RMS – Volume 11
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RMS · Volume XI
Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum
Volume XI follows Guthrie people and properties through the Restoration years, preserving unusually strong evidence for Colliestoun, Halkertoun and Kinnaries, Guthrie and Gagie, Craigie, Carsbank, ecclesiastical office, and the legal professionals who appear within Scottish property transactions.
Overview
Volume XI contains a compact but unusually informative Guthrie evidence set. The reconciled survey identifies 14 records that directly name Guthrie people and 5 supplementary territorial records retained because they clarify properties central to Guthrie family research.
What the Record Count Means
The 19 expanded records are divided into two evidence classes so that named-person evidence is not confused with useful place-name or property context.
Source basis: RMS Volume XI charter text, Index of Names, and Index of Places.
Principal Guthrie Research Clusters
- Colliestoun: Henry Guthrie, Margaret Livingston, John Guthrie apparent, Sir Henry Guthrie, Jean Lindsay, Barbara Urquhart, Ruyeffs, Guthrieshill, and associated succession evidence.
- Halkertoun & Kinnaries: Gideon Guthrie, his father Henry of Halkertoun, John Guthrie, Elizabeth Lindsay, Isobella Philp, and Gideon’s eldest lawful son Henry.
- Guthrie, Gagie & Hiltoun: Francis Guthrie of Gagie, Betty Guthrie, Mr John Guthrie of that Ilk, Mr Patrick Guthrie, Mr James Guthrie of Arbirlot, and continuing Hiltoun/Langlands evidence.
- Craigie: supplementary property evidence for Hiltoun of Craigie, Wester Craigie, and the barony and manor-place of Craigie.
- Professional & ecclesiastical Guthries: Bishop Henry Guthrie, Thomas Guthrie of Forfar, Mr William Guthrie W.S., and the notaries John Guthrie.
- Carsbank: Alexander Guthrie of Carsbank and his Craigheads and Carsgowane property rights in the barony of Phinheaven.
Source: recurring people, places, relationships, and legal roles documented across the reconciled Volume XI records.
Index Structure and Evidence Rules
Volume XI uses the headings Index of Names and Index of Places. The surname index groups the identified Guthrie people under Guthrie, while the place index separately preserves estates, subdivisions, mills, baronies, and spelling forms.
Source: RMS Volume XI, Index of Names, Index of Places, and reconciled charter text.
Published Volume & Digital Access
Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Volume XI, covering A.D. 1660–1668, was edited by John Horne Stevenson and published at Edinburgh in 1914.
Published source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, A.D. 1660–1668, ed. John Horne Stevenson (Edinburgh, 1914).
Historical Setting
Volume XI opens with the Restoration of the monarchy in 1660 and follows the first eight years of the reign of Charles II after his return to the throne. For Guthrie research, the period combines renewed Crown confirmations with marriage settlements, apprising for debt, succession, ecclesiastical appointment, and the continuing legal reorganization of landed rights.
The Restoration and Charles II
The monarchy was restored in 1660, placing the records in this volume within a markedly different political setting from the preceding Commonwealth and Protectorate years. Scottish landholding, offices, patronage, debts, and inherited rights continued to be expressed through the established legal vocabulary preserved in the RMS.
Historical frame: Restoration reign of Charles II; Volume XI covers A.D. 1660–1668.
Ecclesiastical Change
The Restoration period also saw episcopal church government re-established in Scotland. Volume XI contains a direct Guthrie example: in 1665 royal letters appointed Mr Henry Guthrie, minister at Kilspindie, to the Bishopric of Dunkeld.
Source: RMS XI, No. 785, dated 30 June 1665.
Royal Date and Earlier Evidence
The date printed beside an RMS entry is the date of the Crown charter, confirmation, letters, or other registered act. Many Volume XI records incorporate earlier contracts, resignations, sasines, apprising proceedings, or dispositions that preserve evidence from an earlier date.
Evidence rule: Great Seal date and earlier underlying instrument dates are recorded separately throughout this collection.
Family Relationships Must Be Explicit
Volume XI contains unusually strong pedigree evidence, but the wording still controls the conclusion. Some records expressly identify an eldest lawful son, an only lawful daughter, a spouse, father, grandfather, or heir; other succession clauses merely place people in an order of substitution without stating the exact relationship between them.
Source basis: RMS XI Nos. 221, 269, 565, 719, and related succession records.
Property Rights Are Not Interchangeable
Volume XI repeatedly distinguishes between property, superiority, tenandry, conjunct fee, liferent, occupation, possession, apprising, resignation, and the right of redemption. Those terms describe different legal relationships to land.
Source basis: recurring tenure and possession language throughout RMS Volume XI.
Why Volume XI Matters Genealogically
The volume brings together several kinds of evidence that are especially useful when reconstructing seventeenth-century Guthrie families: marriage contracts, succession clauses, named spouses and parents, territorial designations, professional offices, ecclesiastical appointments, and the movement of property through debt and resignation.
Source: reconciled Volume XI charter evidence and the completed name/place index survey.
Master Finding Aid
The reconciled Volume XI survey contains 19 Guthrie-relevant records: 14 Direct Guthrie records naming an identifiable Guthrie person and 5 Supplementary Context records preserving significant property or boundary evidence. Records are listed chronologically by their RMS date.
| Ch.# | Date | Person / Place | Location / Branch | Research Significance | Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 209 | 21 Feb 1662 |
Henry Guthrie of Collistoun Margaret Livingston, his spouse |
Colliestoun Skræsburgh / Hunthill |
Conjunct-fee grant following a 17 Dec 1661 apprising for debt. Names heirs lawfully begotten between Henry and Margaret, with Henry’s nearest lawful heirs in remainder. Right of redemption reserved. |
RMS XI No. 209 |
| 221 | 3 Mar 1662 |
Henry Guthrie Margaret Sybbald |
Halkertoun / Kair Castletone & Watstone |
Confirms a 25 Jun 1660 marriage provision. Henry is expressly the eldest lawful son of Gideon Guthrie of Halkertoun; Margaret is the only lawful daughter of Mr David Sybbald of Kair. |
RMS XI No. 221 |
| 236 | 28 Apr 1662 |
Craigiehilton / Hilton of Craigie |
Craigie Forfarshire |
Supplementary property evidence for Hilton of Craigie within the wider Craigie landscape later associated with the Guthrie family. No Guthrie person is named. |
RMS XI No. 236 |
| 269 | 1 Jul 1662 |
Gideon Guthrie of Kinnaries Henry Guthrie of Halkertoun · John Guthrie · Elizabeth Lindsay · Isobella Philp |
Halkertoun & Kinnaries Barony of Essie |
Major pedigree record. Gideon is son of the late Henry Guthrie of Halkertoun. John Guthrie is identified as Henry’s only son by first wife Elizabeth Lindsay and as husband of Isobella Philp. |
RMS XI No. 269 |
| 354 | 19 Jan 1663 |
Jonet Guthrie wife of Dowgald McPherson |
Easter Powrie Forfarshire |
Jonet consented with her husband and their son John McPherson to the resignation of lands formerly belonging to Dowgald McPherson of Easter Powrie. Index renders her name as Janet. |
RMS XI No. 354 |
| 444 | 6 Jul 1663 |
Hiltoun of Guthrie & Picktoun |
Guthrie / Hiltoun Forfarshire |
Charter of apprising preserving Hiltoun of Guthrie and Picktoun as named lands within a much larger Forfarshire transaction. No Guthrie person is named. |
RMS XI No. 444 |
| 489 | 3 Aug 1663 |
Hiltoun of Guthrie / lands of Guthrie |
Guthrie · Kinnell Lunan landscape |
Important boundary evidence. Whythallis lies on the east part of Hiltoun of Guthrie; Lunansyde is described between Kinnell on the east and Guthrie on the west. |
RMS XI No. 489 |
| 524 | 7 Sep 1663 |
John Guthrie / Guthray Jonet, his wife |
Kirktoun of Blair Perthshire |
Earlier charters dated 26 Dec 1640 describe John and Jonet as former occupiers of one-third of Kirktoun of Blair. The record does not identify them as proprietors. |
RMS XI No. 524 |
| 565 | 4 Mar 1664 |
Francis Guthrie of Gagie Betty Guthrie · Mr John Guthrie of that Ilk · Mr Patrick Guthrie · Mr James Guthrie |
Guthrie · Gagie Guthrie of that Ilk |
Major succession record for the lands and barony of Guthrie. Francis and Betty receive conjunct fee, followed by a detailed male succession naming Patrick, son of Mr John, and James, minister at Arbirlot. |
RMS XI No. 565 |
| 566 | 9 Mar 1664 |
Thomas Guthrie bailie of Forfar |
Forfar Hiltoun / Longlands |
Thomas Guthrie is a witness to the underlying charter dated 5 Oct 1663. The property also includes a quarter of Hiltoun, otherwise called Longlands, within the barony of Guthrie. |
RMS XI No. 566 |
| 719 | 13 Feb 1665 |
Sir Henry Guthrie of Colliestoun Jean Lindsay · John Guthrie · Henry Guthrie |
Colliestoun Ruyeffs · Park of Conon · Guthrieshill |
Confirms a 1656 matrimonial contract and proves a three-generation sequence: Henry of Colliestoun → John apparent of Colliestoun → Henry younger, expressly John’s eldest lawful son. Jean Lindsay is identified as Sir Henry’s wife. |
RMS XI No. 719 |
| 785 | 30 Jun 1665 |
Mr Henry Guthrie minister at Kilspindie |
Kilspindie Bishopric of Dunkeld |
Royal letters appoint Henry Guthrie to the vacant Bishopric of Dunkeld in liferent and direct that he be put in possession of its associated benefices, patronage and jurisdictional rights. |
RMS XI No. 785 |
| 874 | 2 Feb 1666 |
Hiltoune and Guthrie Langlands · Pykerstoun |
Guthrie / Hiltoun Barony of Turein |
Extensive land grant preserving Guthrie, Hiltoune, Langlands and Pykerstoun as recognized territorial units. Earlier legal steps include apprising and assignment proceedings from 1658–1662. |
RMS XI No. 874 |
| 934 | 17 Jul 1666 |
Hiltoune of Craigie / Wester Craigie barony and manor-place of Craigie |
Craigie Forfarshire |
Major supplementary property record. Patrick Kid’s accumulated Craigie lands are erected into the barony of Craigie, with the manor-place as principal messuage. Preserves the earlier name Wester Craigie for part of Hiltoune of Craigie. |
RMS XI No. 934 |
| 1135 | 31 Jan 1668 |
Mr William Guthrie Writer to the Signet · notary public |
Quarrellhill Forfarshire |
William Guthrie held the instruments associated with the resignation underlying the Crown grant of Quarrellhill and related lands. Professional/legal evidence rather than family relationship evidence. |
RMS XI No. 1135 |
| 1139 | 7 Feb 1668 |
John Guthrie notary public |
Balgay Dundee / Perthshire |
Instruments in John Guthrie’s hands, dated 11 Aug 1665, document the resignation underlying the later Crown grant of Balgay and associated lands. |
RMS XI No. 1139 |
| 1143 | 7 Feb 1668 |
Alexander Guthrie of Carsbank |
Carsbank Craigheads · Carsgowane · Phinheaven |
Grants Easter and Wester Craigheads and the tenandry and superiority of Carsgowane. The charter separately identifies Henry Forest and John Dalgatie as current possessors of Craigheads. |
RMS XI No. 1143 |
| 1180 | 6 May 1668 |
John Guthrie |
Auld Montrose Forfarshire |
John Guthrie held the instruments connected with the 22 Dec 1665 resignation of the lands and barony of Auld Montrose. The Crown grant itself was issued to the Earl of Middletowne. |
RMS XI No. 1180 |
| 1197 | 19 Jun 1668 |
Sir Henry Guthrie of Colliestoun Dame Barbara Urquhart |
Colliestoun Fisherrie lands |
Records a 29 Apr 1664 contract conveying substantial Fisherrie lands to Sir Henry and Barbara in conjunct fee. They were infeft 7 May 1664 and again 3 Oct 1666; the latter sasine was registered 26 Nov 1666. |
RMS XI No. 1197 |
Detailed Records · 1662–January 1663
These opening records establish several of Volume XI’s strongest family relationships, while also illustrating why Crown dates, earlier contracts, possession, superiority, and property rights must be kept distinct.
No. 209 · Henry Guthrie of Collistoun & Margaret Livingston · 21 Feb 1662
Document Focus
The Crown granted the lands and barony of Skræsburgh or Hunthill to Henry Guthrie of Collistoun and Margaret Livingston his spouse, and to the longest liver of them in conjunct fee.
Succession was directed first to the heirs lawfully begotten between Henry and Margaret, and failing them to Henry’s nearest lawful heirs and assignees.
Earlier Legal Proceeding
The lands had formerly belonged to Sir Thomas Rutherfurde of Hunthill. They were apprised from him on 17 December 1661 at the instance of Henry Guthrie and Margaret Livingston in satisfaction of 7425 merks principal and the associated sheriff’s fee.
The decreet was approved by the Lords of Council and Session on 10 January 1662.
Why This Record Matters
This is direct primary evidence that Margaret Livingston was Henry Guthrie’s wife by February 1662. It also records the succession intended for heirs of their marriage.
Legal Caution
This was an apprising for debt, not a simple purchase, and the charter expressly reserved a right of redemption. The succession clause names potential heirs of the marriage but does not itself prove that Henry and Margaret actually had children.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 209, printed pp. 98–99. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 221 · Henry Guthrie, eldest lawful son of Gideon of Halkertoun · 3 Mar 1662
Document Focus
The charter confirms a contract and appointment between Mr David Sybbald of Kair and Henry Guthrie, eldest lawful son of Gideon Guthrie of Halkertoun, together with Henry’s wife Margaret Sybbald.
The underlying contract was dated 25 June 1660.
Marriage Provision
David Sybbald bound himself to infeft Henry and Margaret, and the longest liver of them, in conjunct fee for their aliment, together with their heirs, in the town and lands of Castletone and Watstone.
An instrument of sasine followed the contract.
Why This Record Matters
- Henry is expressly called the eldest lawful son of Gideon Guthrie of Halkertoun.
- Margaret is expressly the only lawful daughter of Mr David Sybbald of Kair.
- Henry and Margaret were already husband and wife by 25 June 1660.
Genealogical Caution
The explicit phrase eldest lawful son makes this stronger than records in which succession order alone might tempt a birth-order assumption. Here the relationship and status are directly stated by the charter.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 221, printed pp. 105–106. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 236 · Craigiehilton / Hilton of Craigie · 28 Apr 1662
Document Focus
In a very extensive Crown grant to Sir George Kinnaird of Rossie, the property description includes the third part of the lands of Craigiehilton.
The charter also refers to the superiority of various lands, including the Overseat of Craigie, within the wider property complex.
Why This Record Matters
The record preserves an early seventeenth-century reference to Craigiehilton / Hilton of Craigie, helping document the territorial structure of the Craigie landscape before its later association with the Guthrie family.
Geographic Caution
This is retained as Supplementary Context, not as a Guthrie-person record. The charter does not name a Guthrie and should not be used by itself to imply Guthrie ownership in 1662.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 236, printed p. 118. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 269 · Gideon Guthrie of Kinnaries & the Halkertoun Family · 1 Jul 1662
Document Focus
The Crown granted to Gideon Guthrie of Kinnaries the town and land of Halkertoun, with its mill, in the barony of Essie and sheriffdom of Forfar, together with associated tenandries, superiority, annualrents and related rights.
Family Evidence
- The late Henry Guthrie of Halkertoun is expressly identified as Gideon’s father.
- John Guthrie is described as heir male retoured to the late Henry.
- John is expressly described as Henry’s only son begotten between him and Elizabeth Lindsay, his first wife.
- Isobella Philp is identified as the wife of John Guthrie.
Why This Record Matters
Read with No. 221, this charter provides unusually strong primary evidence for the Halkertoun and Kinnaries family structure. It also shows that John’s status as Henry’s only son is specifically limited to the marriage between Henry and his first wife Elizabeth Lindsay.
Property and Wording Caution
The charter distinguishes the superiorities and tenandries, which had belonged to James, Earl of Buchan, from teinds and related rights formerly belonging to John Guthrie. Those legal interests should not be collapsed into a single claim of ownership.
The abstract also contains a compressed reference involving a “nephew.” Because the pronoun structure is awkward, the rebuilt family interpretation relies only on relationships that the text states clearly and on the independent evidence of No. 221.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 269, printed p. 137. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 354 · Jonet Guthrie & the McPhersons of Easter Powrie · 19 Jan 1663
Document Focus
The charter grants a large Powrie and Ogilvie property complex to Alexander Wedderburne of Kinganie, elder, provost of Dundee.
The abstract states that the Easter Powrie lands had formerly belonged to Dowgald McPherson, sometime of Easter Powrie, who resigned them with the consent of Jonet Guthrie his spouse and John McPherson his son.
Family and Legal Role
Dowgald is also described as acting as tutor of his son John. Jonet therefore appears not as an incidental name, but as a spouse whose consent formed part of the resignation.
Why This Record Matters
The record directly documents the family unit of Dowgald McPherson, Jonet Guthrie, and their son John, while linking them to Easter Powrie in the earlier title history.
The charter text spells her name Jonet Guthrie; the Index of Names renders it Janet Guthrie.
Date Caution
The RMS date is 19 January 1663. The record also refers to a Great Seal charter dated 15 November 1641 concerning the property and its feudal conditions. That earlier date should not be treated as the proven date of the McPherson/Guthrie resignation unless another source establishes it.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 354, printed pp. 180–181. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
Detailed Records · July 1663–March 1664
These records combine territorial evidence for Hiltoun and Guthrie with direct evidence for earlier Guthrie occupancy, the transfer and succession of the barony of Guthrie, and the civic role of Thomas Guthrie of Forfar.
No. 444 · Hiltoun of Guthrie & Picktoun · 6 Jul 1663
Document Focus
The Crown granted Alexander Seaton an extensive group of lands following an apprising against William Ruthven of Garden. Among the properties are expressly listed the lands of Hiltoun of Guthrie and Picktoun.
Why This Record Matters
The charter preserves both names within the wider Turring/Turein territorial complex and provides useful evidence for the continuing identity of lands associated with Hiltoun and the Guthrie landscape.
Place-Name Caution
The record lists Hiltoun of Guthrie and Picktoun consecutively. It does not state that Picktoun is simply another name for Hiltoun of Guthrie.
No Guthrie person is named, so the record remains Supplementary Context.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 444, printed pp. 224–225. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 489 · Hiltoun of Guthrie & Guthrie Boundary Evidence · 3 Aug 1663
Document Focus
The Crown granted and reunited a large group of lands to James, Earl of Southesk, forming the free barony of Carnegie.
Within the detailed boundaries, the Toft and Croft of Whythallis are described as lying on the east part of Hiltoun of Guthrie.
Geographic Evidence
The Toft and Croft of Lunansyde are described as lying between:
- Kinnell on the east;
- the lands of Guthrie on the west;
- the Water of Lunan on the south; and
- the moor of Montrewmonth on the north.
Why This Record Matters
This is especially useful boundary evidence because it places the lands of Guthrie and Hiltoun of Guthrie within a recognizable Kinnell–Lunan–Montrewmonth landscape.
Evidence Caution
The charter uses Guthrie and Hiltoun of Guthrie as geographic reference points. It does not name a Guthrie person or prove who was then occupying those lands.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 489, printed pp. 245–246. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 524 · John Guthrie / Guthray & Jonet of Kirktoun of Blair · 7 Sep 1663
Document Focus
The 1663 Crown confirmation in favor of Mr Henry Drummond of Balloch incorporates several earlier charters affecting Kirktoun of Blair.
Two of those earlier instruments, both dated 26 December 1640, describe a third part of Kirktoun of Blair as formerly occupied by John Guthrie / Guthray and the late Jonet his wife.
Why This Record Matters
The record documents a married Guthrie household associated with a specific portion of Kirktoun of Blair before the property passed into the later title history.
The alternating spellings Guthray and Guthrie occur within the same RMS record.
Occupation Is Not Ownership
The wording is explicit: John and Jonet were former occupiers. The charter does not identify them as proprietors, portioners, or owners.
By contrast, Patrick Blair is specifically described within the title history as a portioner and as holding the land in fee.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 524, printed pp. 262–263. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 565 · Francis Guthrie of Gagie & the Barony of Guthrie · 4 Mar 1664
Document Focus
The Crown confirms a charter granted by the deceased Mr John Guthrie of that Ilk, expressly described as hereditary proprietor, in favor of Francis Guthrie of Gagie and Betty Guthrie his wife.
Francis and Betty were to hold the lands in conjunct fee, with the survivor retaining the right.
Succession Clause
The succession proceeds through:
- the heirs male of the bodies of Francis and Betty;
- failing them, Francis’s heirs male;
- failing them, Mr Patrick Guthrie, son of Mr John Guthrie of that Ilk, and Patrick’s heirs male;
- failing them, Mr James Guthrie, minister at Arbirlot, and his heirs male;
- failing all of those, the heirs male whomsoever of Mr John Guthrie of that Ilk.
The Barony of Guthrie
The confirmed lands include the Mains of Guthrie, formerly called the Kirktoun of Guthrie, the manor-place, grain mill, Eilack, Teiltoun, Eastertoun called Haltoun, Milntoun of Guthrie, patronage of the Collegiate Church of Guthrie, Kilcreich, Brax, and associated rights.
The charter expressly reserves Hiltoun, both property and superiority, together with Langlands, although they are parts of the barony.
Genealogical Caution
The charter expressly proves that Betty was Francis’s wife and that Patrick was a son of Mr John Guthrie of that Ilk.
It does not expressly state Francis’s relationship to Mr John, Betty’s relationship to Mr John, or call Mr James Guthrie a son of Mr John. The succession sequence is important evidence, but those unstated relationships should not be supplied without separate evidence.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 565, printed pp. 288–289. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 566 · Thomas Guthrie, Bailie of Forfar · 9 Mar 1664
Document Focus
The 1664 Crown confirmation concerns a charter of alienation in favor of John Ogilvie of Pitmowes.
The granted property includes a quarter of Hiltoun, otherwise called Longlands, in the barony of Guthrie.
Thomas Guthrie’s Role
The underlying instrument was executed at Forfar on 5 October 1663. Among its witnesses was Thomas Guthrie, one of the bailies of the burgh of Forfar.
Why This Record Matters
The record documents a named Guthrie holding civic office in Forfar while also preserving property evidence for Hiltoun/Longlands within the barony of Guthrie.
Role Caution
Thomas Guthrie is a witness to the 1663 underlying instrument. He is not the grantee or proprietor in the transaction, and his appearance as witness does not establish a family relationship to the other parties.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 566, printed p. 289. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
Detailed Records · 1665–1666
These records document a major Colliestoun marriage settlement, Henry Guthrie’s appointment to the Bishopric of Dunkeld, continuing territorial evidence for Guthrie and Hiltoun, and the consolidation of the Craigie property complex.
No. 719 · Sir Henry Guthrie of Colliestoun & Jean Lindsay · 13 Feb 1665
Document Focus
The Crown confirms a matrimonial contract dated 1656 involving John Guthrie, apparent of Colliestoun, acting for himself and taking burden for his son Henry Guthrie, younger of Colliestoun.
The agreement was made with the consent of Henry Guthrie of Colliestoun, father of John, and concerned Henry younger’s marriage to Jean Lindsay.
Three Generations Explicitly Documented
The charter establishes the sequence:
Henry Guthrie of Colliestoun → John Guthrie, apparent of Colliestoun → Henry Guthrie, younger of Colliestoun / Sir Henry Guthrie
The younger Henry is expressly called John’s eldest lawful son.
Jean Lindsay
Jean is identified as the lawful daughter of the deceased Laurence Lindsay, who was himself son of the deceased Mr John Lindsay of Dowhill.
By the date of the 1665 Crown confirmation she is styled the late Jean Lindsay and expressly identified as Sir Henry Guthrie’s wife.
Property Provision
The marriage settlement provided for Sir Henry and his heirs by Jean Lindsay in:
- the lands of Colliestoun;
- Ruyeffs;
- the Park of Conon;
- the associated mills and pertinents; and
- the croft called Guthrieshill.
Genealogical Caution
The charter expressly calls the younger Henry John Guthrie’s eldest lawful son. It does not state that John was the eldest son of the older Henry Guthrie.
The term apparent describes John’s status as heir apparent or designated successor; it is not a separate territorial title.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 719, printed pp. 362–363. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 785 · Henry Guthrie Appointed Bishop of Dunkeld · 30 Jun 1665
Document Focus
Royal letters dated at Whitehall narrate that the Bishopric of Dunkeld was vacant following the death of the late bishop and that neither a dean nor chapter had yet been constituted.
The Crown, having been informed of the fitness of Mr Henry Guthrie, minister at Kilspindie, conferred the Bishopric of Dunkeld upon him in liferent.
Rights Included
The grant extends to the bishopric’s:
- benefices and revenues;
- lands, buildings, mills, woods, and fishings;
- parsonage and other teinds;
- patronage of churches and chapels; and
- associated jurisdictional rights.
The Lords of Council and Session were directed to have Henry put in possession.
Why This Record Matters
This is direct primary evidence for a major ecclesiastical promotion during the Restoration period and firmly identifies Henry Guthrie as minister at Kilspindie immediately before his appointment as Bishop of Dunkeld.
Ecclesiastical and Property Caution
The bishopric was granted in liferent. This denotes Henry’s lifetime right to the office and its revenues, not hereditary ownership of the bishopric’s lands.
The charter gives no parentage or other family relationship for Henry Guthrie.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 785, printed p. 396. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 874 · Hiltoune and Guthrie · Langlands · Pykerstoun · 2 Feb 1666
Document Focus
In an extensive grant to John Eleis, writer in Edinburgh, and Catherine Leslie his wife, the lands of the barony of Turein include:
“the lands of Hiltoune and Guthrie, and the Langlands with the pendicle thereof called Pykerstoun” .
Earlier Legal Sequence
- 6 Oct 1658: most of the lands were apprised from William Ruthven of Garden.
- 1 Nov 1658: date of the associated decreet.
- 15 Apr 1659: Alexander Leslie assigned that decreet to John Eleis and Catherine Leslie.
- 25 Apr 1662: other lands were separately apprised at John Eleis’s instance.
- 19 Jun 1662: that later decreet was endorsed.
Why This Record Matters
The record preserves Guthrie, Hiltoune, Langlands, and Pykerstoun as recognized territorial units in a major Forfarshire conveyance.
It is useful for tracing the continuing identity of the lands even when the active legal transaction concerns non-Guthrie proprietors.
Wording Caution
The printed charter reads “Hiltoune and Guthrie”. This should not be silently rewritten as “Hiltoun of Guthrie.”
No Guthrie individual is named, so this remains Supplementary Context.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 874, printed pp. 439–440. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 934 · Hiltoune of Craigie / Wester Craigie · 17 Jul 1666
Document Focus
The charter consolidates Patrick Kid’s various holdings in Craigie and erects them into a barony of Craigie.
Among the properties is a third part of the town and lands of Hiltoune of Craigie, formerly called Wester Craigie.
Barony and Manor-Place
The accumulated lands were erected into the barony of Craigie, with the manor-place of Craigie designated as the principal messuage.
This makes No. 934 especially valuable for reconstructing the legal and territorial development of Craigie before the later Guthrie association.
Why This Record Matters
The record directly preserves the historical identification of Hiltoune of Craigie with the earlier name Wester Craigie and documents the formation of the larger Craigie barony.
Geographic Caution
This is the Craigie property complex near Dundee relevant to later Guthrie research. It should not be confused with unrelated places called Craigie elsewhere in Scotland.
No Guthrie person is named in this charter, so its classification remains Supplementary Context.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 934. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
Detailed Records · 1668
The final Guthrie records in Volume XI combine professional legal evidence, a substantial landed grant to Alexander Guthrie of Carsbank, and a major Colliestoun marriage and property record involving Sir Henry Guthrie and Dame Barbara Urquhart.
No. 1135 · Mr William Guthrie, Writer to the Signet · 31 Jan 1668
Document Focus
The Crown granted Mr Thomas Small, minister at Forfar, and Susanna Ogilvie his wife, with specified succession to their son James Small, the lands of Quarrellhill, Dobies, Coltoune, Wolfaw, and associated rights.
William Guthrie’s Role
The property had been resigned for new infeftment, and the abstract records the relevant instruments in the hands of Mr William Guthrie, Writer to the Signet and notary public.
Why This Record Matters
The entry documents a William Guthrie working in professional Scottish legal conveyancing at a high level by January 1668. His designation as Writer to the Signet is particularly useful for distinguishing him from other contemporary men of that name.
Role and Date Caution
William Guthrie is not the proprietor, grantee, superior, or family beneficiary in the transaction. His role is notarial.
The charter mentions an earlier contract dated 11 March 1617, but that instrument concerns the Lindsay/Ruthven property history and is not a Guthrie document. The abstract supplies no separate date for William Guthrie’s instruments.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 1135, printed p. 570. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 1139 · John Guthrie, Notary Public · 7 Feb 1668
Document Focus
The 1668 Crown grant is in favor of Robert Davidsone, eldest son of the deceased Robert Davidsone senior and one of the bailies of Dundee.
The property included the lands of Balgay, the Mains of Balgay, Hilfeild, Backsyde of Balgay, Butterdaill, fishings, teinds, and associated rights.
John Guthrie’s Role
The lands had been resigned by John Huntar of Balgay with the consent of several relatives and interested parties. The abstract states:
instruments in the hands of John Guthrie, notary public, dated 11 August 1665 .
Why This Record Matters
Unlike records that merely associate a notary with an undated instrument, No. 1139 provides a firmly dated professional appearance for John Guthrie as a notary public in 1665.
Genealogical Caution
John Guthrie’s role is professional. The record does not establish that he owned Balgay or was related to the Hunter or Davidson families.
He should also remain distinct from Mr William Guthrie, Writer to the Signet and notary public, in No. 1135 unless separate evidence establishes a relationship.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 1139, printed pp. 571–572. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 1143 · Alexander Guthrie of Carsbank · 7 Feb 1668
Document Focus
The Crown grants to Alexander Guthrie of Carsbank, his heirs and assignees, the Easter and Wester Craigheads, together with their multures and duties.
He also receives the tenandry and superiority of Carsgowane, described as an equal half of the lands of Easter Maristains.
Geographic Detail
Craigheads are described as lying between Shipherdseat on the east and Carse, commonly called Carsefuird and Parkzeat, on the west.
Alexander also received the customary privilege of pasturage and fuel rights on the hill of Phinheaven.
Possession and Legal Right
The charter states that Easter and Wester Craigheads were then possessed by Henry Forest and John Dalgatie.
This is an important distinction: Alexander Guthrie received the legal estate and associated rights while the charter separately identifies the men physically possessing the lands.
Genealogical and Place-Name Caution
The charter supplies no parentage, spouse, or children for Alexander. Carsbank is his territorial designation, while this particular grant concerns Craigheads and Carsgowane.
Carsbank must not be confused with the unrelated Carsburne appearing elsewhere in Volume XI.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 1143, printed p. 573. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 1180 · John Guthrie & the Auld Montrose Instruments · 6 May 1668
Document Focus
The Crown grants to John, Earl of Middletowne, Lord Clermont and Fettercarne, the lands and barony of Auld Montrose, including the tower, fortalice, salmon fishing of Southesk, patronages, and associated lands and rights.
Earlier Conveyancing Sequence
- 16 Aug 1665: the lands were granted to John Grahame of Fintrie.
- 22 Dec 1665: the lands were resigned under that earlier grant and procuratory.
- The abstract then records instruments in the hands of John Guthrie.
- In 1666 the lands were sold or disponed to the Earl of Middletowne.
- A later resignation was documented by instruments in the hands of Mr William Thomsone, notary public, dated 26 Nov 1667.
Why This Record Matters
John Guthrie appears as a professional participant in a substantial landed conveyance. The record places him within the legal machinery surrounding the transfer of the barony of Auld Montrose.
Date and Duplicate Caution
The safest wording is that John Guthrie held the instruments connected with the resignation of 22 December 1665. The abstract does not separately say that the instruments themselves were dated that day.
No. 1181 is explicitly a duplicate of No. 1180 and is therefore not counted as a second Guthrie record.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 1180, printed p. 594. No. 1181 is identified in the volume as a duplicate. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
No. 1197 · Sir Henry Guthrie of Colliestoun & Dame Barbara Urquhart · 19 Jun 1668
Document Focus
The 1668 Crown grant itself is in favor of Mr William Moire, advocate, and concerns the former lands and barony of Fisherrie.
Its title history records an earlier alienation by Sir Alexander Urquhart of Dunglas to Sir Henry Guthrie of Colliestoun and Dame Barbara Urquhart, his wife.
Marriage and Succession
Sir Henry and Barbara were granted the relevant property, and the survivor of them, in conjunct fee, followed by their heirs male and, failing those, Sir Henry’s nearest heirs and assignees.
The charter therefore provides direct evidence that Barbara Urquhart was Sir Henry Guthrie’s wife by 29 April 1664.
Fisherrie Lands
The alienation included substantial property such as:
- the Mains of Fisherrie;
- Auchlin;
- Bisset-Croft;
- Craigwell;
- Tillibo;
- Newseate;
- Over and Nether Brayes;
- Playhill;
- Feichfauld; and
- Easter and Wester Blackhouse.
Embedded Chronology
- 29 Apr 1664: contract involving Sir Alexander Urquhart, Sir Henry Guthrie, and Barbara Urquhart.
- 7 May 1664: Sir Henry and Barbara were infeft in the lands.
- 3 Oct 1666: a further infeftment occurred.
- 26 Nov 1666: the later sasine was registered in the General Register of Sasines at Edinburgh.
- 19 Jun 1668: the Crown charter records the earlier alienation and its legal consequences.
Legal and Genealogical Caution
The alienation had taken place without the required Crown consent, contributing to the lands falling to the Crown by recognition. That later legal consequence does not erase the charter’s explicit statement that Sir Henry and Barbara had actually been infeft.
The record does not state Barbara Urquhart’s relationship to Sir Alexander Urquhart. She should not be called his daughter on the authority of this charter alone.
Combined with No. 719, which calls Jean Lindsay the late wife of Sir Henry in the earlier marriage context, No. 1197 demonstrates that Sir Henry had remarried Barbara Urquhart by April 1664.
Source: Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, Vol. XI, No. 1197, printed pp. 601–602. View Volume XI at HathiTrust.
People & Families
Volume XI is especially valuable because several entries preserve explicit family relationships rather than merely repeating a surname. The groups below bring those relationships together while keeping direct charter statements separate from later genealogical inference.
The Guthries of Colliestoun
Volume XI preserves several stages in the Colliestoun family’s seventeenth-century property and marriage history.
- No. 209: Henry Guthrie of Collistoun and Margaret Livingston are husband and wife and receive Hunthill lands in conjunct fee following apprising for debt.
- No. 719: John Guthrie is expressly the son of Henry Guthrie of Colliestoun, while the younger Henry is expressly John’s eldest lawful son.
- Jean Lindsay is identified as Sir Henry’s wife in the 1656 matrimonial settlement and is described as deceased by the 1665 confirmation.
- No. 1197: Dame Barbara Urquhart is Sir Henry’s wife by the contract of 29 April 1664.
Halkertoun & Kinnaries
Nos. 221 and 269 provide some of the strongest explicit pedigree evidence in the volume.
The same records also identify another son of the elder Henry: John Guthrie.
- Gideon is expressly called a son of the late Henry Guthrie of Halkertoun.
- John Guthrie is expressly the elder Henry’s only son by Elizabeth Lindsay, his first wife.
- John’s wife in 1662 is Isobella Philp.
- Gideon’s son Henry is expressly his eldest lawful son.
- Henry younger’s wife is Margaret Sybbald, only lawful daughter of Mr David Sybbald of Kair.
Guthrie of that Ilk & the Gagie Succession
No. 565 preserves an important succession arrangement concerning the historic lands and barony of Guthrie.
- Francis Guthrie of Gagie and Betty Guthrie are husband and wife.
- The earlier grantor is the deceased Mr John Guthrie of that Ilk, described as hereditary proprietor.
- Mr Patrick Guthrie is explicitly identified as a son of Mr John Guthrie of that Ilk.
- Mr James Guthrie is identified as minister at Arbirlot.
Clerical Guthries
Volume XI contains two important clerical references, but they should not be treated as evidence that the men belonged to the same immediate family.
- Mr James Guthrie appears in No. 565 as minister at Arbirlot and as one of the men named in the succession to the Guthrie barony.
- Mr Henry Guthrie appears in No. 785 as minister at Kilspindie and is appointed Bishop of Dunkeld in 1665.
Professional & Civic Guthries
The later entries preserve several Guthries participating in civic government and legal conveyancing.
- Thomas Guthrie — one of the bailies of the burgh of Forfar and a witness to the underlying 1663 charter in No. 566.
- Mr William Guthrie — Writer to the Signet and notary public in No. 1135.
- John Guthrie — notary public whose instruments in No. 1139 are explicitly dated 11 August 1665.
- Another John Guthrie appears as holder of instruments connected with the Auld Montrose resignation in No. 1180.
Other Named Guthries
Several records preserve individuals who cannot yet be securely placed within the larger landed branches represented elsewhere in the volume.
- Jonet Guthrie — wife of Dowgald McPherson, sometime of Easter Powrie, and mother of John McPherson.
- John Guthrie / Guthray and his wife Jonet — former occupiers of one-third of Kirktoun of Blair.
- Alexander Guthrie of Carsbank — grantee of Easter and Wester Craigheads and the tenandry and superiority of Carsgowane.
Source basis: the 14 Direct Guthrie records in RMS Volume XI. Family relationships above are limited to those explicitly stated in the charter text or directly established by reading paired records together.
Research Pathways
Volume XI does more than identify individual Guthries. Its strongest records point toward broader research questions involving succession, marriage, territorial history, professional networks, and the changing legal control of long-associated Guthrie properties.
Colliestoun: Marriage, Succession & Property
Three major records allow the Colliestoun family to be followed through successive generations and marriages.
- No. 209 documents Henry Guthrie of Collistoun and Margaret Livingston.
- No. 719 establishes the three-generation sequence from Henry to John apparent to Sir Henry.
- No. 1197 documents Sir Henry’s later wife, Dame Barbara Urquhart.
Halkertoun & Kinnaries: Reconstructing the Family
Nos. 221 and 269 establish more relationships than most Great Seal records and provide a firm framework for reconstructing this family.
- Identify the mother of Gideon Guthrie of Kinnaries.
- Determine whether the awkward “nephew” wording in No. 269 can be clarified from the original instrument or related sasines.
- Trace John Guthrie and Isobella Philp after 1662.
- Follow Henry Guthrie and Margaret Sybbald through the Kair, Castletone, and Watstone records.
Guthrie of that Ilk, Gagie & Hiltoun
No. 565 is one of the most important late records for the old barony of Guthrie because it combines a transfer to Francis Guthrie of Gagie with a detailed male succession.
- Determine the precise relationship of Francis Guthrie of Gagie to Mr John Guthrie of that Ilk.
- Determine the place of Betty Guthrie within the wider family.
- Investigate why Hiltoun and Langlands were expressly reserved from the grant.
- Compare Nos. 444, 489, 565, 566, and 874 for the changing legal status of Hiltoun, Langlands, Picktoun, and Pykerstoun.
Craigie & Hiltoun of Craigie
The supplementary records help separate the several Craigie place-names and clarify the property history before the later Guthrie association.
- No. 236 preserves a reference to a third part of Craigiehilton.
- No. 934 identifies Hiltoune of Craigie as formerly Wester Craigie.
- No. 934 also records the erection of the barony of Craigie with the manor-place as principal messuage.
Notaries, Writers & Civic Office
Volume XI contains several Guthries acting in professional rather than landed roles.
- Thomas Guthrie — bailie of Forfar and witness.
- Mr William Guthrie — Writer to the Signet and notary public.
- John Guthrie — notary public in No. 1139.
- John Guthrie — holder of instruments in No. 1180.
Henry Guthrie, Bishop of Dunkeld
No. 785 provides a firm dated transition from minister at Kilspindie to Bishop of Dunkeld.
Particularly useful sources may include presbytery material, episcopal records, testaments, sasines, university records, and surviving family papers.
Alexander Guthrie of Carsbank
No. 1143 establishes Alexander Guthrie’s territorial designation of Carsbank and documents his acquisition of Craigheads and superiority rights in Carsgowane.
- Identify Alexander’s parentage and immediate family.
- Trace the Carsbank estate independently of the lands conveyed here.
- Follow the earlier title of Craigheads through Lord Spynie and the other consenting parties.
Women as Essential Evidence
Volume XI repeatedly demonstrates that wives and daughters are not incidental names. They can determine succession, consent, property rights, and the chronology of family reconstruction.
- Margaret Livingston — conjunct fee and apprising.
- Margaret Sybbald — marriage provision and only lawful daughter.
- Elizabeth Lindsay — first wife of Henry Guthrie of Halkertoun.
- Isobella Philp — wife of John Guthrie.
- Jonet Guthrie — consenting spouse in the Easter Powrie resignation.
- Betty Guthrie — spouse and conjunct-fee beneficiary.
- Jean Lindsay and Barbara Urquhart — successive wives of Sir Henry Guthrie.
Tested Place-Index Leads That Should Not Be Reintroduced
The Volume XI place sweep produced several plausible-looking entries that were checked against the charter text and excluded. Preserving these negative findings helps prevent the same false matches from being added back later.
Research pathways are derived from the reconciled Direct and Supplementary records in RMS Volume XI. Suggested follow-up questions distinguish the evidence actually contained in the volume from issues requiring additional primary sources.
Terms, Sources & Access
The Great Seal abstracts compress complex Scottish legal transactions into a small amount of text. Understanding the terminology is essential: a proprietor, occupier, superior, liferenter, heir, witness, and notary may all appear in the same title history while holding very different legal relationships to the property.
Property & Tenure
Property settled jointly upon two people, commonly husband and wife, frequently with provision for the survivor and specified heirs. It is especially important in marriage settlements.
A right enjoyed for the lifetime of the holder. No. 785 grants the Bishopric of Dunkeld to Henry Guthrie in liferent; this is not hereditary ownership.
The feudal superior’s legal rights over lands held by another. Superiority does not necessarily mean physical occupation or direct possession of the land.
Rights associated with lands held by tenants under a superior. A grant of tenandry may accompany superiority without establishing that the grantee personally occupied the property.
Heritable possession or ownership, distinguished from a merely temporary or lifetime interest.
Conveyancing & Debt
A legal process by which a creditor could obtain rights in a debtor’s lands in satisfaction of debt. No. 209 is a particularly useful example because the right of redemption was reserved.
The formal surrender of lands to a superior so that they could be granted or regranted according to a new destination.
Literally a “we give anew” clause. A Crown charter with novodamus could regrant lands and restate, consolidate, or regularize the title.
The legal act by which possession of heritable property was formally given. An RMS charter may narrate a prior sasine even though the Great Seal record itself was issued later.
A feudal consequence by which lands could fall to the superior or Crown following an unauthorized alienation or other breach of the conditions of tenure. This issue appears in No. 1197.
Succession & Family Language
An heir qualifying under a male-line or male-heir destination. The phrase should not automatically be translated as “eldest son.”
An heir who had been formally found or recognized through the Scottish retour process.
In a designation such as John Guthrie, apparent of Colliestoun, the term indicates an apparent or designated successor. It is not another estate name.
A specific statement of both legitimacy and birth order. Volume XI expressly applies this wording to Henry Guthrie, son of Gideon of Halkertoun, and to the younger Henry Guthrie, son of John of Colliestoun.
This wording must be read narrowly. No. 269 describes John Guthrie as the only son of Henry Guthrie by Elizabeth Lindsay, his first wife; it does not say that John was Henry’s only son by all marriages.
Professional & Documentary Roles
A Scottish legal professional associated with preparation and authentication of formal legal writings. Mr William Guthrie is identified as a Writer to the Signet in No. 1135.
A legally recognized official who authenticated instruments and recorded formal legal acts. A notary’s appearance does not imply ownership of the property involved.
A formal written record of a legal act. References such as “instruments in the hands of John Guthrie” identify documentary or notarial involvement, not necessarily a beneficial interest.
A person present to attest execution of an instrument. Witnessing does not by itself prove kinship with the parties or ownership of the lands.
A civic or judicial officer. Thomas Guthrie appears in No. 566 as one of the bailies of the burgh of Forfar.
Places, Baronies & Descriptions
The principal house or symbolic seat designated for a barony. No. 934 names the manor-place of Craigie as the principal messuage of the newly erected barony of Craigie.
A legally constituted territorial unit that could contain numerous towns, lands, mills, rights, and subdivisions. Inclusion within a barony does not mean all component lands were occupied directly by the baron.
A territorial designation such as Alexander Guthrie of Carsbank identifies the person by an estate or territorial association. It does not mean that every charter naming that individual is a conveyance of the designated estate.
A neighboring property may be named only to define another parcel. No. 489 uses the lands of Guthrie as a western boundary; that is valuable geographic evidence but not a Guthrie-person record.
How to Read the Dates
The date heading an RMS entry normally belongs to the Crown charter, confirmation, letters, or other Great Seal act. It may not be the date on which the underlying family or property event occurred.
Marriage contract — 25 June 1660
Guthrie occupancy appears in instruments dated 26 December 1640
Guthrie–Urquhart contract — 29 April 1664
Infeftments — 7 May 1664 and 3 October 1666
Index of Names
Volume XI’s personal index is headed Index of Names. It is a valuable finding aid for identifying people, territorial designations, spouses, and cross-references.
The index may normalize a spelling that differs from the charter. For example, No. 354 gives Jonet Guthrie in the charter text while the index renders her as Janet Guthrie.
Index of Places
The territorial index is headed Index of Places. It separately records lands, baronies, parishes, mills, subdivisions, and spelling forms.
The place sweep was essential for finding records in which no Guthrie person was named but where Guthrie-associated lands remained historically significant.
Source Hierarchy Used for This Collection
Evidence has been interpreted in the following order:
- 1. Charter text — the controlling evidence for names, roles, relationships, dates, and legal rights.
- 2. Index of Names — used to locate people and identify editorial cross-references.
- 3. Index of Places — used to locate associated territorial evidence and spelling variants.
- 4. Cross-record comparison — used when two independently dated records clarify chronology or family structure.
- 5. Secondary interpretation — kept separate from what the RMS text itself proves.
Published Source & Digital Access
John Horne Stevenson, ed.
Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum:
The Register of the Great Seal of Scotland
Volume XI, A.D. 1660–1668
Edinburgh: H.M. General Register House, 1914.
Definitions above are written for interpreting the legal and genealogical evidence encountered in RMS Volume XI. They are explanatory aids and do not replace the exact wording of an individual charter.
