UNGROUPED GUTHRIE FAMILIES

Definition of “Ungrouped Family Status” :
Guthrie families without historical, documented, or genetic proof of a lineal relationship to an established Guthrie Family Group. Y-DNA testing by Guthrie men is needed to conclusively prove paternal line ancestry.

MARGARET GUTHRIE / Lady – of Lunan
Born 1490s-1510s in Scotland
Died in Scotland
Spouse: Sir Robert Carnegie
Children: 16
John (1527), Robert (1528), Jean (1530), James (1532), Helen (1533), Elizabeth (1534), Hercules (1535), George (1536), John (1538), David (1540), William (1542), Isobel (1544), Mary (1648), Christian (1548), Margaret (1550), Katherine (1552)

Additional Notes/Background/Historical Context: Lady Margaret Guthrie’s presumed affiliation with the Guthrie clan of Lunan places her within the intricate web of 16th-century Scottish nobility, where alliances through marriage bolstered territorial claims and political influence amid the turbulent Reformation era. Lunan, in Angus near Montrose, was tied to the ancient Guthrie barony, granted in the 1460s to the Guthries as royal foresters, evolving into a seat of minor lairds involved in feudal disputes and clan feuds, such as those with the neighboring Lindsays or Crawfords. Born in the late 15th or early 16th century, Margaret’s life spanned the Renaissance influx into Scotland via James IV’s court (1488–1513), promoting arts and alliances, but also the Flodden disaster (1513), which decimated nobility and reshaped power dynamics. Her marriage to Sir Robert Carnegie, a diplomat and judge from Kinnaird (near Brechin), exemplifies strategic unions; Carnegies rose through royal service, with Robert as ambassador to England and France, navigating Henry VIII’s “Rough Wooing” (1540s) invasions aiming to unite crowns.

The listed 16 children, though undocumented in primary sources, reflect high fertility rates in noble families to secure heirs amid 50% infant mortality from plagues (e.g., 1540s outbreaks) or warfare. Naming patterns—repeating John, biblical influences—highlight cultural norms, with Hercules evoking classical revival. Post-1550s, Scotland’s Protestant Reformation (1560) under Knox divided families; Guthries leaned Presbyterian, while Carnegies had Catholic ties, potentially straining allegiances during Mary Queen of Scots’ reign (1542–1567). Edge cases: Lack of source data suggests romanticized genealogies from 19th-century clan histories (e.g., Burke’s Peerage), prone to errors; ungrouped status due to maternal lines or disputed paternity in large broods.

Related considerations: Lunan’s coastal location fostered smuggling or fishing economies, blending with feudal agriculture, while Reformation iconoclasm destroyed records, complicating verifications.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 296149
Lady Margaret Guthrie of Lunan/Sir Robert Carnegie > No Further Lineage Info Provided
Kit 297452
Lady Margaret Guthrie of Lunan/Sir Robert Carnegie > No Further Lineage Info Provided // ALSO: Helen Guthrie/Robert Mackemie
Kit 395768
Lady Margaret Guthrie of Lunan/Sir Robert Carnegie > No Further Lineage Info Provided // ALSO: Helen Guthrie/Robert Mackemie
Kit 440632
Lady Margaret Guthrie of Lunan/Sir Robert Carnegie > No Further Lineage Info Provided
Kit B1103
Lady Margaret Guthrie of Lunan/Sir Robert Carnegie > No Further Lineage Info Provided

Note: No original source data found for the children of Margaret Guthrie & Robert Carnegie.

MARGARET GUTHRIE – of Londonderry, Ireland / Pennsylvania
Born 1716 Londonderry, Northern Ireland – Died 1787 Pennsylvania, USA
Spouse: Abraham Fulton (1712-1834) m. 1745 County Derry, N.Ireland
Children: 7
James (1747), Mary (1750), Abraham (1750), Robert (1751), Margaret Guthrie (1755), Henry (1757), Joseph (1759)

Additional Notes/Historical/Context/Background: Margaret Guthrie’s Ulster roots and transatlantic migration embody the Scotch-Irish Presbyterian diaspora, driven by economic pressures and religious discrimination in 18th-century Ireland. Born in Londonderry amid the post-1690 Williamite settlement, where Scottish planters dominated, her ties to Exorna/Dunboe parishes suggest descent from Lowland Scots Guthries transplanted during the 1609 Ulster Plantation, aimed at pacifying Catholic Ireland but fostering tenant hardships like rack-renting and linen slumps (1720s–1740s). The 1745 marriage to Abraham Fulton in County Derry occurred during the Jacobite Rising (1745–1746), with Ulster’s divided loyalties—Presbyterians often anti-Stuart—potentially disrupting lives via troop movements or famines (1740 “Year of Slaughter”). Emigration to Pennsylvania (likely 1750s), a Quaker haven attracting Ulster Dissenters via Philadelphia ports, aligned with waves fleeing penal laws barring non-Anglicans from offices or leases. Settlement in frontier counties like Lancaster or Cumberland involved subsistence farming, with risks from Native American conflicts (e.g., French and Indian War 1754–1763).

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 541487
Guthries of Exorna/Dunboe > Margaret Guthrie/Abraham Fulton > Abraham Fulton/Jane Coe > Henry ‘Harry’ Fulton/Rebecca Jack > Abram Fulton/Rachel Newlon > Clara Belle Fulton/William Harrison Neal > Nellie Violet Newlon Neal/Harold Clay Briceland (GGP)
Kit B177665
Guthries of Exorna/Dunboe > Margaret Guthrie/Abraham Fulton > Mary ‘Polly’ Fulton/John Boyd > Phineas Boyd/Mary Vanhoy > William Johnson Boyd/Delilah Malone > Elizabeth Boyd /William L Lamb > Asa Green Lamb/Georgia Anne Roberts (GGP)
[[Note: Clan Boyd Historical Committee member informed us that Phineas Boyd is not a son of John Boyd and Mary ‘Polly’ Fulton, which would indicate no direct Guthrie ancestry via Mary. Kit B177665 does have Guthrie matches, so there may be another route for relatedness, or these matches could be coincidental to the Guthrie surname.]]

Notes: Based on the Londonderry location it is likely that Margaret Guthrie descends from either GFG2A or GFG6. Major matches for Kit 541487 are to GFG2A and GFG5.

MARGARET GUTHRIE – of Aberdeen, Scotland
Born about 1760 in Scotland
Died after 1784 in Scotland
Partner: Robert Murray (Unmarried)
Children: 1
John (1783)

Additional Notes/Historical/Context/Background: Margaret Guthrie’s life in late 18th-century Aberdeen reflects the city’s Enlightenment flourishing as a granite-built port hub, blending fishing, shipbuilding, and textile trades amid Scotland’s agricultural revolutions. Born around the Seven Years’ War (1756–1763), which boosted Aberdeen’s herring exports but strained resources, her unmarried partnership with Robert Murray highlights common-law unions in working-class communities, where illegitimacy rates hovered at 10–20% due to delayed marriages from economic barriers like apprenticeships or poor relief stigmas. The single child John (1783) coincides with American Revolution’s end, with ripple effects on trade (e.g., tobacco imports via Virginia links). Aberdeen’s Old and New Towns divided socially—Old for academics (Marischal College), New for merchants—suggest Margaret’s possible weaver or servant role in flax/linen booms pre-mechanization (1790s).

Post-1784 survival implies navigating Jacobite aftermaths (1745 suppressed) and clearances precursors, with Guthries as minor burgh families. Edge cases: Unmarried status risked kirk sessions’ censure, leading to fines or public penance; ungrouped due to local Guthrie variants from Angus migrations. Nuances: Murray/Brackenridge ties suggest Highland-Lowland blends. Implications: Parish records (Old Parochial Registers) for bastardy bonds; consider women’s limited rights pre-1834 Poor Law reforms. Related: Aberdeen’s “Granite City” moniker from 1790s quarrying, influencing urban growth and emigrations.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 531730
Margaret Guthrie/Robert Murray > John Murray/Margaret Brackenridge > Margaret Murray /Andrew West (GGP)

MARGARET GUTHRIE / GUTHERY – of England & Iowa, USA
Born about 1800 in England
Died on 27 July 1838 in Palestine, Story County, Iowa, USA
Spouse: William Stafford (1800-1872) m. before 1838 in Pennsylvania
Children: 1 Known
Otis Socrates (1838)

Additional Notes/Historical/Context/Background: Margaret Guthery’s English origins and Midwestern migration capture early 19th-century British emigration waves, spurred by post-Napoleonic slumps (1815) and enclosure acts displacing rural laborers from counties like Staffordshire or Lancashire, where Guthries had Anglo-Scottish roots. Born amid Industrial Revolution’s onset, her move to Pennsylvania (pre-1838 marriage) likely via Liverpool ships to Philadelphia, attracted by iron/coal jobs or Quaker networks. Relocation to Iowa Territory (1838 statehood push) aligned with Black Hawk War’s aftermath (1832), opening prairies for squatters via Louisiana Purchase lands. Palestine, in Story County, was a pioneer outpost with log cabins and subsistence farming, facing malaria and Native tensions (Meskwaki/Sauk). Death in 1838 (possibly childbirth with Otis) underscores frontier mortality, with women dying at 30–40 from infections sans medical care.

Single known child reflects small families or lost records amid mobility. Edge cases: Variant “Guthery” suggests phonetic Americanizations; ungrouped due to skewed DNA to GFG2A (Ulster-Scots), implying misattributed paternity or convergence. Nuances: Strong GFG2A matches (37%) highlight shared migrations, with own-line ties suggesting endogamy. Implications: Land warrants (1830s acts) for settlement paths; explore Mormon trails (nearby Nauvoo) for cultural overlaps. Related: Iowa’s 1846 constitution debates slavery, influencing abolitionist settlers.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit (KL-Ancestry)
Mary Guthery/William Stafford > Otis Socrates Stafford/Mary Ann Hornsby (GGF)
Kit (TS-Ancestry)
Mary Guthery/William Stafford > Otis Socrates Stafford/Mary Ann Hornsby (GGF)

Notes: Kit Analysis for KL-Ancestry shows 217 Guthrie matches with 113 to established Guthrie Family Groups. This kit skews toward GFG2A. 42 of the 113 (37%) were to descendants of GFG2A and an additional 9 to her own line. Genetic matches to all but 3 of the 13 GFG2A branches.

MARGARET GUTHRIE – of Ireland & Ontario, Canada
Born about 1826 in Ireland
Died on 25 January 1904 in Simcoe, Ontario, Canada
Spouse: Thomas Ovens (1824-1887) m. about 1847
Children: 8
William John (1848), Eliza Jean (1850), Thomas (1851), Mary Ann (1853), Margret Maria (1856), Henry Edward (1859), Charlotte Amelia (1863), George Alfred (1865)

Additional Notes/Historical Context/Background: Margaret Guthrie’s Irish birth and Canadian settlement illustrate pre-Famine Ulster emigrations, where economic woes like linen crises (1820s) and tithes pushed Protestants to British North America. Likely from Ulster (given Guthrie prevalence), her 1847 marriage amid Great Famine (1845–1852) may have hastened departure, with 1 million deaths and emigrations. Arrival in Ontario’s Simcoe County (Norfolk area) via Quebec ports tapped into lumber/wheat booms under Canada Company schemes (1826), attracting Irish for canal work (Welland 1829) or farms. Large family (8 children) aided pioneer labor, but high mortality from cholera (1854) or winters threatened. Death in 1904 spanned Confederation (1867), bringing railways (Grand Trunk 1850s) boosting markets but displacing natives (e.g., Ojibwa treaties 1850s).

Edge cases: Unspecified Irish county limits precision; ungrouped as female line. Nuances: Ovens/McAllister suggest English/Scots blends. Implications: Census (1851–1901) track assimilation; Orange Lodge involvement common for Irish Protestants. Related: Simcoe’s tobacco shift (1880s) diversified economies.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 260182
Margaret Guthrie/Thomas Ovens > William John Ovens/Sarah McAllister (GGP)

MARGARET ANN GUTHRIE – of England & Ontario, Canada
Born about 1804 in England
Died on 27 November 1885 in Smith, Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
Spouse: Henry Edmison
Children: 5
Alexander (1821), Israel Black (1825), Henry (1836), Sarah (1840), John (1841)

Additional Notes/Historical Context/Background: Margaret Ann Guthrie’s English-to-Canadian path mirrors post-1815 emigrations from rural England, hit by Corn Laws (1815) inflating bread prices and enclosure evictions. Possible Yorkshire or Lancashire origins, where Guthries had industrial ties. Marriage to Henry Edmison (pre-1821) likely in Canada, settling in Peterborough’s Smith Township amid lumber era (1820s), with Irish Canal (1830s) drawing laborers. Children spanning 1821–1841 reflect frontier growth, but gaps suggest losses to typhus (1832). Death in 1885 post-Confederation saw railroads (Canadian Pacific 1881) transforming isolation. Edge cases: Broad birth est.; ungrouped maternal. Nuances: Edmison/Brown imply Scots-Irish networks. Implications: Land petitions for grants; Methodist revivals influenced families. Related: Peterborough’s “Electric City” hydro (1910s) built on lumber foundations.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit B5817
Margaret Ann Guthrie/Henry Edmison > Henry Edmison/Rebecca Brown > William Henry Edmison/Susan Jephson > Fredrick Clarence Edmison/Emma Elizabeth Gillespie (GGP)

MARIAH WILLIAMSON GUTHRIE – of Indiana & Arkansas
Born about 1814 in Indiana, USA
Died after 1870 in either Kansas or Arkansas
Spouse: George Robinson Reed (1814-1866) m. in Benton County, AR
Children: 7
Mary Elizabeth Guthrie/Reed (1846), Thomas H Guthrie/Reed (1846), John Wheeler Reed (1853), Amanda J Reed (1855), Ambrose King Reed (1856), Charity E Reed (1859), George W Reed (1861)

Additional Notes/Historical Context/Background: Mariah Williamson Guthrie’s Midwestern-Southern arc highlights early U.S. internal frontiers, born in Indiana Territory amid War of 1812 (1812–1815) settler-Native clashes (e.g., Tecumseh’s confederacy). Move to Arkansas (1836 statehood) for Benton County’s Ozark farms, post-Trail of Tears (1838). First “marriage” to unknown Guthrie (pre-1846 twins) suggests informal unions or widowhood, common in transients. Reed marriage amid Mexican War (1846–1848), with children blending surnames reflecting stepfamily norms. Husband’s 1866 death post-Civil War (Arkansas Confederate), amid Reconstruction violence (Klan 1868). Survival past 1870 implies Kansas/Arkansas mobility for land rushes. Edge cases: Name debate questions paternity; ungrouped due to hybrid ancestry. Nuances: Griffin ties suggest Southern expansions. Implications: Census for name changes; Bleeding Kansas (1850s) context. Related: Arkansas’ diamond rush (1906) on earlier farms.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 120270
Mariah Williamson Guthrie > Mary Elizabeth Guthrie or Reed/John L Griffin (GGP)
Kit 205672
Mariah Williamson Guthrie > Mary Elizabeth Guthrie or Reed/John L Griffin (GGP)

Note: This family of participants for this line believed their ancestor Mariah was a Guthrie with the middle given name of Williamson. Online trees list her as Mariah Williamson who was first married to an Unknown Guthrie. It appears that they had 2 children: Thomas H Guthrie & Mary Elizabeth Guthrie, both later listed as Reed children after Mariah’s marriage to George Reed. If this is the case, Mariah herself has no Guthrie ancestry, but her eldest 2 children would.

MARTHA ‘PATSY’ GUTHRIE – of Orange, VA & Lincoln, NC
Born about 1772 in Orange County, Virginia, reportedly
Died after 1860 presumably in Lincoln County, North Carolina, USA
Spouse: Thomas Lowe (1759-1829) m. in North Carolina
Children: 10
Catherine (1789), Isaac (1798), Elizabeth (1800), Greenbury (1807), Alexander (1809), James Washington (1810), Thomas (1812), Caroline (1814), Frances M (1816), Rufus (1822)

Additional Notes/Historical Context/Background: Martha “Patsy” Guthrie’s Virginia-to-North Carolina shift exemplifies post-Revolutionary Southern migrations for fertile lands, born in Orange County amid pre-Independence tensions (e.g., 1774 Lord Dunmore’s War). Move to Lincoln County (upcountry) for cotton/tobacco, post-1789 marriage. Husband’s 1829 death left her managing amid Panic of 1819. Large family with gaps (Catherine 1789 to Isaac 1798) suggests losses or prior union. Survival past 1860 spanned Civil War eve. Edge cases: Inter-Guthrie marriage hints consanguinity; ungrouped due to potential ties. Nuances: Lowe/Childs imply westward. Implications: Deeds for inheritances; upcountry Unionism. Related: Lincoln’s iron forges (1800s).

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 168695
Martha Patsy Guthrie /Thomas Lowe > John Franklin Lowe > Marcus Wilburn Lowe Sr >Marcus Wilburn Lowe Jr > Wilburn Montrose Lowe Sr > Wilburn Montrose Lowe Jr/Esther Beatrice Childs (P)

Note: I am not certain about Catherine Lowe being Patsy’s daughter. There is a 9 year gap between Catherine’s birth and the second child Isaac in 1798. Either Catherine is the product of a previous marriage or her DOB may be off. Also note that Catherine Lowe married Nelson Guthrie of GFG8A. These families may be interrelated…. or not.

MARY GUTHRIE / GUTTERY – of Virginia
Born 1720s-1730s in VA, presumably – Died after 1760 in NC, presumably
Spouse: Granville Gray Haggard (1728VA-1765NC) m. about 1752
Children: 6
Samuel (1753), John (1754), Elizabeth (1755), Henry C (1759), William (1760), James (1760)

Additional Notes/Historical Context/Background: Mary Guttery’s colonial life bridges Virginia’s Tidewater to North Carolina frontiers, born amid tobacco boom but slave codes (1723). Marriage to Haggard (1752) post-French and Indian War precursors. Move to NC for lands, husband death 1765 amid Regulator Movement (1765–1771). Twins (1760) reflect risks. Edge cases: Disputed parentage; ungrouped maternal. Nuances: Haggard/His ties Baptist expansions. Implications: Wills for estates; Regulator ties to Revolution. Related: Backcountry Scotch-Irish influx.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 181291
Mary Guttery/Granville Haggard > Samuel Haggard/Nancy His > John Samuel Haggard/Anna His > Samuel M Haggard/Catherine Light > Edward B Haggard/Docia Belle Sneed (GGP)
Kit 338176
Mary Guttery/Granville Haggard > No Further Lineage Info Provided

Note: Many online trees link Mary Guthrie as the daughter of William Guthrie and Frances Wilbourn of Middlesex County, VA. They did have a daughter Mary born 3 April 1730, but her death is recorded 5 May 1730.

MARY GUTHRIE – of Scotland & Pennsylvania
Born about 1744 in Scotland – Died about 1782 presumably in Pennsylvania
Spouse: William Wand Slone m. about 1762 possibly in Pennsylvania
Children: 3 Known
William Wand (1763), John (1770), George W (1774)

Additional Notes/Historical Context/Background: Mary Guthrie’s Scottish birth and Pennsylvania settlement capture mid-18th-century emigrations from Lowlands amid clearances (1740s). Marriage 1762 in Chester County, Quaker area with Scots-Presbyterian enclaves. Children during Revolution (1775–1783), with death ~1782 amid war hardships. Edge cases: Wand variant; ungrouped. Nuances: Slone/Prickett Quaker links. Implications: Tax lists for loyalties. Related: Chester’s ironworks.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 110355
Mary Guthrie/William Wand Slone > William Wand Slone/Elizabeth A Prickett > William Wand Slone/Rachel Langworthy Mann > William Wand Slone/Jane Harris Thompson > Felix George Slone/Mary Ellen Badgley > Alpha Theresa Slone/Andrew Nelson Short (GGP)
Kit 134478
Mary Guthrie/William Wand Slone > George W Slone/Mary Story > William Slone/Deborah Stansberry > Maria Eliza Slone/John Beachman > Cora Belle Beachman/Joseph M Simms (GGP)
Kit 397522
Mary Guthrie/William Wand Slone > George W Slone/Mary Elizabeth Story > Maria Slone/James M Laymon > George Laymon/Martha Bryant > Alice Laymon/Calvin True (GGP)

Notes: Son William was born in Chester County, Pennsylvania

MARY GUTHRIE – of County Down Ireland / Ontario Canada
Possible Parents: Thomas Guthrie & Jane Henry
Born: 22 Mar 1799 Dromore Parish, County Down, Ireland
Died: 21 Oct 1875 Cartwright, Northumberland & Durham, Ontario, Canada
Spouse: James Ginn
Children: 10
Lancelot (1812), Jane (1815), William (1816), Edward (1822), Susan (1825), John (1829), Leticia (1833), Mary Ann (1834), James (1836), Isabelle (1840)

Additional Notes/Historical Context/Background: Mary Guthrie’s County Down origins and Ontario migration reflect Ulster Anglican shifts amid 19th-century agrarian unrest. Dromore’s linen economy, theorized parents’ ties. Marriage pre-1812, immigration pre-1852 during Famine exodus. Cartwright settlement in wheat belt. Religious mix highlights denominational fluidity. Edge cases: Theory unproven; ungrouped. Nuances: Ginn/Devitt farming. Implications: Immigration lists. Related: Durham’s railroads (1850s).

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit B5484
Thomas Guthrie/Jane Henry (Theory) > Mary Guthrie/James Ginn > Mary Ann Ginn/Wright Devitt > Isabella Devitt/George Reynolds (GGP)

Notes: Thomas & Jane (Henry) Guthrie are theorized to be the parents of Mary Guthrie, along with her sisters Elizabeth Jane, Isabella, and Alice. Mary Guthrie married James Ginn in Ireland. All of their children were born there. They immigrated to Canada West (Ontario) prior to 1852 and settled in Cartwright, Durham. Mary was noted to be Church of England, while her youngest son James was a Wesleyan Methodist.

MARY JANE GUTHRIE – of Ontario, Canada & Michigan, USA
Parent possibly John Guthrie b.Ireland d.Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
Born on 9 June 1827 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Died on 17 December 1890 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
Spouse: Martin Lamb (1819-1871) m. about 1843, probably in Michigan
Children: 7
John (1844), Henry C (1847), Nathaniel (1850), George Guthrie (1852), Martin (1854), Robert (1856), Benjamin (1859)

Additional Notes/Historical Context/Background: Mary Jane Guthrie’s Toronto birth and Detroit life span Upper Canada rebellions (1837) to U.S. industrialization. Possible Irish father ties to Famine immigrants. Marriage 1843 in Michigan amid lumber booms. Husband death 1871 post-Civil War. Edge cases: Parent theory; ungrouped. Nuances: Lamb/Jones urban. Implications: Border records. Related: Detroit’s auto prelude.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 176633
John Guthrie (Theory) > Mary Jane Guthrie/Martin Lamb > Henry C Lamb/Martha Orilla Jones > Ella Laura Lamb/Thomas Henry Gehrken (GGP)
Kit 226242
John Guthrie (Theory) > Mary Jane Guthrie/Martin Lamb > Henry C Lamb/Martha Orilla Jones > Ella Laura Lamb/Thomas Henry Gehrken (GGP)

MARY JANE GUTHRIE – of King and Queen County, Virginia, USA
Born about 1828 in King and Queen County, Virginia, USA
Died before 1857 in King and Queen County, Virginia, USA
Spouse: William A Colley (1818-1869)
Children: 1
James Pendleton (1848)

Additional Notes/Historical Context/Background: Mary Jane Guthrie’s Tidewater Virginia life amid slavery’s peak, King and Queen tobacco farms. Marriage pre-1848, death pre-1857 from disease. Single child reflects risks. Edge cases: Short life; ungrouped. Nuances: Colley/Carlton local. Implications: Probate records. Related: Civil War devastation.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 74987
Mary Jane Guthrie/William A Colley > James Pendleton Collie/Mary Jane Carlton > Elizabeth Collie /Thomas Leonard Sykes (GGP)

MICHAEL GUTHRIE – of Ireland & Wilmington, New Castle, Delaware
Born about 1815 in Ireland
Died between 1850-1860 presumably in Wilmington, New Castle, Delaware
Spouse: Mary (MNU) (1811-1866) m. before 1835 in Ireland
Children: 3
Bridget (1832), Mary (1835), Catherine (1838)

Additional Notes/Historical Context/Background: Michael Guthrie’s Irish birth and Delaware immigration pre-Famine, Wilmington’s mills attracting laborers. Marriage pre-1835, death 1850s from industrial ills. Daughters’ births span Atlantic crossing. Edge cases: MNU spouse; ungrouped. Nuances: Doran/Hibbard Irish-American. Implications: Naturalization papers. Related: DuPont factories.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 539043
Michael Guthrie/Mary MNU > Bridget Guthrie/William Doran > Rose Anne Doran/Howard Horatio Hibbard (GGP)

MINERVA GUTHRIE – of Connecticut or Ohio, and Illinois, USA
Born about 1798 in either Connecticut or Ohio
Died after 1833 presumably in Illinois, USA
Spouse: Lehman Castle
Children: 1 Known
Jane Elizabeth (1833)

Additional Notes/Historical Context/Background: Minerva Guthrie’s uncertain birthplace reflects Northwest Territory expansions, Connecticut or Ohio amid 1803 statehood. Marriage to Castle, move to Illinois for prairies. Death post-1833 amid Black Hawk War. Single child. Edge cases: Dual origins; ungrouped. Nuances: Castle/Pilcher pioneer. Implications: Land claims. Related: Mormon migrations.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 539224
Minerva Guthrie/Lehman Castle > Jane Elizabeth Castle/William Pilcher > Minerva C Pilcher/John Sawins (GGP)

NATHANIEL GUTHRIE – of Amherst, Virginia & Madison, Kentucky
Born on 23 December 1763 in Amherst, Virginia, USA
Died on 12 January 1846 in Madison County, Kentucky, USA
Spouse: Nancy Johns m. 7 February 1790 in Amherst County, Virginia, USA
Children: 11
Sophia (1792), Permelia (1793), Elizabeth (1795), Cinthia (1795), Polly (1798), Nancy (1799), Judy (1802), Fanny (1803), Minerva (1804), William (1804), Mahala (1807)

Additional Notes/Historical Context/Background: Nathaniel Guthrie’s Revolutionary-era birth in Amherst, service potential. Marriage 1790 post-Constitution. Move to Kentucky for Boone’s Trace lands. Large family with twins. Death 1846 amid Mexican War. Edge cases: Veteran status; ungrouped. Nuances: Johns/Bird Baptist. Implications: Pension apps. Related: Kentucky’s slavery debates.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 319166
Nathaniel Guthrie/Nancy Johns > Permelia Guthrie/John Bird > Nathaniel Harrison Bird/Sally Ann Boatright > Martha Elizabeth Bird/Abraham Wilholt > Everitt Wilholt/Jennie Ethel Bishop (GGP).

Is This Your Piece of the Puzzle?

If one of these ungrouped Guthrie lineages aligns with your family history—through names, locations, timelines, or documented connections—it could be the key to unlocking your place in the broader Guthrie genealogy puzzle. Many of these families remain ungrouped due to gaps in historical records, non-paternal events (NPEs), or limited DNA participation, but your involvement could change that. By contributing DNA data, you not only confirm your own ancestry but also help connect branches, resolve mysteries, and strengthen the overall project for fellow researchers.

How You Can Help Connect the Dots:

• Y-DNA Testing (for Male Guthries): If you are a direct male descendant (carrying the Guthrie surname or a variant through patrilineal descent), consider Y-DNA testing at FamilyTreeDNA (37 markers or higher recommended, or upgrade to Big Y-700 for advanced haplogroup insights). This is especially valuable for ungrouped lineages with potential mismatches (e.g., NPEs indicated by haplogroups like R-M269 or unexpected surname matches). Matching with established Guthrie Family Groups (GFGs) could group your line and reveal deeper origins, such as Scotch-Irish migrations or specific clan branches. Share your kit with the Guthrie DNA Project for expert analysis and comparisons.
• Autosomal DNA Testing (for Everyone): Upload or test at AncestryDNA, 23andMe, MyHeritage, or FamilyTreeDNA’s Family Finder. Autosomal tests excel at confirming recent connections (up to 5–6 generations) and identifying shared segments with other Guthries. Even if you’re female or from a maternal line, your results can link to documented descendants, supporting theories like those in GFG1A or GFG2A branches. Transfer your raw data to GEDmatch or LivingDNA for broader matching.
• Sharing Existing Results: If you’ve already tested, join the Guthrie DNA Project (free at FamilyTreeDNA) and grant admin access for grouping. Provide your kit number, pedigree chart, or family tree links to help admins spot patterns. Privacy is respected—results are anonymized in project displays.

Participating could resolve edge cases (e.g., variant spellings like Guthrey/Guttridge or disputed parentage) and reveal nuances like intermarriages, adoptions, or migrations. For lineages with theories (e.g., Thickety Creek ties or Swedish mercantile roots), your DNA might provide the proof. Contact the project admins via the Guthrie Genealogy Blog or FamilyTreeDNA group for guidance—many offer free consultations or upgrade discounts. Together, we can turn ungrouped puzzles into connected family stories!