: 1, Age: 21, Height: 6’0, Complexion: Fair, Hair: Light, Eyes: Dark.

1860: US CENSUS of GEORGIA
District 1, Cobb, Georgia, USA

The Guthrie Household:
Manerva Guthrie 47 F Farming RE: 300 PE: 75 Georgia, cannot read & write
Geo. Guthrie 20 M Georgia, Convict
Sanford Guthrie 18 M Day Laborer Georgia
Mary J Guthrie 15 F Georgia
Josephus Guthrie 13 M Georgia
William F Guthrie 10 M Georgia
Zachariah Guthrie 9 M Georgia
Frances Guthrie 6 F Georgia

1869: MARRIAGE of SON – GEORGE W GUTHRIE
Georgia, USA

George W Guthrie married Elizabeth Abner about 1869. George was a shoemaker and later became a grocer when they moved to Atlanta.

1869: MARRIAGE of DAUGHTER – MARY JANE GUTHRIE
Blount County, Alabama, USA on 21/26 January 1869

Mary Jane Guthrie married Marion A Nation. They raised their 5 children in Blount County, Alabama: Celia Nation, Lecil M Nation, Edward Lecil Nation, Myrtle Nation, and Ella Madora Nation.

1870: US CENSUS – BLOUNT COUNTY, ALABAMA, USA
East Half, Blount, Alabama

The Guthree Household:
M Guthree – 56 F White, Keeping House, Real Estate: 400, Personal Estate: 105, Born GA, Cannot Write
F Guthree – 24 M White, Farmer, born GA, Male Over 21
Z Guthree – 18 M White, born GA, cannot write

1871: MARRIAGE of SON – JOSEPHUS P GUTHRIE
Marshall County, Alabama, USA

Josephus P Guthrie married Mary Clarissa Russell on 17 Dec 1871. They had 3 children: Bettie Leona Guthrie, Annie Laura Guthrie, and Algie Guthrie. Clara died between 1882 and 1888. Josephus remarried in 1888 to Josephine Street with whom he had daughters Johnnie Guthrie, Pauline Guthrie, Mary E Guthrie, and Thyra Guthrie, and sons Hubert Guthrie and Julius Herman Guthrie.

1873: MARRIAGE of SON – SANFORD WILBURN GUTHRIE
Marshall County, Alabama, USA

Sanford Wilburn Guthrie married Mary E (Albritton) Pedon on 23 February 1873. She was the widow of Samuel Peden and mother of 2 sons: William and John J Peden. They lived in Blount County, Alabama and had 1 daughter and 2 sons: Ida Guthrie, Samuel Edward Guthrie, and Ellis Guthrie. Mary died before 1910 and Sanford remarried to Nellie J Barnes (or Brown).

1874: MARRIAGE of SON – WILLIAM FRANKLIN GUTHRIE
Blount County, Alabama, USA on 22 February 1874

William Franklin Guthrie married Caroline Julia Bailey

1880: US CENSUS of GEORGIA
District 714, Carroll County, Georgia, USA

The Guthrie Household:
George W Guthrie W M 40 married Shoe Maker GA GA GA
Elizabeth Guthrie W F 33 wife married Keeping House GA GA GA
John C Guthrie W M 11 son single at school GA GA GA
Jesse E Guthrie W M 6 son single GA GA GA
George H Guthrie W M 1 son single GA GA GA
Minerva Guthrie W F 65 mother widowed GA ENG ENG

1881: MARRIAGE of SON – ZACHARIAH T GUTHRIE
Heard County, Georgia, USA

Zachariah T Guthrie married Susan L Alexander. They lived in Carroll County, Georgia with their 3 children: Annie Lee Guthrie, Albert Walton Guthrie, and Mary M Guthrie.

1896: DEATH of MANERVA (LYON) GUTHRIE
Blount County, Alabama, USA on 3 May 1896

Manerva was 83 at her death on 3 May 1896. She was buried in Antioch Baptist Cemetery in Liberty, Blount, Alabama, USA.

Guthrie Family Group: GFG5
Group Designation: Branch G – (The Guthries of Newton & Cobb County, Georgia)

Haplogroup: R-M269
Confirmed Haplogroup: R-M269

YDNA Matches:  1
Kit 20261
Henry Guthrie/Manerva Lyon > William Franklin Guthrie/Caroline Julia Bailey (GGP)

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
None

Findings: 

Participant 20261 matches the Y-DNA profile of GFG5. This is a Y37 marker kit. He has 1 unique genetic mutation compared to group mode results, so is 36/37 with the most common values found at any given genetic marker. It is found on a ‘fast moving marker’ which probably indicates recent and/or a random change rather than a sign of an inherited genetic change in the DNA. The volume of tests for the group as a whole does not currently help establish an assessment of pattern markers.

This branch is very underrepresented in the Guthrie DNA Project with both Y-DNA and Autosomal DNA Tests. More clues needed.

Research Locations: 1
Warren County, Georgia – potential previous location of family
Henry County, Georgia – Newton County was formed in 1821 from part of Henry.
Newton County, Georgia (marriage in 1834, 1840 census) – Formed in 1821 from Henry/Jasper/Walton
Cobb County, Georgia (1850 census – Henry’s death in 1855) – Formed 1832 from Cherokee County
Carroll County, Georgia (Manerva in 1880 census) – Formed 1826 from Cherokee/Creek Territory
Blount County, Alabama (Manerva’s death in 1896) – Formed in 1818 from Creek Nation Territory

DOCUMENTS: Deeds and Mortgages, 1777-1920; General Index to Deeds and Mortgages, 1777-1958
Direct Index to Deeds and Mortgages, 1777-1911, Liberty County, Georgia – FHL Film 008188877
Letter G Index begins IMG 206 of 617
No Guthrie Entries Found

Reverse Index to Deeds and Mortgages, 1777-1911, Liberty County, Georgia – FHL Film 008188878
Letter G Index begins IMG 385 of 587
No Guthrie Entries Found

DOCUMENTS: Indexes of Grantees to Headlight Grants, 1755-1862, Liberty County, Georgia
FHL Film 008628091
No Guthrie Entries Found

WEBSITE: 1805 Georgia Land Lottery – Fortunate Drawers and Grantees
Letter G Results Include: Beverly Guthery (1), Abner Guthrie (1), Gabriel Guthrie (1), Francis Guthry (1), John Guthry (1), and Robert Guthry (1). (Paul K. Graham, genealogist)

DOCUMENTS: Land Lottery Grants, 1821-1844 – Henry County, Georgia – Surveyor General
Districts 1-6 – Film 008193517 (Online Access Locked)
Districts 7-11 – Film 008622972 (Online Access Locked)
Districts 11-17 – Film 008622973 (Online Access Locked)

WEBSITE: 1821 Lottery (Georgia Land Lottery)
Note that this site does not include the list of Henry County Lottery Winners. It does include other info of interest about the 1821 lottery.
ACT OF MAY 15, 1821.
RECAP OF ACT OF MAY 15, 1821  
Authority: Act of May 15, 1821
Year of Drawing: 1821
Counties
Dooly: 16 districts (1-16) 
Fayette: 4 districts ( 6,7,9,14)
Henry: 18 districts (1-18)
Houston: 16 districts (1-16)
Monroe: 15 districts (1-15)
Size of Land Lots
Dooly: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square) 
Fayette: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square) 
Henry: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square) 
Houston: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square) 
Monroe: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square) 
Grant Fee
$19.00 per Land Lot 
Persons Entitled to Draw
Bachelor, 18 years or older, 3 year residence in Georgia, 3 year citizen United States – 1 draw 
Married man with wife and/or minor son under 18 and/or unmarried daughter, 3 year residence in Georgia, 3 year citizen United States – 2 draws 
Widow, 3 year residence in Georgia – 1 draw 
Family of minor orphans, father dead, 3 year residence in Georgia – 1 draw 
Family (3 or more) of minor orphans, father and mother dead – 2 draws 
Family (one or two) of minor orphans, father and mother dead – 1 draw 
Widow, husband killed or died in Revolutionary War, War of 1812 or Indian Wars 3 year residence in Georgia – 2 draws 
Orphan, father killed or died in Revolutionary War, War of 1812 or Indian Wars – 2 draws
Child or family of children of a convict, 3 year residence in Georgia – 1 draw 
Persons Excluded 
Any fortunate drawer in any previous Land Lottery. 
How do I find the names of the winners or more information on the lottery?
The Third and Fourth or 1820 and 1821 Land Lotteries of Georgia. Easley, SC: Georgia Genealogical Reprints/Southern Historical Press, 1973. Alphabetical listing of fortunate drawers. 
The Fourth or 1821 Land Lottery of Georgia. Rev. Silas Emmett Lucas, Comp. Easley, SC: Southern Historical Press, 1986. Alphabetical listing of fortunate drawers. 
“Chapter 5. The 1821 Land Lottery” in Cadle, Farris. Georgia Land Surveying and Law. Athens, Ga.: University of Georgia Press, 1991. pp. 234-241. Historical information regarding this land lottery.

WEBSITE: The 1821 Georgia Land Lottery: Liberty County Fortunates
Listed as a “Liberty County Fortunate” (lottery winner) is William Guthry – Henry County: Lot 30, Section 9, Bradwells District.

The site includes the following data:
“The method of distributing Georgia’s newly acquired territories by lottery was unique to Georgia, and not used by any other state. After the Lottery was authorized by an act of the state legislature, the citizens of Georgia could register in their respective counties of residence, if they were eligible under certain qualifications noted below this list. Their names taken in their counties of residence, and the lot and district numbers submitted by the surveyors, were all sent to the state capitol at Milledgeville. Then the commissioners who were appointed by the Governor drew the names and numbers from two separate wheels or drums. Afterwards, the fortunate drawer (simply known as the fortunate) would take out a grant to the lot he drew, paying the grant fee specified by law. If he did not take out a grant, the lot reverted back to the state. There were no requirements for cultivation or residence of any lot drawn and granted in the state lotteries.”

BOOK: Moss, Kathleen. (1991) Henry County Georgia Land Records 1821-1828 Deed Books A and B
p.133 – Deed Book B, p.177 – Robert Guthry is a witness to a deed. Silas Stare of Newton County sold to James Haygood. Rec. 13 Dec 1826.

DOCUMENT: 1830 US Census of Newton County Georgia
William Guttery Household
1M 20-29, 1F 15-19, 1F 10-14, 1M under 5.
This is the only Guthrie/variant household in Newton County in 1830.

Next door is the household of Jane Ausborn.
1F 40-49, 1M 20-29, 2M and 2F 15-19, 1M 5-9.

DOCUMENTS: Deeds and Mortgages, 1822-1902; Index to Deeds and Mortgages, 1821-1904. Georgia Superior Court (Newton County).
Film 007894553 – Index to Deeds and Mortgages, v. A-B 1821-1887
Letter G Index begins IMG 79 of 487

1822 – Wm Guthry (grantor) to Edward Kent – Book A – Page 76 – Film 008192597 – IMG 78/728
12 June 1882. William Guthrie of Chatham County, GA and Edward Kent of Jackson County GA, Sim $100 hand paid, Lot 304 (or 305)
202.5 acres drawn to William Guthrie’s name in the Land Lottery in Henry County now Newton County, GA
1831 – William Guthry (grantor) to Samuel Caitlin – Book D – Page 27 – Film 008192598 – IMG 298/656
2 March 1831: Sum $150, 1/4 part of a tract of land drawn in orphans of Jane Osburn originally Henry County now Newton County
1832 – John Gutrey (grantor) to Samuel Caitlin – Book D – Page 211 – Film 008192598 – IMG 390/656
1/4 part of a tract drawn by the orphans of Jane Osburn originally Henry County now Newton County
1833 – Henry Guthrey (grantor) to Jesse L Baker – Book D – Page 645 – Film 008192598 – IMG 608/656
50.5 acres being 1/4 part of the lot 400 in the 16th district formerly Henry now Newton County
1837 – Henry Guthrey (grantee) from Sarah Bearden – Book F – Page 692 – Film 008192600 IMG 387/486
Sum $300 in hand paid, 65 acres of land in 16th District of originally Henry now Newton County
1840 – Henry Guthrey (grantor) to Robert H Farmer – Book I – Page 286 – Film 008275432 – IMG 501/674
109 acres in 16th District originally Henry now Newton County
1862 – R. C. Guthrey (grantor) to John W Swords – Book O – Page 50 – Film 008539565 – IMG 34/381
RC Guthrey of Walton County, $925, tract originally in Walton now Newton County

WEBSITE: Cobb County, Georgia Genealogy
During the American Civil War, many courthouse records were destroyed.

DOCUMENTS: Deeds and Mortgages, 1831-1901, with grantor and grantee index

DOCUMENTS: Estate Index – Carroll County, Georgia, USA
Guthrie, F. L. 1908
Guthrie, Mrs. J. E. 1949
Guthrie, Z. T. 1946

DOCUMENTS: Estate Records 1800-1950 Griffin, RL – Hamrick, JD – FHL 007701748

Guthrie, F. L. 1908 – IMG 393 of 1319
Estate of F. L Guthrie. Mrs. M. O. Guthrie,

Guthrie, Mrs. J. E. 1949 – IMG 398 of 1319
Estate of J. E. Guthrie, Mrs J E Guthrie, temp admx.

Guthrie, Z. T. 1946 – IMG 404 of 1319
Estate of Z. T. Guthrie, dec’d. A.W. Guthrie, admr.