Genealogy Gymnastics
The summer Olympics are happening in Paris right now. Wishing all of the competitors the best. May they all achieve their peak performances at the games. I’ll be cheering for Team USA from the spectacular viewpoint of my living room couch. We also have a few flips, twists, and turns going on at FamilyTreeDNA right now as they partner up with MyHeritage to give you a more user-friendly tree presentation. This should not have a major impact on the Guthrie DNA Project moving forward as long as we’re still able to view the trees presented to us by our genetic matches. Those of you with project-related DNA tests housed at FTDNA should have received direct notification from them about this change. The FTDNA blog tells you more in its article ‘Same Family, New Tree: MyHeritage Brings Its Family Tree Tools to FamilyTreeDNA.’

HURRICANE SEASON
Houston, Texas is home to FamilyTreeDNA’s headquarters. The city had been impacted by floods and power outages caused by Hurricane Beryl. Our genetic samples remain safely secured. The lab seems to be catching up. We’re starting to see some DNA test results coming through again. If you mailed a new test kit to FTDNA and the notice posted on your profile page does not indicate they received it, call or message them to inquire about the status of your kit.

NEW GUTHRIE DNA PROJECT PARTICIPANTS

Descendant of David Guthrie (1789 IRE – 1873 IRE) and Isabella Wood.
This line Laois, Ireland to New Zealand. Autosomal DNA Test.

Descendant of Nancy Guthry (1808 VA – 1897 VA) and Larkin Holdaway.
This line Virginia, USA to Tennessee, USA. Autosomal DNA Test.

Descendant of Charles Guthrie (1810 SCT – 1882CT) and Agnes (MNU).
This line Scotland to Connecticut, USA. Y-DNA and Autosomal DNA Test. See GFG17.

Descendant of Adam Guthrie (1804 PA – 1872 PA) and Phebe Mercer Jones.
This line Pennsylvania, USA. Autosomal DNA Test. Pending Y-DNA Test.
Anticipated match GFG2A – Branch B

Other-Surname match to descendant of James Guthrie (1828 IRE – 18??) and Anne Kilpatrick of County Donegal, Ireland. That Guthrie remains in an ungrouped Y-DNA status.

Descendant of Calvin Parsons Guthrie (1829 PA – 1907 OK) and Sarah Ann Adair
This line Pennsylvania, USA to California, USA via migration through other states.
Anticipate match GFG2A – Branch F
BIG-Y UPDATES
Check the Group Time Tree Chart at the FTDNA Guthrie DNA Project Site for Updates
GFG2C – Descendants of Robert Guthrie (1752PA – 1815OH) and Elizabeth Jane Caldwell (PA/OH, USA):
Robert Guthrie was first theorized by ‘American Guthrie and Allied Families’ author, Lawrence R Guthrie, to be a descendant of GFG2A – Branch I. The Y-DNA of two direct line Guthrie men who share Robert Guthrie as their most recent common paternal line ancestor is unique to the project, and does not match the GFG2A profile. One of the two Guthrie men representing GFG2C with Y-DNA tests upgraded to a Big-Y test. Fortunately, a genetic match at FTDNA also has a Big-Y test for comparison. The most recent common direct paternal line ancestor between them was show to be born about 1361, so obviously not Robert Guthrie’s father, but a more distant grandfather of some degree. Importantly, this man is from the Netherlands, and his ancestors have been there for an extended period, which probably indicates that Robert Guthrie’s paternal origins are Dutch.
The potential for Dutch ancestry in GFG2C is interesting and serves as an vital clue for determining the Guthrie home in which Robert Guthrie grew up. Keep in mind that New York was once a Dutch settlement. They traded along the Houston River as early as 1611 and established Fort Amsterdam in 1625. There were pockets of Dutch settlers in the New England area. Whichever Guthrie family Robert belonged to probably had regional, religious, or extended family ties to the Dutch.
Reading: The Rise and Fall of New Netherland
GFG7 – Final Comparative Results Still Pending:
Descendant of GFG7-Branch D: Adam Guthrie c1740IRE-1827KY & Mary Anderson (962550)
Descendant of GFG7-Branch E Guthrie-Burrows Family of SCT/AUS (B708932)
Results so far…
We finally have some Big-Y results for our Guthrie-Burrows branch for GFG7.
As anticipated, results match those of our Branch-D participant.
Next comes the addition of the new results to the Group Time Tree, which will show any update to the estimation for when their Most Recent Common ancestor was born.
They have been assigned Haplogroup R-FTF24857.
The Guthrie-Burrows family descends from an Ayrshire Guthrie line who’s earliest ancestors are John Guthrie (d1769) and Jean Dunlop..
The Branch D line has been traced back to Ireland in the 1740s, so presumably the MRCA would be in Scotland at an earlier date. It will be interesting to see the prediction as to how much earlier their MRCA lived.
Still Awaiting Big-Y Results:
Kit 467718 – Descendant of Adam Guthrie and Mercy Irwin (GFG2A – Branch B)
Kit 1017291) – Descendant of Carter Guthrie and Barbara Beal (GFG8)
GROUP NEWS

GFG5 – Branch D: Adding a New Generation!
Descendants of James C Guthrie and Nancy Corn may already know this information. I stumbled across it when updating GFG5 info for Guthrie Genealogy Family Groups. James’ father is a John Guthrie who was “a native of Scotland and a pioneer of Georgia” according to a biographical sketch of James’ son-in-law, William M Blankenship. The sketch includes Guthrie family data, too. John served during the Revolutionary War and received a severe wound through the body, but recovered to resume the work of a planter in Georgia. It sounds as if this branch of GFG5 may have come to America via a separate immigration from the branches in Virgina.

GFG17 – Descendants of David Guthrie (c1650 – p1732) and Janet Stewart (Brechin, Scotland)
This one is exciting! It provides us with Y-DNA confirmation for 3 lines of descendant from David Guthrie and Janet Stewart via 3 different sons.
1) David Guthrie (in Kincraig) is the theorized father of John Guthrie (farmer in Knowhead) and Helen Wyllie. This line includes descendant Rev. Thomas Guthrie (1803SCT-1873ENG).
2) Alexander Guthrie (in Balfour in Menmuir) and Anne Ker
3) Robert Guthrie (in Bogside, Craigtown, and Glenmoy) and Helen Eddieson

GUTHRIE CONNECTIONS to the OLYMPICS
Olympics Biographies:
Olympic Games – PARIS – 1924
George Phineas Guthrie – United States Athletics – Hurdler
Guthrie Genealogy: George Phineas Guthrie III (1904OH – 1972OH)
Here’s his passport application showing that he was a “contestant on Olympic Team”.

OHIO State University Newspaper Archives:
Guthrie Wins Sixth in 110 Meter Event at Olympic Games
Australia Sports Hall of Fame Biographies
Olympic Games – MELBOURNE – 1956
Frank Guthrie – Australia – Swimming Coach

Ann, I don’t know how to thank you for your excellent work on the Guthrie “clan.” I’m on several DNA “family” sites and this has to be the best one out there. These newsy emails to keep us up to date simply don’t exist for many projects.
Again, Thank You!
Pat Dunford (Richard Guthrie, GFG2A-B
I’m going to buy a DNA test for my nephew. We are descendants of Jackson Guthrie (d. About 1902) of Stokes county NC. Do you need additional DNA testing on this line? If so, what sort of test should I order for him? I’ll be sharing the results with you.
The closest match I can find is Jackson Guthrie (1818 Halifax VA – 1904 Forsyth NC) and Mary Frances Shelton. This Jackson Guthrie was a son of Thomas Guthrie and Frances Ann Gravitt. Not to be confused with the Jackson Guthrie (1817 Halifax VA – 1891 Halifax VA) who m1. Paulina Stowe and m2. Delphia Blackstock, a son of John Guthrey Jr and Edness Adams of GFG4.
We do not currently have a male Guthrie with a Y-DNA test directly representing either of those Jackson Guthrie lines. If your nephew is a male Guthrie, the recommended test would be a YDNA-37 or 111 marker test purchased at Family Tree DNA. The Y37 marker should be enough to achieve a match, the Y111 provides more advanced matching and comparisons. The Big-Y test is recommended only if a match to a group has already been verified and there will be advantages to explore testing at that level. If your nephew is not a Guthrie and rather descends from a female Guthrie, an AncestryDNA test is recommended as it will provide the most matches and can also be transferred to other locations so you can review results in other databases.
Jackson Guthrie (1818 Halifax VA – 1904 Forsyth NC) and Mary Frances Shelton are our ancestors. In fact I have a photo of them. We are descended from their daughter, “Miss Patty” Guthrie (I think her name was actually mary francis Guthrie, cant remember and notes not in front of me!). So ancestry DNA, correct?
AncesteyDNA, yes