3B: William Guthrie & Ann Hunter / Jacobina McClure
Guthrie Family Group 3 · Branch B
William Guthrie
Ann Hunter & Jacobina McClure
Sidehead · Harperland · Auchans · Crossburn
Ayrshire, Scotland
William Guthrie’s family grew out of the farming communities of Ayrshire. His children’s lives reached from Harperland and Crossburn to the estates of Eglinton and Stair, the professions of Edinburgh and Glasgow, and families in New Zealand and Chile. Parish records, family memorials, estate papers and DNA evidence bring these branches together.
William was baptized at Craigie on 27 February 1763, the son of George Guthrie at Sidehead. He married first Ann Hunter and later Jacobina McClure. The earlier pedigree is carried here as a three-generation extension provisionally accepted through triangulated autosomal DNA, with the supporting records and remaining uncertainties explained below.
The Family at a Glance
William Guthrie · baptized 1763–1844
- Parents
- George Guthrie and, in the provisionally accepted reconstruction, Margaret Bowie.
- Baptism
- 27 February 1763, Craigie; son of George at Sidehead.
- Work
- Farmer at Harperland and later associated with Auchans and Crossburn.
- Death
- 29 May 1844 at Auchans; burial reported 3 June at Dundonald.
Ann Hunter · about 1763–1801
- Parents
- Not established.
- Marriage
- Before the first known child, about 1788; a marriage entry has not been located.
- Children
- George, John, William, Ann, Margaret and James.
- Death
- 7 November 1801; interment reported 10 November at Dundonald.
Her approximate birth year comes from age 38 in the supplied memorial transcription. The checked online memorial has no photograph; that does not establish that a stone never existed.
Jacobina McClure · 1770–1835
- Parents
- Robert McClure and Agnes Thompson.
- Birth
- 1770, Irvine, in the family records.
- Marriage
- 17 January 1803, Dundonald.
- Children
- George, Agnes Thomson, Robert, Jacobina and David.
- Death
- 21 October 1835 at Crossburn; burial reported 26 October at Irvine.
William’s eleven children belong to two family groups. Dates described as baptisms are not automatically their dates of birth. The two sons named George are kept distinct.
Children of William Guthrie & Ann Hunter
| Child Page | Birth / Baptism | Marriage & Later Life |
|---|---|---|
| George Guthrie · c1788–1800 | About 1788; no baptism located | Died 20 October 1800, aged about 12; interred 23 October. |
| John Guthrie · 1790–1834 | Born 10 February; baptized 15 February 1790, Mauchline | Proposed identification with Captain John of Turnberry; Janet Lenox and Isabella Tennant families. |
| William Guthrie · 1791–1856 | Baptized 31 October 1791, Dundonald | Son James with Susan Good; died unmarried, 26 March 1856. |
| Ann Guthrie · 1794–1835 | Baptized 24 February 1794, Dundonald | Married George Johnston, 17 January 1820; death reported 28 January 1835. |
| Margaret Guthrie · 1795–1875 | Baptized 4 September 1795, Dundonald | Married Robert Pettigrew, 12 December 1836; died 23 January 1875. |
| James Guthrie · 1797–1863 | Baptized 19 October 1797, Dundonald | Unmarried annuitant; died 22 April 1863 at Loans. |
Children of William Guthrie & Jacobina McClure
| Child Page | Birth / Baptism | Marriage & Later Life |
|---|---|---|
| George Guthrie · 1803–1868 | Born 10 September; baptized 16 September 1803 | Married Margaret Cumming McDowall, 7 October 1834; died 18 January 1868. |
| Agnes Thomson Guthrie · 1806–1885 | Baptized 19 February 1806, Dundonald | Married James Fergusson, 20 January 1835; died February 1885, with the day discussed on her page. |
| Robert Guthrie · 1808–1887 | Born 23 June; baptized 28 June 1808 | Married Catherine Annandale Hunter, 11 June 1837; died 24 March 1887. |
| Jacobina Guthrie · 1810–1890 | Born 9 June; baptized 18 June 1810 | Married William Rankin, 11 August 1834; died 3 May 1890 in Akaroa, New Zealand. |
| David Guthrie · 1813–1887 | Born 20 May; baptized 2 June 1813 | Married Mary McDowall, then Eliza Ker Laurie; died 28 July 1887. |
Guthrie DNA Project Participation
| Family line | Y-DNA | Big Y | Autosomal |
|---|---|---|---|
| George Guthrie · c1788–1800 | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| John Guthrie · 1790–1834 | — | — | — |
| William Guthrie · 1791–1856 | ✓ | — | ✓ |
| Ann Guthrie · 1794–1835 | N/A | N/A | — |
| Margaret Guthrie · 1795–1875 | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| James Guthrie · 1797–1863 | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| George Guthrie · 1803–1868 | — | — | — |
| Agnes Thomson Guthrie · 1806–1885 | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Robert Guthrie · 1808–1887 | — | — | — |
| Jacobina Guthrie · 1810–1890 | N/A | N/A | — |
| David Guthrie · 1813–1887 | N/A | N/A | N/A |
✓ = participation documented for this line and test; — = none documented in the reviewed project material; N/A = no applicable direct paternal line or no known descendants. A dash does not mean that no descendant has ever tested.
Historical Highlights
Agriculture connects much of this family’s surviving history. William of Harperland subscribed to Janet Little’s Poetical Works in 1792. Horse-tax entries, agricultural reports and newspaper notices place him within a network of improving farmers. His son Robert continued that work at Crossburn, while George became chamberlain to the Earl of Stair and David served as a banker and provost in Stranraer.
The family’s history also includes early deaths, unmarried households and migration. Its separate child pages preserve these lives without treating marriage, parenthood or a surviving line of descendants as the measure of a person’s place in the family.
Family Timeline
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27 Feb 1763
William’s baptism at Craigie
William was baptized as the son of George Guthrie at Sidehead. The entry continues across two pages; it gives no separate birth date and does not name his mother.
Craigie OPR 584/10/103–104.
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Before c1788
Marriage to Ann Hunter
William and Ann’s marriage predates their first known child. The date is inferred from the family chronology; a marriage entry has not been located.
Family reconstruction; Guthrie–Hunter marriage still unlocated.
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c1788–1797
The Hunter household
George, John, William, Ann, Margaret and James belong to the first household. George’s approximate birth year comes from his memorial age. The other children’s birth or baptism entries are distinguished in the family table.
Dundonald family memorial transcription; Mauchline and Dundonald parish records listed on the child pages.
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20 Oct 1800
The death of the elder George
The family memorial gives George’s death as 20 October, aged twelve. The Dundonald register records his interment on 23 October and names William Guthrie, tenant in Harperland, and Ann Hunter as his parents.
Dundonald OPR 590/20/154; supplied memorial transcription.
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7 Nov 1801
Ann Hunter’s death
The supplied memorial transcription reports Ann’s death on 7 November, aged 38, with interment reported on 10 November. Her approximate birth year of 1763 is calculated from that age.
Supplied Dundonald memorial transcription; Find a Grave memorial 211901992 has no photograph.
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17 Jan 1803
Marriage to Jacobina McClure
William married Jacobina McClure at Dundonald. The family records identify her as a daughter of Robert McClure and Agnes Thompson of Irvine.
Dundonald marriage entry and McClure family packet.
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1803–1813
The McClure household
George, Agnes Thomson, Robert, Jacobina and David completed the eleven-child family. Robert’s original entry gives birth on 23 June 1808 and baptism on 28 June, correcting the earlier readings.
Dundonald parish entries; Robert: OPR 590/10/246, manuscript p. 120.
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21 Oct 1835
Jacobina’s death at Crossburn
The family account records Jacobina’s death at Crossburn on 21 October 1835, with burial reported at Irvine on 26 October.
McClure family packet and legacy family account.
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6 Jun 1841
William and James at Loans
The census page headed Troon records Wm Guthrie, farmer, aged 70, and James Guthrie, aged 35, at Loans. Both are marked as born in the county. Relationships are not stated. These ages disagree with the accepted baptisms and remain explicit discrepancies.
Original 1841 census 590/3/7, manuscript p. 7.
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29 May 1844
William’s death at Auchans
William died at Auchans on 29 May 1844; burial is reported at Dundonald on 3 June. His children’s separate pages continue the family story in Scotland and overseas.
Family memorial and legacy family account.
Farming, books and the Harperland records
The 1792 subscribers to Janet Little’s poems include William Guthrie at Harperland. A separate “Mr. J. Guthrie” at Dollars should not be assigned to this family without additional evidence.
The legacy research cites the 1797–1798 farm-horse tax rolls, including volume 7, image 210. It also preserves a volume 1 reference whose original hyperlink is malformed. The Ayrshire land-tax entry names Alexander Fairlie as the Harperland landowner: it is contextual evidence for the property, not proof that William owned it.
The Star of 14 April 1801 reports a ploughing award to John Smith, servant to William Guthrie of Harperland. The award belongs to Smith. The Agricultural Magazine in 1809 reports a first premium for William’s cattle breeding. William Aiton’s General View of the Agriculture of the County of Ayr (1811) discusses William’s preference for greater freedom in crop rotation on the Fairlie estate of Sir William Cunningham.
The “Centenary History of Troon and District, 1805–1895” extract associated with Dykes, the Kilmarnock Standard and Ayr Library was supplied through Sharyn Guthrie’s research and discussed in the 2019 theories article. Retain it as attributed historical context. Its reported 1847 death for William, and an impossible parentage involving Alexander born in 1783, are not adopted. The related paper titled “Answers to Queries Regarding Leveling and Straightening of Lands” remains a useful agricultural research lead.
The 1841 household and William’s age
The original census page is 590/3/7, headed Troon, with the household at Loans. It lists Wm Guthrie, 70, farmer, and James Guthrie, 35, both marked as born in the county. The 1841 form does not state relationships.
William’s accepted identification with the child baptized in 1763 is retained, while the age discrepancy is made explicit. He would have been about 78; ordinary five-year age rounding does not explain an entry of 70. James’s recorded age also differs from his 1797 baptism. The census must not be used to create an exact 1771 birth date or to replace the baptism.
Explore the Research
DNA & the Family Line
The documented paternal test line runs through William Guthrie (baptized 1791), his son James (1814–1889), and James’s son Robert (1857–1920), who settled in New Zealand. The legacy project record lists kit 319359 at Y-111 with Family Finder, and Family Finder kits 402163 and 632008 in this line. Y-111 is an STR test. A Big Y test for these kits is not established by the material reviewed here.
The legacy comparison described a 106/111 match to the group modal and used the labels R-M269 and R-BY12113. These are retained as historical project notes, not a new audit of current test results. A previously discussed Time Tree estimate of a fifteenth-century common ancestor is not proof of a named ancestor or of the Pitforthie hypothesis.
Susan Good’s daughter Susan, born in 1812, is no longer assigned as William’s biological daughter on the strength of her baptism. Her later death-register transcription names Allan Galt as father. The legacy kit B882221 follows the Susan–Arthur–Calderwood line and therefore requires separate ancestral analysis; it is not evidence for direct Guthrie paternal descent.
The earlier three-generation extension remains the project’s provisionally accepted autosomal reconstruction. Tree tags without an identified descent path are not converted into new participation check marks. Collateral Y-DNA and Big Y testing could help compare the proposed earlier Ayrshire lines and the wider GFG3 family.
Participation summary based on the reviewed branch material, 6 November 2026. Current kit levels and SNP placements require the project’s current results; no new test is inferred from a haplogroup label.
The provisionally accepted earlier generations
The project provisionally accepts three earlier generations on the basis of triangulated autosomal DNA evidence considered with the family’s documentary reconstruction. This extension remains explicitly provisional. A collateral paternal-line Y-DNA/Big Y comparison would provide a different and valuable test of the proposed connections.
The working sequence is George Guthrie & Isobald Hewie → John Guthrie & Janet Howie → George Guthrie & Margaret Bowie → William Guthrie. Shared DNA supports investigation of ancestry; it does not by itself identify every parent in the sequence.
| Generation | Working identification | Evidence and limits |
|---|---|---|
| George Guthrie & Isobald Hewie | George, about 1636–1712; Isobald, 1652–1692 | The 1913 memorial transcription reports George’s death on 21 September 1712, aged 76. About 1636 replaces the unsupported 1660 estimate. The physical stone has not been examined in this review. |
| John Guthrie & Janet Howie | John, baptized 30 November 1690; died 1743; Craigie and Riccarton connection | Craigie entry records names entered for proclamation on 15 January 1725. The journal’s printed memorial reading gives John’s death as 1 March 1743; an older 4 March reading remains a transcription discrepancy. |
| George Guthrie & Margaret Bowie | George, baptized 31 March 1728; died 1802; Margaret, 1733–1814 | The family reconstruction includes Anna (baptized 7 February 1757), Janet (29 October 1758), John (22 March 1761) and William (27 February 1763). Earlier generation links retain the project’s provisional status. |
| William Guthrie | Baptized 27 February 1763, Craigie; died 29 May 1844 | The original entry and continuation identify him as George Guthrie’s son at Sidehead. The baptism does not name his mother or give a separate birth date. |
The Ayrshire OPR search using the prefixes “Geo” and “Gut” for 1634–1639 returned no matching Ayrshire baptism. The single Scotland-wide result was George Guthree, dated 31 January 1634 in Edinburgh, son of Alexander Guthree and Jeane Gilchryst (685/1, 40/192). No connection to this Ayrshire family has been established. That search result is not proof that no baptism occurred, and the Edinburgh child should not be substituted.
The earliest George cannot be made a son of the Rev. John Guthrie of Tarbolton, born in 1633, on the adopted chronology. A descent from the Pitforthie family, and a named common ancestor shared with the American Branch A, remain unproved.
The memorial account appears in the 1913 Journal of the Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead, Ireland, vol. IX, pp. 407–408. Lord Oranmore and Browne supplied the description and reported moving the marker from Scotland to Castle MacGarrett in 1907. The journal is the available witness to the inscription, not a newly inspected original stone.
The family account reports George Guthrie’s death on 21 March 1802 and Margaret Bowie’s on 4 September 1814, with a memorial erected in 1832. Their son John, baptized in 1761, is reconstructed as the husband of Helen Hutchison, married 30 July 1782 and died 23 January 1827. A son Alexander was baptized at Riccarton on 30 April 1783. These collateral records are important to the accepted working pedigree and should be correlated through original parish and estate evidence.
The supplied earlier-generation packet preserves the John Guthrie baptism and memorial transcriptions alongside the sasine. They are retained at their actual evidentiary level: the 1739/1740 land-security document directly locates John at Sidehead but does not independently prove each parent–child step.
John Guthrie’s proclamation and Sidehead sasine
The Craigie marriage register, 584/10/268, records John Guthrie “here” and Janet Howie of Riccarton entering their names for proclamation on 15 January 1725. This is evidence of the proclamation process; it does not independently establish the wedding date.
The photographed sasine in RS14/10 identifies “John Guthrie in Sydehead of Cairnhill.” The instrument is dated 6 November 1739 and was registered at Ayr on 5 January 1740. It concerns a heritable bond securing 2,200 merks Scots, with annualrent of 110 merks, against property described as Mossyde and associated ground in Craigie parish.
The named son-and-heir relationship is between Alexander Thomson and his deceased father, also Alexander Thomson. It is not a Guthrie parentage statement. The document does not name John’s wife, parents or children, and it does not establish that John purchased Cairnhill outright.
Reading & Sources
The records below distinguish original entries, attributed transcriptions and later accounts. Linked repositories may require an account or subscription. A link is a locator, not a claim that every underlying image has been independently examined.
- Craigie OPR births, 584/10/103–104: William’s baptism, 27 February 1763; both pages directly reviewed. Related sibling entries: 584/10/94, /96 and /100.
- Dundonald OPR births and marriages: the Hunter and McClure family entries, including the 1803 marriage and the separately cited records on each child page.
- 1841 census, 590/3/7, manuscript page 7: Loans household under Troon; original reviewed.
- Dundonald OPR 590/10/270, manuscript p. 143: Susan Good’s children Susan (1812) and James (1814), both baptized 21 March 1814; original reviewed.
- Craigie OPR marriages, 584/10/268: proclamation entry, 15 January 1725. Ayr sasines, RS14/10, photographed leaves marked 2–3: instrument 6 November 1739, registered 5 January 1740.
- Journal of the Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead, Ireland, vol. IX (1913), pp. 407–408; contributor Lord Oranmore and Browne.
- Dundonald memorial inscription supplied in the family research packet: Ann Hunter, age 38, died 7 November 1801. The online memorial lacks a stone photograph.
- William Aiton, General View of the Agriculture of the County of Ayr (1811), A. Napier; bibliographic reference retained, replacement digital locator still required.
- Sharyn Guthrie’s contributed family and agricultural research, including the Dykes/Troon history extract; Ann Guthrie’s compiled family records and the two 2019 GFG3 theories articles.
Research links
- Guthrie Research Tree · Family Hub
- GFG3 Theories – Part 1
- Guthrie Family Group 3 · FTDNA Time Tree
- Scotland’s People
- Scotland, National Probate Index – 1878
- Scotland, National Probate Index – 1885
- Scotland, National Probate Index – 1887
- Scotland, National Probate Index – 1891
- New Zealand, Cemetery Records – Addington Cemetery, Canterbury
- Scotland, National Probate Index – 1887
- Scotland, National Probate Index – 1888
- Annie Hunter Guthrie
- George Guthrie
- Capt. John Guthrie 1790-1834
- Robert Guthrie and Catherine Annandale Hunter
- George Guthrie and Margaret Cumming McDowell
- Little, Janet, 1759-1813. The Poetical Works of Janet Little, the Scotch Milkmaid. Air: Printed by John & Peter Wilson, 1792.
- Farm Horse Tax Rolls 1797-1798 Volume 7
- Land Tax Rolls for Ayrshire, Volume 05
- Star (London) – Tuesday – 14 April 1801
- The Agricultural Magazine, Or, Farmers’ Monthly Journal of Husbandry and Rural Affairs: Including Occasional Observations on Gardening.
- GFG3 Theories Part I
- Earlier Guthrie memorial · 1913 journal, pp. 407–408
- GFG3 Theories · Part 2
- Harperland · aerial photograph
- Troon & Ayrshire Family History Society · publications
Most Wanted Documents
| Record to verify | Why it matters |
|---|---|
| Captain John’s identity | Find a service, estate, family or marriage record explicitly connecting the Turnberry captain with William and Ann’s son baptized at Mauchline. Keep the proposed identification qualified. |
| Ann Hunter and Ann Johnston | A Guthrie–Hunter marriage remains unlocated. Ann Johnston’s 28 January 1835 death is reported through the Clearie compilation and 2019 article; the original newspaper title, issue and notice remain to be established. |
| Age and date disagreements | Compare Agnes Fergusson’s 16/18 February 1885 death readings; Agnes Guthrie’s May/July 1847 birth readings; and later statutory ages against the earlier birth records. |
| The Rankin family | Verify William G. Rankin’s 1881 New Zealand marriage, the Grant/Gibbs names, and Agnes Rankin’s original January 1838 entry. Trace children whose later lives are unknown without treating census absence as proof of death. |
| Estate and collateral links | Read full estates for Robert of Crossburn (1887, SC6/46/19) and Jacobina Rankin (1891, SC70/4/253 and SC70/1/296), and correlate the George Guthrie–Margaret Bowie collateral family. |
| Overseas and agricultural records | Pursue Stair Guthrie’s Chilean marriage and children’s records, and the original Dykes/Troon history and agricultural-paper references when access permits. |
Help Preserve the Ayrshire Family’s Story
The Ayrshire family brings together the work of farmers, estate managers, ministers, merchants and emigrants. Its history is strongest when the records remain visible alongside the family story. The pages below this hub preserve the eleven children’s separate lives while leaving room for the evidence still to be found.
Family Bibles, tenancy papers, estate correspondence and early memorial transcriptions may preserve relationships that the parish entries leave unstated. If you have a record connecting the Sidehead generations, naming Ann Hunter’s parents, or identifying one of these households, please share the complete image and its source citation.
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