Arbroath Abbey Registers, Pt.2

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Arbroath Abbey Registers

Guthrie Research Sketches

These research sketches interpret the Guthrie references extracted from the Arbroath Abbey Registers and place individual records within a wider documentary context. Each sketch distinguishes what the surviving records actually document from relationships or identifications that are strongly supported, probable, possible, or still unresolved.

The sketches are a companion to the document-focused Arbroath Abbey Registers page, where the underlying entries, translations, and source details can be reviewed.

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Adam de Guthry

Witness at a Forfar justiciary court, 1348

Facts from the Record

Adam de Guthry appears as a witness at a justiciary court held at Forfar on 17 July 1348. The case concerned a Dundee burgess who had improperly collected a penny in royal toll from a tenant of Arbroath Abbey. Adam was not a party to the dispute but was present when the matter was resolved.

He was named among witnesses including the knights Sir David de Graham and Sir Robert de Chesholm, together with Walter de Maule, Henry de Lichtoun, Alexander de Ogilvy, and others. The record gives Adam no title, occupation, residence, property, or family relationships.

Genealogical Significance

This is the earliest dated appearance of an individual bearing the Guthrie designation in the Arbroath Abbey Registers. It places Adam at Forfar in 1348 and indicates that he was considered an appropriate witness to a formal judicial proceeding.

The historical form de Guthry may indicate an association with the lands or parish of Guthrie. It does not, however, prove that Adam owned those lands or belonged to the ancestry of the later Guthries of Kincaldrum or Guthrie of that Ilk. His appearance is most valuable as an early chronological and regional marker rather than evidence of a demonstrated family connection.

Assessment

Documented: Adam de Guthry was present at the Forfar justiciary court on 17 July 1348.

Possible: His designation reflects a territorial connection with Guthrie.

Unconfirmed: His residence, landholding, parentage, descendants, and relationship to later Guthrie families.

The other witnesses—particularly the Graham, Maule, Lichtoun, and Ogilvy associates—may provide the best route to identifying Adam in another surviving record.

Reference

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Willelmus de Guthry

Abbey tenant of Innerlownan, burgess of Perth, and juror, 1418–1438

Facts from the Records

On 14 December 1418, the Abbot and Convent of Arbroath granted Willelmus de Guthry—William of Guthrie—a formal tack of all their lands of Innerlownan. William agreed to pay an annual grain rent, attend the Abbot’s courts, provide plough service when required, and refrain from subletting without the Abbey’s permission. The surviving indenture was sealed by both William and the Abbey.

In 1434, William and Master Alexander de Guthry witnessed the resignation of property in Forfar. The transaction occurred at Perth, and its wording identifies William, Alexander, and several other witnesses as burgesses of Perth. In 1438, William served as a sworn juror at Carnconan in an inheritance inquiry concerning the lands of Tulloch and Craquhy.

The shared name, chronology, and repeated connection with Arbroath Abbey strongly support treating these three appearances as one individual.

Cross-Source Evidence

The Register of the Bishopric of Brechin names Willelmus Guthre de Lownan as a juror in a boundary perambulation in 1450. His territorial designation and continuing jury service make this a probable later appearance of the Innerlownan tenant. Another juror, Walter Guthre of Lownan, may have been a relative, although their relationship is unstated.

The Exchequer Rolls mention the wife of a William Guthry in 1437. The date is compatible, but the absence of a territorial designation makes identification with this William only possible.

Genealogical Significance

William provides the earliest documented personal association between the Guthrie name and Innerlownan or Lownan. Later Arbroath records name Robert, James, John, and Hercules Guthrie as tenants of the same property, suggesting a continuing Guthrie presence there. The records do not prove that these later tenants descended from William.

Assessment

Strongly supported: The William recorded in 1418, 1434, and 1438 was one individual.

Probable: William Guthre of Lownan in 1450 was the same man.

Possible: Walter Guthre of Lownan was a relative, and the unnamed wife recorded in 1437 belonged to this William.

Unconfirmed: William’s parentage, children, connection to the later Lunan tenants, or relationship to the Kincaldrum and Guthrie of that Ilk family.

The William of Guthre who served as alderman of Forfar in 1464 should remain a separate identity unless further evidence connects them.

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Master Alexander de Guthry

Probable Alexander Guthrie, 1st of Kincaldrum

Facts from the Record

On 2 August 1434, Magister Alexander de Guthry witnessed the resignation of property in the burgh of Forfar into the hands of the Abbot of Arbroath. The resignation took place at the north end of Perth Bridge, after which the Abbey granted the property in feu-farm to Andrew Tryppis.

Alexander appeared with William de Guthry and several other witnesses associated with Perth. His title Magisterindicates recognized educational or professional standing, but this record supplies no degree, occupation, landholding, or family relationships. His association with William may reflect a shared family or civic network, although no relationship is stated.

Cross-Source Evidence

The Exchequer Rolls record a Master Alexander de Guthry performing administrative duties connected with Forfar between 1425 and 1435, including service as the king’s receiver of revenues from Montrose. The name, title, chronology, and Forfar setting strongly support identifying him with the 1434 Arbroath witness.

Alexander Guthrie and his wife Marjory acquired Kincaldrum in 1446. The Register of the Bishopric of Brechinsubsequently identifies a juror in 1450 under the forms Alexander de Guthre and Alexander de Kyncaldrum. This provides the strongest territorial connection between the earlier administrator and Alexander Guthrie, 1st of Kincaldrum.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Strongly supported: The Master Alexander found in the Exchequer Rolls and the 1434 Arbroath record was the same individual.

Probable: He was Alexander Guthrie, 1st of Kincaldrum. The chronology presents a coherent progression from royal and burgh administration in 1425–1435 to possession of Kincaldrum in 1446 and identification as de Kyncaldrum in 1450.

If this identification is correct, he was the father of David Guthrie of Kincaldrum and probably also of James Guthrie, whom the Arbroath Register identifies as David’s brother in 1457.

This Alexander must remain distinct from:

  • Master Alexander Guthrie, brother of Marjory Guthrie, who participated in the 1466/67 resignation of Kincaldrum after Sir Alexander’s death; and
  • Alexander Guthrie, Town Clerk of Edinburgh, whose civic career belongs to the sixteenth century and later Edinburgh clerkship tradition. The shared name and title Master do not indicate identity or continuity between them.

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Sir David Guthrie

1st of Guthrie, 2nd of Kincaldrum, and royal administrator

Facts from the Arbroath Records

Four Arbroath Abbey entries document David Guthrie’s early career. In 1453, Magister David Guthre and Thomas Ogilvy of Clova were appointed special bailies of the Abbot to receive a resignation and deliver sasine of an annual rent in Dundee. David witnessed the resignation of Richard, Abbot of Arbroath, in 1455.

On 6 February 1457, he was styled Magister David Guthre de Kincaldrum, vicecomes de Forfar—Master David Guthrie of Kincaldrum, Sheriff of Forfar. Acting as sheriff, he proclaimed boundaries established by a royal perambulation between Abbey property and the King’s Muir of Forfar.

On 7 November 1457, David witnessed an instrument at Aberdeen with Jacobus de Guthre, frater suus—James Guthrie, his brother. This is direct contemporary evidence of their relationship.

Cross-Source Evidence

Other charter evidence identifies David as the eldest son of Alexander Guthrie and Marjory and shows him designated of Kincaldrum during his father’s lifetime.

His subsequent career placed him among the leading administrators of James III’s government. Records identify him as royal treasurer and the chancellor’s deputy by 1463, treasurer during 1464–1466, comptroller in 1467–1468, and clerk of the rolls or clerk register by 1469–1471. He also served in Parliament, acted as a justiciar, and was sent as ambassador to France before July 1473. Later that year he was styled Justiciar of Scotland and Captain of the King’s Guard.

His territorial rise accompanied this royal career:

  • He acquired the lands and barony of Loure in 1464.
  • On 25 March 1465, as David of Kincaldrum and Treasurer, he received the lands of Guthrie.
  • By 1467 he was styled of that Ilk.
  • In 1468 he received a royal licence to build a tower or fortalice at Guthrie.
  • In 1472, David and Jonet his spouse received sasine and confirmation involving lands at Innerpeffer. These records document his wife’s given name but do not supply her surname.
  • On 25 September 1472, David resigned Loure to Alexander Guthrie, his son and apparent heir.

David was still living on 18 May 1474, when he represented the Crown in judicial proceedings. On 23 August 1474, Alexander received sasine of Guthrie as son and heir of the deceased Sir David. His death can therefore be placed between those dates.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

David forms the documented territorial bridge between the early Guthries of Kincaldrum and the established family of Guthrie of that Ilk.

Documented or strongly supported relationships:

  • Alexander Guthrie and Marjory: parents; David was identified as their eldest son.
  • James Guthrie: brother, expressly stated in the 1457 Arbroath record.
  • Jonet: wife, named in the 1472 Innerpeffer instruments; her surname remains unstated in those records.
  • Alexander Guthrie: son, apparent heir in 1472, and heir to Guthrie in 1474.
  • Malcolm Guthrie of Balnabreich: identified as David’s natural son in separate charter evidence.

Traditional or compiled pedigrees identify Jonet as Janet Dundas, but that surname should not be treated as proven without a contemporary record naming her.

The David Guthrie, doctor of both laws, recorded in 1496 must be a different man because Sir David was already deceased by August 1474.

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James Guthrie, Brother of Sir David Guthrie

Probable Arbroath custumar, bailie, and juror, active 1457–1483

Facts from the Arbroath Records

On 7 November 1457, Jacobus de Guthre witnessed a legal instrument in the tolbooth of Aberdeen alongside Magister David Guthre de Kyncaldrum. The record expressly identifies James as David’s brother—frater suus. James receives no territorial designation or office in this entry.

A James Guthrie subsequently witnessed Abbey instruments in 1460 and 1476, served as bailie of Arbroath in 1480, and sat as a sworn juror in an inheritance inquiry in 1483. As bailie, he delivered sasine on behalf of the Abbot and Convent.

Cross-Source Evidence

The Exchequer Rolls of Scotland record James Guthrie as custumar of Arbroath during the accounting period from 1472 to 1476. The shared name, locality, chronology, and administrative duties strongly support identifying this custumar with the 1476 witness and later bailie and juror.

The continuing Arbroath association makes it probable that these later records also concern Sir David’s brother. Nevertheless, none repeats the stated relationship, so the complete 1457–1483 consolidation remains probable rather than proven.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: James Guthrie was the brother of Sir David Guthrie of Kincaldrum.

Because David was identified as the eldest son of Alexander Guthrie and Marjory, James’s stated brotherhood strongly supports placing him as another—and probably younger—son of Alexander. The records reviewed do not establish whether Marjory was also James’s mother.

Strongly supported: The custumar of 1472–1476 was the James who witnessed the 1476 instrument and later served as bailie and juror.

Probable: The appearances from 1457 through 1483 describe one man whose career developed within the financial, legal, and civic administration of Arbroath.

Compiled genealogies associate Sir David’s brother with Halkerton, but no contemporary record reviewed here styles him James Guthrie of Halkerton. That territorial identification remains unconfirmed.

James must remain separate from later Arbroath men of the same name, including James the elder, husband of Katherine Lyn; their son James; and the James Guthrie associated with Janet Panter and Mylhill.

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William Guthrie, Alderman of Forfar

Civic leader at Forfar, active 1464–1466

Facts from the Arbroath Record

On 11 August 1464, William off Guthre appeared as alderman of the burgh of Forfar. Together with Laurence of Lothian and William Richardson, the burgh bailies, and the assembled community, he issued a formal instrument concerning Arbroath Abbey’s rights in the King’s Muir.

After examining the Abbey’s charters and evidence of long possession, the burgh recognized the rights of the Abbey’s tenants at Ouchterlony and Craquhy to use the muir. William and the other officials agreed that the community would defend the Abbey and its tenants against future interference.

William was not merely a witness. As alderman, he was the first-named civic officer issuing the agreement on behalf of Forfar.

Cross-Source Evidence

The Exchequer Rolls document Willelmus Guthre rendering Forfar’s burgh accounts on behalf of its municipal officers on 21 August 1465 and again on 3 July 1466. The identical name, burgh, chronology, and continuing financial responsibilities strongly support identifying him with the alderman of 1464.

Wil of Guthre appeared before the Lords Auditors on 10 October 1466 and unsuccessfully proposed a legal exception. His identity as the Forfar official is possible, but the entry supplies no office, residence, or territorial designation.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: William Guthrie was alderman of Forfar in 1464.

Strongly supported: He was the William Guthre entrusted with rendering the burgh accounts in 1465 and 1466.

Possible: William was the son of Alexander Guthrie, 1st of Kincaldrum, reported in compiled family reconstructions. His chronology, status, and Forfar associations are compatible with that placement and with his being a brother of Sir David and James Guthrie. No record reviewed, however, calls him a son of Alexander, brother of David, or of Kincaldrum.

William should presently remain separate from the earlier William of Lownan. He might later have been William Guthrie of Kinblethmont, active from 1479, but the Forfar records provide no territorial connection. The traditional association of Alexander’s reported son William with Eassie is likewise unconfirmed.

William’s parentage, marriage, children, residence, and personal landholdings remain unresolved.

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Master Richard Guthrie

Professor of sacred theology, royal confessor, general almoner, and Abbot of Arbroath

Facts from the Arbroath Record

On 22 November 1464, Magister Ricardus Guthre, sacre theologie professor—Master Richard Guthrie, professor of sacred theology—conducted an inquisition into the foundation, revenues, and administration of Arbroath Abbey’s almonry house and Spitalfield.

Richard and John Graham, prior of the Dominican friars at St Andrews, acted as commissaries for King James III and James Kennedy, Bishop of St Andrews. They summoned and swore an assize whose inquiries included whether the almonry was supporting poor and infirm people, whether any of its revenues had been alienated, and whether its buildings and chapel were properly maintained.

Richard was therefore not an incidental witness. He exercised delegated royal and episcopal authority in an investigation of the Abbey’s charitable institutions.

Cross-Source Evidence

Richard’s academic career began well before the Arbroath inquiry. University evidence places him at Cologne in 1442 as a candidate for the licentiate in arts. Modern academic reconstruction identifies him as the Richard Guthrie who became Abbot of Arbroath in about 1449 and resigned the abbacy on 18 December 1455.

After that resignation, Richard was active at the University of St Andrews as an arts regent, assessor, committee official, and faculty member between 1457 and 1467. His university career helps explain the title professor of sacred theologyused in the 1464 Arbroath record.

In 1469, Parliament appointed Master Richard Guthrie:

  • principal confessor to King James III;
  • general almoner; and
  • royal agent for restoring hospitals to their original foundations.

The close similarity between this national responsibility and his investigation of Arbroath’s almonry makes the identification with the 1464 commissary especially strong.

Following the removal of Abbot Malcolm, Richard—then described as prior and professor of theology—was elected Abbot of Arbroath on 3 November 1470. A papal provision of 11 April 1471 identified the new abbot as Richard Guther, the king’s confessor, directly connecting him with the royal officer of 1469. He attended Parliament as Abbot of Arbroath on 6 May 1471, but his second tenure was brief; another abbot was in office by July 1472.

Theological books associated with Richard at Arbroath in 1473 provide further evidence of his scholarly interests, although the inventory does not establish whether the books were donated, deposited, or bequeathed.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: Master Richard Guthrie was professor of sacred theology and a royal and episcopal commissary at Arbroath in 1464.

Strongly supported: The 1464 theologian was the principal royal confessor and general almoner appointed in 1469 and the Richard Guthrie elected Abbot of Arbroath in 1470.

Strongly supported by the combined monastic and university evidence: He was also the Richard Guthrie who first held the abbacy from about 1449 until his resignation in 1455. His later St Andrews career accounts for the interval between his two tenures.

Probable: Richard Guthrie, prebendary of Lethnot in 1450, was the same ecclesiastic.

Richard and Sir David Guthrie of that Ilk had several notable points of association. Both studied at Cologne during the early 1440s; David witnessed the resignation of Abbot Richard in 1455; and both attended Parliament in November 1469 while holding senior royal offices. These connections place them within the same academic, ecclesiastical, and governmental circle, but no record identifies them as relatives. Richard should not be inserted into the Kincaldrum family without further evidence.

He must also remain distinct from James Guthrie, Abbot of Kinloss, who attended the same Parliament as Richard in May 1471. Richard’s parentage, place of origin, and relationship to any territorial Guthrie family remain unresolved.

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John Guthyn, Priest and Public Notary

Active in Aberdeen and the Barony of Tarves, 1469

Facts from the Arbroath Records

In 1469, Johannes Guthyn helped authenticate a formal transumpt—an authoritative copy of earlier documents—before John Ogstoun, Sheriff of Aberdeen, in the sheriff court held in Aberdeen’s tolbooth.

The documents concerned disputed boundaries between Arbroath Abbey’s barony of Tarves and the lands of Udny. John subscribed the completed instrument with Robert Leis, another public notary. John’s full designation identifies him as a priest of the Diocese of St Andrews and public notary by imperial authority.

A second instrument dated 6 July 1469 records John acting as notary on disputed lands between Tarves and Meldrum. Malcolm, Abbot of Arbroath, alleged that Alexander Seton of Meldrum had improperly removed produce from the property. Seton made symbolic restitution, and the parties agreed that the boundaries would be determined under a royal brief of perambulation.

The exact repetition of John’s name, clerical status, diocese, notarial office, and imperial authority establishes that the two instruments concern the same man.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: John Guthyn was a priest belonging to the Diocese of St Andrews and a public notary authorized by imperial authority. His work in 1469 extended from Aberdeen’s sheriff court to Abbey property in the barony of Tarves.

John’s diocesan affiliation does not establish that he was born or resident in St Andrews. Nor do the records identify him as a monk or permanent official of Arbroath Abbey. He appears to have served as a professional clerical notary employed in the Abbey’s legal affairs.

The Aberdeen transumpt incorporated the 1457 instrument naming Sir David Guthrie of Kincaldrum and his brother James. John therefore authenticated a document involving two contemporary Guthries, but this was a professional and documentary connection. It provides no evidence that he was their relative or belonged to the Kincaldrum family.

John should also remain separate from the contemporary John Guthery of Eassie. Although the chronology permits comparison, John of Eassie appears in territorial and landed contexts, while John Guthyn is identified only as a priest and notary. No record currently connects those identities.

John’s parentage, birthplace, benefice, residence, and relationship to other Guthrie families remain unresolved. Further identification will most likely come from another instrument bearing his full notarial subscription or notarial sign.

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Sir Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk

2nd Baron of Guthrie and 3rd of Kincaldrum

Facts from the Arbroath Records

Six Arbroath entries trace Sir Alexander’s association with the Abbey and the burgh:

  • In 1481 and 1482, Alexander Guthery de eodem—Alexander Guthrie of that ilk—witnessed Abbey transactions concerning Forglen and the vicar of Arbroath.
  • In 1495, Schir Alexander Guthre of that ilk, knycht served on a sheriff-court assize concerning Balnamonismyre. This is the first Arbroath entry explicitly styling him both Sir and knight.
  • In 1505, Alexander Guthre de eodem, miles was identified as the owner of adjoining land in the Burrowrudis of Arbroath.
  • In 1506, he witnessed the Abbey’s harbour agreement with Lord Innermeath at Ethie.
  • An instrument dated 18 April 1513 names the dominus de Guthre—lord or laird of Guthrie—as the owner of adjoining land in Arbroath’s Marketgate. The title, property connection, and date make identification with Sir Alexander almost certain.

These records show him acting as a trusted witness and juror while also documenting his property interests within Arbroath.

Cross-Source Evidence

A Great Seal charter of 1472 was granted to Alexander following a resignation by his father. More decisively, a sasine dated 23 August 1474 identifies Alexander as son and heir of the deceased Sir David Guthrie of Guthrie. By 1475 he was styled of that ilk and served as bailie or receiver of the royal thanage of Kincardine or Fethirkern.

Other records identify him with Kincaldrum in 1478, place him among the parliamentary barons in 1481, and name him Sheriff of Forfar in 1482. He was a knight by August 1495. The Acts of the Lords of Council document his extensive involvement in litigation and estate administration between 1496 and 1503 and explicitly call him the Laird of Guthriein 1501.

In 1503, Sir Alexander acted as procurator for Margaret Lyon, then widow of James Rynd. A royal confirmation in 1508 names Margaret as Sir Alexander’s wife and records his grant of Kincaldrum, Lour, Muirton, and associated lands to his son Alexander. George Guthrie also witnessed the charter and was expressly identified as Sir Alexander’s son.

An obit associated with the Collegiate Church of Guthrie records Sir Alexander’s death at Branxton—Flodden—on 9 September 1513.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: Sir Alexander was the son and successor of Sir David Guthrie. His mother remains unresolved. Sir David’s wife Jonet is documented, but no record reviewed identifies her as Alexander’s mother or proves the traditional surname Dundas.

Documented: Margaret Lyon was Sir Alexander’s wife by 1508. She had contracted marriage with James Rynd in 1495 and appeared as his widow in 1500–01, so her marriage to Sir Alexander belonged to the later part of his life.

Probable: Sir Alexander had an unidentified earlier wife who was the mother of his older children. Margaret Lyon cannot credibly have been the mother of every child assigned to him in traditional pedigrees.

His known or strongly supported children include:

  • David Guthrie: eldest son and intended successor, traditionally recorded as dying with his father at Flodden. His possible identification with Master David Guthrie, doctor of both laws and provost, remains an important but unproven theory.
  • Alexander Guthrie: documented son who received Kincaldrum in 1508, creating the later separate Kincaldrum succession.
  • George Guthrie: documented son and witness in 1508; his later identification as George Guthrie of Kincreich requires further evidence.
  • Elizabeth Guthrie: documented in 1518 as Margaret Lyon’s daughter. Margaret’s styling as Lady Guthrie strongly supports Elizabeth’s placement as Sir Alexander’s daughter, although the cited contract abstract should be checked for its precise statement of paternity.

The 1514 NRS catalogue abstract calls Andrew Guthrie the “son and heir” of Sir Alexander. The reconstructed pedigree instead identifies Andrew as David’s son and therefore Sir Alexander’s grandson. The original instrument should be examined before that generational discrepancy is treated as resolved.

The traditional placement of John Guthrie of Eassie and Hiltoun as Sir Alexander’s son is not supported. Contemporary evidence identifies that John as heir of David Guthrie of Eassie.

Sir Alexander must remain distinct from Master Alexander de Guthry of 1434, his own son Alexander who received Kincaldrum in 1508, the later Alexander of Kincaldrum recorded in 1538, and Alexander Guthrie, Town Clerk of Edinburgh.

The descriptions “2nd Baron of Guthrie” and “3rd of Kincaldrum” are useful modern genealogical numbering, not titles found in the contemporary records.

References

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The Lady of Guthrie

Unidentified female landholder in Arbroath, 1483

Facts from the Arbroath Record

On 20 October 1483, an unidentified woman styled domina de Guthre—the Lady of Guthrie—was named as a neighboring proprietor during an inheritance inquest held before Nicholas Horner, bailie of Arbroath.

The inquest concerned Helen Gardyn’s claim as heir of her mother, Katherine Conane, in several burgh properties and annual rents. One parcel on the south side of the Aldmarcatgate, or Old Market Gate, lay between the land of William Davidson on the west and the land of the Lady of Guthrie on the east.

The Lady of Guthrie was not a party to the proceeding and did not appear personally. Her property was mentioned only to define the boundary. The record therefore establishes her landholding but does not reveal her personal name, marital status, family relationships, or how she acquired the property.

James Guthrie served as one of the sworn jurors in the same inquest. No relationship between James and the Lady of Guthrie is stated.

Cross-Source Evidence

The territorial wording domina de Guthre probably connects this woman with the principal family of Guthrie of that Ilk. It does not determine whether she was the wife or widow of a laird or held the property in some other right.

Two identities are chronologically possible:

  • Jonet, widow of Sir David Guthrie: Jonet was named as Sir David’s spouse in 1472, and Sir David was deceased by August 1474. If she remained alive in 1483, she could have continued to be styled Lady of Guthrie. Her surname, later life, and connection to Arbroath remain undocumented. The traditional identification of her as Janet Dundas cannot presently be treated as proven.
  • An unidentified wife of Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk: Alexander had succeeded his father by 1474 and appeared under the territorial designation of that ilk in the Arbroath records in 1481 and 1482. The wife of the current laird could naturally have been called Lady of Guthrie. If so, this woman may have been the unidentified earlier wife and possible mother of Alexander’s older children.

The 1483 woman should not be identified as Margaret Lyon. Margaret contracted marriage with James Rynd in 1495, appeared as his widow in 1500–01, and became Sir Alexander’s wife later. That chronology places her marriage to Sir Alexander well after the Lady of Guthrie’s appearance.

Later Arbroath records name Sir Alexander as a neighboring proprietor in the Burrowrudis in 1505 and the lord of Guthrie as a Marketgate proprietor in 1513. These entries establish a continuing pattern of urban property ownership by the principal family, but they do not prove that the later properties were the Aldmarcatgate land held by the Lady of Guthrie.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: A woman styled domina de Guthre held land in the Aldmarcatgate of Arbroath in 1483.

Strongly suggested: Her title reflects a connection with the territorial family of Guthrie of that Ilk rather than the simple use of Guthrie as a personal surname.

Possible: She was Jonet, widow of Sir David Guthrie.

Possible: She was an unidentified earlier wife of Sir Alexander Guthrie and potentially the mother of one or more of his older children.

Ruled out under the documented marriage chronology: Margaret Lyon.

The woman’s identity must remain unresolved. Neither the shared inquest with James Guthrie nor the later Arbroath property of Sir Alexander provides enough evidence to assign her a specific relationship. Nevertheless, the entry may preserve evidence of a presently unidentified woman—and possibly an unidentified marriage—within the earliest generations of Guthrie of that Ilk.

References

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William Guthrie of Kinblethmont

Feuar, guardian, and juror, active 1470–1505

Facts from the Arbroath Record

On 23 July 1494, Willelmus Guthre de Kynblaithmont—William Guthrie of Kinblethmont—served as a sworn juror in an inheritance inquest held at Arbroath.

The inquest determined that Alexander Irvine of Drum was the lawful heir of his father in the lands of Forglen and the patronage of its church. William sat with prominent territorial men, including Thomas, Lord Innermeath; Sir Thomas Ogilvy; David Rossy, apparent heir of that ilk; and Alexander Baldovy of that ilk.

William’s designation of Kinblethmont and his selection for the assize reflect his established territorial and legal standing.

Cross-Source Evidence

William’s connection with Kinblethmont began considerably earlier than the Arbroath entry. On 2 October 1470, the lands were granted in feu-farm to William and his heirs for an annual payment of £10. He is therefore the earliest documented Guthrie holder of Kinblethmont, not merely the earliest man found using its territorial designation.

On 6 March 1479, William of Guthrie of Kinbrachmont appeared before the Lords Auditors concerning his former guardianship of Walter Fullarton. William produced a procuratory and acquittance proving that he had rendered a sufficient account of his administration. The parliamentary editors identify Kinbrachmont as a possible form of Kinblethmont. The name, territory, chronology, and administrative standing strongly support identifying him with the Arbroath juror.

A charter dated 26 February 1494/95 conveyed Kinblethmont from William to his son and heir, Alexander Guthrie. This establishes their relationship and replaces the earlier assessment that Alexander was only a probable successor.

William remained active in the wider Kincaldrum circle in 1505. By 12 August 1507, however, a grant concerning the Hospital of St German referred to Kinblethmont as formerly belonging to Alexander’s father, the deceased William Guthrie. William therefore died sometime between those records, traditionally estimated as about 1506.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: William Guthrie held Kinblethmont by 1470 and served as a juror in the Forglen inquest in 1494.

Strongly supported: He was the William of Kinbrachmont who had formerly acted as Walter Fullarton’s guardian and successfully accounted for that administration in 1479.

Documented: Alexander Guthrie of Kinblethmont was William’s son and heir. Alexander later appears with his wife, Janet Strachan, in the Arbroath records of 1526 and as one of the Abbot’s special bailies in 1527.

The documented succession begins:

William Guthrie of Kinblethmont
→ Alexander Guthrie of Kinblethmont
→ Thomas Guthrie of Kinblethmont
→ William and Robert Guthrie of Kinblethmont

Possible: William’s wife was Dovay Leslie, a reported daughter of Sir William Leslie. The Leslie tradition instead describes her husband as Thomas Guthrie of Kinblethmont, while later reconstructions transfer her to William’s generation. The proposed correction is plausible but is not established as clearly as the documented father–son relationship between William and Alexander.

Possible: William was the same man as William Guthrie, Alderman of Forfar, active from 1464 to 1466. Their chronology, locality, civic standing, and administrative experience are compatible, but no record directly connects the alderman with Kinblethmont. They should remain separate working identities.

Possible: William was a son of Alexander Guthrie, 1st of Kincaldrum, and therefore a brother of Sir David and James Guthrie. His generation, territorial status, Angus associations, and later connection with Kincaldrum permit this placement, but no contemporary record reviewed identifies his father or calls him a brother of Sir David.

The traditional identification of William as of Eassie also remains unconfirmed. Kinblethmont is his only securely documented territorial designation.

References

Guthrie Research Sketch

Robert Guthrie, Tenant of Innerlownan

Possible member of the Lunan tenancy family

Facts from the Arbroath Record

On 4 June 1496, David, Abbot of Arbroath, granted Robertus Guthre—Robert Guthrie—a nineteen-year tack of the Abbey’s lands and garbal teinds of Innerlownan.

Robert was the principal tenant. His assignees required the Abbot’s approval, and he could not transfer or sublet the property without permission except to establish cottars. He was responsible for a substantial annual grain rent, attendance at the Abbey’s courts, customary plough service, carrying tiles to the monastery, and riding with the Abbot when required.

The agreement establishes Robert as a tenant of considerable responsibility, but not as the hereditary proprietor of Innerlownan. It does not identify his father, wife, children, previous residence, or eventual successor.

Cross-Source Evidence

Robert’s tack forms part of a recurring Guthrie association with Innerlownan:

  • 1418: William of Guthrie received a nineteen-year tack of the lands.
  • 1496: Robert Guthrie received the lands and garbal teinds.
  • 1512: James Guthrie received another nineteen-year tack.
  • 1526: John Guthrie and his son Hercules received the lands and teinds jointly.

Only the final record states a family relationship: Hercules was John’s son. None identifies Robert as William’s descendant, James as Robert’s son or heir, or John as James’s successor.

The dates also caution against assuming a simple inheritance. Robert’s nominal term would have continued until about 1515, yet James received a new tack in 1512. The earlier agreement may have ended through death, resignation, assignment, replacement, or another arrangement not preserved in the register.

A Robert Guthre received sasine of Glensauch in Kincardineshire in 1481. The chronology permits identification with the Innerlownan tenant, but the records provide no shared property, relative, associate, or transaction. Robert of Glensauch and Robert of Innerlownan should remain separate working identities.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: Robert Guthrie was the principal tenant of the lands and garbal teinds of Innerlownan under a nineteen-year Abbey tack beginning in 1496.

Strongly suggested: Innerlownan had a recurring association with Guthrie tenants extending from William in 1418 through Robert, James, John, and Hercules. This may represent a continuing family or extended household, although the individual relationships are not documented.

Possible: Robert was a descendant or collateral relative of William of Guthrie, the earlier Innerlownan tenant. The seventy-eight-year interval makes several generations possible.

Possible: James Guthrie, who received Innerlownan in 1512, was Robert’s son, heir, assignee, or another close relative. The shared surname and tenancy make comparison important but do not prove descent.

Possible: Robert was the father or another close relative of Margaret Guthrie, later wife of Sir Robert Carnegie. Margaret is described as a daughter of “Guthrie of Lunan,” and Robert belongs to the appropriate territorial and chronological group. However, no record names Margaret’s father as Robert, and James Guthrie remains another possible candidate within the same tenancy family.

Not established: Any relationship between the Innerlownan tenants and the baronial family of Guthrie of that Ilk.

Robert’s parentage, marriage, children, connection to the other Innerlownan tenants, and later fate remain unresolved.

References

Guthrie Research Sketch

Master David Guthrie, Doctor of Both Laws

Possible son of Sir Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk

Facts from the Arbroath Record

On 12 December 1496, Dauid Guthre, utriusque iuris doctor—David Guthrie, doctor of both laws—was appointed one of Arbroath Abbey’s procurators in an ecclesiastical case to be heard before a papal subdelegate in Edinburgh.

His doctorate covered both canon law and civil or Roman law. David was therefore selected as a qualified legal representative, not merely as a witness. He received authority to challenge the commission and jurisdiction, lodge protests and exceptions, and perform the other acts required of a procurator.

The same document names the Provost of Guthrie separately. It consequently does not identify David as Provost of the Collegiate Church of Guthrie in 1496.

Cross-Source Evidence

A matching Master David Guthrie appears in several Aberdeen and central legal records:

  • In 1491, Master David Guthre was Provost of Aberdeen and a principal witness to the public confirmation of a burgh lease.
  • In August 1497, Bishop William Elphinstone appointed David Guthrie, doctor of both laws, as a procurator concerning St German’s Hospital and property annexed to the University of Aberdeen.
  • On 3 September 1497, David acted for the Bishop and University in taking formal possession of the church of Arbuthnott. He was expressly described as a doctor of both laws and lecturer at the University of Aberdeen.
  • In 1499, David Guthre, rector of Aberdour, appeared among the members of the Aberdeen Cathedral chapter.
  • In November 1500, Master David Guthrie, dotour or doctor, entered a procedural protestation before the Lords of Council.
  • In March 1500–01, Master David, styled provost, acted as procurator for Elizabeth Guthrie, widow of Alexander Maule, and in litigation concerning Kirktoun and Eastertoun of Guthrie.
  • In September 1503, David was again identified as doctor of both laws and Provost of Aberdour, appearing among the canons representing the Aberdeen Cathedral chapter.
  • In 1504, a matching Master David Guthre was again called Provost of Aberdeen and was entrusted with settling a burgh dispute after his return home.

The name, uncommon doctorate, university position, legal functions, Aberdeen associations, and overlapping chronology strongly support treating these appearances as one man, active from at least 1491 through 1504.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: David Guthrie was a doctor of civil and canon law by 1496, a University of Aberdeen lecturer in 1497, rector and later Provost of Aberdour, a member of the Aberdeen Cathedral chapter, and an experienced legal procurator.

Strongly supported: The Arbroath doctor, University lecturer, Aberdeen churchman, Lords of Council procurator, and civic provost were the same individual.

The March 1501 litigation distinguishes the living doctor-provost from an earlier deceased Master David Guthrie of that ilk whose defective title document concerned the Guthrie lands. The two men must remain separate.

Possible and materially supported: The doctor-provost was David Guthrie, eldest son and heir of Sir Alexander Guthrie of that Ilk.

Several circumstances support the theory:

  • David belongs to the appropriate generation.
  • His education, authority, and legal career are compatible with the eldest son of a prominent landed family.
  • He acted directly in litigation involving Sir Alexander and the Guthrie estate.
  • He represented Elizabeth Guthrie, traditionally identified as Sir Alexander’s sister. If both traditional placements are correct, Elizabeth was David’s paternal aunt.
  • His documented activity through 1504 is compatible with the traditional account that Sir Alexander’s son David died with his father at Flodden in 1513.

The identification is not yet proven. No record reviewed explicitly calls the doctor Sir Alexander’s sonfiar or heir of Guthriefather of Andrew Guthrie, or the David killed at Flodden.

David’s ecclesiastical career also requires investigation. His offices at Aberdour and Aberdeen raise questions about his ordination, marriage, and ability to have a legitimate heir. The records reviewed do not establish his precise clerical orders or marital status, so this evidence neither proves nor rules out the proposed identity.

The different provostships should not be confused. “Provost of that ilk” in the Aberdeen burgh records means provost of the same burgh; the 1503 university record identifies him as Provost of Aberdour; and the 1496 Arbroath document names the Provost of Guthrie separately. None of these titles by itself proves descent from Guthrie of that Ilk.

If the identification is correct, Margaret Lyon cannot have been David’s mother. David was already Provost of Aberdeen in 1491 and a doctor of both laws in 1496, while Margaret contracted marriage with James Rynd in 1495 and married Sir Alexander only later. David would instead have been a son of Sir Alexander’s unidentified earlier wife.

The present assessment should therefore remain:

Master David Guthrie, doctor and provost = a strong candidate for David Guthrie, eldest son of Sir Alexander Guthrie, but not yet a proven identification.

References

Guthrie Research Sketch

Master Malcolm Guthrie

Previous Abbey tenant and later legal procurator, active 1496–1501; possible Malcolm Guthrie of Balnabreich

Facts from the Arbroath Record

On 8 March 1496, Magister Malcolmus Guthre—Master Malcolm Guthrie—was named in a nineteen-year tack granted by David, Abbot of Arbroath, to Sir Thomas Ogilvy, knight.

The new tack included the Abbey lands of Guthyn and Wester Brex with their garbal teinds. Sir Thomas’s entry was to begin at Pentecost following the expiration of the existing tack held by Master Malcolm.

The record therefore establishes that Malcolm had been the principal Abbey tenant of this substantial holding and that his legal interest had to expire before Sir Thomas could enter. It does not preserve Malcolm’s original tack, explain when his tenancy began, or state why it ended.

Malcolm did not appear personally in the transaction. Nothing in the entry suggests that he had died, defaulted, forfeited the lands, or been forcibly removed. His tenancy may simply have reached the end of its agreed term.

The title Master indicates learned or university status, but the record does not identify Malcolm’s university, degree, profession, or any ecclesiastical office.

Cross-Source Evidence

On 10 May 1501, Mr Malcolm Guthrie acted as procurator for Sir Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk in an action brought by John Dempster of Auchterless.

Sir Alexander appeared through Malcolm rather than personally. The Lords ordered the Sheriff of Forfar to execute the relevant letters and an earlier decree.

The shared name and distinctive title, the five-year interval, the Angus setting, and the association with Guthrie lands and the principal Guthrie family strongly support identifying the 1496 tenant with the 1501 procurator. No competing contemporary man styled Master Malcolm Guthrie has been found in the records reviewed.

The two appearances nevertheless lack a shared territorial designation, office, or stated relative. Their consolidation is strongly supported rather than explicitly documented.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: Master Malcolm Guthrie held the preceding tack of the Abbey lands of Guthyn and Wester Brex before Pentecost 1496.

Documented: A Master Malcolm Guthrie acted as Sir Alexander Guthrie’s legal procurator in 1501.

Strongly supported: The Abbey tenant and the procurator were the same individual.

A particularly significant candidate for his fuller identity is Malcolm Guthrie of Balnabreich. On 4 February 1472, Sir David Guthrie of That Ilk granted Balnabreich to Malcolm Guthrie, expressly identified as his natural son.

If Master Malcolm was the Balnabreich grantee, his documented position would be:

Sir David Guthrie of That Ilk
→ Malcolm Guthrie of Balnabreich, natural son

Under that identification, Malcolm would have been the paternal half-brother of Sir Alexander Guthrie. His appearance as Sir Alexander’s procurator in 1501 would then represent one brother managing legal business for another.

The reconstruction is coherent in chronology, geography, social position, and family association. Malcolm’s learned title and legal role would also explain why Sir Alexander entrusted him with representation before the Lords of Council.

It remains unproven, however. No record reviewed calls the Abbey tenant or procurator of Balnabreich, and the 1472 charter does not style Sir David’s natural son Master. A procurator was not required to be a relative, so Malcolm’s service for Sir Alexander cannot by itself prove a brotherly relationship.

Strong possibility: Master Malcolm was Malcolm Guthrie of Balnabreich, natural son of Sir David Guthrie.

Possible familial interpretation: If the identification is correct, Malcolm was Sir Alexander’s paternal half-brother.

Ruled out: Master Malcolm was not Malcolm Guthrie of Kingennie. The Kingennie man died on 24 November 1482 and was already described as deceased by 1484, well before the appearances of 1496 and 1501.

Malcolm’s parentage therefore remains unresolved unless his identification with the Balnabreich grantee can be confirmed. His degree, precise profession, marriage, children, and date of death are also unknown. If the 1496 and 1501 records concern one man, he was alive on 10 May 1501.

References

Guthrie Research Sketch

James Guthrie the Elder and Katherine Lyn

Abbey tenants at Seaton and North Tarry Parents of James Guthrie

Facts from the Arbroath Records

On 6 May 1498, David, Abbot of Arbroath, granted James Guthrie the elder a life-tack of one-half of the Abbey’s town of Seaton. The agreement explicitly identifies Katherine Lyn as his wife and James Guthrie as his son.

After James the elder’s death, Katherine and their son were to hold the same half of Seaton jointly for another thirteen years. Katherine’s interest depended upon her remaining unmarried, but the son’s right was not subject to that condition.

The Seaton tenancy carried an annual rent of £6 13s. 4d. Scots and customary services. These included transporting peat, hay, and roofing tiles and maintaining a fully equipped fishing boat for the Abbey. The obligations indicate a substantial agricultural and fishing operation rather than a small domestic holding.

On 12 April 1505, the Abbey granted the same family a life-tack of one-third of North Tarry:

  • James Guthrie the elder;
  • Katherine Lyn, his wife; and
  • James Guthrie, his son.

Katherine and the younger James were again designated to continue the tenancy after the elder James’s death, with Katherine’s right conditional upon her remaining unmarried.

No surrender of the earlier Seaton tack is recorded. The family therefore appears to have held interests in both Seaton and North Tarry by 1505.

The term “the elder” distinguishes the father from his same-named son. It does not necessarily mean that James was elderly.

Cross-Source Evidence

On 31 March 1498, only five weeks before the Seaton tack, James Guthrie and Katherine Lyn appeared together as defenders before the Lords of Council in litigation concerning livestock and other goods connected with Campsie and the Kirktoun of Eassie.

The exact pairing of the spouses’ names, location, and close chronology establish that the Council defenders were the same couple later named in the Abbey tacks. The accusation against James and Katherine concerned the wrongful obtaining of legal letters associated with the dispute; the record does not clearly accuse them personally of removing the livestock.

Their son may appear independently in 1501. On 21 June, James Guthrie, burgess of Arbroath, and his wife Janet Panter received a tack of Mylhill. On 15 July, a James Guthrie in Seaton witnessed an Abbey procuratory.

The younger James already possessed a future interest in Seaton, while Katherine remained the elder James’s wife in 1505. This makes their son a strong candidate for both the Arbroath burgess married to Janet Panter and the witness described as “in Seaton.” Neither 1501 record, however, explicitly names his parents.

An earlier James Guthrie—documented as the brother of Sir David Guthrie of Kincaldrum in 1457—remained active around Arbroath through 1483 as a probable custumar, witness, bailie, and juror. His chronology and Arbroath associations permit identification with James the elder, but the later records provide no reference to Sir David, Kincaldrum, Halkerton, or the earlier civic offices. The two identities should not yet be merged.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: James Guthrie the elder and Katherine Lyn were husband and wife and had a son named James.

Documented: James the elder held half of Seaton for life beginning in 1498. Katherine and their son were designated to succeed him for thirteen years after his death.

Documented: The same family received a life-tack of one-third of North Tarry in 1505, again with succession provisions for Katherine and their son.

Documented: James the elder was alive on 12 April 1505, and Katherine was still identified as his wife.

Strongly supported: The couple named in the Abbey tacks were the James Guthrie and Katherine Lyn involved in the March 1498 Council proceeding.

Strong possibility: Their son James was the Arbroath burgess who married Janet Panter and the man described as “in Seaton” in 1501.

Possible: James the elder was the earlier James Guthrie who was brother of Sir David Guthrie of Kincaldrum and served in Arbroath’s civic and Abbey administration.

Unresolved: Any connection with Halkerton depends upon identifying James the elder with the earlier brother of Sir David.

Unresolved: Either the father or son could have been the James Guthrie who received Innerlownan in 1512.

Katherine Lyn’s parentage, the couple’s additional children, and their dates of death remain unknown.

References

Guthrie Research Sketch

James Guthrie, Burgess of Arbroath, and Joneta Panter

Strong candidate for James, son of James Guthrie the elder and Katherine Lyn

Facts from the Arbroath Records

On 21 June 1501, David, Abbot of Arbroath, granted a nineteen-year tack of Mylhill to James Guthrie, burgess of Arbroath, and Joneta Panter, his wife. Her name may be modernized as Janet Panter.

James already occupied Mylhill when the tack was issued. The couple received the property jointly with the right to nominate an approved assignee and were to pay forty shillings Scots annually. Their interest was an Abbey tenancy rather than hereditary ownership.

Less than one month later, on 15 July 1501, James Guthrie in Seaton witnessed an Abbey procuratory. The chronology and compatible local associations strongly suggest that the Mylhill burgess and the Seaton witness were the same man, although the second record does not mention Joneta or Mylhill.

Cross-Source Evidence

In 1498, a younger James was explicitly identified as the son of James Guthrie the elder and Katherine Lyn. He received a future interest in his father’s tenancy at Seaton. The same son was again named separately from his parents in their North Tarry tack of 1505.

This creates a persuasive sequence:

1498: James, son of James the elder and Katherine Lyn, receives an interest in Seaton
1501: James Guthrie, burgess of Arbroath, holds Mylhill with Joneta Panter
1501: James Guthrie “in Seaton” witnesses an Abbey instrument

The elder James remained Katherine Lyn’s husband in both 1498 and 1505. He is therefore very unlikely to have been Joneta Panter’s husband in 1501. Their separately named son is the strongest candidate for the burgess.

The Mylhill succession supplies additional family evidence. In 1509, the Abbey granted Mylhill to Henry Guthrie, burgess of Arbroath; Elizabeth Lyell, his wife; and their eldest son John. The record states that the same lands were held by James, Henry’s father, when the new tack was made.

The shared property strongly supports identifying Henry’s father with the James Guthrie who held Mylhill with Joneta in 1501. The record does not, however, identify Joneta as Henry’s mother.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: James Guthrie was a burgess of Arbroath and the husband of Joneta Panter by June 1501.

Documented: James and Joneta jointly held a nineteen-year Abbey tack of Mylhill, which James already occupied.

Probable: The Mylhill burgess was the James Guthrie described as “in Seaton” the following month.

Strong candidate: James was the documented son of James Guthrie the elder and Katherine Lyn. The Seaton interest, chronology, Arbroath associations, and distinction from the elder James collectively support the identification, but no single record states the filiation.

Strongly supported: The James identified as Henry Guthrie’s father in the 1509 Mylhill tack was the burgess who held the same property with Joneta in 1501.

The resulting reconstruction is:

James Guthrie the elder and Katherine Lyn
→ probably James Guthrie, burgess of Arbroath, husband of Joneta Panter
→ Henry Guthrie, husband of Elizabeth Lyell
→ John Guthrie, their eldest son

Joneta’s parentage and children remain unresolved. She may have been Henry’s mother, but the records reviewed do not establish that relationship. The James Guthrie who received Innerlownan in 1512 is another possible appearance of the burgess but should remain a separate working identity.

References

Guthrie Research Sketch

Marjorie Guthrie, Wife of Charles Brown

Named spiritual beneficiary of the perpetual Chaplainry of St Nicholas at Arbroath, 1505

Facts from the Arbroath Record

On 14 November 1505, Charles Brown, burgess of Arbroath, founded a perpetual chaplainry at the altar of St Nicholas in the Chapel of the Blessed Virgin Mary near the West Bridge of Arbroath. The foundation was confirmed by George Hepburn, Abbot of Arbroath, on 10 March 1505–06.

Charles’s charter expressly identifies Marjorie Guthre—Marjorie Guthrie—as his spouse. The chaplainry was established for the spiritual welfare of King James IV and his queen, the Abbot and convent, Charles himself, Marjorie, Charles’s parents, their predecessors and successors, and the faithful departed.

Marjorie was therefore more than an incidental witness or neighboring landholder. She was named with her husband as one of the principal beneficiaries of the religious foundation.

The charter does not, however, identify Marjorie as a co-founder or state that she personally contributed property. Charles endowed the chaplainry with numerous lands, tenements, gardens, annual rents, and ground duties throughout Arbroath. Nothing in the record establishes whether any of these interests came through Marjorie or her Guthrie family.

The reference to prayers for Marjorie’s soul does not prove that she was deceased. The foundation included living and deceased beneficiaries, and the charter describes her simply as Charles’s spouse.

Cross-Source Evidence

Two other Guthries appear within the property descriptions:

  • James Guthrie owned neighboring land beside a tenement in Cobgate.
  • Sir Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk owned neighboring land in the Burrowrudis.

Their presence places Marjorie within an Arbroath property community that included both a locally established James Guthrie and the head of the principal territorial family. Neither man was a party to the foundation, however, and neither was identified as Marjorie’s relative.

The neighboring James cannot yet be securely distinguished among the several contemporary men of that name active around Arbroath. He could have been James Guthrie the elder, his son James, the burgess married to Joneta Panter, or another local proprietor.

A later instrument provides an important limit to Marjorie’s known marriage. On 18 April 1513, Charles Brown resigned additional property for the benefit of his foundation. Sasine was then given to Charles and Margaret Ochterlony, his spouse, and the heirs born between them.

Charles was therefore married to Margaret Ochterlony by 1513. His marriage to Marjorie had ended sometime between November 1505 and April 1513, most probably through Marjorie’s death, although the later instrument does not state when or how it ended.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: Marjorie Guthrie was the wife of Charles Brown, burgess of Arbroath, on 14 November 1505.

Documented: Marjorie was named with Charles among the principal spiritual beneficiaries of his perpetual chaplainry at the altar of St Nicholas.

Strongly indicated: Guthrie was Marjorie’s own family name. Because her husband was surnamed Brown, she was not merely a woman who had acquired the Guthrie name through this marriage.

Documented: Charles possessed sufficient property and annual income to establish and support a perpetual chaplainry, placing the couple among Arbroath’s prosperous burgess community.

Documented: Charles Brown was married to Margaret Ochterlony by 18 April 1513.

Probable but not documented: Marjorie died between 1505 and 1513. Charles’s later marriage establishes that their marriage had ended, but no record reviewed explicitly records Marjorie’s death.

Possible: The neighboring James Guthrie was Marjorie’s father, brother, or another relative. Shared surname and adjoining property make the relationship worth investigating, but the evidence is geographical rather than genealogical.

Possible: Marjorie belonged to the family of Sir Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk or one of its collateral branches. The charter does not identify her as Sir Alexander’s daughter, sister, niece, or cousin.

Not established: Any part of Charles’s property portfolio came through Marjorie as inheritance or marriage property.

Not established: Charles and Marjorie had children. The charter’s reference to “successors” does not prove direct descendants.

Marjorie should remain separate from the earlier Marjorie, wife and widow of Alexander Guthrie, 1st of Kincaldrum. That woman’s birth surname is unknown, while Charles Brown’s wife was explicitly named Marjorie Guthrie. She should also remain separate from the unidentified Lady of Guthrie who held property in Arbroath in 1483.

Marjorie’s parentage, territorial branch, children, and date of death remain unresolved.

References

Guthrie Research Sketch

Henry Guthrie of Ruffys and Elizabeth Lyell

Burgess and Bailie of Arbroath Parents of John Guthrie, 1st of Colliston

Facts from the Arbroath Records

In 1509, George, Abbot of Arbroath, granted a nineteen-year tack of Mylhill to:

  • Henry Guthrie, burgess of Arbroath;
  • Elizabeth Lyell, his wife; and
  • John Guthrie, their eldest son.

The record also states that Mylhill was then held by James, Henry’s father, under a comparable term. It therefore documents three generations:

James Guthrie
→ Henry Guthrie and Elizabeth Lyell
→ John Guthrie, their eldest son

The description of John as their eldest son establishes Elizabeth as his mother. The wording also suggests that Henry and Elizabeth may have had additional children, although none are identified in the records reviewed.

In 1513, Henry served as one of the bailies of Arbroath. Acting in that official capacity, he received Charles Brown’s resignation of several tenements and annual rents and oversaw the transfer of the property.

Property descriptions from 1519–1521 identify Henry as an established landholder within Arbroath, including holdings near the Lady Chapel and in the Ratton Raw.

In 1526, the Abbey renewed the Mylhill tack for another nineteen years to Henry, Elizabeth, and John. The repetition of the same couple, eldest son, property, rent, and term confirms the continuity of the family tenancy.

Henry was also styled “in Ruffys” and appointed among the procurators for a justiciary court at Dundee. The historical designation was in Ruffys, although “of Ruffys” is a convenient modern territorial description.

In 1527, Henry was one of four “honourable men” chosen to divide a portion of North Tarry. His selection reflects local standing and knowledge of the Abbey’s lands.

On 8 June 1528, Henry, Elizabeth, and their firstborn son John received a life-tack of:

  • Ruffys;
  • the Park of Conan;
  • their garbal teinds; and
  • the croft of Mylhill.

The tack protected Elizabeth’s interests if Henry died first. Elizabeth and John were then to divide the property equally, with the survivor ultimately retaining the whole for life.

The same instrument appointed Henry and John jointly for life as mairs, coroners, and court clerks of the Arbroath regality. Their responsibilities extended to the Abbey’s justiciary, chamberlain, burgh, barony, and other courts. These were lifetime appointments rather than expressly hereditary offices.

The Transition to Colliston

In 1533, the Abbey granted a nineteen-year tack of Colliston to a John Guthrie. That entry does not repeat John’s parentage, but the territorial sequence strongly identifies him as Henry and Elizabeth’s eldest son.

In 1544, John Guthrie and Isobel Ogilvy received a feu-ferme charter of:

  • Colliston;
  • Ruffys;
  • the Park of Conan; and
  • the croft called Guthrie’s Hill.

The inclusion of Ruffys and Park of Conan directly connects their estate with the lands held by Henry, Elizabeth, and John in 1528. The continuous property succession effectively establishes that Henry and Elizabeth’s eldest son became John Guthrie, 1st of Colliston.

A special retour dated 27 June 1554 recognized another Henry Guthrie as heir to his deceased father, John Guthrie of Colliston. This provides the next documented generation:

Henry Guthrie and Elizabeth Lyell
→ John Guthrie, 1st of Colliston, and Isobel Ogilvy
→ Henry Guthrie, heir of Colliston in 1554

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: Henry Guthrie was a burgess of Arbroath by 1509 and a bailie by 1513.

Documented: Elizabeth Lyell was Henry’s wife and remained so through at least 1528.

Documented: John Guthrie was the eldest or firstborn son of both Henry and Elizabeth.

Documented: James Guthrie was Henry’s father and the preceding tenant of Mylhill.

Strongly supported: Henry’s father was the James Guthrie, burgess of Arbroath, who held Mylhill with Joneta Panter in 1501. The shared property and direct father-to-son succession make this identification highly persuasive.

Not established: Joneta Panter was Henry’s mother. She was the wife of the probable father in 1501, but the 1509 record does not identify Henry’s mother.

Strongly supported and effectively established: Henry and Elizabeth’s eldest son was John Guthrie, 1st of Colliston. The succession from Mylhill to Ruffys and Park of Conan and then to the Colliston feu estate provides a continuous territorial chain.

Ruled out: Their son John was the contemporary John Guthrie of Eassie and Hiltoun. That man was separately documented as heir of David Guthrie of Eassie.

Possible: Henry’s paternal grandparents were James Guthrie the elder and Katherine Lyn. This depends upon the probable identification of Henry’s father with their son James.

Not established: The Colliston family descended from the principal Guthrie of Kincaldrum or Guthrie of That Ilk line. Such a connection remains possible only through the unresolved identity of the earlier James Guthrie.

The securely documented ancestry of the Colliston line therefore begins with James, father of Henry, and continues through Henry Guthrie and Elizabeth Lyell to their eldest son, John Guthrie, 1st of Colliston.

References

Guthrie Research Sketch

Andrew Guthrie

Former owner of an Arbroath tenement Probably Andrew Guthrie, 3rd of Guthrie

Facts from the Arbroath Record

On 21 July 1521, Andreas Guthre—Andrew Guthrie—was named in the Abbey’s confirmation of a chaplainry founded by John Brown in Latham at the altar of St Sebastian in the parish church of St Vigeans.

Among the revenues assigned to the chaplainry was an annual rent of four shillings and eight pence from an Arbroath tenement formerly belonging to Andrew Guthrie. The property then belonged to Thomas Rany, burgess of Arbroath, and lay between the lands of St Sebastian and those of Andrew Thomson.

Andrew was therefore a previous proprietor rather than the current owner. The term translated as “formerly,” quondam, does not necessarily mean that he was deceased. The record does not state when he acquired the tenement, how it passed to Thomas Rany, or whether Andrew inherited or purchased it.

No territorial designation, occupation, spouse, parent, or child is supplied.

Cross-Source Evidence

A contemporary Andrew appears in the succession of the principal Guthrie family.

After Sir Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk and his eldest son David Guthrie died at Flodden in September 1513, Andrew Guthrie received sasine of the lands of Guthrie on 15 May 1514. The reconstructed succession identifies him as David’s son and Sir Alexander’s grandson:

Sir Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk
→ David Guthrie, apparent heir, died at Flodden
→ Andrew Guthrie, successor to Guthrie in 1514

The precise relationship language in the original sasine should still be verified, but Andrew’s succession to the principal estate is established.

On 1 June 1532, Andrew Guthrie of Guthrie granted Mariota Ogilvy one-third of Blackhall or Innerpeffer. In 1546, Alexander Guthrie, son of Andrew Guthrie of Guthrie, granted portions of Hiltoun and Easttown of Guthrie to John Guthrie of Eassie.

These records establish the territorial Andrew’s continuing identity and the next generation:

Andrew Guthrie, 3rd of Guthrie
→ Alexander Guthrie, 4th of Guthrie

Several circumstances support identifying him with the former Arbroath proprietor:

  • The chronology is fully compatible.
  • Guthrie lay only about eight miles from Arbroath.
  • The principal Guthrie family already possessed other property interests in the burgh.
  • No competing contemporary Andrew Guthrie has been identified in the Arbroath records reviewed.

The 1521 entry nevertheless lacks the decisive territorial styling “of Guthrie.”

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: An Andrew Guthrie formerly owned an Arbroath tenement from which an annual rent was paid to the St Sebastian chaplainry.

Documented: By 21 July 1521, the tenement belonged to Thomas Rany, burgess of Arbroath.

Documented outside the Abbey entry: Andrew Guthrie succeeded to the lands of Guthrie in 1514 and was styled Andrew Guthrie of Guthrie in 1532.

Documented: Alexander Guthrie of Guthrie was Andrew’s son.

Probable: The former owner of the Arbroath tenement was Andrew Guthrie, 3rd of Guthrie. The name, chronology, geography, social position, and established pattern of principal-family property ownership in Arbroath collectively make this the strongest identification.

Not established: Andrew’s tenement was the same Arbroath property previously associated with the Lady of Guthrie, Sir Alexander Guthrie, or the unnamed lord of Guthrie. The properties were described in different locations and cannot presently be traced as one continuous inheritance.

Not established by this record: Andrew’s marriage or additional children. Christian Gardyne is traditionally identified as his wife, but the Abbey entry contributes no evidence concerning that marriage.

The appropriate conclusion is:

The former Arbroath proprietor was probably Andrew Guthrie, 3rd of Guthrie, but the identification remains inferential rather than directly documented.

References

Guthrie Research Sketch

John Guthrie and His Son Hercules

Tenants of Innerlownan

Facts from the Arbroath Record

On 28 March 1526, the Abbot of Arbroath granted a nineteen-year tack of Innerlownan and its garbal teinds to:

  • John Guthrie;
  • Hercules Guthrie, his son; and
  • their approved assignees.

The record explicitly establishes the relationship:

John Guthrie
→ Hercules Guthrie, his son

John and Hercules were joint principal tenants rather than father and prospective successor. They were responsible for an annual rent of two chaldrons and eight bolls of barley and the same quantity of meal, payable at the feasts of the Purification of the Virgin Mary and Easter.

Because the Abbot intended John and Hercules to ride with him, he relieved them from the ordinary labour obligations imposed upon the Abbey’s husbandmen. They remained responsible for transporting roofing tiles from the quarry to the monastery and attending the regality courts.

These provisions suggest that John and Hercules occupied a position above that of ordinary agricultural labourers. They were nevertheless Abbey tenants, not documented hereditary owners of Innerlownan.

The Innerlownan Tenancy Family

The 1526 tack continues a much older Guthrie association with Innerlownan:

  • William of Guthrie received the property in 1418.
  • Robert Guthrie received its lands and garbal teinds in 1496.
  • James Guthrie received a nineteen-year tack in 1512.
  • John Guthrie and his son Hercules received the property jointly in 1526.

James’s nineteen-year term should ordinarily have continued until 1531. The new tack issued in 1526 therefore suggests that his interest ended early through death, resignation, assignment, or another arrangement not explained in the register.

The recurring surname and continued occupation strongly support the existence of a multigenerational Innerlownan Guthrie family. The records do not establish the precise relationships among William, Robert, James, and John.

A possible succession remains:

William Guthrie
→ Robert Guthrie
→ James Guthrie
→ John Guthrie
→ Hercules Guthrie

This is a useful reconstruction for research, but only the relationship between John and Hercules is documented.

The Later Hercules Guthrie of Lownane

A published index to the Edinburgh Commissariot records identifies Hercules Guthrie of Lownane and Over-Dysart, whose testament was recorded on 27 July 1565.

The same index records the testament of Jonet Anderson, relict of Hercules Guthrie of Lownane and Over-Dysart, on 28 January 1582–83. Jonet was therefore his widow.

The combination of:

  • the highly distinctive name Hercules Guthrie;
  • the identical Lownane territorial association;
  • and the compatible thirty-nine-year interval between 1526 and 1565

makes it strongly probable that the testator was the son of John named in the Abbey tack.

If the identification is correct, Hercules continued the family’s association with Lownane into the 1560s and also acquired an interest or residence at Over-Dysart. The testament index does not explain the nature of either holding or identify his children.

Possible Connection to the Colliston Family

Only one month after the Innerlownan tack, another Abbey record named John Guthrie as the eldest son of Henry Guthrie and Elizabeth Lyell in the renewal of their Mylhill tenancy.

That John later became John Guthrie, 1st of Colliston. The close chronology and shared Abbey context make it possible that he was also the Innerlownan tenant and father of Hercules.

If the two Johns were identical, the resulting reconstruction would be:

Henry Guthrie and Elizabeth Lyell
→ John Guthrie, 1st of Colliston
→ Hercules Guthrie of Lownane and Over-Dysart

This would make Hercules an additional son of the first Colliston laird and a brother of Henry Guthrie, who succeeded at Colliston.

The theory remains unproven. The Innerlownan tack does not identify John as Henry’s son, an Arbroath burgess, or a member of the Colliston family. Hercules is not presently documented as an heir or landholder at Colliston.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: John Guthrie was the father of Hercules Guthrie.

Documented: John and Hercules jointly received a nineteen-year tack of Innerlownan and its garbal teinds on 28 March 1526.

Documented: Their obligations included substantial grain rents, riding with the Abbot, transporting tiles, and attending the regality courts.

Strongly supported: John and Hercules belonged to the established Guthrie tenancy family associated with Innerlownan since at least the fifteenth century.

Probable: The Hercules named in 1526 was the later Hercules Guthrie of Lownane and Over-Dysart, whose testament was recorded in 1565.

Probable if that identification is correct: Hercules married Jonet Anderson, who was identified as his widow in 1582–83.

Possible: John succeeded James Guthrie through inheritance or family assignment. Their exact relationship is not stated.

Possible but unproven: John was the eldest son of Henry Guthrie and Elizabeth Lyell and later became John Guthrie, 1st of Colliston.

Possible: John or Hercules was closely related to Margaret Guthrie, wife of Sir Robert Carnegie, who was traditionally described as a daughter of Guthrie of Lunan. The 1526 tack does not identify her father or connect her directly with either tenant.

Unresolved: John’s parentage, wife, date of death, and relationship to the earlier Innerlownan tenants.

Unresolved: Hercules’s mother, children, precise rights in Over-Dysart, and date of death.

The secure pedigree supplied by the Arbroath Register is therefore:

John Guthrie, tenant of Innerlownan
→ Hercules Guthrie, probably later of Lownane and Over-Dysart

References

Guthrie Research Sketch

Alexander Guthrie of Kinblethmont and Janet Strachan

Joint holders of the Kinblethmont garbal teinds Alexander served as a special bailie of Arbroath Abbey

Facts from the Arbroath Records

On 9 May 1526, the Abbot of Arbroath granted a nineteen-year tack of the garbal teinds of Kinblethmont, in the parish of Inverkeilor, to:

  • Alexander Guthrie of Kinblethmont;
  • Janet Strachan, his wife; and
  • their approved assignees, provided those assignees were not of higher status.

The couple were to pay annually five bolls of wheat, eight bolls of barley, and twenty-eight bolls of oatmeal.

Janet was therefore a joint grantee with a recognized legal and economic interest in the tack. The record does not identify her parents or state that Alexander acquired his Kinblethmont association through her.

The grant concerned the garbal teinds—the grain tithes—rather than the complete ownership of Kinblethmont. Alexander’s territorial designation establishes a substantial association with the place, but the tack alone does not prove that he owned the entire barony heritably.

On 31 August 1527, Alexander appeared in two precepts of sasine. In the first, he and Thomas Lindsay of Lethnot were appointed the Abbot’s bailies to deliver sasine by the symbolic transfer of earth, stone, and a sheaf of grain. Alexander was named among the special bailies in a second transaction on the same day.

These were appointments for particular property transfers. They show that Alexander was trusted to exercise local legal authority but do not establish that he held a permanent Abbey bailieship.

Cross-Source Evidence

William Guthrie of Kinblethmont had served as a juror in an Abbey inquest in 1494. Alexander probably belonged to the same Kinblethmont family or territorial succession, but no reviewed record identifies him as William’s son or heir.

Alexander continued to be styled of Kinblethmont in Great Seal charters witnessed in 1533 and 1535.

A particularly valuable charter was executed at Elcho Priory on 22 April 1540 and confirmed under the Great Seal in 1542. One of its witnesses was:

Thomas Guthrie, one of the sons of Alexander Guthrie of Kinblethmont

The Latin wording, uno filiorum Alexandri Guthre de Kynblathmoth, documents Thomas as Alexander’s son and indicates that Alexander had more than one son. It does not identify Thomas as the eldest son.

Because the charter names only Alexander as Thomas’s parent, it does not directly establish Janet Strachan as Thomas’s mother. She is the strongest candidate because she was Alexander’s documented wife in 1526, but an earlier marriage cannot presently be excluded.

In 1543, Alexander Guthrie in Kinblethmont and a David Guthrie were included with others in a remission for absence from a convention at Glasgow. The entry does not explain David’s relationship to Alexander. Another Great Seal charter names Alexander of Kinblethmont as a witness in June 1545, extending his documented activity through at least that year.

In 1569, a Thomas Guthrie of Kinblethmont was bound under surety not to assemble the king’s lieges or trouble Alexander Whitelaw. The unusual combination of name and territorial designation strongly supports identifying him as Alexander’s documented son from the 1540 charter, although the later record does not repeat his parentage.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: Alexander Guthrie was styled “of Kinblethmont” by May 1526.

Documented: Janet Strachan was Alexander’s wife and joint holder with him of the Kinblethmont garbal teinds.

Documented: Alexander acted as one of the Abbot’s special bailies in two sasine transactions in 1527.

Documented: Thomas Guthrie was one of Alexander’s sons. The wording indicates that Alexander had at least one additional son whose identity remains unresolved.

Probable: Janet Strachan was Thomas’s mother, but the record identifying Thomas names only Alexander as his parent.

Strongly supported: The Thomas Guthrie of Kinblethmont recorded in 1569 was Alexander’s documented son and probable successor in the Kinblethmont designation.

Probable: Alexander belonged to the same Kinblethmont succession as William Guthrie of Kinblethmont, documented in 1494.

Unresolved: Whether William was Alexander’s father, grandfather, uncle, or another relative.

Not established: A genealogical connection between the Kinblethmont family and the Guthries of Kincaldrum, Guthrie of That Ilk, or Colliston.

The developing family reconstruction is therefore:

William Guthrie of Kinblethmont
→ probable but undefined relationship
Alexander Guthrie of Kinblethmont and Janet Strachan
→ Thomas Guthrie, one of Alexander’s sons and probably later of Kinblethmont
→ at least one additional son, identity unknown

References

Guthrie Research Sketch

Francis Guthrie and Matilda Sturrock

Life-tenants of two acres in Pundarlawfield, 1534

Facts from the Arbroath Records

On 6 February 1534, the Abbot granted Francis Gothray—Francis Guthrie—described as his servant, a portion or rood of land in the Abbey’s almonry garden. The property had formerly been occupied by George Boys.

The grant extended to Francis’s heirs and assignees. In return, he was to pay six shillings Scots annually to the almoner and attend all courts held in the almonry.

The designation servitor suus establishes that Francis served the Abbot in some capacity. It does not define his precise duties or necessarily imply menial employment. His service may have been domestic, administrative, agricultural, or connected with the management of Abbey property.

Two days later, on 8 February 1534, the Abbot granted a life-tack to:

  • Francis Gothra;
  • Matilda Sturrock, his wife;
  • their coadjutors; and
  • approved assignees who were not of higher status than the named tenants.

The property consisted of two acres in Pundarlawfield, together with their garbal teinds. Patrick Norrowa, whose surname may also be rendered Norway, had formerly occupied the land.

Francis and Matilda were to pay two bolls of clean, pure, and dry barley annually. The Abbot reserved the teinds of flax and hemp.

The two grants represented different interests:

  • The almonry-garden property was granted to Francis, his heirs, and assignees.
  • The Pundarlawfield acres were granted to Francis and Matilda as life-tenants.

Matilda was therefore a joint grantee of the agricultural holding, but she was not named in Francis’s earlier almonry-garden grant.

Identification of the Two Francis Guthries

The Francis Gothray recorded on 6 February and Francis Gothra recorded on 8 February were almost certainly the same man.

The evidence includes:

  • the rare personal name Francis within contemporary Guthrie records;
  • closely related surname forms;
  • the same Abbey administration;
  • holdings in or around Arbroath; and
  • an interval of only two days between the grants.

Together, the records show that Francis was already in the Abbot’s service when he and Matilda received their life-tack.

Related Sturrock Evidence

An earlier Abbey tack dated 16 March 1509 identifies another local Sturrock family:

Alexander Sturrock and Alison, his wife
→ John Sturrock, Alexander’s son, and Margaret Orkney, John’s wife

Alexander and Alison held one-quarter of Craquhy for life, while John and Margaret held another one-eighth.

This family’s established relationship with Arbroath Abbey makes it possible that Matilda belonged to the same Sturrock group. The chronology would allow her to have been a daughter or other relative of Alexander or John, but no record reviewed identifies her parentage.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: Francis Guthrie was in the personal service of the Abbot of Arbroath in February 1534.

Documented: On 6 February, Francis received a separate portion of the almonry garden for himself, his heirs, and assignees.

Documented: Matilda Sturrock was Francis’s wife by 8 February 1534.

Documented: Francis and Matilda jointly received a life-tack of two acres in Pundarlawfield with the garbal teinds.

Documented: The annual rent was two bolls of barley, with the flax and hemp teinds reserved to the Abbot.

Strongly supported: Francis Gothray, the Abbot’s servant, and Francis Gothra, Matilda’s husband, were the same man.

Not established: Matilda possessed any legal interest in Francis’s almonry-garden property.

Not established: The Pundarlawfield tack automatically passed in full to whichever spouse survived the other. The abbreviated record contains no detailed survivorship provision.

Possible: Matilda was related to Alexander Sturrock, his son John, or another member of the Craquhy tenancy family.

Possible: Francis belonged to one of the established Guthrie families already holding Abbey property around Arbroath. No parent, sibling, or territorial branch is identified.

Not established: Francis and Matilda had children. The reference to coadjutors and assignees does not document descendants.

Ruled out chronologically: Francis was the seventeenth-century Francis Guthrie of Gagie and later of Guthrie, who lived approximately a century later.

Francis’s Abbey service and two nearly simultaneous property grants suggest that he was an established and trusted member of the Abbey community. His parentage, connection to the other Arbroath Guthries, children, and later history remain unresolved.

References

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Guthrie Research Sketch

Alexander Guthrie of Grandon and His Firstborn Son Alexander

Joint tenants of Mondornach in Aberdeenshire, 1535

Facts from the Arbroath Record

On 16 February 1535, the Abbot of Arbroath granted a nineteen-year tack to:

  • Alexander Guthrie of Grandon
  • Alexander Guthrie, his firstborn son
  • Their approved assignees and subtenants, provided they were not of higher status than the named tenants

The grant comprised the lands of Mondornach, situated within the sheriffdom of Aberdeen and the barony of Fyvie.

The annual rent was £6 13s. 8d. Scots, together with the customary services due from the property.

The tack also included:

  • Permission to construct a mill at Mondornach for the tenants’ own profit
  • The rights of wrack and wair—the legal right to collect wreckage and seaweed from the shore

The mill licence suggests that father and son were expected to invest in and develop the holding. Their authority to introduce subtenants also indicates that the property could support occupants beneath the principal tenants.

The Documented Family Relationship

The Latin description filius eius primogenitus explicitly identifies the younger Alexander as the elder Alexander’s firstborn son:

Alexander Guthrie of Grandon
→ Alexander Guthrie, his firstborn son

“Firstborn son” establishes the younger Alexander’s birth order among his father’s sons. It may indicate that additional sons existed, but it does not prove that any younger brothers survived.

His inclusion as a joint tenant probably helped preserve continuity if his father died during the nineteen-year term. It does not establish that he was already an adult or that he would automatically become the sole tenant.

Territorial Context and Identity

The elder Alexander’s designation “of Grandon” establishes a recognized territorial association with that place. It does not, by itself, prove that he owned Grandon heritably or was its laird.

Historical forms of Grandhome or Grandholm, near Aberdeen, reportedly include Granden, Grandown, Grandoun, and Grandon. Grandhome is therefore a plausible identification, but the Abbey record does not establish it conclusively.

Mondornach may similarly represent the place later known as Mondurno or Mundurno. Both proposed place-name identifications require confirmation through contemporary Aberdeenshire records.

The two Alexanders should remain distinct from:

  • Alexander Guthrie of Kinblethmont, husband of Janet Strachan
  • Contemporary Alexanders belonging to the principal Guthrie of That Ilk and Kincaldrum families

No reviewed record connects the Grandon household with either Angus family.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: Alexander Guthrie was territorially styled “of Grandon” in 1535.

Documented: He was the father of another Alexander Guthrie, explicitly described as his firstborn son.

Documented: Father and son jointly received a nineteen-year tack of Mondornach.

Documented: Mondornach lay within the sheriffdom of Aberdeen and the barony of Fyvie.

Documented: The tack included permission to construct a mill for the tenants’ profit and the rights of wrack and wair.

Strongly supported: The younger Alexander was included to provide generational continuity within the tenancy.

Possible: Grandon was a historical form of Grandhome or Grandholm.

Possible: The two Alexanders represented an established northeastern Guthrie branch.

Not established: The elder Alexander was the hereditary proprietor or laird of Grandon.

Not established: Either man was identical with Alexander Guthrie of Kinblethmont or an Alexander of the principal Angus family.

Unresolved: The elder Alexander’s wife, parents, siblings, and date of death.

Unresolved: The younger Alexander’s mother, age, marriage, descendants, and later succession.

The secure pedigree presently extends only through these two generations:

Alexander Guthrie of Grandon
→ Alexander Guthrie, his firstborn son

References

Guthrie Research Sketch

The Lord of Guthrie, Marketgate Landholder

Almost certainly Sir Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk

Facts from the Arbroath Record

On 18 April 1513, Charles Brown, burgess of Arbroath, resigned additional properties and annual rents for the support of his chaplainry at the altar of St Nicholas.

The resignation was made into the hands of Henry Guthrie, bailie of Arbroath, who formally delivered sasine. James Guthrie appeared among the witnesses.

One of the revenues was an annual rent of eight shillings and eight pence charged upon a tenement on the east side of the Marketgate of Arbroath. The tenement lay between:

  • the lands of Patrick Seras on the north;
  • the lands of the lord of Guthrie on the east; and
  • the lands of Sir David Scot on the west.

The lord of Guthrie was not a participant in the transaction. His land was mentioned because it formed one of the legal boundaries of the tenement.

The 1513 instrument survives within a confirmation issued by David Beaton, Abbot of Arbroath, on 13 April 1532. The landholder’s identity must therefore be determined from the date of the original instrument—not from the later confirmation.

Identification with Sir Alexander Guthrie

The historical form dominus de Guthre means the lord or laird of Guthrie. It identifies the territorial holder of Guthrie rather than a Lord of Parliament or hereditary peer.

On 18 April 1513, the principal estate was still held by Sir Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk. The succession provides a decisive chronology:

18 April 1513
Sir Alexander was living and remained laird of Guthrie.

9 September 1513
Sir Alexander and his eldest son David Guthrie died at the Battle of Flodden.

15 May 1514
David’s son Andrew Guthrie succeeded to the lands of Guthrie.

Andrew cannot therefore have been the lord named in the April 1513 instrument.

Other records strengthen the identification. In 1501, Sir Alexander was described both as Sir Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk and as the Laird of Guthrie. In 1505, an earlier Arbroath Abbey instrument explicitly named Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk, knight, as the owner of adjoining land in the Burrowrudis of Arbroath.

The combination of title, date, succession, and earlier Arbroath property ownership leaves no realistic competing candidate. The absence of Alexander’s Christian name from the Marketgate boundary clause is the only reason the identification is not literally explicit.

The Arbroath Properties

The 1505 and 1513 entries show that Sir Alexander possessed property interests in Arbroath during the closing years of his life:

  • 1505: Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk, knight, owned land adjoining property in the Burrowrudis.
  • 1513: The lord of Guthrie owned land adjoining a tenement on the east side of the Marketgate.

The records do not establish that these were the same property. Sir Alexander may have owned two separate holdings, or the descriptions may refer to different portions of a larger or reconfigured property.

Neither holding can presently be identified securely with the Arbroath property associated with the Lady of Guthrie in 1483 or the tenement formerly owned by Andrew Guthrie before 1521.

Genealogical Significance and Assessment

Documented: A person styled dominus de Guthre owned land adjoining a Marketgate tenement on 18 April 1513.

Documented: Henry Guthrie acted as bailie in the transaction, and James Guthrie appeared among the witnesses.

Documented outside this entry: Sir Alexander Guthrie remained the territorial holder of Guthrie in April 1513.

Almost certain: The unnamed lord of Guthrie was Sir Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk.

Ruled out chronologically: The landholder was Andrew Guthrie, who did not succeed to Guthrie until 1514.

Strong supporting evidence: Sir Alexander had already been explicitly identified as an Arbroath landholder in 1505 and was elsewhere called the Laird of Guthrie.

Not established: The Marketgate and Burrowrudis references described the same property.

Not established: The Marketgate property later passed to Sir Alexander’s grandson Andrew.

This entry does not introduce a separate unidentified Guthrie. It should be consolidated with the established profile of Sir Alexander Guthrie of That Ilk as one of the last known records of his property interests before his death at Flodden.

References

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